Re: [RBW] Bosco bars - different flares?

2012-04-02 Thread newenglandbike
I'm pretty sure that's a trick of the camera lens (wide angle), and that those are two photos of the same bar. Matt On Sunday, April 1, 2012 7:04:30 PM UTC-4, BSWP wrote: I saw the new Bosco bars on the RBW site... the pictures give the impression that some of the bars have parallel

Re: [RBW] My SimpleOne (a set on Flickr)

2012-04-02 Thread David Spranger
I also had my frame for sometime (since beginning of year) and was collecting parts for it over that time. It finally came together two weeks ago. I have really enjoyed seeing all the variations of SimpleOnes that the group has put together. I took a lot of influence from those pictures to put

[RBW] Re: FS. parts for sale

2012-04-02 Thread islaysteve
Norman, I'd like the Ultegra long cage der. I assume it's compatible with STI 8-speed. Do you know what max cog size it will handle? Please relpy to alkiremx5 at verizon dot net with your paypal address. Not sure if the reply to author is working for me, sorry to post here. Thanks, Steve

[RBW] Re: FS. parts for sale

2012-04-02 Thread islaysteve
Apparently this one will not allow the rear cog size I need, so I will not be purchasing. Again, sorry for the confusion. Steve On Sunday, April 1, 2012 2:05:02 AM UTC-4, Norman Bone wrote: Clearing out the stash. Prices plus actual shipping. Paypal or check is fine.

[RBW] Re: FS: Trek 1984 620 Frame and Fork, rack and cages (24 frame)

2012-04-02 Thread kps
The lovely 24 Trek 620 frame and fork has found a new home. Thanks to all who inquired. Appreciate it! kps -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

RE: [RBW] My new Simpleone!

2012-04-02 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Beautiful. Now if I can just finish mine... From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John L Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 8:22 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] My new Simpleone! I

[RBW] Re: My new Simpleone!

2012-04-02 Thread David Spranger
Beautiful bicycle. I love my SimpleOne. Has become my favorite bike. On Saturday, March 31, 2012 8:22:06 AM UTC-4, John L wrote: I had no intention of buying a new bike. Let me say that for starters. But as part of my trip to the Bay Area last month I made it over to Walnut Creek and

[RBW] Re: My SimpleOne (a set on Flickr)

2012-04-02 Thread Peter Pesce
Very nice! I was never a fan of the cream tires but with this frame color they look perfect. Some unique shots there from angles you don't often see (under-the-stem?!) All this Simple-One-Love makes you wonder why the bike sold so poorly that Riv discontinued it. Was it really just the price?

[RBW] Re: My SimpleOne (a set on Flickr)

2012-04-02 Thread David Spranger
Thanks! The unique shots are the perspective of my creative spouse. You know, I never thought I would be interested in cream tires either, but I really like them with the dark green frame and the cream details of the paint. I don't know why they discontinued it, but I am happy I bought it

[RBW] Re: FS: Bridgestone X0-3 55cm

2012-04-02 Thread jinxed
Last bump before it goes to the bay. Trying to keep it in the family, so I'll pick up the shipping charges in the US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: My Riv story and my Surly Pacer 650b conversion

2012-04-02 Thread Mike
On Apr 1, 6:02 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I've said before that the Pacers should be built around full 57mm brake reach so they could fit larger tires. Good bikes other than that detail! BTW, the MTBR link doesn't show the bike unless you're signed in. Hey David, they

Re: [RBW] Bosco bars - different flares?

