[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Qubes OS Begins Commercialization and Community Funding Efforts
Hello, 1. have you thought about offering training, consulting and support for companies who want to use Qubes OS in their enterprise? 2. have you thought about developing commercial management solution which makes the deployment, remote administration and monitoring easy? I do not believe that developing a commercial operating system based on an open source foundation will pay off on a long run. However, I agree with you that customized tool and plugin development can provide a valuable source of income. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/98142ccf-a06e-4734-9f5b-656db466f228%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Qubes OS Begins Commercialization and Community Funding Efforts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-12-05 14:01, Grzesiek Chodzicki wrote: > W dniu niedziela, 4 grudnia 2016 09:37:01 UTC+1 użytkownik Andrew David Wong > napisał: >> On 2016-12-03 05:07, Grzesiek Chodzicki wrote: >>> Also, you forgot to post this to qubes-announce Andrew. >>> >> Didn't forget; qubes-announce is strictly for QSBs and new releases: >> >> https://www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists/#qubes-announce >> > My bad then. > No worries. We know that some people are only willing to receive very infrequent messages about critical Qubes announcements, and we want those people to be able to trust qubes-announce for that purpose. We know that if we start sending too many messages through qubes-announce, we'll drive those readers away, so it's very important to us to keep our promise by sending announcements only for QSBs and new Qubes OS releases. - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYRht/AAoJENtN07w5UDAwpNcP/2A3YZloArvt8+d4JLxNeNTk HiMjxAQE2h4SIUQSESjprFi52NUCpTFo/81UcC1pT6dHMPSWKHAZuOytChSnBqHI A86vWbLP92uoqVJKuiGyhu5nAVP9EQBnKMV8ki3GbMzABNjeCIGvpuoGY3clDrIY mc3yS9ArAKrPK99Ovkeuhbi80xrwHCjLyxAD6N0StF53VDsG22Au1mVGuDKwJqWk isZKwyFl/9IG2LgTnNcIjWdv+SDGEi/g1HF0BcUcoG+rxa5O2tLlxJze9e5mdFo/ 6eaIjOrJmNEDZYFRpzNzG7aI3Z3P1td2GpqgKMezsvN7r7ls7RsYY5hnwfvsfmKJ 9YtKC7ALZxAmob+x9bUYWbRum/si7ob777nawAmTBj6irN7FCGrYRxQLFPLolkcm Z9Sf4xhTF9WwLit0zSxSK5HqRRT9cfHpj21c1vN3Xb0kaBjSZlve4CmxGcOLiaK5 XYaRkqAWJ0wcf5ayMDE2Pkze1q3ICjHD39tr5onsMEOj3+815sipHhvZn+5Holp5 nw+RHdACo7QbJUv4Fl0QakgdysXIcNJrSkIgp3WZ/1pTuWEf8te9VGJrDNcos9Or +MvtOU9XFwH0z2eQCq1nSRucHoEcr2XKE4pA93dh/9HgbK7Ql78gXdbTK2N1BWLj 87eAVCfNsdCayrz/uVMe =q9LD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ea52a1ec-2add-4534-638d-5a99ca291b0e%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Qubes OS Begins Commercialization and Community Funding Efforts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-12-05 09:18, Patrick Bouldin wrote: > Hi Andrew, ok - after reading it a couple more times I got the total gist. > Not sure who all was hired but hopefully there will be sufficient marketing > efforts to get them funded long term. > > Thanks, > Patrick > > Dallas, TX > Just to clarify, I'm not aware of anyone having been newly hired specifically in connection with this announcement. Rather, I think the idea is that any funds donated through Open Collective will be used to pay individual developers to work on the open source edition of Qubes, whether they're developers who are already working on Qubes (who are listed on the Team page) or new developers hired in the future. - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYRhpWAAoJENtN07w5UDAw7IoP/AptSAnCHu0tA6Ojhlx2iVHd ux6Qmt7edr8EFsrQLF+nAEluyWvt2yF48sFYHyX6a7EX+WQq5sRFJ+c0xkiLRjql l8giDlrPs1EfxVptdSYWZJh7L1qnO80CmaxXBK3mkwtCQHvktOqW5xFsKFYwC6Ze K69hqUD/TPRfq30fW+c4L1TMVt2K9le5XxU+djKSIpOwqUTxisSIy1yvv6r19o3B MiRgAj1VTl+NxHc7K8PzJbJMOZ5v3s+T5CoBy6fYYmntWkt1vBKuFjjTRoRtXRqt 56DSUnxRv1DKbO/r8d860kjDhxjFkLy4ZFo3BodxtqArOzmZITDu4V8Vhc47I1hf V/zfPGWZGYOS4zGcxkRzGJugnEAVV36a5/grCILihD2M8zxp8cAQOt/z20ryeMZ3 pYO43YFw2WZ2dNlBX55ph/gNWwHvIKpIJZN+NEk10/NuCiHnXP7BKYzIIcWylX7K ofD1kTH7WG1XxHI+73rYZqXQXjxNilFSkwZYz2JXmacKp/ap/dMwJabeRnPjv/vo 8fbwFF2dpQ+iydM9vKfaq0upCuwXAEeaQLkjlKhkak5xp08dAxjmBIVrGrjOuXQ/ 5BoESHkYjgiZLhoiOKngeeNNgN65y43dQDJ3PpP4NybueAgF+zlUta7SiZizcVqj wJ+h8ZpUezefJ7oi0ArX =ymxe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d8d8e886-6b1c-5986-bdc3-a327c048335b%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Qubes OS Begins Commercialization and Community Funding Efforts
