Re: [QUAD-L] scientific proof junk science

2004-10-14 Thread Boyd Jenkins
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] scientific proof junk science Ya cant win em all! Boyd On 10/13/04 1:57 PM, william Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I have been voting in presidential elections for the past 40 years. This will be the very first time I have ever voted for a Democratic candidate for

Re: [QUAD-L] RE: Bush plays the game of being.....

2004-10-14 Thread Stacy Harim
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] RE:  Bush plays the game of being. That was a snip off of another email. LOL You know better. I don't have any children. Had to do the school thing first. 30 and still no kids. My belief for me is that I personally want to be married before kids and we all know that

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2004-10-14 Thread DAANOO
Please contact your Governors to support this.Dana(C4-5, 30 years post)The New Mexico folks are to be congratulatedNM Governor Bill Richardson has signed and endorsed the National Governor'sAssociation resolution!Background: at the NGA meeting in Seattle this past summer ADAPT

[QUAD-L] The President

2004-10-14 Thread wheelchair
I hope that Stuntman invites you to his next cookout, as he is both interesting, has a sense of humor and poses great arguments. I'd personally like to see him go back to Purdue or IU as an assistant professor, but that will remain his choice. I was surprise to read from ADAPT's website that

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-14 Thread QuadPirate
Maybefewer problems at this timeStunman but less promise. Forget about Kerry this subject has been an issue since Bushroad blocked it. This isn't a Kerry issue for me it's about research and nothing less. There's nothing logical about notusingsomething for research that's heading for the

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, False Logic .... Reaction to: Commun...

2004-10-14 Thread QuadPirate
I read this news in August and definitely think this research is vital and just as vital as Embryonic. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Jim Lubin Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 6:56:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, False

[QUAD-L] Poll Suggests Disabled Voters Could Swing the Election

2004-10-14 Thread Tod E. Santee
Hi All! Political power we have as PWDs. But here's a positive article we can ALL take to heart. First... Hello to any new folks!! Hope you're enjoying your participation in the Quad List! It's a comfy place. I realize it's been a long time since I posted but wanted you all to know I'm still

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-14 Thread QuadPirate
Bush's side of what? Mark ---Original Message--- From: Stacy Harim Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:40:33 PM To: QuadPirate; Stuntman; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, False Logic Reaction to: Communist

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-14 Thread Stuntman
You do understand that there is NO PROMISE other than the empty one made by Kerry regarding embryonic stem cells. There is hope, and we can all use hope. But it is unethical to promote false hopes by claiming that a cure is within our grasp and that somehow we are being denied a cure by a

[QUAD-L] thoughts on election

2004-10-14 Thread Dylan
Go Kerry.. my main issues are health care(primarily attendant care funding) and education for my daughter.. and I believe that both of those issues will have a higher priority with a democratic administration. And I wouldn't be apposed to voting republican if I believed that those priorities

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-14 Thread QuadPirate
Ididn't say there was a promise with Embryonic Stem CellsI said adult stem cells had less promise. And you're right why divert Federal money into research that has fewer lines to work with which means is more limited? Is there any way to talk about Stem cells without theKerry BS. I'm not

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2004-10-14 Thread STILSOULVIVEN
Can anyone tell me about the lawsuit that Advantage Home Health Care is filing toward the medicaid waiver program? Apparently half of the home care agencies are not going to accept the medicaid waiver anymore. inline: Desk Of .jpg

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-14 Thread QuadPirate
Well Jim I thought my comment about sperm beinga human lifewas an obvious joke but I guess not. There was clearlya punch line. But you can't argue that sperm hasthe samechance of being human life because it still needs help to produce a human just like an embryobecause until you implant it

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2004-10-14 Thread QuadPirate
What State are you in? Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:44:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [QUAD-L] (no subject) Can anyone tell me about the lawsuit that Advantage Home Health Care is filing toward the medicaid waiver

RE: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-14 Thread Jim Lubin
At 09:51 AM 10/14/2004, Mark Felling wrote: Except, you left out the fact that there are very more limited sources of adult stem cells, especially to use in such areas as rebuilding the spinal cord, since the adult body has shut down those types of cells. The whole point of the Puripotent stem

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-14 Thread Jim Lubin
At 12:51 PM 10/14/2004, QuadPirate wrote: Well Jim I thought my comment about sperm being a human life was an obvious joke but I guess not. There was clearly a punch line. sigh I was just pointing out that a sperm is not a human life so you didn't have to be concerned about ending up in

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-14 Thread QuadPirate
And I was just pointing out I knew that when I wrote it. I'm glad we're together on the whole process of ivf and the whole picture but I didn't say it should be ended I was asking why shouldn't they be able to research something that they planned on destroying in the first place. Regardless

[QUAD-L] Advantage Home Health Care

2004-10-14 Thread wheelchair
A HREF=http://www.in.gov/isdh/regsvcs/acc/hharep/ha007116.htm;Indiana State Department of Health/A (Ref) www.in.gov/isdh/regsvcs/acc/hharep/ha007116.htm I don't know if you are referring to Advantage Home Health Care of Muncie,IN or another location in the country. Is it a local thing or

[QUAD-L] Re: Infection and swelling

2004-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks to all of you for writing with your suggestions. I had no idea this was such a problem. But I guess I'm not surprised, if there is an infection to be gotten as a quad we will get it. I haven't had to go to the hospital yet because the tissue infection is getting better with oral ABX.

[QUAD-L] Yeast and antibiotics

2004-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dave Headman, and anyone else who has fungus, I bought this stuff called Bifido-factor from the company Natren. It has helped me so much with all the side effects of overuse of antibiotics. It just replaces the good critters in your gut etc. They have a web site www.natren.com but thet are a

[QUAD-L] RE: ADVANTAGE

2004-10-14 Thread STILSOULVIVEN
I was notified from the local Advantage office here in IN, that Advantage was bringing forth a lawsuit to the waiver program, and that Advantage and 1/2 of all the other Home Health Agencies were going to stop using the waiver as a payment option. I was told, by a reliable source, to start looking