2012-04-02 Thread John L
I think that's just keystone effect. You can see it too in pictures of the moustache and Mark's bars (to a varying degree). On Sunday, April 1, 2012 7:04:30 PM UTC-4, BSWP wrote: I saw the new Bosco bars on the RBW site... the pictures give the impression that some of the bars have parallel

[RBW] Project Help my Build my Atlantis

2012-04-02 Thread dr...@charter.net
In a few days I should be getting my Atlantis frame back newly painted from California. I want to rebuild it from the bottom up, as the components, chainrings etc, were completely worn out. However I am much better at long distance cycling than I am at putting a bike together. In fact, I know

[RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-02 Thread iamkeith
Yer killin' me. Your post is exactly what I didn't want to ever read. A single speed bike makes absolutely no sense for me, living in the mountains and given the kind of on-road riding that I do. But as much as I love my decked-out Rambouillet, I thought I might enjoy riding something lighter

[RBW] Headset and bottom bracket life expectancy

2012-04-02 Thread shawn
How many miles can one expect to get out of a typical headset and bottom bracket? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send

Re: [RBW] Re: My Riv story and my Surly Pacer 650b conversion

2012-04-02 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
For my build, there is tons of clearance all around in the rear, but in the front, there is clearance above the tire, but not much on the right and left sides of the tire. If they widen the fork a little bit to allow for true 32s, then that should help the clearance in a 650b conversion. For a

[RBW] Re: Headset and bottom bracket life expectancy

2012-04-02 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Hi Shawn - That's a fairly broad question with a good number of variables: Fenders or Open-Wheel?, Fair-Weather or Everyday? Delayed Maintenance or Son-of-a-mechanic obsessive? Particularly with respect to the headset, where certain companies have focused upon making the best and managed to

[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis

2012-04-02 Thread dougP
...but I this time I want it rebuilt a bit lighter with upgraded technology. You will get plenty of input from this group but yes it would be useful to know your current baseline, and intended use of the bike. You mention long distance touring of course that's the Atlantis forte, but there are

[RBW] WTB: 26 X 2.15 Big Apples

2012-04-02 Thread colin p. cummings
If you've got em and don't want em, I want em and don't got em. Email off list. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Camping Pictures now of Flickr!

2012-04-02 Thread Zack
The rene's hunqa picture is awesome (they all are, but this one stands out). sweet. also loved the random smelting photo. what's up with that? On Monday, April 2, 2012 12:44:15 AM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote: Pictures from Rivendell prove that they exist and are awesome.

[RBW] Re: Bosco bars - different flares?

2012-04-02 Thread grant
They all flare a little---if 90 deg reps zero flare (parallel), then the bars are about 82 deg. We've yet to get the 55's in, but the plan was to keep the flare and shrink the flat part nexto the stem (by 1.5cm per side). That'll still leave handroom, especially for the diminutive, tiny-fingered,

Re: [RBW] Re: My Riv story and my Surly Pacer 650b conversion

2012-04-02 Thread cyclotourist
I s have a future in product design!!! That's really a smart move on Surly's part, as the the bike is so much more versatile now. On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 1, 6:02 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I've said before that the Pacers

Re: [RBW] Re: My Riv story and my Surly Pacer 650b conversion

2012-04-02 Thread cyclotourist
Interesting ad copy... sounds inspired from somewhere. Hmmm, where have I heard things like this before...??? We decided to offer it as a complete bike to make it easier for folks to try one. It's laterally stiff but vertically compliant, which is just a fancy way of saying it's comfy but

Re: [RBW] Re: My Riv story and my Surly Pacer 650b conversion

2012-04-02 Thread James Warren
This bike is awesome. This is the bike that Specialized failed to make a couple of years ago when they re-released the steel Allez. They blew that one with super-high racing gearing and downtube shifters, a combo that few potential customers would be interested in. On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:05

[RBW] Re: Headset and bottom bracket life expectancy

2012-04-02 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I recently sold my 1983 Stumpjumper, which I rode quite a bit the last five years. The previous owner didn't ride it as much, but he did regular maintenance on the bearings. The headset was original to the bike and still felt smooth. I've noticed that some people always have crummy headsets,

[RBW] Re: My Riv story and my Surly Pacer 650b conversion

2012-04-02 Thread rcnute
If the idea of a carbon fork doesn't give you the howling skitters you might try a Bontrager Satellite fork. http://www.bikeman.com/bikeman-blogs/650blog/1897-surly-pacer-650b I copied Ed Braley's 650b Pacer conversion and the fork offers more room on the sides.