W dniu niedziela, 4 grudnia 2016 09:37:01 UTC+1 użytkownik Andrew David Wong napisał: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 2016-12-03 05:07, Grzesiek Chodzicki wrote: > > This is a wonderful idea, there are about 20k Qubes users out there, if we > > al give you guys an equivalent of Windows license price you should be set > > for a millenium. I'd also love to see some Qubes merchandise available to > > buy so I can up my swag game while simultaneously contributing funds. > > > > Thanks! The merchandise ideas has been discussed internally, but we've > decided not to pursue that option at this time. > > > Also, you forgot to post this to qubes-announce Andrew. > > > > Didn't forget; qubes-announce is strictly for QSBs and new releases: > > https://www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists/#qubes-announce > > - -- > Andrew David Wong (Axon) > Community Manager, Qubes OS > https://www.qubes-os.org > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYQ9WhAAoJENtN07w5UDAw9pEQAKdkd/X7l9SwDJHHaWhVHDFp > CSe0lFuLCbnjQiPH34ygV7oRGAoi5Tmqg/AEnxczpmy9hNZ/TYYHx85h1nwa3T7Z > hhE+8jJgPHsvtpBV37GZwSl/IG0YyUInQ0yaEwCSKFDNGSkb5kn/mWdF3745QgNe > tIn5cyHF5skswcFwxh+6TJFnIN9sAiHbDvqHNbNb5lyFShxyBklt55hmybzZ+2Y8 > qopYmMR4MYYRBuzeKx4PPqfBF4+uEHEA9jQzpQBxclpSY4MPGOvgt0gBs+OPBWLG > VGdgcL2yzZIz5667YEO1NVu3FIlKH0B7128tcYEBV5wGTi0KNud7T7kVNSP5Qbvz > BTbaYpri8U/I+i1djHb9aHXkGzMn7oXznwOgCfFJ31YQivjym/E3c/j7ChRqNg0d > FcEQ3Qljz/Qn7LgO94Oj074sFTgBcjKb7pudfByMw1LJrdskCsdiDAGk2u30bLXP > /0l9QRC046NfEjEhVFHZqBpEqEoPiXMDizIy6antlyZx5BrlnIOv1iqETV4gUxaa > WKZx1GTWFZISsGqhPIjGtiO+WLDvhC0QoAzU0dBgxM+4/W3WmP64V1bv4PB5Achf > eYX46kT8SDMLJSVGlD7GQJYpVdbdAUZJfL1TgVTu1+l2xqWRV9F7pzRs5XopmQOX > X33rxAH+Bhc4yM7i41Uv > =GeRw > -END PGP SIGNATURE- My bad then. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/6133abb5-d83c-4b85-8441-16593179edb6%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Qubes OS Begins Commercialization and Community Funding Efforts
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 6:56:11 PM UTC-5, Andrew David Wong wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Dear Qubes Community, > > Since the initial launch [01] of Qubes OS back in April 2010, work on Qubes > has been funded in several different ways. Originally a pet project, it was > first supported by Invisible Things Lab [02] (ITL) out of the money we earned > on various R&D and consulting contracts. Later, we decided that we should try > to > commercialize it. Our idea, back then, was to commercialize Windows AppVM > support. Unlike the rest of Qubes OS, which is licensed under GPLv2, we > thought > we would offer Windows AppVM support under a proprietary license. Even though > we > made a lot of progress on both the business and technical sides of this > endeavor, it ultimately failed. > > Luckily, we got a helping hand from the Open Technology Fund [03] (OTF), which > has supported [04] the project for the past two years. While not a large > sum of money in itself, it did help us a lot, especially with all the work > necessary to improve Qubes' user interface, documentation, and outreach to new > communities. Indeed, the (estimated) Qubes user base has grown [05] > significantly over that period. Thank you, OTF! > > But Qubes is more than just a nice UI: it's an entirely new, complex system -- > a system that aims to change the game of endpoint security. Consequently, it > requires expertise covering a wide spectrum of topics: from understanding > low-level aspects of hardware and firmware (and how they translate to the > security of a desktop system), to UI design, documentation writing, and > community outreach. Even if we consider only the "security research" aspect of > Qubes, this area alone easily scales beyond the capabilities of a single human > being. > > In order to continue to deliver on its promise of strong desktop security, > Qubes > must retain and expand its core team, and this requires substantial funding. > At > this point, we believe the only realistic way to achieve this is through > commercialization, supplemented by community funding. > > > Commercialization > = > > We're taking a different approach to commercialization this time. Building on > the success of the recent Qubes 3.2 release, which has been praised by users > for > its stability and overall usability, we will begin offering commercial > editions > (licenses) of Qubes OS to corporate customers. We believe that the maturity of > Qubes, combined with its powerful new management stack [06], makes it ripe > for adoption by any corporation with significant security needs. > > Commercial editions of Qubes OS will be customized to meet special corporate > requirements. For example, two features that might be particularly attractive > to > corporate customers are (1) "locking down" dom0 in order to separate the user > and administrator roles and (2) integrating our local management stack with a > corporation's remote management infrastructure. These are both examples of > features that our developers are capable of implementing now, on Qubes 3.2. > > We plan to partner with one to three corporate clients in order to run a pilot > program throughout the first half of 2017. After it has been successfully > completed, we'll then widen our offer to more corporate customers and, > ultimately, to small business customers. Our main constraint is the > scalability > required to cover each additional client. Hence, we plan to focus on larger > customers first. > > Let there be no misunderstanding: Qubes OS will always remain open source. We > anticipate that the majority of our commercialization efforts will involve the > creation of custom Salt configurations, and perhaps writing a few additional > apps and integration code. In the event that any corporate features require > reworking the core Qubes code, that new code will remain open source. > > We considered many other ways of attempting to commercialize Qubes before > arriving at this model. One possibility that some of our users have inquired > about is that we sell dedicated Qubes hardware (i.e. laptops). However, there > are a number of challenges here, both in terms of making the hardware > trustworthy enough to merit our "seal of approval", and from a business and > logistics perspective. For these reasons, we don't plan to pursue this option > in > the immediate future. > > > Community funding > = > > Unfortunately, the financial necessity of shifting our priorities to > commercial > clients will mean that we have less time to work on features that benefit the > wider, security-minded open source community, which has been our focus for the > past seven years. This deeply saddens us. (We all use Qubes on our personal > computers too!) However, the reality is that ITL can't afford to sustain the > open source development of Qubes for much longer. We're running out of time. > > In a
[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Qubes OS Begins Commercialization and Community Funding Efforts
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 6:56:11 PM UTC-5, Andrew David Wong wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Dear Qubes Community, > > Since the initial launch [01] of Qubes OS back in April 2010, work on Qubes > has been funded in several different ways. Originally a pet project, it was > first supported by Invisible Things Lab [02] (ITL) out of the money we earned > on various R&D and consulting contracts. Later, we decided that we should try > to > commercialize it. Our idea, back then, was to commercialize Windows AppVM > support. Unlike the rest of Qubes OS, which is licensed under GPLv2, we > thought > we would offer Windows AppVM support under a proprietary license. Even though > we > made a lot of progress on both the business and technical sides of this > endeavor, it ultimately failed. > > Luckily, we got a helping hand from the Open Technology Fund [03] (OTF), which > has supported [04] the project for the past two years. While not a large > sum of money in itself, it did help us a lot, especially with all the work > necessary to improve Qubes' user interface, documentation, and outreach to new > communities. Indeed, the (estimated) Qubes user base has grown [05] > significantly over that period. Thank you, OTF! > > But Qubes is more