Re: Monitor and Install
There also isn't a 68K version of Opera, but it's such a marginal browser on the Mac platform, I wonder why anyone would bother using it anyway. iCab is far superior, and it doesn't *cost* anything. -- the pickle - iCab isn't the fastest beastie on a IIci (yes, I have the cache card and while 32M RAM isn't much it works for what I do...and yes, I plan to get more one day). Also, Opera did promise a 68K version of their browser. However, they have never delivered. Someday I'll try my copy of MacWeb 2.0 just to see how well it works. :P Steve Steve Conrad 810 Main Henrietta, MO 64036 816-494-5692 http://sasha91.0pi.com www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/stonekeep/600 It is no secret (nor should it come as any surprise) that humankind's most noble impulses often surface during the most trying of times, that human spirit rises to the challenge when faced with adversity, that human strength is born from human failings...Is it any wonder, then, that the SDF-1 crew became a tighter family after the fortress had been exiled than it had before? From the log of Captain (later Admiral) Henry Gloval -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Monitor and Install
At 03:23 -0600 on 18/02/03, Steve Conrad wrote: There also isn't a 68K version of Opera, but it's such a marginal browser on the Mac platform, I wonder why anyone would bother using it anyway. iCab is far superior, and it doesn't *cost* anything. -- the pickle - iCab isn't the fastest beastie on a IIci (yes, I have the cache card and It's a lot faster than anything else that works on such a broad range of sites... -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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Paul Tansom wrote: Anyway, straying way OT here, so I'd better stop before I'm reprimanded! A little OT isn't always bad, you are right of course. To finish on a Mac note, are there any recommended sites for free Macs software for older Macs? I've taken a look at the LEM site (obviously) and tracked down WordPerfect 3.5, Nisus and Netscape but feel an AV program would be advisable (I use AVG under 'doze, and my mail is done on Linux CLI so is pretty safe). An SSH client would be handy too. http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 http://fpm.68kmac.com Debain runs nice enough on a 68k in CLI, but challanged in X, still playing. AV for a old mac would be disinfectant, something like that, viri ;) viruses are rare on a 68k mac, heck some may be worth catching. The FAQ is a good place to start. InfoMac, maybe http://www.google.com/mac.html or http://www.geocities.com/texas_macman/MacTroubleshoot.html may fill in some gray spots. A general google search should yeild usable returns. Links in links but worth a sniff. Hotline has a few good 68k servers running, hotline was a mac tool to begin with. Apple has expanded its freeware over the years and is always worth a look, take a shovel. Hope there's something useful. Glad to see you didn't leave Mr. McCann :) -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Monitor and Install
Paul Tansom wrote: Oh, one thing I'm thinking I could try with these screens is hooking them up to an old Amiga or two I still have - is the Multiscan suitable to do this? (If anyone here knows Amigas!). You'll find it a drag on your chip mem than normal especially running higher than 800x600, it will also stuff up your serial connections. Gosh, but it does look pretty. :) You will need the multiscan driver, probably located in Storage/devs/monitors. Test it on a standard commodore monitor. You might take a look at the hacks directory on aminet to see if anyone else has covered the same ground regarding wiring. Lots of ifs, buts and maybes there. A1200/3.1 used as the example. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Monitor and Install
** the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-02-17 03:31]: 1. does anyone know where I can get some more information on the old Apple Multiscan 15 monitors I have. They don't have speakers, which all the closest matches I've found to (15AV, etc.) and have M2978 as the model number. Quite disapointing size of screen wise for what seems to indicate being a 15 screen, but they work. Currently by using a Mac to PC monitor adapter since they use a high density 15 pin connector and not the low density that my 460, 475s, 630 and 6320 have - surely they should connect straight on and not use an adapter, they are after all Sounds like the Australian MS15s I've seen, which also had a VGA connector. I'm pretty sure they support the same resolutions as the normal MS15s. Thanks, I'll have to take a closer look at the specs on them then. I've had them working fine with the Macs I have and the converter, so I could experiment a little! 