[RBW] Re: Headset and bottom bracket life expectancy

2012-04-02 Thread Brewster Fong
On Monday, April 2, 2012 11:52:50 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I recently sold my 1983 Stumpjumper, which I rode quite a bit the last five years. The previous owner didn't ride it as much, but he did regular maintenance on the bearings. The headset was original to the

Re: [RBW] Bosco bars - different flares?

2012-04-02 Thread BSWP
Makes sense, the point about wide-angle lens. If there's some moderate flare, as Grant noted, then the front view would tend to minimize that flare (might look more parallel) and the rear view would exaggerate that flare. Physics is phun! - Andrew, Berkeley On Monday, April 2, 2012 1:06:37 AM

[RBW] Re: SF Randonneurs Populaire this Saturday

2012-04-02 Thread Manuel Acosta
Cycling is one of the only sports that I know where you don't get gratification of what you've done until you're finished. So true in the sport of Randonneuring. If I had to sum up the Last weekend's even in one word it was wet. So wet in fact that out of the 70ish people that registered for

Re: [RBW] Re: My Riv story and my Surly Pacer 650b conversion

2012-04-02 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:55 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: If the idea of a carbon fork doesn't give you the howling skitters you might try a Bontrager Satellite fork. http://www.bikeman.com/bikeman-blogs/650blog/1897-surly-pacer-650b  I copied Ed Braley's 650b Pacer conversion and the

[RBW] Re: Atlantis seat stay angle?

2012-04-02 Thread Garth
72 degrees Doug ! On Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:14:30 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote: Contemplating having a custom rear rack made, one of the dimensions that would be useful is the angle of the seat stay. I have a 58 cm Atlantis. Does anyone know what this angle is? Or the best way to

[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis

2012-04-02 Thread Minh
wow, this is an open end question. Do you have a starting point? are you looking for a modern group or something more rivendell inspired? have you looked at the rivendell component groups on their website? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-02 Thread Minh
Keith, I think the reason the SO was retired is that it';s a hard bike to justify on paper. If you can only have 1 bike it doesn't feel versatile enough, if you already have a bike it's hard to see the need. But let me tell you, once you get it, it's a great bike. It's my favorite bike of

[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis

2012-04-02 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Go for an all-black SRAM X9 kit (with TT500 bar-ends) and White Industries MI5 hubs. It will be unique in the Riv world, and the stuff is beautiful in function. On Sunday, April 1, 2012 7:53:19 PM UTC-5, dr...@charter.net wrote: In a few days I should be getting my Atlantis frame back newly

[RBW] XS Saddle Sack for Sale-Olive Green--Like New

2012-04-02 Thread Peter M
Ok, just bought this about a month ago but recently acquired a Nitto Lugged seatpost so between the seatpost and the sprung saddle this just doesnt work anymore. I hate to see it go and have only used it a handful of times so it is in like new condition. Was looking for $55 shipped, paypal

[RBW] Re: Headset and bottom bracket life expectancy

2012-04-02 Thread Allan in Portland
My favorite head set story, and one I think shows them to be essentially jewelry for most normal geometry bikes, is the one from my former commuter. It was 20 y.o. Miyata I bought from the original owner. He didn't do anything for maintenance because he literally never road it. It still had

Re: [RBW] Headset and bottom bracket life expectancy

2012-04-02 Thread Tim McNamara
On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:30 AM, shawn wrote: How many miles can one expect to get out of a typical headset and bottom bracket? Well, This varies by headset. The headset in my 1996 All-Rounder is the original Stronglight (A-6, I think). I've repacked it two or three times in the past 16 years.

