Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2019-04-16 Thread Matthias Felleisen
Can you speak in general terms at RacketCon? > On Apr 16, 2019, at 3:02 PM, dexterla...@gmail.com wrote: > > I use Racket daily in production at Mercury Filmworks (Disney TVA, Amazon, > Netflix productions among others), and I wish I could talk more about how > Racket helps us where it

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2019-04-16 Thread dexterlagan
I use Racket daily in production at Mercury Filmworks (Disney TVA, Amazon, Netflix productions among others), and I wish I could talk more about how Racket helps us where it counts. If there was to be an evangelist, I'd be a candidate, however 1) I don't consider myself a good Racket

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2019-01-24 Thread 'Paulo Matos' via Racket Users
On 31/12/2018 19:09, Stephen De Gabrielle wrote: > > On a related tack, I've started writing a '7 reasons why your next > project should be in built on Racket' let me know if you would be > interested in providing feedback.  (My inspiration was a similar post > for Python) > How's this

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-30 Thread Tomasz Rola
Thanks for your extensive reply. I realized that I have based my opinions on Racket 6.7 and we are living in 7.1-era, which makes some (but not all) of my words a bit irrelevant (I was subscribed here for all this time, but it just... skipped my attention somehow). I will address few points below.

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-30 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Tomas, thank you for your helpful comments.  I just wanted to comment on a couple side points right now. Tomasz Rola wrote on 12/29/18 1:48 PM: I understand Racket community no longer considers themselves as part of Scheme landscape, but I am unable to say where I get this impression from.

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-29 Thread Philip McGrath
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 1:48 PM Tomasz Rola wrote: > Where does Racket belong? I understand Racket community no longer > considers themselves as part of Scheme landscape, but I am unable to > say where I get this impression from. If I am wrong, then the first > thing for anybody willing to

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-29 Thread Jens Axel Søgaard
Den lør. 29. dec. 2018 kl. 19.48 skrev Tomasz Rola : > and last but not least, > > http://scheme.dk/planet/ > http://planet.lisp.org/ > > Apropos - if you want your blog on Planet Scheme, send me a mail. /Jens Axel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-29 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 09:51:17AM -0500, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > Stephen De Gabrielle wrote on 12/26/18 7:40 AM: > >How did other languages grow their audience? e.g. Ruby-on-Rails, > >Perl, Python, PHP, C++, Rust ? > > All of those had merits, were right place and at right time, and > (except

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 06:18:30AM +0100, Jesse Alama wrote: > > I've had some moderate success in established, non-Racket companies by > working around -- rather than taking on and trying to replace -- the main > language & toolchain. For the PHP shop where I work, I made a DSL called > Riposte

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-28 Thread Thomas F. Burdick
On December 27, 2018 10:47:24 PM GMT+01:00, Stephen De Gabrielle wrote: >I always wanted to ask if the prototype object model is a good idea or >bad idea? The most fun I ever had making GUIs was in Garnet, a library for CMU CL which combined prototype objects and a system where slots we're

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-27 Thread Jesse Alama
On 27 Dec 2018, at 0:04, Neil Van Dyke wrote: Jason Stewart wrote on 12/26/18 5:25 PM: Even for blue-sky projects without any legacy lock-in, I don't fancy our chances with the enterprise/MIS crowd.  They tend to favor straight-jacket languages, and for good reason! Agreed.  (A

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-27 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Stephen De Gabrielle wrote on 12/27/18 4:47 PM: I always wanted to ask if the prototype object model is a good idea or bad idea? I think it's not a bad idea, but I think you probably wouldn't use it for general-purpose OOA, OOD, or OOP right now.  For a long time, OO overwhelmingly embraced

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 02:06:22PM -0800, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: > On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 8:24 AM Brett Gilio wrote: > > > > > > Hendrik Boom writes: > > > > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 09:51:17AM -0500, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > > >> > > >> Python started out as some guy on Usenet with a

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-27 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 8:24 AM Brett Gilio wrote: > > > Hendrik Boom writes: > > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 09:51:17AM -0500, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > >> > >> Python started out as some guy on Usenet with a reusable extension > >> language (Tcl was another, and some RnRS implementations were

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-27 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle
I always wanted to ask if the prototype object model is a good idea or bad idea? The same question applies to Morphic User Interface Construction Environment - good idea or bad idea? Given neither idea seems to have caught on I’m assuming both are dead ends? Kind regards, Stephen > On 27

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-27 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Matthew Butterick wrote on 12/27/18 12:00 PM: According to Brendan Eich, "The good parts of [JavaScript] go back to Scheme and Self" [1] combined with "a lot of stupid". [2] I appreciate Eich's candor and thoughtfulness there. From Self, I think JavaScript initially got the prototype object

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-27 Thread Matthew Butterick
According to Brendan Eich, "The good parts of [JavaScript] go back to Scheme and Self" [1] combined with "a lot of stupid". [2] [1] https://www.jwz.org/blog/2010/10/every-day-i-learn-something-new-and-stupid/#comment-1089

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-27 Thread Brett Gilio
Hendrik Boom writes: > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 09:51:17AM -0500, Neil Van Dyke wrote: >> >> Python started out as some guy on Usenet with a reusable extension >> language (Tcl was another, and some RnRS implementations were another) >> -- all 3 of them had interesting innovations and merits.

