RE: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS
OK guys that's enough-I'm downright jealous. Somehow it doesn't seem fair
that you guys have all the fun. Course I never tried a male PCA, nor do I
think I want to. J
Happy new year to everyone
Joan and very sunny Reno
From: hellodav...@aol.com [mailto:hellodav...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 7:33 PM
To: d...@unh.edu; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS
gives a whole new meaning to 'personal care' huh? also 'physical therapy'
In a message dated 1/1/2010 8:25:26 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
d...@unh.edu writes:
Back in the day, one of my friends who was in rehab fooled around
with the nurses. Alas, I never had such luck in either rehab or
college. However, I have had some very fun PCA's. :-)
Dan
At 09:23 PM 1/1/2010, Tod E. Santee said something that elicited my
response:
Yep... my first stint away at college for a couple summer classes
introduced me to a personal care aide who was curious like that
about every male quad on campus! I just happened to be at the main
campus the state's VR system chose to suggest to all/most of its
clients. So she certainly had many of her pickins' grinnin', so to
speak. Funny thing was, I found out she had a boyfriend... big,
hulkin' muscular AB guy!!
--Tod
hellodav...@aol.com wrote:
Now that you mention this - at 19 I had a 28 yr old female P.T. who was
curious just what all was broken along with my neck. An
overnighter to her
place revealed ALL was not lost - worn out, she took me back to the
rehab
hosp - smiling.
AZDAVE
In a message dated 1/1/2010 3:45:14 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
sant...@cox.net writes:
Hmmm... It was over 20 years ago but there was that one quad-hopping
chick in college. Maybe I shouldn't have said, No Thanks. LOL!
You GUYS must know I'm talking about, RIGHT?
But how about you ladies? Are there quad-hoppin' men out there, too,
just looking for a young chick in a chair?
Happy New Year O'-10!
--Tod
shellbell5...@aim.com wrote:
Hi Guys~
This site has helped me in s many ways.??Your your input is
valued~more than you could ever know.
I am only 3 years post injury and the longer I read the
more questions I
have.? At this point the following is most important:
?
For those of you with more living experience as quads, what
would be the
one thing you would do different
or maybe wish?you would have done/or not done over the years??
?
Fortunately I quit smoking before my accident and I no longer drink
alcohol~?
?
THANK YOU AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL
MANY BLESSINGS!
?
Shelly
3 years post
C6-C7 incomplete
???
RE: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS, PCAs Healthy Relations
Hi Joan...
Don't be too jealous... from what I understand it never lasts and it rarely
ends well!!
But then again, there was one person that helped me out with some emergency
PCA Care when I first arrived in Tucson after my parents pulled out to start
driving back east. All because my previously arranged and hired aide got
arrested and jailed on a DUI the night before I arrived!!! The person that
volunteered to help me had never done personal care before that --and hasn't
worked for anyone else since. I was invited to the family's Thanksgiving
Dinner. AND NOW, we've been married since just over a year since that time 20
years ago! (I still get to Thanksgiving, I'm in the family Christmas gift
exchange, and she still helps me out with PCA work in a pinch. --for a price!!!
{lol})
So, to keep with the Subject Line... Recommendation: Choose your help wisely,
use your SOLID gut instinct, and then marry the best! (LOL... Ok... I'll admit
that track might not work for everyone. But it DOES make for a nice,
beginning-of-the-year, holiday story, eh?)
Happy Oh-10, my Friends!
--Tod
Joan Anglin poaj...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
OK guys that's enough-I'm downright jealous. Somehow it doesn't seem fair
that you guys have all the fun. Course I never tried a male PCA, nor do I
think I want to. J
Happy new year to everyone
Joan and very sunny Reno
From: hellodav...@aol.com [mailto:hellodav...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 7:33 PM
To: d...@unh.edu; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS
gives a whole new meaning to 'personal care' huh? also 'physical therapy'
In a message dated 1/1/2010 8:25:26 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
d...@unh.edu writes:
Back in the day, one of my friends who was in rehab fooled around
with the nurses. Alas, I never had such luck in either rehab or
college. However, I have had some very fun PCA's. :-)
Dan
At 09:23 PM 1/1/2010, Tod E. Santee said something that elicited my
response:
Yep... my first stint away at college for a couple summer classes
introduced me to a personal care aide who was curious like that
about every male quad on campus! I just happened to be at the main
campus the state's VR system chose to suggest to all/most of its
clients. So she certainly had many of her pickins' grinnin', so to
speak. Funny thing was, I found out she had a boyfriend... big,
hulkin' muscular AB guy!!
--Tod
hellodav...@aol.com wrote:
Now that you mention this - at 19 I had a 28 yr old female P.T. who was
curious just what all was broken along with my neck. An
overnighter to her
place revealed ALL was not lost - worn out, she took me back to the
rehab
hosp - smiling.
AZDAVE
In a message dated 1/1/2010 3:45:14 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
sant...@cox.net writes:
Hmmm... It was over 20 years ago but there was that one quad-hopping
chick in college. Maybe I shouldn't have said, No Thanks. LOL!
You GUYS must know I'm talking about, RIGHT?
But how about you ladies? Are there quad-hoppin' men out there, too,
just looking for a young chick in a chair?
Happy New Year O'-10!
--Tod
shellbell5...@aim.com wrote:
Hi Guys~
This site has helped me in s many ways.??Your your input is
valued~more than you could ever know.
I am only 3 years post injury and the longer I read the
more questions I
have.? At this point the following is most important:
?
For those of you with more living experience as quads, what
would be the
one thing you would do different
or maybe wish?you would have done/or not done over the years??
?
Fortunately I quit smoking before my accident and I no longer drink
alcohol~?
?
THANK YOU AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL
MANY BLESSINGS!
?
Shelly
3 years post
C6-C7 incomplete
???
[QUAD-L] Chair repair (Again)
So after 3 or 4 screw-ups getting my chair fixed (it would come back with more problems than I sent it in with, some minor some major). It finely came back and seemed to be OK. BUT.., I took it out for a longer ride and notice the speed was set about 25% lower. I made an appointment to go in and get it fixed while I was in my chair. They wont let me stay in my chair unless it's a minor thing they can fix in the lobby. I can't go into the shop. The day after it came back 2 things happened. First, was my single post legrest dropped an inch. I had them raise it because they dropped earlier. It has a belt that raises and lowers them as you recline, for less sheering. Probably for the 10th time. I've even had it replaced too. Just a bad design. The belt just slips, maybe Phoenix is just too warm. Secondly, a mercury switch went bad, I think. When I recline or raise my seat, the chair has a mercury switch that sets the speed to very slow. A safety thing. Somehow it got set to very slow all the time. I heard a clank then my chair just slowed. The joystick says Slow on the LED screen even if my seat s down and I'm sitting up. I guess the chair is getting old enough for things to star going bad. At least I can't blame them for these 2 things. I hope they can fix it. I don't want to go months moth without my good chair. Greg
[QUAD-L] New Chair?