2. since these machines are from a company I'm looking to wipe them and reinstall a clean system. Not being familiar with Macs I'm not 100% If you wanna wipe and install, just boot from the CD, wipe it out with HD SC Setup or Drive Setup, and then do an installation. Clean installs are for when you want to do a fresh install without reformatting. Aha, thanks for that, I was beginning to think it may have been a bit of a dumb question having read on a bit in the manual and found something on clean installs - I must get on and try it really. The main reason I haven't is the lack of an Apple CD for the LC's - the PPC unit is working OK and I don't really want to mess with it until I know what I'm doing - with any luck the Apple CD I now have will work fine when put into the external casing I've got. I really ought to open the MacOS 8 box too - it's still in its shrink wrap! With any luck I'll track down a cheap copy of 8.6 soon as a few apps I've seen around seem to use it as the minimum requirement (Opera springs to mind as the main one as I want to use it for web page checking). ** end quote [the pickle] -- Paul Tansom: - contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information Internet and Intranet Solutions -- http://www.aptanet.com/ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Monitor and Install
** Sque [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-02-17 09:35]: Oh, one thing I'm thinking I could try with these screens is hooking them up to an old Amiga or two I still have - is the Multiscan suitable to do this? (If anyone here knows Amigas!). You'll find it a drag on your chip mem than normal especially running higher than 800x600, it will also stuff up your serial connections. Gosh, but it does look pretty. :) You will need the multiscan driver, probably located in Storage/devs/monitors. Test it on a standard commodore monitor. You might take a look at the hacks directory on aminet to see if anyone else has covered the same ground regarding wiring. Lots of ifs, buts and maybes there. A1200/3.1 used as the example. Yes, I only have 1M in my A1500 at the moment, but if I'm going to manage to track down an RTG card and get OS 3.9 working then I could do with something better than my current 1084SD! The A1200 I have may do better if I'm lucky - it's all good fun when I've got the time! I'm more than a bit rusty on Amigas these days - I spend most of my time on Linux with the odd bit of 'doze when I have to. I'm learning about Macs now as I got given a few, but would love to find the spare cash to get one that can run OSX, it sounds like fun to me being a *nix type :-) ** end quote [Sque] -- Paul Tansom: - contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information Internet and Intranet Solutions -- http://www.aptanet.com/ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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At 12:11 + on 17/02/03, Paul Tansom wrote: box too - it's still in its shrink wrap! With any luck I'll track down a cheap copy of 8.6 soon as a few apps I've seen around seem to use it as the minimum requirement (Opera springs to mind as the main one as I want to use it for web page checking). Note that 8.6 won't run on anything without a PPC CPU in it, which makes it generally OT for this list except in the cases where it's running on PPC-upgraded Quads (which requires a software hack in most cases). There also isn't a 68K version of Opera, but it's such a marginal browser on the Mac platform, I wonder why anyone would bother using it anyway. iCab is far superior, and it doesn't *cost* anything. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Monitor and Install
Paul Tansom wrote: Yes, I only have 1M in my A1500 at the moment, but if I'm going to manage to track down an RTG card and get OS 3.9 working then I could do with something better than my current 1084SD! The A1200 I have may do better if I'm lucky - it's all good fun when I've got the time! I'm more than a bit rusty on Amigas these days - I spend most of my time on Linux with the odd bit of 'doze when I have to. I'm learning about Macs now as I got given a few, but would love to find the spare cash to get one that can run OSX, it sounds like fun to me being a *nix type :-) Keeping a eye on Amigaone, might just fit the bill if its ever finally finished. Check out the specs if you have time. 1mb of chip should do the job, might depend on one of the chips, Agnus or Denise, sorry getting a bit rusty myself. The 1084 is a good little work horse, should do multiscan without