Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-03-05 Thread cooloutac
I love that they use google. Keeps miscreants out. I call this a forum, use it like a forum, and it has the word forum in the google link. The only mail I get in my email, are those threads I have started or subscribed to.I think I check my google mail quarterly lol. -- You received

Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-02-26 Thread Achim Patzner
On 20190225 at 16:00 -0600 John Goold wrote: > Making the leap to "catering to the lowest common denominator" is simply > insulting. No. it's necessary. And often enough people even miss the necessary steps in that setting (like registering their PGP keys... even though it is quite simple). And

[qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-02-25 Thread John Goold
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2/25/19 2:44 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > If you are not smart enough to use a mailinglist you are not smart > enough to use linux. > > Catering to the lowest common denominator is an impossible task > that shouldn't be tried as it always

Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-02-25 Thread taii...@gmx.com
If you are not smart enough to use a mailinglist you are not smart enough to use linux. Catering to the lowest common denominator is an impossible task that shouldn't be tried as it always comes at the expense of everyone else. ML's are the most secure and best method of communication even

Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-02-07 Thread marmot-te
Thank you all for your answers. Thank you for https://qubes-os.info/ I'm discovering it. There is now just one thing who is boring me : i don't like google and don't want to feed the monster. There are others free services for mailing lists, like the very nice Riseup. Whatever, good night and

Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-02-02 Thread 19hundreds
Feb 2, 2019, 1:23 PM by no...@noses.com: > Or stop believing in the false protection > of remaining anonymous. > Do you have reasons to believe that qubes + whonix + vpn (carefully used) is not enough to grant network anonymity? I'm not considering seizing or physical access to hardware.  --

Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-02-02 Thread Stuart Perkins
On Sat, 02 Feb 2019 14:12:53 +0100 Achim Patzner wrote: >Am Donnerstag, den 31.01.2019, 11:10 -0600 schrieb Stuart Perkins: >> Some of us who keep e-mails off line have the additional benefit of having >> an archive of all e-mails since joining the list. > >I don't because I immediately

Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-02-02 Thread Achim Patzner
Am Donnerstag, den 31.01.2019, 20:16 +0100 schrieb 19hundreds: > The problem for me > is that I don't have an anonymous-enough IMAP or POP enabled account > so I'm stuck with Tutanota webinterface. If you know the interface > you can imagine the pain in following a thread. There is no tree- >

Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-02-02 Thread Achim Patzner
Am Donnerstag, den 31.01.2019, 11:10 -0600 schrieb Stuart Perkins: > Some of us who keep e-mails off line have the additional benefit of having an > archive of all e-mails since joining the list. I don't because I immediately erase everything not interesting to me. But that's one of the more

Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-02-01 Thread unman
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:33:33PM -0300, Franz wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 2:11 PM Stuart Perkins > wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:01:58 +0100 (CET) > > 19hundreds <19hundr...@tutanota.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >I agree at some level with what you are saying however, the

Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-01-31 Thread Franz
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 2:11 PM Stuart Perkins wrote: > > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:01:58 +0100 (CET) > 19hundreds <19hundr...@tutanota.com> wrote: > > > > >I agree at some level with what you are saying however, the current > mailing list has a lot of valuable information so I believe it's gonna

Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-01-31 Thread 19hundreds
Jan 31, 2019, 5:15 PM by no...@noses.com: > Before we begin: > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > > Am Donnerstag, den 31.01.2019, 18:01 +0100 schrieb 19hundreds: > >> >> I agree at some level with what you are

Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-01-31 Thread Achim Patzner
Before we begin: A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? Am Donnerstag, den 31.01.2019, 18:01 +0100 schrieb 19hundreds: > > I agree at some level with what you are saying however, the current > mailing list has a lot of

Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-01-31 Thread Stuart Perkins
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:01:58 +0100 (CET) 19hundreds <19hundr...@tutanota.com> wrote: > >I agree at some level with what you are saying however, the current mailing >list has a lot of valuable information so I believe it's gonna be hard to se >it replaced with something else. > >Beside the

Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-01-31 Thread 19hundreds
I agree at some level with what you are saying however, the current mailing list has a lot of valuable information so I believe it's gonna be hard to se it replaced with something else. Beside the unofficial resources listed by others, I add  https://reddit.com/r/qubes

Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-01-30 Thread Zrubi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 1/31/19 12:32 AM, marmot-te wrote: > So, the real question is : There is someone who takes care about it > and optionally, Qubes_dev? There is an unofficial, PoC Qubes User Forum project: https://qubes-os.info/ - -- Zrubi -BEGIN PGP

Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-01-30 Thread David W. Hodgins
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:32:00 -0500, marmot-te wrote: hi here, I understand that list mail is pretty useful, but ... come on, this is not really common user-friendly example 1 : I cannot know what it be said before I subscribe to it Just realized google strips the sig. I'm using

Re: [qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-01-30 Thread David W. Hodgins
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:32:00 -0500, marmot-te wrote: hi here, I understand that list mail is pretty useful, but ... come on, this is not really common user-friendly example 1 : I cannot know what it be said before I subscribe to it As per the signature auto-appended to each

[qubes-users] why mail-list?

2019-01-30 Thread marmot-te
hi here, I understand that list mail is pretty useful, but ... come on, this is not really common user-friendly example 1 : I cannot know what it be said before I subscribe to it example 2 : I know some users of Qubes than who don't give a chance to that mail list, cause it is a new