than just a nice UI: it's an entirely new, complex system -- > a system that aims to change the game of endpoint security. Consequently, it > requires expertise covering a wide spectrum of topics: from understanding > low-level aspects of hardware and firmware (and how they translate to the > security of a desktop system), to UI design, documentation writing, and > community outreach. Even if we consider only the "security research" aspect of > Qubes, this area alone easily scales beyond the capabilities of a single human > being. > > In order to continue to deliver on its promise of strong desktop security, > Qubes > must retain and expand its core team, and this requires substantial funding. > At > this point, we believe the only realistic way to achieve this is through > commercialization, supplemented by community funding. > > > Commercialization > = > > We're taking a different approach to commercialization this time. Building on > the success of the recent Qubes 3.2 release, which has been praised by users > for > its stability and overall usability, we will begin offering commercial > editions > (licenses) of Qubes OS to corporate customers. We believe that the maturity of > Qubes, combined with its powerful new management stack [06], makes it ripe > for adoption by any corporation with significant security needs. > > Commercial editions of Qubes OS will be customized to meet special corporate > requirements. For example, two features that might be particularly attractive > to > corporate customers are (1) "locking down" dom0 in order to separate the user > and administrator roles and (2) integrating our local management stack with a > corporation's remote management infrastructure. These are both examples of > features that our developers are capable of implementing now, on Qubes 3.2. > > We plan to partner with one to three corporate clients in order to run a pilot > program throughout the first half of 2017. After it has been successfully > completed, we'll then widen our offer to more corporate customers and, > ultimately, to small business customers. Our main constraint is the > scalability > required to cover each additional client. Hence, we plan to focus on larger > customers first. > > Let there be no misunderstanding: Qubes OS will always remain open source. We > anticipate that the majority of our commercialization efforts will involve the > creation of custom Salt configurations, and perhaps writing a few additional > apps and integration code. In the event that any corporate features require > reworking the core Qubes code, that new code will remain open source. > > We considered many other ways of attempting to commercialize Qubes before > arriving at this model. One possibility that some of our users have inquired > about is that we sell dedicated Qubes hardware (i.e. laptops). However, there > are a number of challenges here, both in terms of making the hardware > trustworthy enough to merit our "seal of approval", and from a business and > logistics perspective. For these reasons, we don't plan to pursue this option > in > the immediate future. > > > Community funding > = > > Unfortunately, the financial necessity of shifting our priorities to > commercial > clients will mean that we have less time to work on features that benefit the > wider, security-minded open source community, which has been our focus for the > past seven years. This deeply saddens us. (We all use Qubes on our personal > computers too!) However, the reality is that ITL can't afford to sustain the > open source development of Qubes for much longer. We're running out of time. > > In a
[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Qubes OS Begins Commercialization and Community Funding Efforts