Hopefully soon I can qualify for a new chair. For almost 20 years I've used mid or front wheel chairs. My very first chair was a rear wheel, belt driven, 21st Century. It was big, bulky, and pretty fast. Now I'm thinking of going back to that chair. It's better looking now, though still not great. It still uses belt drive. The rear wheel is not much bigger than the front now, not that bike size wheel it used before. The front wheel is a bit bigger than my mid wheel TDX5 uses. That's good for outside, maybe I wont get stuck in gravel as often. Though wider tires might not be as good for indoors. It says it goes 11.6, though with tilt, recline, and seat raiser, that would slow it down some. The Permobil X850 Corpus looks cool, best looking power chair I've seen. But it only does 9 mph. It's just such a cool chair. It's like a mini car. Maybe in the next year I can get one of these. Greg
Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair?
Hopefully soon I can qualify for a new chair. Greg, Start NOW making a list, literally, of things you want for your new chair - right down to the size of the foot plates, arm rest size EVERYTHING. ~ Bobbie
Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair?
Greg, I think 21st Century still makes the old style chairs with the 20 rear tires. I had a new chair made in 2005 and RD said they had no plans to discontinue them (though that WAS 5 years ago). I find the smaller rear wheels getting me stuck in gravel, soft soil, etc. much more often than the more narrow big tires. I specifically decided on the smaller rear tires for just that reason and very quickly was disappointed! It's either that or the weightdistribution with their group 27 batteries causes the small, wide tires to dig in more... not sure. If I was to get another, I'd be asking for the big rear again. (tires, that is) Best! --Tod Greg g...@eskimo.com wrote: Hopefully soon I can qualify for a new chair. For almost 20 years I've used mid or front wheel chairs. My very first chair was a rear wheel, belt driven, 21st Century. It was big, bulky, and pretty fast. Now I'm thinking of going back to that chair. It's better looking now, though still not great. It still uses belt drive. The rear wheel is not much bigger than the front now, not that bike size wheel it used before. The front wheel is a bit bigger than my mid wheel TDX5 uses. That's good for outside, maybe I wont get stuck in gravel as often. Though wider tires might not be as good for indoors. It says it goes 11.6, though with tilt, recline, and seat raiser, that would slow it down some. The Permobil X850 Corpus looks cool, best looking power chair I've seen. But it only does 9 mph. It's just such a cool chair. It's like a mini car. Maybe in the next year I can get one of these. Greg
Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair?
My last two chairs have been 21st century. And I always get the large 20 inch rear wheels. As long as the drive belts are tight, the wheels don't bog down. Also, I always get the pneumatic tires of course flat tires are inevitable but Wal-Mart sells the inner tubes for $2.35 apiece. And they are much easier to change than those small drive wheels. Hell even my PCA's can do it. Dan At 05:50 PM 1/2/2010, Tod E. Santee said something that elicited my response: Greg, I think 21st Century still makes the old style chairs with the 20 rear tires. I had a new chair made in 2005 and RD said they had no plans to discontinue them (though that WAS 5 years ago). I find the smaller rear wheels getting me stuck in gravel, soft soil, etc. much more often than the more narrow big tires. I specifically decided on the smaller rear tires for just that reason and very quickly was disappointed! It's either that or the weightdistribution with their group 27 batteries causes the small, wide tires to dig in more... not sure. If I was to get another, I'd be asking for the big rear again. (tires, that is) Best! --Tod Greg g...@eskimo.com wrote: Hopefully soon I can qualify for a new chair. For almost 20 years I've used mid or front wheel chairs. My very first chair was a rear wheel, belt driven, 21st Century. It was big, bulky, and pretty fast. Now I'm thinking of going back to that chair. It's better looking now, though still not great. It still uses belt drive. The rear wheel is not much bigger than the front now, not that bike size wheel it used before. The front wheel is a bit bigger than my mid wheel TDX5 uses. That's good for outside, maybe I wont get stuck in gravel as often. Though wider tires might not be as good for indoors. It says it goes 11.6, though with tilt, recline, and seat raiser, that would slow it down some. The Permobil X850 Corpus looks cool, best looking power chair I've seen. But it only does 9 mph. It's just such a cool chair. It's like a mini car. Maybe in the next year I can get one of these. Greg
Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS
don't be a bitch, don't be a prick to your help; don't blame the world for the fact that you're a quad, chances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place; always have extra supplies on hand!!! Yeah I know I haven't been a quad for very long. And I know I sound a little crass, but remember these words are typed, not spoken. But there is one person on this board that I've spoken to over the phone (you know who you are) that can attest to the fact that I'm not crass when speaking. Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN --- On Fri, 1/1/10, medethics Cvlrights medeth...@yahoo.com wrote: From: medethics Cvlrights medeth...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS To: Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 5:40 PM I meant to say right Please don't mind the typos...been a long day. If I could offer the list a recommendation, it would be to give these emails an edit option AFTER being sent :-) Peace! From: medethics Cvlrights medeth...@yahoo.com To: Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 6:37:33 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS Ah, okay... What would I have done differently? Gosh, not gotten in the car that day when I was in the accident? Stayed in bed? Then I wouldn't have been there when that drunk driver took his truck, ran the stop sign and ran over my car... What else may I have done differently? I think I did the right thing after they dropped me on the floor- to go home by taxi- discharging myself. Maybe should have gone directly to a trauma 1 center. I would say continuing with education is tops...would have probably liked to been more active but pain, access issues, transportation too precedence. Probably would also be, if I were to give advice, look for any support you can. Apply for Medicaid Waivers to get more homecare options right away. Apply for funding for home modifications, get family educated and on board.. and be a good self- advocate.. When I was not able to talk well due to injury, could still write. Having someone with me during doctors appts was important. And other, is to avoid going for unneccessary tests to prove to someone that my nerve pain was real. Okay, just docs using this to make a buck.. and cover themselves for not listening or working with me, or not being educated in the field of spinal cord injury.Probably best recommendation to offer would be to stay away from community hospitals, and stick with experts in SCI, at almost all costs. Avoid neurologists, stick with physiatrists. And other thing I did write, keep my cats as my companions. May today be the best start for the rest of the year. Advice- make it this way... we can... one day at a time. Peace to you all--- From: Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net To: medethics Cvlrights medeth...@yahoo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 5:58:04 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS (Ah.. but you DO know!) Anyway, the question was this: For those of you with more living experience as quads, what would be the one thing you would do different or maybe wish?you would have done/or not done over the years?? I took that to mean SINCE Quad-hood. There are several things I can think of pre-Quad that I might have done differently but had I done any of them, Quadhood might not even be on my radar (assuming I'd still have radar that functioned, that is). medethics Cvlrights medeth...@yahoo.com wrote: Not going there.. but question, was this thread about what we regret, or about what worked for us as a quad and suggestions to others for the future? From: Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 5:45:00 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS Hmmm... It was over 20 years ago but there was that one quad-hopping chick in college. Maybe I shouldn't have said, No Thanks. LOL! You GUYS must know I'm talking about, RIGHT? But how about you ladies? Are there quad-hoppin' men out there, too, just looking for a young chick in a chair? Happy New Year O'-10! --Tod shellbell5...@aim.com wrote: Hi Guys~ This site has helped me in s many ways.??Your your input is valued~more than you could ever know. I am only 3 years post injury and the longer I read the more questions I have.? At this point the following is most important: ? For those of you with more living experience as quads, what would be the one thing you would do different or maybe wish?you would have done/or not done over the years?? ? Fortunately I quit smoking before my accident and I no longer drink alcohol~? ? THANK YOU AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL MANY BLESSINGS! ? Shelly 3 years post C6-C7 incomplete ???