[RBW] Re: SF Randonneurs Populaire this Saturday

2012-04-02 Thread William
The trail through SPTPark was freaking awesome. That was the highlight for sure, for me, since that was my first 100k on that bike, and that type of trail was exactly why I retired my racing bike(s) to buy that one. I'm kind of bummed that the next time I rock that trail it probably wont be

[RBW] Re: FS: Bridgestone X0-3 55cm

2012-04-02 Thread jinxed
Getting lots of confusion and questions on size. Bridgestone sized this bike as a 52 in the catalog. That measurement corresponds to the seat tube. The top tube however *is indeed* 55cm center to center. The standover height with the 1.75 tires is 77cm = 30.3. I will ship the bike with a

[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis

2012-04-02 Thread pb
On Apr 2, 2:23 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Go for an all-black SRAM X9 kit (with TT500 bar-ends) and White Industries MI5 hubs. It will be unique in the Riv world, and the stuff is beautiful in function. Wow. Bold idea. I have X-9 on my Lynskey mtn bike -- I

[RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-02 Thread ted
At the risk of stating the obvious, they are probably discontinued because they don't sell. Despite a substantial time lag between the last of the Quickbeams and the introduction of the SimpleOne it seems they just weren't selling. Why else would they have been cleared out at a steep discount.

[RBW] Re: My Riv story and my Surly Pacer 650b conversion

2012-04-02 Thread rcnute
Check out the Rawland owners' group on Google and the Rawland website-- low trail forks coming out soon at a nice price. Ryan On Apr 2, 12:58 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:55 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: If the idea of a carbon fork doesn't give you

[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis

2012-04-02 Thread William
The thing I can't get past with tubeless is the fact that I'm a tire swapper. Every bike of mine gets different tires at least 4 times per year. I think that tubeless would force me to give that up. If I had an Atlantis (and I expect to have one someday), I could easily envision running

[RBW] Re: AHH 56, 57 compare contrast?

2012-04-02 Thread ted
Thanks for the feedback guys. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[RBW] Bike Fit - Back Pain - RivRiders Handlebar Survey

2012-04-02 Thread Bruce Curry
Tis the season to be putting on more miles and I am experiencing more pronounced lower back pain. For some reason climbing makes it even worse. I feel like my bars are too far forward for me but don't wan't to launch on a stem buying spree without some scientific study and addl input from group

Re: [RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis

2012-04-02 Thread cyclotourist
You have to add latex every three months or so, so could swap tires at the time. On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:04 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The thing I can't get past with tubeless is the fact that I'm a tire swapper. Every bike of mine gets different tires at least 4 times per year.

[RBW] Re: Headset and bottom bracket life expectancy

2012-04-02 Thread Bill M.
1995 Riv Road - still on original headset. 1983 Miyata 1000 - still on original headset. Can't think of when I have ever worn out a bottom bracket. I swap parts around too often for any one to get too much wear. The Miyata has a Nashbar sealed bearing BB from the 80's or so. Still smooth.

Re: [RBW] Headset and bottom bracket life expectancy

2012-04-02 Thread James Valiensi
I've been using Chris King headsets since 1992. Never had one wear out or go bad. I used them on road bikes, mountain bikes, and city bikes. They last and are reliable. Grant used to sell them. James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA On Apr 2, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Bill M. wrote: 1995 Riv Road -

[RBW] Re: Headset and bottom bracket life expectancy

2012-04-02 Thread Mojo
Headsets wear out? Not in my experience riding 'serious' bikes since 1972. I did ruin (death by pitting) a Campy Record by tightening a half turn too tight. And I change the grease in my headsets every decade or so. And I have lived in arid-semiarid climates most of my life. Headsets sit there

[RBW] RE: Project help build my Atlantis

2012-04-02 Thread dr...@charter.net
OK thanks for all that replied. I have a fast day bike, Atlantis needs to be set up for touring, and getting around town. I can afford good components, but I am not an ostentatious person. Here is what I had previously. Nine speed Tiagra Crank 52-42-30 Back Cassette 14-25 UN 53 Bottom Bracket.