It's a bit saddening to hear priorities are shifting to commercial clients, but for the rest it's great news, a good way to keep Qubes going! > In an attempt to keep the open source development of Qubes going, we've teamed > up with Open Collective [07], which makes it easier to donate to the Qubes > project. Now, in addition to our Bitcoin fund [08], we can also accept > donations via credit card. Good to hear, but I would recommend adding more payment options like Paypal so it's easier for users in other parts of the world, where credit card is not a widely used, to support you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/72d52e11-346d-49ff-8506-4564887090fa%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Qubes OS Begins Commercialization and Community Funding Efforts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-12-03 05:07, Grzesiek Chodzicki wrote: > This is a wonderful idea, there are about 20k Qubes users out there, if we al > give you guys an equivalent of Windows license price you should be set for a > millenium. I'd also love to see some Qubes merchandise available to buy so I > can up my swag game while simultaneously contributing funds. > Thanks! The merchandise ideas has been discussed internally, but we've decided not to pursue that option at this time. > Also, you forgot to post this to qubes-announce Andrew. > Didn't forget; qubes-announce is strictly for QSBs and new releases: https://www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists/#qubes-announce - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYQ9WhAAoJENtN07w5UDAw9pEQAKdkd/X7l9SwDJHHaWhVHDFp CSe0lFuLCbnjQiPH34ygV7oRGAoi5Tmqg/AEnxczpmy9hNZ/TYYHx85h1nwa3T7Z hhE+8jJgPHsvtpBV37GZwSl/IG0YyUInQ0yaEwCSKFDNGSkb5kn/mWdF3745QgNe tIn5cyHF5skswcFwxh+6TJFnIN9sAiHbDvqHNbNb5lyFShxyBklt55hmybzZ+2Y8 qopYmMR4MYYRBuzeKx4PPqfBF4+uEHEA9jQzpQBxclpSY4MPGOvgt0gBs+OPBWLG VGdgcL2yzZIz5667YEO1NVu3FIlKH0B7128tcYEBV5wGTi0KNud7T7kVNSP5Qbvz BTbaYpri8U/I+i1djHb9aHXkGzMn7oXznwOgCfFJ31YQivjym/E3c/j7ChRqNg0d FcEQ3Qljz/Qn7LgO94Oj074sFTgBcjKb7pudfByMw1LJrdskCsdiDAGk2u30bLXP /0l9QRC046NfEjEhVFHZqBpEqEoPiXMDizIy6antlyZx5BrlnIOv1iqETV4gUxaa WKZx1GTWFZISsGqhPIjGtiO+WLDvhC0QoAzU0dBgxM+4/W3WmP64V1bv4PB5Achf eYX46kT8SDMLJSVGlD7GQJYpVdbdAUZJfL1TgVTu1+l2xqWRV9F7pzRs5XopmQOX X33rxAH+Bhc4yM7i41Uv =GeRw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/03cdbcdc-a275-0992-570a-21fc2efeec02%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Qubes OS Begins Commercialization and Community Funding Efforts
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > Just don't get corrupted! haha But really I think this is great! I wish > all the success in the world. I still think its the future. I would for > sure by merch(I still want a sticker) too like an above user, and i'm look > into credit card info. > > But ya, If you got a good sales guy to go to some small to midsize companies > and give a presentation, how can anyone refuse!!!??? This sounds exciting to > me. oh and like Fran said don't be ashamed to name drop everyone and everything right off the bat. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8fb280fe-3e0b-4ff9-a816-76478daf66dc%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Qubes OS Begins Commercialization and Community Funding Efforts
Just don't get corrupted! haha But really I think this is great! I wish all the success in the world. I still think its the future. I would for sure by merch(I still want a sticker) too like an above user, and i'm look into credit card info. But ya, If you got a good sales guy to go to some small to midsize companies and give a presentation, how can anyone refuse!!!??? This sounds exciting to me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/004e1856-a28a-487c-8730-bcc608f89524%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Qubes OS Begins Commercialization and Community Funding Efforts
This is a wonderful idea, there are about 20k Qubes users out there, if we al give you guys an equivalent of Windows license price you should be set for a millenium. I'd also love to see some Qubes merchandise available to buy so I can up my swag game while simultaneously contributing funds. Also, you forgot to post this to qubes-announce Andrew. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8c8ea3ed-320c-4f11-a012-ffb537c6c8e0%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Qubes OS Begins Commercialization and Community Funding Efforts