Re: [QUAD-L] A card from Richard Kratt
sorry for the late response, but thank you. I especially loved the dog! Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN --- On Thu, 12/31/09, rkr...@sbcglobal.net rkr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: rkr...@sbcglobal.net rkr...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [QUAD-L] A card from Richard Kratt To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 8:08 PM Dear Quadlist, Richard Kratt (rkr...@sbcglobal.net) has sent you a Jacquie Lawson electronic greeting card. Please click on the following link to see your card. If your e-mail program has not displayed this as a link, then please copy the following into the Address or Location bar of your Internet browser. http://www.jacquielawson.com/viewcard.asp?code=2166935464904source=jl999 Alternatively, please visit http://www.jacquielawson.com and select the Pick Up Card option in the menu. Then enter your card code, which is: 2166935464904 If you have any problem at all viewing your card, please click here: http://www.jacquielawson.com/help_1.asp If you do not wish to receive e-cards from jacquielawson.com, please click here: http://www.jacquielawson.com/donotsend.asp Our ref: JLC490446769-CS / 2166935464904 jacquielawson.com
Re: [QUAD-L] A card from Richard Kratt
That card was so cool, I love that dog and his ability to get food while no one was noticing. Happy new year everyone! God bless you all. Dana
RE: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS
You're not crass at all, Lucinda. I consider your recommendations profound and well spoken! With love and warmest wishes, Steve - C4, 21 years From: LJT [mailto:ljtbe...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 8:18 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS don't be a bitch, don't be a prick to your help; don't blame the world for the fact that you're a quad, chances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place; always have extra supplies on hand!!! Yeah I know I haven't been a quad for very long. And I know I sound a little crass, but remember these words are typed, not spoken. But there is one person on this board that I've spoken to over the phone (you know who you are) that can attest to the fact that I'm not crass when speaking. Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN --- On Fri, 1/1/10, medethics Cvlrights medeth...@yahoo.com wrote: From: medethics Cvlrights medeth...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS To: Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 5:40 PM I meant to say right Please don't mind the typos...been a long day. If I could offer the list a recommendation, it would be to give these emails an edit option AFTER being sent :-) Peace! _ From: medethics Cvlrights medeth...@yahoo.com To: Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 6:37:33 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS Ah, okay... What would I have done differently? Gosh, not gotten in the car that day when I was in the accident? Stayed in bed? Then I wouldn't have been there when that drunk driver took his truck, ran the stop sign and ran over my car... What else may I have done differently? I think I did the right thing after they dropped me on the floor- to go home by taxi- discharging myself. Maybe should have gone directly to a trauma 1 center. I would say continuing with education is tops...would have probably liked to been more active but pain, access issues, transportation too precedence. Probably would also be, if I were to give advice, look for any support you can. Apply for Medicaid Waivers to get more homecare options right away. Apply for funding for home modifications, get family educated and on board.. and be a good self- advocate.. When I was not able to talk well due to injury, could still write. Having someone with me during doctors appts was important. And other, is to avoid going for unneccessary tests to prove to someone that my nerve pain was real. Okay, just docs using this to make a buck.. and cover themselves for not listening or working with me, or not being educated in the field of spinal cord injury. Probably best recommendation to offer would be to stay away from community hospitals, and stick with experts in SCI, at almost all costs. Avoid neurologists, stick with physiatrists. And other thing I did write, keep my cats as my companions. May today be the best start for the rest of the year. Advice- make it this way... we can... one day at a time. Peace to you all--- _ From: Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net To: medethics Cvlrights medeth...@yahoo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 5:58:04 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS (Ah.. but you DO know!) Anyway, the question was this: For those of you with more living experience as quads, what would be the one thing you would do different or maybe wish?you would have done/or not done over the years?? I took that to mean SINCE Quad-hood. There are several things I can think of pre-Quad that I might have done differently but had I done any of them, Quadhood might not even be on my radar (assuming I'd still have radar that functioned, that is). medethics Cvlrights medeth...@yahoo.com wrote: Not going there.. but question, was this thread about what we regret, or about what worked for us as a quad and suggestions to others for the future? From: Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 5:45:00 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS Hmmm... It was over 20 years ago but there was that one quad-hopping chick in college. Maybe I shouldn't have said, No Thanks. LOL! You GUYS must know I'm talking about, RIGHT? But how about you ladies? Are there quad-hoppin' men out there, too, just looking for a young chick in a chair? Happy New Year O'-10! --Tod shellbell5...@aim.com wrote: Hi Guys~ This site has helped me in s many ways.??Your your input is valued~more than you could ever know. I am only 3 years post injury and the longer I read the more questions I have.? At this point the following is most important: ? For those of you with more living experience as quads, what would be the one thing you would do different or maybe wish?you would have done/or not done over the years?? ? Fortunately I quit
Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS
Interesting thought Lucinda, and you just might be right. Some here might be guilty as charged but there is/are a small percentage of subscribers, such as out esteemed host who is not guilty of anything, and yet was still forced to join the planet of Quadrum. Still you are right about not blaming the world. Wishing you a Happy New Year and a good one at that! Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 7:28:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, ljtbe...@yahoo.com writes: don't be a bitch, don't be a prick to your help; don't blame the world for the fact that you're a quad, chances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place; always have extra supplies on hand!!! Yeah I know I haven't been a quad for very long. And I know I sound a little crass, but remember these words are typed, not spoken. But there is one person on this board that I've spoken to over the phone (you know who you are) that can attest to the fact that I'm not crass when speaking. Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN --- On Fri, 1/1/10, medethics Cvlrights medeth...@yahoo.com wrote: From: medethics Cvlrights medeth...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS To: Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 5:40 PM I meant to say right Please don't mind the typos...been a long day. If I could offer the list a recommendation, it would be to give these emails an edit option AFTER being sent :-) Peace! From: medethics Cvlrights medeth...@yahoo.com To: Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 6:37:33 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS Ah, okay... What would I have done differently? Gosh, not gotten in the car that day when I was in the accident? Stayed in bed? Then I wouldn't have been there when that drunk driver took his truck, ran the stop sign and ran over my car... What else may I have done differently? I think I did the right thing after they dropped me on the floor- to go home by taxi- discharging myself. Maybe should have gone directly to a trauma 1 center. I would say continuing with education is tops...would have probably liked to been more active but pain, access issues, transportation too precedence. Probably would also be, if I were to give advice, look for any support you can. Apply for Medicaid Waivers to get more homecare options right away. Apply for funding for home modifications, get family educated and on board.. and be a good self- advocate.. When I was not able to talk well due to injury, could still write. Having someone with me during doctors appts was important. And other, is to avoid going for unneccessary tests to prove to someone that my nerve pain was real. Okay, just docs using this to make a buck.. and cover themselves for not listening or working with me, or not being educated in the field of spinal cord injury. Probably best recommendation to offer would be to stay away from community hospitals, and stick with experts in SCI, at almost all costs. Avoid neurologists, stick with physiatrists. And other thing I did write, keep my cats as my companions. May today be the best start for the rest of the year. Advice- make it this way... we can... one day at a time. Peace to you all--- From: Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net To: medethics Cvlrights medeth...@yahoo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 5:58:04 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS (Ah.. but you DO know!) Anyway, the question was this: For those of you with more living experience as quads, what would be the one thing you would do different or maybe wish?you would have done/or not done over the years?? I took that to mean SINCE Quad-hood. There are several things I can think of pre-Quad that I might have done differently but had I done any of them, Quadhood might not even be on my radar (assuming I'd still have radar that functioned, that is). medethics Cvlrights _medeth...@yahoo.com_ (mip://05dacde0/mc/compose?to=medeth...@yahoo.com) wrote: Not going there.. but question, was this thread about what we regret, or about what worked for us as a quad and suggestions to others for the future? From: Tod E. Santee _sant...@cox.net_ (mip://05dacde0/mc/compose?to=sant...@cox.net) To: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mip://05dacde0/mc/compose?to=quad-l...@eskimo.com) Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 5:45:00 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS Hmmm... It was over 20 years ago but there was that one quad-hopping chick in college. Maybe I shouldn't have said, No Thanks. LOL! You GUYS must know I'm talking about, RIGHT? But how about you ladies? Are there quad-hoppin' men out there, too, just looking for a young chick in a chair? Happy
Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair?
