Re: [qubes-users] Netowork Manager not running (minimal VM)
On Sat, January 6, 2018 1:56 am, Fabrizio Romano Genovese wrote: > Great! I just proposed some changes ^_^ > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-doc/pull/508 Thank you! I think that will help a lot of people. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/72eca7a92b3d43dd1ceb27e9e74b90c3.squirrel%40tt3j2x4k5ycaa5zt.onion. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Netowork Manager not running (minimal VM)
Great! I just proposed some changes ^_^ https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-doc/pull/508 Cheers, Fab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/48939291-4b96-4530-9d11-bae7fe3c66e4%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Netowork Manager not running (minimal VM)
On Fri, January 5, 2018 9:46 pm, Fabrizio Romano Genovese wrote: > I obviously checked that page (it is the first thing I did, actually). > But qubes-core-agent is not mentioned at all there. If you have the time, check out https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/doc-guidelines/. I'm sure they'd be happy to review your changes! I can suggest edits too the same way but coming straight from someone who did it might be most accurate. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/319ee71da811f5d58a375c7606a9acbc.squirrel%40tt3j2x4k5ycaa5zt.onion. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Netowork Manager not running (minimal VM)
I obviously checked that page (it is the first thing I did, actually). But qubes-core-agent is not mentioned at all there. After hours of research, I stumbled into this thread https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2771 >From here, dnf search qubes-core-agent gave me what I needed. I'd suggest to >mention (at least) the existence of the qubes-core-agent-... packages in https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/software-update-vm/ I'd also suggest to mention qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root in https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/vm-sudo/ I am aware that building an entire operating system is a lot of work and there are literally thousands of packages, always changing, to consider. But pages like these should be kept up to date. I wouldn't suggest to edit them (some information that is still useful for previous qubes versions may be lost), but just to index them according to qubes new versions: I'd propose to have a qubes 3.1, a qubes 3.2 and a qubes 4.0 section, for each page. Cheers, Fab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/fa908829-0448-4ba9-b68a-c9a39b839c73%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Netowork Manager not running (minimal VM)
On Fri, Jan 05, 2018 at 08:56:01AM -0800, Fabrizio Romano Genovese wrote: > Yo everyone, > > For future reference, problem solved. The packages > qubes-core-agent-nautilus > qubes-core-agent-networking > qubes-core-agent-network-manager > qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root > qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates > qubes-input-proxy-sender > qubes-usb-proxy > Are not included by default in the minimal template vm. The first one gives > you the cute (send here/move there/open in dispVM) stuff in Nautilus. > The next two are (I suppose) to make networking not a pain in the bum. > The fourth one should do what is done in > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/vm-sudo/ for you. > The fifth one is needed if you are setting up a template you'll use as the > underlying one for the vm that takes care of updating dom0. > The last two are to set up a template for sys-usb. > > All this information was somewhere between here and the github issues page, > but it should really (REALLY) be listed in > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/fedora-minimal/ since nearly always > one will end up needing at least one of the packages listed above. > At the moment setting up a template based on a minimal fedora distribution > looks like a treasure hunt, and I am pretty sure it would save people a lot > of energy and time to have this stuff added to the fedora-minimal reference > page. > > Cheers, > Fab Fab, A good part of this information IS on the fedora-minimal page - use the horizontal scroll on the Customization table to see it. I except passwordless-root as that's a recent change. Perhaps that page need some editing to make the information more readily obvious, although some of it is also on the Packages Recommendations page. unman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20180105195235.zhokzgvjase7aylr%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Netowork Manager not running (minimal VM)
Yo everyone, For future reference, problem solved. The packages qubes-core-agent-nautilus qubes-core-agent-networking qubes-core-agent-network-manager qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates qubes-input-proxy-sender qubes-usb-proxy Are not included by default in the minimal template vm. The first one gives you the cute (send here/move there/open in dispVM) stuff in Nautilus. The next two are (I suppose) to make networking not a pain in the bum. The fourth one should do what is done in https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/vm-sudo/ for you. The fifth one is needed if you are setting up a template you'll use as the underlying one for the vm that takes care of updating dom0. The last two are to set up a template for sys-usb. All this information was somewhere between here and the github issues page, but it should really (REALLY) be listed in https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/fedora-minimal/ since nearly always one will end up needing at least one of the packages listed above. At the moment setting up a template based on a minimal fedora distribution looks like a treasure hunt, and I am pretty sure it would save people a lot of energy and time to have this stuff added to the fedora-minimal reference page. Cheers, Fab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/fff5052c-6739-4179-aeaf-2989fcb8ea07%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Netowork Manager not running (minimal VM)
Exciting news: I didn't know that polkit was a package, so even if I followed ( https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/vm-sudo/ ) in detail, nothing worked. Giving sudo dnf install polkit in the minimal template vm solves the authorization problems, both for sys-usb and sys-net. Now I am able to use the minimal template as the underlying one for sys-usb, but I still have problems with sys-net. sys-net keeps telling me that NetworkManager is not running. If I open up a terminal and give sudo NetworkManager then i can see the networks clicking on the wifi tray icon, but I can't connect. If I click on a network nothing happens (no error displayed, of any kind. Just nothing). Any suggestions? Cheers, Fab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/5e1ebbf7-250c-46ac-b09d-41970235718e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Netowork Manager not running (minimal VM)
yes, I have network-manager listed in the services tabs for sys-net (I suppose that this what the service you were referring to. adding NetworkManager causes the VM startup to fail). Moreover, if I try to use the same template for sys-usb and then try to open some usb stick, I get the message: Not authorized to perform operation (polkit authority not available and caller is not uid0), so again an authorization issue. I suspect this may have something to do with the procedure to make the minimal template passwordless ( https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/vm-sudo/ ) If someone has some insight about this I'd really appreciate it :) Cheers, Fab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/698af639-dd30-40b3-82cc-eb4db5f1f2e4%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Netowork Manager not running (minimal VM)
On Thu, January 4, 2018 11:46 am, Fabrizio Romano Genovese wrote: > I suspect there is some service that needs to be started when the VM > boots that I haven't specified, but I don't know how to proceed. Try adding NetworkManager to the Services tab on your sys-net VM? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/667d7f10ccd344a2802e4351b8c8c53d.squirrel%40tt3j2x4k5ycaa5zt.onion. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.