W dniu czwartek, 1 grudnia 2016 00:56:11 UTC+1 użytkownik Andrew David Wong napisał: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Dear Qubes Community, > > Since the initial launch [01] of Qubes OS back in April 2010, work on Qubes > has been funded in several different ways. Originally a pet project, it was > first supported by Invisible Things Lab [02] (ITL) out of the money we earned > on various R&D and consulting contracts. Later, we decided that we should try > to > commercialize it. Our idea, back then, was to commercialize Windows AppVM > support. Unlike the rest of Qubes OS, which is licensed under GPLv2, we > thought > we would offer Windows AppVM support under a proprietary license. Even though > we > made a lot of progress on both the business and technical sides of this > endeavor, it ultimately failed. > > Luckily, we got a helping hand from the Open Technology Fund [03] (OTF), which > has supported [04] the project for the past two years. While not a large > sum of money in itself, it did help us a lot, especially with all the work > necessary to improve Qubes' user interface, documentation, and outreach to new > communities. Indeed, the (estimated) Qubes user base has grown [05] > significantly over that period. Thank you, OTF! > > But Qubes is more than just a nice UI: it's an entirely new, complex system -- > a system that aims to change the game of endpoint security. Consequently, it > requires expertise covering a wide spectrum of topics: from understanding > low-level aspects of hardware and firmware (and how they translate to the > security of a desktop system), to UI design, documentation writing, and > community outreach. Even if we consider only the "security research" aspect of > Qubes, this area alone easily scales beyond the capabilities of a single human > being. > > In order to continue to deliver on its promise of strong desktop security, > Qubes > must retain and expand its core team, and this requires substantial funding. > At > this point, we believe the only realistic way to achieve this is through > commercialization, supplemented by community funding. > > > Commercialization > = > > We're taking a different approach to commercialization this time. Building on > the success of the recent Qubes 3.2 release, which has been praised by users > for > its stability and overall usability, we will begin offering commercial > editions > (licenses) of Qubes OS to corporate customers. We believe that the maturity of > Qubes, combined with its powerful new management stack [06], makes it ripe > for adoption by any corporation with significant security needs. > > Commercial editions of Qubes OS will be customized to meet special corporate > requirements. For example, two features that might be particularly attractive > to > corporate customers are (1) "locking down" dom0 in order to separate the user > and administrator roles and (2) integrating our local management stack with a > corporation's remote management infrastructure. These are both examples of > features that our developers are capable of implementing now, on Qubes 3.2. > > We plan to partner with one to three corporate clients in order to run a pilot > program throughout the first half of 2017. After it has been successfully > completed, we'll then widen our offer to more corporate customers and, > ultimately, to small business customers. Our main constraint is the > scalability > required to cover each additional client. Hence, we plan to focus on larger > customers first. > > Let there be no misunderstanding: Qubes OS will always remain open source. We > anticipate that the majority of our commercialization efforts will involve the > creation of custom Salt configurations, and perhaps writing a few additional > apps and integration code. In the event that any corporate features require > reworking the core Qubes code, that new code will remain open source. > > We considered many other ways of attempting to commercialize Qubes before > arriving at this model. One possibility that some of our users have inquired > about is that we sell dedicated Qubes hardware (i.e. laptops). However, there > are a number of challenges here, both in terms of making the hardware > trustworthy enough to merit our "seal of approval", and from a business and > logistics perspective. For these reasons, we don't plan to pursue this option > in > the immediate future. > > > Community funding > = > > Unfortunately, the financial necessity of shifting our priorities to > commercial > clients will mean that we have less time to work on features that benefit the > wider, security-minded open source community, which has been our focus for the > past seven years. This deeply saddens us. (We all use Qubes on our personal > computers too!) However, the reality is that ITL can't afford to sustain the > open source development of Qubes for much longer. We're running out of time. >