I might have missed something as the rules for obtaining a new chair has changed in the last 5 years. Just ask anyone who has received one. What you want, you may not get or you may get more. Much depends on how well you follow the protocol, with your doctor, occupational therapist, the DME's ATS, they way the order is coded and pre-approval of CMS. I know of some who were surprised at what they got and others complained. But there is nothing wrong with starting a list and hoping that your doctor and CMS agrees. Happy New Year Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 4:49:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, bobbie...@aol.com writes: Hopefully soon I can qualify for a new chair. Greg, Start NOW making a list, literally, of things you want for your new chair - right down to the size of the foot plates, arm rest size EVERYTHING. ~ Bobbie
Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS
ya know, i've thought thought about this post this part bothers mechances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place...i was adding on to our church when it collapsed... Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com In a message dated 1/2/2010 7:28:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, ljtbe...@yahoo.com writes: don't be a bitch, don't be a prick to your help; don't blame the world for the fact that you're a quad, chances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place; always have extra supplies on hand!!! Yeah I know I haven't been a quad for very long. And I know I sound a little crass, but remember these words are typed, not spoken. But there is one person on this board that I've spoken to over the phone (you know who you are) that can attest to the fact that I'm not crass when speaking. Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN
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Amen Eric. (but I only thought once) Happy New Year Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 8:55:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: ya know, i've thought thought about this post this part bothers mechances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place...i was adding on to our church when it collapsed... Eric W Rudd _c5sc...@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) In a message dated 1/2/2010 7:28:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, ljtbe...@yahoo.com writes: don't be a bitch, don't be a prick to your help; don't blame the world for the fact that you're a quad, chances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place; always have extra supplies on hand!!! Yeah I know I haven't been a quad for very long. And I know I sound a little crass, but remember these words are typed, not spoken. But there is one person on this board that I've spoken to over the phone (you know who you are) that can attest to the fact that I'm not crass when speaking. Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN
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I AGREE ERIC, IT'S JUST NOT A NICE THING TO SAY Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com www.lwgripgloves.com From: wheelch...@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 21:57:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS To: c5sc...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Amen Eric. (but I only thought once) Happy New Year Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 8:55:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: ya know, i've thought thought about this post this part bothers mechances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place...i was adding on to our church when it collapsed... Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com In a message dated 1/2/2010 7:28:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, ljtbe...@yahoo.com writes: don't be a bitch, don't be a prick to your help; don't blame the world for the fact that you're a quad, chances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place; always have extra supplies on hand!!! Yeah I know I haven't been a quad for very long. And I know I sound a little crass, but remember these words are typed, not spoken. But there is one person on this board that I've spoken to over the phone (you know who you are) that can attest to the fact that I'm not crass when speaking. Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/
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I think the qualifying phrase is chances are. Steve - C4, 21 years From: Eric W Rudd [mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:55 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS ya know, i've thought thought about this post this part bothers mechances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place...i was adding on to our church when it collapsed... Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com In a message dated 1/2/2010 7:28:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, ljtbe...@yahoo.com writes: don't be a bitch, don't be a prick to your help; don't blame the world for the fact that you're a quad, chances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place; always have extra supplies on hand!!! Yeah I know I haven't been a quad for very long. And I know I sound a little crass, but remember these words are typed, not spoken. But there is one person on this board that I've spoken to over the phone (you know who you are) that can attest to the fact that I'm not crass when speaking. Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN
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I know Eric, of all the quad stories I know-your's was one of the most honorable, freak accidents...kinda like the hero military or police and firemen that become quad or seriously injured or killed in line of duty... doing something good, when something bad happens. Dan H. From: Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 8:54:40 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS ya know, i've thought thought about this post this part bothers mechances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place...i was adding on to our church when it collapsed... Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com In a message dated 1/2/2010 7:28:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, ljtbe...@yahoo.com writes: don't be a bitch, don't be a prick to your help; don't blame the world for the fact that you're a quad, chances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place; always have extra supplies on hand!!! Yeah I know I haven't been a quad for very long. And I know I sound a little crass, but remember these words are typed, not spoken. But there is one person on this board that I've spoken to over the phone (you know who you are) that can attest to the fact that I'm not crass when speaking. Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN
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In a message dated 1/2/2010 9:55:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: ya know, i've thought thought about this post this part bothers mechances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place...i was adding on to our church when it collapsed... Eric, I know what you mean. I went to sleep in a boat! Not true in all cases!
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In a message dated 1/2/2010 9:58:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, wheelch...@aol.com writes: Amen Eric. (but I only thought once)- funny.
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In a message dated 1/2/2010 10:11:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, lissw...@hotmail.com writes: I AGREE ERIC, IT'S JUST NOT A NICE THING TO SAY No, it's not but I thought it was just me.
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I can easily explain that. I have a feeble mind, that is being repaired and I'm using a loaner. Happy New Year Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 9:20:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, diannal...@aol.com writes: In a message dated 1/2/2010 9:58:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, wheelch...@aol.com writes: Amen Eric. (but I only thought once)- funny.
