[Radiant] Re: crashes with recently released ruby (1.8.6p230)

2008-06-22 Thread James Blanding
Mohit Sindhwani wrote: >> [...] > > James, > > I read on the Ruby mailing list that the new version breaks Rails. > > Cheers, > Mohit. > 6/23/2008 | 1:30 PM. Ah, I see you're right. I had thought it was Radiant-specific because my two sites that don't run Radiant seemed to load fine. I did

Re: [Radiant] crashes with recently released ruby (1.8.6p230)

2008-06-22 Thread Mohit Sindhwani
James Blanding wrote: Hi folks, Has anyone had problems with 1.8.6p230 and Radiant? We have four sites, two on 0.6.6 and two on 0.6.3. They all crashed when they were first accessed after upgrading from an earlier 1.8.6 patch level. Each crash generated one message in the mongrel log, one of:

[Radiant] crashes with recently released ruby (1.8.6p230)

2008-06-22 Thread James Blanding
Hi folks, Has anyone had problems with 1.8.6p230 and Radiant? We have four sites, two on 0.6.6 and two on 0.6.3. They all crashed when they were first accessed after upgrading from an earlier 1.8.6 patch level. Each crash generated one message in the mongrel log, one of: *** glibc detected ***

Re: [Radiant] Re: Re: Re: Re: Adminstrator and Developer role clarificatio

2008-06-22 Thread Chris Parrish
Jonathan McCoy wrote: Chris Parrish wrote: Interestingly, in one of your later posts, you define "Developer" and "Designer" separately where "Developer" was working outside of the Radiant UI (including RoR and DB tasks). And where Developer got into (x)html or css, the role overlapped with y

Re: [Radiant] Two Slightly related Questions

2008-06-22 Thread Mohit Sindhwani
John W. Long wrote: On Jun 22, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Mohit Sindhwani wrote: 1. How can I add pictures to the wiki? I want to add screenshots to the Summer Reboot documentation. You will need to post the screenshots on another Web site to do this. A tool like Flickr or Skitch could be used for th

[Radiant] Re: Re: Re: Re: Adminstrator and Developer role clarificatio

2008-06-22 Thread Jonathan McCoy
Chris Parrish wrote: > Interestingly, in one of your later posts, you define "Developer" and > "Designer" separately where "Developer" was working outside of the > Radiant UI (including RoR and DB tasks). And where Developer got into > (x)html or css, the role overlapped with your definition of "D

Re: [Radiant] Re: Re: Re: Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Chris Parrish
Sean Cribbs wrote: I feel we should let the UI changes drive that kind of change. I originally posted to record my thoughts and possibly help others understand what Radiant was "thinking" with it's roles. I wholeheartedly agree with you here Sean. I see much of this already coming. -Chr

Re: [Radiant] Re: Re: Re: Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Sean Cribbs
Chris Parrish wrote: Um, this thread's starting to deteriorate a bit. @Alex - As you mentioned, I'm starting to like the component-ized approach as it makes it possible for extension builders to integrate new roles without breaking the UI (which oddly enough uses checkboxes = component mental

Re: [Radiant] Re: Re: Re: Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Anton Aylward
Chris Parrish said the following on 22/06/08 06:22 PM: > > @ Anton - My choice of wording certainly is certainly objective but I > chose it with the goal of conveying information to a lay user or small > business owner to help them understand what the roles offer and what > their boundaries are

Re: [Radiant] Re: Re: Re: Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Chris Parrish
Um, this thread's starting to deteriorate a bit. @Alex - As you mentioned, I'm starting to like the component-ized approach as it makes it possible for extension builders to integrate new roles without breaking the UI (which oddly enough uses checkboxes = component mentality). @ Anton - My c

Re: [Radiant] Two Slightly related Questions

2008-06-22 Thread John W. Long
On Jun 22, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Mohit Sindhwani wrote: 1. How can I add pictures to the wiki? I want to add screenshots to the Summer Reboot documentation. You will need to post the screenshots on another Web site to do this. A tool like Flickr or Skitch could be used for this. 2. Which is t

Re: [Radiant] Re: Re: Re: Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Anton Aylward
Jonathan McCoy said the following on 22/06/08 03:12 PM: > Anton Aylward wrote: >> blah > > Whatever. Nice argument. Sadly it fell apart shortly after "For most > businesses...". The reality is quite different, and I can assure you > that the ability to write copy, doesn't provide you with the co