[RBW] RE: Project help build my Atlantis

2012-04-02 Thread dr...@charter.net
OK thanks for all that replied. I have a fast day bike, Atlantis needs to be set up for touring, and getting around town. I can afford good components, but I am not an ostentatious person. Here is what I had previously. Nine speed Tiagra Crank 52-42-30 Back Cassette 14-25 UN 53 Bottom Bracket.

[RBW] Re: Project help build my Atlantis

2012-04-02 Thread dr...@charter.net
Oh and by the way, I do like black on the bike for components or silver. Not white- have never seen this. I have 26 wheels. I think it is a 56 cm frame- the largest that takes 26 inch wheels. I am not worried about wheels, and hubs for now. I would just like to get gears, derailers, and brakes

[RBW] Re: Bike Fit - Back Pain - RivRiders Handlebar Survey

2012-04-02 Thread Esteban
Knee-bar quotient seems spurious to me. Its hard for me to imagine just how long your cockpit is! If those are noodles, I wonder if the long stem influences handling. OK. This is an easy, if sacrilegious test. Lower the bars so that they're even with the saddle. Then ride, climb, and see

[RBW] AHH For Sale

2012-04-02 Thread rlc5925
Bike was built and deliver this past Sept. and has about 50 miles on it. AHH 57 cm frame BUILD: 700 36h Lx/dyad wheels; tan cork bar tape on Nitto 29mm moustache bars; Tech std 8cm 26.0 stem; Shimano Tigra break levers; Bar end silver shifters; Brooks B-68 saddle; sugino XD2 170 46/36/24 crank; 8

[RBW] Re: XS Saddle Sack for Sale-Olive Green--Like New

2012-04-02 Thread gabe mcgann
Just because I don't know for sure, but is there any chance that you sack could work as a handlebar bag on a nitto mustache bar? Thanks! g On Monday, April 2, 2012 5:53:48 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Ok, just bought this about a month ago but recently acquired a Nitto Lugged seatpost so

[RBW] Re: Headset and bottom bracket life expectancy

2012-04-02 Thread shawn
Jim, Thanks for the reply. The reason I asked was because a friend of mine bought a Trek carbon fiber road bike last year and after 2200 miles had to replace the headset, bottom bracket and rear cassette. My friend acted like this was normal, but I wasn't sure since my Atlantis has over 4,000

[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis

2012-04-02 Thread dr...@charter.net
I used the Atlantis gallery to help pic colors. I know that some of those folks list their components also..will have to go back and look. I know there is one guy that has toured around the world on a green Atlantis and I am sure that he knows a lot about setting up a bike. On Apr 2, 11:13 am,

[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis

2012-04-02 Thread dr...@charter.net
I priced the SRAm components- maybe if I buy a set I could afford it. Are you talking about the trigger shifters or twister shifters? Also, I could not figure out which crankcase went with the x9- is there one specifically that you would recommend? On Apr 2, 4:23 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

Re: [RBW] Re: XS Saddle Sack for Sale-Olive Green--Like New

2012-04-02 Thread Peter Morgano
Riv website says or used to say it could be used as a handlebar bag somewhere I believe. I just mocked it up on my albatross bars and it worked well. I would have rocked that but i have the platrack/slickersack combo so it would be bag overload up there. I am going to just rock a tool roll in my

[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis

2012-04-02 Thread Leslie
On Monday, April 2, 2012 8:04:34 PM UTC-4, William wrote: The thing I can#39;t get past with tubeless is the fact that I#39;m a tire swapper.  Every bike of mine gets different tires at least 4 times per year.   I think that tubeless would force me to give that up.  If I had an Atlantis (and

[RBW] Re: Bike Fit - Back Pain - RivRiders Handlebar Survey

2012-04-02 Thread Zack
Have you considered using albatross bars? I am 6'3 with a really long torso, and was never comfortable on a bike until my 64 Sam with albas. I have ridden the 64 with noodles too, but albas are really great. Just a thought. I have no idea about the knee/bar height thing. On Monday, April