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please turn the spotlite away lol...how about the one who was walkin across the room collasped hittin the fireplace? Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: wheelch...@aol.com To: diannal...@aol.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS I can easily explain that. I have a feeble mind, that is being repaired and I'm using a loaner. Happy New Year Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 9:20:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, diannal...@aol.com writes: In a message dated 1/2/2010 9:58:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, wheelch...@aol.com writes: Amen Eric. (but I only thought once)- funny.
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and don't forget those who suffered from the Pirate Syndrome. Forced to take a long walk... from a very short plank.. eh matey! Happy New Year Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 9:50:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: please turn the spotlite away lol...how about the one who was walkin across the room collasped hittin the fireplace? Eric W Rudd _c5sc...@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) - Original Message - From: _wheelch...@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) To: _diannal...@aol.com_ (mailto:diannal...@aol.com) ; _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS I can easily explain that. I have a feeble mind, that is being repaired and I'm using a loaner. Happy New Year Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 9:20:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, _diannal...@aol.com_ (mailto:diannal...@aol.com) writes: In a message dated 1/2/2010 9:58:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, _wheelch...@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) writes: Amen Eric. (but I only thought once)- funny.
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Its NOT normal and yes it is strange. Unless you have several guard dogs that get their jollies from eating flesh, I would not provide on bit of info. Make sure that you tag that person's information can contact your local police department if they persist. Now you are wiser and let's keep it that way Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 10:05:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, lissw...@hotmail.com writes: Just recently I became familiar with the term Devotee, I guess it reffers to people that are attracted to quads and paras, or is it disabled people in general? Anyway, this devotee guy added me on msn messenger recently, he found me on a quad group on facebook, I normally don't accept people I don't know but his name seemed familiar, so I was curious to know who this person was and I accepted him, now he wants to chat with me all the time, he asks me all kinds of questions about my condition and it anoys me sometimes, I might just block him. He says it's a thrill for him to chat with me, I think that's just weird, as well as the whole devotee thing, I've never heard of it before. Is it something normal or is it just a freaky thing? This guy even wants to meet me, he doesn't live far from me, of course I would never go for it, he says he's 22 years old which is too young for me, not that I would ever be interested anyway. I'm interested in hearing more about this Devotee term though, anyone?? Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 _www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com_ (http://www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com/) _www.lwgripgloves.com_ (http://www.lwgripgloves.com/) Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. _Sign up now._ (http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/) =
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Oh for sure! I wouldn't give him any personal information, I know better than that. I have 7 dogs, including a german shephard but I still wouldn't take a chance lol. Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com www.lwgripgloves.com From: wheelch...@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 23:09:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee To: lissw...@hotmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Its NOT normal and yes it is strange. Unless you have several guard dogs that get their jollies from eating flesh, I would not provide on bit of info. Make sure that you tag that person's information can contact your local police department if they persist. Now you are wiser and let's keep it that way Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 10:05:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, lissw...@hotmail.com writes: Just recently I became familiar with the term Devotee, I guess it reffers to people that are attracted to quads and paras, or is it disabled people in general? Anyway, this devotee guy added me on msn messenger recently, he found me on a quad group on facebook, I normally don't accept people I don't know but his name seemed familiar, so I was curious to know who this person was and I accepted him, now he wants to chat with me all the time, he asks me all kinds of questions about my condition and it anoys me sometimes, I might just block him. He says it's a thrill for him to chat with me, I think that's just weird, as well as the whole devotee thing, I've never heard of it before. Is it something normal or is it just a freaky thing? This guy even wants to meet me, he doesn't live far from me, of course I would never go for it, he says he's 22 years old which is too young for me, not that I would ever be interested anyway. I'm interested in hearing more about this Devotee term though, anyone?? Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com www.lwgripgloves.com Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. = _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/
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devotees are 'predators'...ur on the internet have found the bottom feeders Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: wheelch...@aol.com To: lissw...@hotmail.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee Its NOT normal and yes it is strange. Unless you have several guard dogs that get their jollies from eating flesh, I would not provide on bit of info. Make sure that you tag that person's information can contact your local police department if they persist. Now you are wiser and let's keep it that way Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 10:05:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, lissw...@hotmail.com writes: Just recently I became familiar with the term Devotee, I guess it reffers to people that are attracted to quads and paras, or is it disabled people in general? Anyway, this devotee guy added me on msn messenger recently, he found me on a quad group on facebook, I normally don't accept people I don't know but his name seemed familiar, so I was curious to know who this person was and I accepted him, now he wants to chat with me all the time, he asks me all kinds of questions about my condition and it anoys me sometimes, I might just block him. He says it's a thrill for him to chat with me, I think that's just weird, as well as the whole devotee thing, I've never heard of it before. Is it something normal or is it just a freaky thing? This guy even wants to meet me, he doesn't live far from me, of course I would never go for it, he says he's 22 years old which is too young for me, not that I would ever be interested anyway. I'm interested in hearing more about this Devotee term though, anyone?? Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com www.lwgripgloves.com Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. =
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nooo... now I'm scared! thanx for the advice though :) Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com www.lwgripgloves.com From: c5sc...@gmail.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 22:17:14 -0600 devotees are 'predators'...ur on the internet have found the bottom feeders Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: wheelch...@aol.com To: lissw...@hotmail.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee Its NOT normal and yes it is strange. Unless you have several guard dogs that get their jollies from eating flesh, I would not provide on bit of info. Make sure that you tag that person's information can contact your local police department if they persist. Now you are wiser and let's keep it that way Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 10:05:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, lissw...@hotmail.com writes: Just recently I became familiar with the term Devotee, I guess it reffers to people that are attracted to quads and paras, or is it disabled people in general? Anyway, this devotee guy added me on msn messenger recently, he found me on a quad group on facebook, I normally don't accept people I don't know but his name seemed familiar, so I was curious to know who this person was and I accepted him, now he wants to chat with me all the time, he asks me all kinds of questions about my condition and it anoys me sometimes, I might just block him. He says it's a thrill for him to chat with me, I think that's just weird, as well as the whole devotee thing, I've never heard of it before. Is it something normal or is it just a freaky thing? This guy even wants to meet me, he doesn't live far from me, of course I would never go for it, he says he's 22 years old which is too young for me, not that I would ever be interested anyway. I'm interested in hearing more about this Devotee term though, anyone?? Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com www.lwgripgloves.com Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. = _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/