[Radiant] Re: Re: Re: Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Jonathan McCoy
Anton Aylward wrote: > blah Whatever. Nice argument. Sadly it fell apart shortly after "For most businesses...". The reality is quite different, and I can assure you that the ability to write copy, doesn't provide you with the competence to make design or technical decisions. While you're theor

Re: [Radiant] Re: Re: Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Anton Aylward
Jonathan McCoy said the following on 22/06/08 02:38 PM: > Anton Aylward wrote: >> The whole point is to have content. >> Without content a web site is just an academic exercise in programming. > > That theory is great, when one person designs, builds and manages a > site. > > But as soon as you

[Radiant] Re: Re: Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Jonathan McCoy
Anton Aylward wrote: > The whole point is to have content. > Without content a web site is just an academic exercise in programming. That theory is great, when one person designs, builds and manages a site. But as soon as you have more than one person involved in the management of a site, as wi

Re: [Radiant] More wiki-ish page creation?

2008-06-22 Thread Christof Glaser
Jay, Am 22.06.2008 um 18:19 schrieb Jay Levitt: I don't know exactly what I want, so maybe someone can suggest a better workflow and/or some extensions. I'm throwing together a brochureware site - just the initial text, no real layout yet - and I keep finding myself doing things like this:

Re: [Radiant] Re: Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Anton Aylward
Jonathan McCoy said the following on 22/06/08 12:59 PM: > Anton Aylward wrote: >> Chris Parrish said the following on 21/06/08 11:51 PM: >> >> A 'developer' is someone who develops content. >> This is obvious to anyone except a programmer. > > Huh?? > > I think it's fairly useful to define the di

[Radiant] Re: Re: Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Jonathan McCoy
Mohit Sindhwani wrote: > Jonathan McCoy wrote: >> I think it's fairly useful to define the difference between a Content >> If you're designing a site to be managed by an in-house team, you'll >> need to segregate the design (layouts and snippets) from the >> copywriters. Likewise, it's a fair id

Re: [Radiant] Re: Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Mohit Sindhwani
Jonathan McCoy wrote: Anton Aylward wrote: Chris Parrish said the following on 21/06/08 11:51 PM: A 'developer' is someone who develops content. This is obvious to anyone except a programmer. Huh?? I think it's fairly useful to define the difference between a Content Manager, Design

[Radiant] Re: Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Jonathan McCoy
Anton Aylward wrote: > Chris Parrish said the following on 21/06/08 11:51 PM: > > A 'developer' is someone who develops content. > This is obvious to anyone except a programmer. Huh?? I think it's fairly useful to define the difference between a Content Manager, Designer and Developer - because

[Radiant] Re: Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Jonathan McCoy
Hi, I raised the role issue in response to a question regarding SCM'ing templates a week or so back... http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/152887 Anyway, to repost a few relevant points. My first thought was to keep the the 3-tier (renaming Developer for Designer) - but juggling some of the pri

Re: [Radiant] Reserve space for the admin flash field?

2008-06-22 Thread Mohit Sindhwani
Jay Levitt wrote: It's very disconcerting to have the Pages list jump up as the "Your page has been saved" fades out; it seems to miss the point of having a nice fade-out in the first place. I'd like to reserve space for that flash, and just leave it blank when it's empty. Is this an easy CS

Re: [Radiant] Two Slightly related Questions

2008-06-22 Thread Mohit Sindhwani
Sean Cribbs wrote: 1. You'll need to upload them somewhere else and then link them in manually. It's Textile, though, so you'll only have to do !http://mysite.com/path/to/my/picture.jpg! 2. I'll defer to Andrew on this, but I believe it is the latter. Sean Thanks Sean, As for #1, I though

Re: [Radiant] [ANN] Summer Reboot Documentation

2008-06-22 Thread Mohit Sindhwani
Sean Cribbs wrote: Hate to burst your bubble, but I imagine we'll have 1 or 2 releases within the next 10 weeks. I'll be getting back up to speed after my move to NC, which is in ten days. If there's anyone in RDU-CH area who wants to meetup and hack on Radiant on Fridays, be sure to ping me

Re: [Radiant] Reserve space for the admin flash field?

2008-06-22 Thread Sean Cribbs
Jay, Yes, I've noticed that too. This should be a simple CSS fix, but we should try it out in the prototype first. I would suggest an absolute positioning, perhaps with a fixed width (even if a percentage). On another project I'm working on that has a very similar admin UI to Radiant's, I

Re: [Radiant] Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Sean Cribbs
If you look at the mockups repo and in the 'blade' directory, you'll see there is a 'Design' tab in the interface. I imagine that role will be changing names as we implement that UI. Sean Steven Southard wrote: On Jun 22, 2008, at 4:45 AM, Anton Aylward wrote: Chris Parrish said the follo

[Radiant] Reserve space for the admin flash field?