trouble. Copy the Devs/Monitors file across and check the screen res prefs, multiscan should be listed as a option. May need a reboot? Costs me alittle extra more than ntsc hi-res but no where near as much as double scan. Cant recall if double scan chokes the serial port or not. You should find better drivers on aminet than the standard install ones. Lacking the desire to run QSX, yet another update this week (one more update then another paid version). Guess there will be no choice once MYOB no longer supports classic OS. Hard enough finding people who use Mac, not looking forward to teaching people OSX, guess I better find the desire soon or someone will be teaching me. :) Currently running BE, QNX, AmigaDos, Debain, Mandrake, MacOS and Win9x. and not real good on any. ;) Looking for 3.1 roms for the amiga. ** end quote [Sque] -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Monitor and Install
** Sque [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-02-17 13:11]: Paul Tansom wrote: Yes, I only have 1M in my A1500 at the moment, but if I'm going to manage to track down an RTG card and get OS 3.9 working then I could do with something better than my current 1084SD! The A1200 I have may do better if I'm lucky - it's all good fun when I've got the time! I'm more than a bit rusty on Amigas these days - I spend most of my time on Linux with the odd bit of 'doze when I have to. I'm learning about Macs now as I got given a few, but would love to find the spare cash to get one that can run OSX, it sounds like fun to me being a *nix type :-) Keeping a eye on Amigaone, might just fit the bill if its ever finally finished. Check out the specs if you have time. 1mb of chip should do the job, might depend on one of the chips, Agnus or Denise, sorry getting a bit rusty myself. The 1084 is a good little work horse, should do multiscan without trouble. Copy the Devs/Monitors file across and check the screen res prefs, multiscan should be listed as a option. May need a reboot? Costs me alittle extra more than ntsc hi-res but no where near as much as double scan. Cant recall if double scan chokes the serial port or not. You should find better drivers on aminet than the standard install ones. I've looked at the specs, but not really closely as I doubt I'll invest in one. It would be nice if I had spare cash, but I'm more likely to upgrade to another Athlon or a newer Mac than a new Amiga. Lacking the desire to run QSX, yet another update this week (one more update then another paid version). Guess there will be no choice once MYOB no longer supports classic OS. Hard enough finding people who use Mac, not looking forward to teaching people OSX, guess I better find the desire soon or someone will be teaching me. :) Currently running BE, QNX, AmigaDos, Debain, Mandrake, MacOS and Win9x. and not real good on any. ;) Looking for 3.1 roms for the amiga. OS X intrigues me because of its BSD/Linux heratige being a devout Debian user myself. I've not tried Be, I did download a version some time back, but never got a spare box/partition to install it on. I used to be an OS/2 devotee, but got forced across to Windows before finding Linux to save the day. I did have a brief run in with Macs some years back when testing hard drives at IBM - they sort of scared me though because I didn't like the idea of dragging the floppy icon over the Trash to eject it. Not having a button to do the job made me feel nervous, but not as much as the feeling that the action should format the driver rather than eject it!! I probably should have tried Macs earlier given the DTP that I do (not heavy duty, but regular). I've been doing sailing newsletters for many years now starting on an old 8bit Amstrad, then my Amiga (that took some doing, my finger still remembers holding onto the mouse button while I waited for a resize to catch up), and lately on a PC. Unfortunately I don't think my Macs are up to anything DTP wise these days, and there's nothing powerful enough under Linux yet (GUI based before someone chimes in with LaTex). Anyway, straying way OT here, so I'd better stop before I'm reprimanded! To finish on a Mac note, are there any recommended sites for free Macs software for older Macs? I've taken a look at the LEM site (obviously) and tracked down WordPerfect 3.5, Nisus and Netscape but feel an AV program would be advisable (I use AVG under 'doze, and my mail is done on Linux CLI so is pretty safe). An SSH client would be handy too. ** end quote [Sque] -- Paul Tansom: - contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information Internet and Intranet Solutions -- http://www.aptanet.com/ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