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Providing your address is NOT a good way to maintain anonymity.. I just Googled your address and see an apartment building n.e. of Broadway and Oxford Streets just off I-5 and Palomar St. - looks to be near the bottom of San Diego bay. The street view points to a Goodwill store in a strip mall and a job placement sign. Are you near there? I'd include the pic but eskimo doesn't do pictures. In a message dated 1/2/2010 9:14:27 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, lissw...@hotmail.com writes: Oh for sure! I wouldn't give him any personal information, I know better than that. I have 7 dogs, including a german shephard but I still wouldn't take a chance lol. Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 _www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com_ (http://www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com/) _www.lwgripgloves.com_ (http://www.lwgripgloves.com/) From: wheelch...@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 23:09:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee To: lissw...@hotmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Its NOT normal and yes it is strange. Unless you have several guard dogs that get their jollies from eating flesh, I would not provide on bit of info. Make sure that you tag that person's information can contact your local police department if they persist. Now you are wiser and let's keep it that way Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 10:05:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, lissw...@hotmail.com writes: Just recently I became familiar with the term Devotee, I guess it reffers to people that are attracted to quads and paras, or is it disabled people in general? Anyway, this devotee guy added me on msn messenger recently, he found me on a quad group on facebook, I normally don't accept people I don't know but his name seemed familiar, so I was curious to know who this person was and I accepted him, now he wants to chat with me all the time, he asks me all kinds of questions about my condition and it anoys me sometimes, I might just block him. He says it's a thrill for him to chat with me, I think that's just weird, as well as the whole devotee thing, I've never heard of it before. Is it something normal or is it just a freaky thing? This guy even wants to meet me, he doesn't live far from me, of course I would never go for it, he says he's 22 years old which is too young for me, not that I would ever be interested anyway. I'm interested in hearing more about this Devotee term though, anyone?? Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com www.lwgripgloves.com Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. = Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. _Sign up now._ (http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/) =
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I joined a group of 'pretenders' a while back. Yes, they pretend to be disabled and go out in public in chairs and/or crutches to 'enjoy' the experience. Nutjobs. AZDAVE In a message dated 1/2/2010 9:17:26 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: devotees are 'predators'...ur on the internet have found the bottom feeders Eric W Rudd _c5sc...@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) - Original Message - From: _wheelch...@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) To: _lissw...@hotmail.com_ (mailto:lissw...@hotmail.com) ; _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee Its NOT normal and yes it is strange. Unless you have several guard dogs that get their jollies from eating flesh, I would not provide on bit of info. Make sure that you tag that person's information can contact your local police department if they persist. Now you are wiser and let's keep it that way Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 10:05:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, _lissw...@hotmail.com_ (mailto:lissw...@hotmail.com) writes: Just recently I became familiar with the term Devotee, I guess it reffers to people that are attracted to quads and paras, or is it disabled people in general? Anyway, this devotee guy added me on msn messenger recently, he found me on a quad group on facebook, I normally don't accept people I don't know but his name seemed familiar, so I was curious to know who this person was and I accepted him, now he wants to chat with me all the time, he asks me all kinds of questions about my condition and it anoys me sometimes, I might just block him. He says it's a thrill for him to chat with me, I think that's just weird, as well as the whole devotee thing, I've never heard of it before. Is it something normal or is it just a freaky thing? This guy even wants to meet me, he doesn't live far from me, of course I would never go for it, he says he's 22 years old which is too young for me, not that I would ever be interested anyway. I'm interested in hearing more about this Devotee term though, anyone?? Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 _www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com_ (http://www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com/) _www.lwgripgloves.com_ (http://www.lwgripgloves.com/) Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. _Sign up now._ (http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/) =
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i know, i was the very sober driver of 4 others when my right rear tire blew out at which point i lost control of the steering, hit the ditch, rolled 3 times, the roof hit my head really hard on the 2nd roll, and caused the injury. and no, i was not going over the speed limit... Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 8:54 PM ya know, i've thought thought about this post this part bothers mechances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place...i was adding on to our church when it collapsed... Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com In a message dated 1/2/2010 7:28:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, ljtbe...@yahoo.com writes: don't be a bitch, don't be a prick to your help; don't blame the world for the fact that you're a quad, chances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place; always have extra supplies on hand!!! Yeah I know I haven't been a quad for very long. And I know I sound a little crass, but remember these words are typed, not spoken. But there is one person on this board that I've spoken to over the phone (you know who you are) that can attest to the fact that I'm not crass when speaking. Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN
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i'd recommend takin ur addy out of ur sig for onethese are public posts Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Lissette Whitehead To: c5sc...@gmail.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:29 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee nooo... now I'm scared! thanx for the advice though :) Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com www.lwgripgloves.com -- From: c5sc...@gmail.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 22:17:14 -0600 devotees are 'predators'...ur on the internet have found the bottom feeders Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: wheelch...@aol.com To: lissw...@hotmail.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee Its NOT normal and yes it is strange. Unless you have several guard dogs that get their jollies from eating flesh, I would not provide on bit of info. Make sure that you tag that person's information can contact your local police department if they persist. Now you are wiser and let's keep it that way Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 10:05:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, lissw...@hotmail.com writes: Just recently I became familiar with the term Devotee, I guess it reffers to people that are attracted to quads and paras, or is it disabled people in general? Anyway, this devotee guy added me on msn messenger recently, he found me on a quad group on facebook, I normally don't accept people I don't know but his name seemed familiar, so I was curious to know who this person was and I accepted him, now he wants to chat with me all the time, he asks me all kinds of questions about my condition and it anoys me sometimes, I might just block him. He says it's a thrill for him to chat with me, I think that's just weird, as well as the whole devotee thing, I've never heard of it before. Is it something normal or is it just a freaky thing? This guy even wants to meet me, he doesn't live far from me, of course I would never go for it, he says he's 22 years old which is too young for me, not that I would ever be interested anyway. I'm interested in hearing more about this Devotee term though, anyone?? Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com www.lwgripgloves.com -- -- Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. = -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.