[RBW] Re: Bike Fit - Back Pain - RivRiders Handlebar Survey

2012-04-02 Thread Zack
Forgot to add I also suffered from bad back and shoulder pain, since switching to albas my legs get tired first (which is the way it should be on a bike!) On Monday, April 2, 2012 8:05:14 PM UTC-4, Bruce Curry wrote: Tis the season to be putting on more miles and I am experiencing more

[RBW] Re: Bike Fit - Back Pain - RivRiders Handlebar Survey

2012-04-02 Thread William
Esteban is secretly one of those slam your stem dudes. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lXW2emiVDc4J. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis

2012-04-02 Thread dr...@charter.net
Where are the Rivendell components groups? I see on their website BUILD KITS but not for the Atlantis bike. On Apr 2, 4:14 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: wow, this is an open end question.  Do you have a starting point? are you looking for a modern group or something more rivendell

[RBW] Re: Bike Fit - Back Pain - RivRiders Handlebar Survey

2012-04-02 Thread Michael Hechmer
Bruce, you may be over thinking this problem, and over focused on bike fit. What are you doing for your back post ride? I find 3-4 sessions of yoga every week absolutely necessary while riding regularly. Perhaps a consultation with a good chiropractor or physical therapist could help.

[RBW] Re: Headset and bottom bracket life expectancy

2012-04-02 Thread Peter Pesce
Oh! You didn't say you were (or might be) talking about those new fangled external BBs and headsets. I'm assuming that's what's on your friends carbon road bike. I've heard tell of those going bad in 500 rainy miles. I have an external BB (no idea which flavor) with only a couple hundred dry

[RBW] Re: Bike Fit - Back Pain - RivRiders Handlebar Survey

2012-04-02 Thread Aaron Thomas
Stem-slamming jokes aside, Esteban's test is worth trying. I used to ride with my bars at or above saddle height, but after some experimentation found that bars lower than saddle height provided a much more comfortable arrangement. Note, however, that I coupled this shift in bar height with a

Re: [RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis

2012-04-02 Thread Peter Morgano
Rivendell does not have component groups like another of bike companies, it's sort of mix and match which gives you lots of options but can also lead to buying more than you need to see what works. The build kits are tailored for the more affordable bikes, sam, betty, etc. I guess the thought

[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis

2012-04-02 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I think the X9 crank is branded Truvativ, which is part of the same parts company as SRAM. The X7 crank would be fine too, but the X9 comes in more versions and has more subtle logos. In fact, you can save quite a bit with the X5 or X7 kit or with select X5 and X7 parts. It all works together

[RBW] Re: Bike Fit - Back Pain - RivRiders Handlebar Survey

2012-04-02 Thread Esteban
Yea - Slam it, and get some tri bars while your at it!! ;) Yea, Aaron encouraged me. Its not for all, but with that old-timey quill stem, its an easy test. For touring, I like the bars even, for harder efforts, I like them lower. Higher led to shoulder pain. But its different for

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Fit - Back Pain - RivRiders Handlebar Survey

2012-04-02 Thread James Warren
I too found some success with bars lower than saddle. For me it is for keeping proper upper back posture. Also, definitely don't just look at bike fit. The advice about other solutions and maintenance (yoga, chiropractic, etc.) is good advice. In my experience, bike fit can help you see where

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Fit - Back Pain - RivRiders Handlebar Survey

2012-04-02 Thread James Warren
It is different for everybody, but I will echo that higher also causes me shoulder pain. The lesson here is that you've got to find out what works for you, because there are plenty of cases where higher is more comfortable simply can't be assumed. I will point out that the low position that

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Fit - Back Pain - RivRiders Handlebar Survey

2012-04-02 Thread Tim McNamara
That wayback seatpost makes me wonder. If the saddle is too far back that might be the cause of your troubles. I think that before yoga or a chiropractor, you need a bike fitting by someone who really knows what they are doing. In lieu of that, be incremental and scientific in adjusting