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 09:51:17AM -0500, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > > Python started out as some guy on Usenet with a reusable extension > language (Tcl was another, and some RnRS implementations were another) > -- all 3 of them had interesting innovations and merits. (Tcl got > popular because of

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-26 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Jason Stewart wrote on 12/26/18 5:25 PM: Even for blue-sky projects without any legacy lock-in, I don't fancy our chances with the enterprise/MIS crowd.  They tend to favor straight-jacket languages, and for good reason! Agreed.  (A big-corporate exception being R and "startup-like" units,

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-26 Thread Jason Stewart
Even for blue-sky projects without any legacy lock-in, I don't fancy our chances with the enterprise/MIS crowd. They tend to favor straight-jacket languages, and for good reason! For some guy running a two-man startup, something like Racket is a super weapon. For a large organization--with

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-26 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Stephen, thanks for the useful info on adoption in health sector MIS. Stephen De Gabrielle wrote on 12/26/18 4:50 PM: PPS I think the Jupyter enhanced REPL idea is worth pursuing and extending as this might be a way generate interest in the Racket runtime and associated languages. BTW, to be

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-26 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle
Hi Matthew, Neil, > the people who are persuadable. So who are the ‘persuadable’? And where to find them if not on hn? I’m one of the ‘corporate MIS programmers’, but in the public sector(health), and I get to interact with a variety of software vendors as well as and build forms, worklists,

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-26 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Matthew Butterick wrote on 12/26/18 1:50 PM: I agree that success stories are helpful. I'll go one better — I think it would be great to have a section of the main Racket website devoted to these stories that show who uses Racket and how / why (inside & outside academia). This could be done in

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-26 Thread Matthew Butterick
I agree that success stories are helpful. I'll go one better — I think it would be great to have a section of the main Racket website devoted to these stories that show who uses Racket and how / why (inside & outside academia). This could be done in an interview-style format, like Jesse Alama's

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-26 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Stephen De Gabrielle wrote on 12/26/18 7:40 AM: How did other languages grow their audience? e.g. Ruby-on-Rails, Perl, Python, PHP, C++, Rust ? All of those had merits, were right place and at right time, and (except Rust) really spread when there was *a lot* less noise and sheer mass of

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-26 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle
Maybe a high profile social media patron - I’m sure JA is doing wonders for TiddlyWiki: https://twitter.com/joeerl/status/1077842077705293824?s=21 How did other languages grow their audience? e.g. Ruby-on-Rails, Perl, Python, PHP, C++, Rust ? (All fine languages with many strengths - but there

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-17 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 06:11:09AM -0800, Jérôme Martin wrote: > I'm also occasionally writing posts about Racket on my blog. Only one is > public for now, and is a multi-parts tutorial about writing DSLs in Racket. > > I'm trying to summarize and reformulate some of the things I learned by >

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-17 Thread Gustavo Massaccesi
I agree that it would be much better to write good blog posts about Racket. They don't need to be fantastic, they don't need to be better than the documentation, they only has to be interesting. I usually prefer post with one or two big relevant graph (or photos when there is hardware involve), I

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-17 Thread Jérôme Martin
I'm also occasionally writing posts about Racket on my blog. Only one is public for now, and is a multi-parts tutorial about writing DSLs in Racket. I'm trying to summarize and reformulate some of the things I learned by making small languages in Racket. If you already read Beautiful Racket, I

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-16 Thread Alex Harsanyi
On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 12:48:09 AM UTC+8, Peter Schmiedeskamp wrote: > > I’m probably guilty of already being part of this task-force. To add, I > wonder if there’d be value in some longer, blog-form replies to interesting > HackerNews queries. > > For example, someone was extolling

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-15 Thread Peter Schmiedeskamp
I’m probably guilty of already being part of this task-force. To add, I wonder if there’d be value in some longer, blog-form replies to interesting HackerNews queries. For example, someone was extolling the virtues of some new system for building and packaging simple GUI apps for Linux using

Re: [racket-users] hackernews

2018-12-15 Thread Jens Axel Søgaard
Den fre. 14. dec. 2018 kl. 00.53 skrev Neil Van Dyke : > This might be a bad idea, and normally I disapprove of this sort of > thing, but... does anyone want to take on the job of RACKET EVANGELISM > STRIKE FORCE, among a concentration of startup-types and other software > practitioners? > >