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lol i'd never wish quad or paraplegia on any i mean nobodybut maybe these people Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: hellodav...@aol.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee I joined a group of 'pretenders' a while back. Yes, they pretend to be disabled and go out in public in chairs and/or crutches to 'enjoy' the experience. Nutjobs. AZDAVE In a message dated 1/2/2010 9:17:26 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: devotees are 'predators'...ur on the internet have found the bottom feeders Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: wheelch...@aol.com To: lissw...@hotmail.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee Its NOT normal and yes it is strange. Unless you have several guard dogs that get their jollies from eating flesh, I would not provide on bit of info. Make sure that you tag that person's information can contact your local police department if they persist. Now you are wiser and let's keep it that way Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 10:05:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, lissw...@hotmail.com writes: Just recently I became familiar with the term Devotee, I guess it reffers to people that are attracted to quads and paras, or is it disabled people in general? Anyway, this devotee guy added me on msn messenger recently, he found me on a quad group on facebook, I normally don't accept people I don't know but his name seemed familiar, so I was curious to know who this person was and I accepted him, now he wants to chat with me all the time, he asks me all kinds of questions about my condition and it anoys me sometimes, I might just block him. He says it's a thrill for him to chat with me, I think that's just weird, as well as the whole devotee thing, I've never heard of it before. Is it something normal or is it just a freaky thing? This guy even wants to meet me, he doesn't live far from me, of course I would never go for it, he says he's 22 years old which is too young for me, not that I would ever be interested anyway. I'm interested in hearing more about this Devotee term though, anyone?? Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com www.lwgripgloves.com Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. =
RE: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee
Yeah, I guess you're right! all though I don't use my home address. Lissette Whitehead From: c5sc...@gmail.com To: lissw...@hotmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 22:35:57 -0600 i'd recommend takin ur addy out of ur sig for onethese are public posts Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Lissette Whitehead To: c5sc...@gmail.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:29 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee nooo... now I'm scared! thanx for the advice though :) Lissette Whitehead From: c5sc...@gmail.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 22:17:14 -0600 devotees are 'predators'...ur on the internet have found the bottom feeders Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: wheelch...@aol.com To: lissw...@hotmail.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee Its NOT normal and yes it is strange. Unless you have several guard dogs that get their jollies from eating flesh, I would not provide on bit of info. Make sure that you tag that person's information can contact your local police department if they persist. Now you are wiser and let's keep it that way Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 10:05:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, lissw...@hotmail.com writes: Just recently I became familiar with the term Devotee, I guess it reffers to people that are attracted to quads and paras, or is it disabled people in general? Anyway, this devotee guy added me on msn messenger recently, he found me on a quad group on facebook, I normally don't accept people I don't know but his name seemed familiar, so I was curious to know who this person was and I accepted him, now he wants to chat with me all the time, he asks me all kinds of questions about my condition and it anoys me sometimes, I might just block him. He says it's a thrill for him to chat with me, I think that's just weird, as well as the whole devotee thing, I've never heard of it before. Is it something normal or is it just a freaky thing? This guy even wants to meet me, he doesn't live far from me, of course I would never go for it, he says he's 22 years old which is too young for me, not that I would ever be interested anyway. I'm interested in hearing more about this Devotee term though, anyone?? Lissette Whitehead Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. = Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/
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There are some weirdos out there for sure! Lissette Whitehead From: c5sc...@gmail.com To: hellodav...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 22:40:03 -0600 lol i'd never wish quad or paraplegia on any i mean nobodybut maybe these people Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: hellodav...@aol.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee I joined a group of 'pretenders' a while back. Yes, they pretend to be disabled and go out in public in chairs and/or crutches to 'enjoy' the experience. Nutjobs. AZDAVE In a message dated 1/2/2010 9:17:26 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: devotees are 'predators'...ur on the internet have found the bottom feeders Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: wheelch...@aol.com To: lissw...@hotmail.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee Its NOT normal and yes it is strange. Unless you have several guard dogs that get their jollies from eating flesh, I would not provide on bit of info. Make sure that you tag that person's information can contact your local police department if they persist. Now you are wiser and let's keep it that way Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 10:05:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, lissw...@hotmail.com writes: Just recently I became familiar with the term Devotee, I guess it reffers to people that are attracted to quads and paras, or is it disabled people in general? Anyway, this devotee guy added me on msn messenger recently, he found me on a quad group on facebook, I normally don't accept people I don't know but his name seemed familiar, so I was curious to know who this person was and I accepted him, now he wants to chat with me all the time, he asks me all kinds of questions about my condition and it anoys me sometimes, I might just block him. He says it's a thrill for him to chat with me, I think that's just weird, as well as the whole devotee thing, I've never heard of it before. Is it something normal or is it just a freaky thing? This guy even wants to meet me, he doesn't live far from me, of course I would never go for it, he says he's 22 years old which is too young for me, not that I would ever be interested anyway. I'm interested in hearing more about this Devotee term though, anyone?? Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com www.lwgripgloves.com Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. = _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/
Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS
my point was its not my fault as was insinuated Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: LJT To: quad-list@eskimo.com ; Eric W Rudd Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS i know, i was the very sober driver of 4 others when my right rear tire blew out at which point i lost control of the steering, hit the ditch, rolled 3 times, the roof hit my head really hard on the 2nd roll, and caused the injury. and no, i was not going over the speed limit... Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 8:54 PM ya know, i've thought thought about this post this part bothers mechances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place...i was adding on to our church when it collapsed... Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com In a message dated 1/2/2010 7:28:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, ljtbe...@yahoo.com writes: don't be a bitch, don't be a prick to your help; don't blame the world for the fact that you're a quad, chances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place; always have extra supplies on hand!!! Yeah I know I haven't been a quad for very long. And I know I sound a little crass, but remember these words are typed, not spoken. But there is one person on this board that I've spoken to over the phone (you know who you are) that can attest to the fact that I'm not crass when speaking. Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN
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It's just my po box so I'm not concerned about that. I would never use my home address. Lissette Whitehead From: hellodav...@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 23:30:40 -0500 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee To: quad-list@eskimo.com Providing your address is NOT a good way to maintain anonymity.. I just Googled your address and see an apartment building n.e. of Broadway and Oxford Streets just off I-5 and Palomar St. - looks to be near the bottom of San Diego bay. The street view points to a Goodwill store in a strip mall and a job placement sign. Are you near there? I'd include the pic but eskimo doesn't do pictures. In a message dated 1/2/2010 9:14:27 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, lissw...@hotmail.com writes: Oh for sure! I wouldn't give him any personal information, I know better than that. I have 7 dogs, including a german shephard but I still wouldn't take a chance lol. Lissette Whitehead From: wheelch...@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 23:09:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee To: lissw...@hotmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Its NOT normal and yes it is strange. Unless you have several guard dogs that get their jollies from eating flesh, I would not provide on bit of info. Make sure that you tag that person's information can contact your local police department if they persist. Now you are wiser and let's keep it that way Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 10:05:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, lissw...@hotmail.com writes: Just recently I became familiar with the term Devotee, I guess it reffers to people that are attracted to quads and paras, or is it disabled people in general? Anyway, this devotee guy added me on msn messenger recently, he found me on a quad group on facebook, I normally don't accept people I don't know but his name seemed familiar, so I was curious to know who this person was and I accepted him, now he wants to chat with me all the time, he asks me all kinds of questions about my condition and it anoys me sometimes, I might just block him. He says it's a thrill for him to chat with me, I think that's just weird, as well as the whole devotee thing, I've never heard of it before. Is it something normal or is it just a freaky thing? This guy even wants to meet me, he doesn't live far from me, of course I would never go for it, he says he's 22 years old which is too young for me, not that I would ever be interested anyway. I'm interested in hearing more about this Devotee term though, anyone?? Lissette Whitehead Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. = Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. = _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/