[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Qubes OS Begins Commercialization and Community Funding Efforts
On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 12:56:11 AM UTC+1, Andrew David Wong wrote: > Unfortunately, the financial necessity of shifting our priorities to > commercial > clients will mean that we have less time to work on features that benefit the > wider, security-minded open source community, which has been our focus for the > past seven years. This deeply saddens us. (We all use Qubes on our personal > computers too!) However, the reality is that ITL can't afford to sustain the > open source development of Qubes for much longer. We're running out of time. > > In an attempt to keep the open source development of Qubes going, we've teamed > up with Open Collective [07], which makes it easier to donate to the Qubes > project. Now, in addition to our Bitcoin fund [08], we can also accept > donations via credit card. ITL will not benefit from of any of the money > donated > through Open Collective. Instead, the funds will be paid directly to > individual > developers who have been hired to work on the open source edition of Qubes. I'm excited about this, and wish to support Qubes. My first thoughts are "How can Qubes reach a broader community", and "Can the HOWTO's be made more approachable?". For example, the section 'assigning-devices' on the /doc/, didn't get into how to actually use a mouse with a sys-usb qube, before at the very end. And there, the way it was written gave the impression of giving the answer almost as an afterthought, as if it should have been obvious to everybody. As such, it reads as it was written by somebody "too close to the problem". Somebody being so familiar with the system that outsiders' inability to grasp the "obvious", escapes him. Or her. This is not a unique issue for ITL though, the same problem pops up everywhere when highly technical minded people try to convey something to people who just wants to be *users*! So that's what I'm thinking, maybe it would be good for the "evangelization" of Qubes to make some very simple, brief, and to-the-point videos and howto's? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/bae42017-164b-4bf3-93b4-373a6ea4c00f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Qubes OS Begins Commercialization and Community Funding Efforts
So this is basically support contracts with some custom coding thrown in? The next step, probably scary to some users, is corporate channels. Have you contacted dell and hp yet? either way, im happy for this and hope it works! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b95f0188-bce5-42ed-846c-6a17896f37f8%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Qubes OS Begins Commercialization and Community Funding Efforts
>Commercial editions of Qubes OS will be customized to meet special corporate >requirements. For example, two features that might be particularly attractive >to >corporate customers are (1) "locking down" dom0 in order to separate the user >and administrator roles and (2) integrating our local management stack with a >corporation's remote management infrastructure. These are both examples of >features that our developers are capable of implementing now, on Qubes 3.2. >We plan to partner with one to three corporate clients in order to run a pilot >program throughout the first half of 2017. After it has been successfully >completed, we'll then widen our offer to more corporate customers and, >ultimately, to small business customers. Our main constraint is the scalability >required to cover each additional client. Hence, we plan to focus on larger >customers first. Does this mean that Qubes will somehow become networkable or will it still only be for a single device? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1093ca29-0748-4b31-a0d7-a914c0d7f09b%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.