2008-06-22 Thread Jay Levitt
It's very disconcerting to have the Pages list jump up as the "Your page has been saved" fades out; it seems to miss the point of having a nice fade-out in the first place. I'd like to reserve space for that flash, and just leave it blank when it's empty. Is this an easy CSS fix? I haven't d

Re: [Radiant] Two Slightly related Questions

2008-06-22 Thread Sean Cribbs
1. You'll need to upload them somewhere else and then link them in manually. It's Textile, though, so you'll only have to do !http://mysite.com/path/to/my/picture.jpg! 2. I'll defer to Andrew on this, but I believe it is the latter. Sean Mohit Sindhwani wrote: Hi, I have 2 simple questions

Re: [Radiant] [ANN] Summer Reboot Documentation

2008-06-22 Thread Sean Cribbs
Hate to burst your bubble, but I imagine we'll have 1 or 2 releases within the next 10 weeks. I'll be getting back up to speed after my move to NC, which is in ten days. If there's anyone in RDU-CH area who wants to meetup and hack on Radiant on Fridays, be sure to ping me in the second week

[Radiant] More wiki-ish page creation?

2008-06-22 Thread Jay Levitt
I don't know exactly what I want, so maybe someone can suggest a better workflow and/or some extensions. I'm throwing together a brochureware site - just the initial text, no real layout yet - and I keep finding myself doing things like this: 1. In "Pages" tab, create "About Us" page 2. Edit

Re: [Radiant] Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Steven Southard
On Jun 22, 2008, at 4:45 AM, Anton Aylward wrote: Chris Parrish said the following on 21/06/08 11:51 PM: John, have you ever considered changing the name "developer" to "designer"? I think it'd be more clear. Why? A 'developer' is someone who develops content. This is obvious to anyone e

[Radiant] Two Slightly related Questions

2008-06-22 Thread Mohit Sindhwani
Hi, I have 2 simple questions that are slightly unrelated. 1. How can I add pictures to the wiki? I want to add screenshots to the Summer Reboot documentation. 2. Which is the correct list address? Should I be using radiant@radiantcms.org or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Mohit. 6/22/2008 | 8:00

Re: [Radiant] Re: Re: Re: Radiant documentation - summer reboot

2008-06-22 Thread Mohit Sindhwani
David Piehler wrote: Mohit Sindhwani wrote: I would like to initially treat this as a separate 'handbook' called 'Documentation - Summer Reboot' rather than into the main handbook. Hopefully, it will be easy to move pages around later? I prefer this idea, as long as renaming the main

Re: [Radiant] Adminstrator and Developer role clarification

2008-06-22 Thread Anton Aylward
Chris Parrish said the following on 21/06/08 11:51 PM: > John, have you ever considered changing the name "developer" to > "designer"? I think it'd be more clear. Why? A 'developer' is someone who develops content. This is obvious to anyone except a programmer. -- In order to dial out, it i

Re: [Radiant] [ANN] Summer Reboot Documentation

2008-06-22 Thread Mohit Sindhwani
Casper Fabricius wrote: Well done, Mohit. I've signed up for a few articles. What's the time horizon on this project - should we aim at having all articles ready by the end August? /Casper That would be great! Now that Radiant 0.6.7 is out, I hope that the basic things won't change much for

Re: [Radiant] [ANN] Summer Reboot Documentation

2008-06-22 Thread Casper Fabricius
Well done, Mohit. I've signed up for a few articles. What's the time horizon on this project - should we aim at having all articles ready by the end August? /Casper On 22/06/2008, at 10:17, Mohit Sindhwani wrote: Hi Guys We have been in discussion about starting up another effort to write

[Radiant] [ANN] Summer Reboot Documentation

2008-06-22 Thread Mohit Sindhwani
Hi Guys We have been in discussion about starting up another effort to write up Radiant documentation. I had earlier posted out something like a Table of Contents that we could use as a preliminary outline. I've created this on the wiki as 'Summer Reboot' (in honour of the thread that start

[Radiant] Settings Extension for easy access to configuration

2008-06-22 Thread Alex Wayne
I whipped up a quick extension today that some might find useful. I searched around a little and didn't come with any solutions that I was happy with, form a functional or aesthetic standpoint. It adds a "Settings" tab that provides a nice looking interface to configuration settings. You can eas