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ah hell no harm, no foul ;-p Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: LJT To: quad-list@eskimo.com ; Eric W Rudd Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS hey everybody, gosh, I'm terribly sorry. As Steve Oldaker said, the qualifying statement was chances are. I certainly did not mean to stir the pot so to speak. And as I said, I didn't mean to come across as sounding crass. It's just that I know some very young people who were doing very foolish things, and who felt the world is to blame. I was simply trying to say take blame where blame is due. But then, aren't those wise words to live by anyway? Please accept my apologies if I've offended anyone. That was not my intention. Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS To: LJT ljtbe...@yahoo.com, quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 10:45 PM my point was its not my fault as was insinuated Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: LJT To: quad-list@eskimo.com ; Eric W Rudd Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS i know, i was the very sober driver of 4 others when my right rear tire blew out at which point i lost control of the steering, hit the ditch, rolled 3 times, the roof hit my head really hard on the 2nd roll, and caused the injury. and no, i was not going over the speed limit... Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] RECOMMENDATIONS To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 8:54 PM ya know, i've thought thought about this post this part bothers mechances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place...i was adding on to our church when it collapsed... Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com In a message dated 1/2/2010 7:28:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, ljtbe...@yahoo.com writes: don't be a bitch, don't be a prick to your help; don't blame the world for the fact that you're a quad, chances are it's your fault and/or your stupidity that put you in a chair in the first place; always have extra supplies on hand!!! Yeah I know I haven't been a quad for very long. And I know I sound a little crass, but remember these words are typed, not spoken. But there is one person on this board that I've spoken to over the phone (you know who you are) that can attest to the fact that I'm not crass when speaking. Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN
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Well, W, Lissette, others... Believe it or not, I don't think it's really not normal or strange at all. In fact, it seems quite normal, as long as they don't become too intrusive or stalkers or anything. Then it's just as criminal as a Lindsey Lohan stalker. Guys -- we are known to watch anything with big boobs, or blonde hair, or red hair, or brunettes, or tall women, short women, women in glasses that look like librarians. Some like really nice feet others like nice hips. Gals -- you tend toward cowboy-types, rocker-types, the rebel guys, sweeping blonde hair with icy-blue eyes, or darker hair and light green Irish-looking eyes, and there's a certain walk that nearly never fails to make ladies' heads turn and check out the backsides of the Levis. These devotees are like the Quad-hoppers I mentioned in another thead -- in fact, they are them, often. Some people are attracted to anyone of a different race, some only to a particular race. Sometimes it's our own race, sometimes it's as far from our own as we imagine. Apply the same logic to these devotees who are curious in those with any disability or a specific disability and it isn't much different. I think it's mostly an issue of human curiosity... we often like to try (or fantasize about trying) something we know very little about. The BIG difference comes in that many of of quads are at a physical disadvantage to a fully AB devotee. He/She might not respect the word No if an unescapeable situation ever occurred. And some devotees, just like any other group of people, like nothing more than to have a position of power and authority over which someone else can't escape. Just think about it... even when our best love leaves in some rampage over this or that, we don't *really* know what attitude they'll return with. We just trust we know them well enough to know the CHANCES are good they'll return in a reasonable state... not a murder/suicide state of mind. Best advice: Always, always, always be certain you know someone very well before you get caught alone in the wrong place at the wrong time! Make sure family and friends know him/her well, also. They normally aren't as blinded by love or curiosity as an involved person is. I agree that FOR ME, a devotee is not my type. But for some... it has worked. I know one couple who've been together for a few years now! Best, and SAFE, wishes! --Tod wheelch...@aol.com wrote: Its NOT normal and yes it is strange. Unless you have several guard dogs that get their jollies from eating flesh, I would not provide on bit of info. Make sure that you tag that person's information can contact your local police department if they persist. Now you are wiser and let's keep it that way Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 10:05:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, lissw...@hotmail.com writes: Just recently I became familiar with the term Devotee, I guess it reffers to people that are attracted to quads and paras, or is it disabled people in general? Anyway, this devotee guy added me on msn messenger recently, he found me on a quad group on facebook, I normally don't accept people I don't know but his name seemed familiar, so I was curious to know who this person was and I accepted him, now he wants to chat with me all the time, he asks me all kinds of questions about my condition and it anoys me sometimes, I might just block him. He says it's a thrill for him to chat with me, I think that's just weird, as well as the whole devotee thing, I've never heard of it before. Is it something normal or is it just a freaky thing? This guy even wants to meet me, he doesn't live far from me, of course I would never go for it, he says he's 22 years old which is too young for me, not that I would ever be interested anyway. I'm interested in hearing more about this Devotee term though, anyone?? Lissette Whitehead
RE: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee
Thanks for the input Tod, I guess it makes sense. I still think it's weird. Maybe not all devotees are weirdos but I would think most are and I did think about them maybe feeling power or that maybe most of them have a certain complex and being with someone disabled helps their complex, I don't know, I guess for some it could be just a weird attraction. This guy for sure isn't normal, he says he thinks spasms are hot lol. Lissette Whitehead Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 22:32:08 -0700 From: sant...@cox.net To: lissw...@hotmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com; wheelch...@aol.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Term Devotee Well, W, Lissette, others... Believe it or not, I don't think it's really not normal or strange at all. In fact, it seems quite normal, as long as they don't become too intrusive or stalkers or anything. Then it's just as criminal as a Lindsey Lohan stalker. Guys -- we are known to watch anything with big boobs, or blonde hair, or red hair, or brunettes, or tall women, short women, women in glasses that look like librarians. Some like really nice feet others like nice hips. Gals -- you tend toward cowboy-types, rocker-types, the rebel guys, sweeping blonde hair with icy-blue eyes, or darker hair and light green Irish-looking eyes, and there's a certain walk that nearly never fails to make ladies' heads turn and check out the backsides of the Levis. These devotees are like the Quad-hoppers I mentioned in another thead -- in fact, they are them, often. Some people are attracted to anyone of a different race, some only to a particular race. Sometimes it's our own race, sometimes it's as far from our own as we imagine. Apply the same logic to these devotees who are curious in those with any disability or a specific disability and it isn't much different. I think it's mostly an issue of human curiosity... we often like to try (or fantasize about trying) something we know very little about. The BIG difference comes in that many of of quads are at a physical disadvantage to a fully AB devotee. He/She might not respect the word No if an unescapeable situation ever occurred. And some devotees, just like any other group of people, like nothing more than to have a position of power and authority over which someone else can't escape. Just think about it... even when our best love leaves in some rampage over this or that, we don't *really* know what attitude they'll return with. We just trust we know them well enough to know the CHANCES are good they'll return in a reasonable state... not a murder/suicide state of mind. Best advice: Always, always, always be certain you know someone very well before you get caught alone in the wrong place at the wrong time! Make sure family and friends know him/her well, also. They normally aren't as blinded by love or curiosity as an involved person is. I agree that FOR ME, a devotee is not my type. But for some... it has worked. I know one couple who've been together for a few years now! Best, and SAFE, wishes! --Tod wheelch...@aol.com wrote: Its NOT normal and yes it is strange. Unless you have several guard dogs that get their jollies from eating flesh, I would not provide on bit of info. Make sure that you tag that person's information can contact your local police department if they persist. Now you are wiser and let's keep it that way Best Wishes In a message dated 1/2/2010 10:05:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, lissw...@hotmail.com writes: Just recently I became familiar with the term Devotee, I guess it reffers to people that are attracted to quads and paras, or is it disabled people in general? Anyway, this devotee guy added me on msn messenger recently, he found me on a quad group on facebook, I normally don't accept people I don't know but his name seemed familiar, so I was curious to know who this person was and I accepted him, now he wants to chat with me all the time, he asks me all kinds of questions about my condition and it anoys me sometimes, I might just block him. He says it's a thrill for him to chat with me, I think that's just weird, as well as the whole devotee thing, I've never heard of it before. Is it something normal or is it just a freaky thing? This guy even wants to meet me, he doesn't live far from me, of course I would never go for it, he says he's 22 years old which is too young for me, not that I would ever be interested anyway. I'm interested in hearing more about this Devotee term though, anyone?? Lissette Whitehead _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/
