Still looking for one of these. Missed out on a used one that came up
on here recently.
Also looking to try out some Alba bars.
If you have either or both of these for sale, drop me a line! Thanks
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On Feb 6, 3:43 pm, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm looking
First let me correct myself by saying ROADEO. Thanks guys for all the
input. Looks like I should get on this soon since it appears as though
Rivendell probably doesn't have any Roadeos laying around. Deposit
time! Now I have to rack my brain with what size I should get.
On Apr 4, 8:12 pm, Patrick
My Sam is a 52 due to the sloped top tube/geometry but with most bikes
I ride a 54. At least that's what my cross check is.
On Apr 4, 10:51 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:
What size are you in? If it's 59cm or over, I recall Grant saying that the
Roadeo has the same tubing as the
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjyQ5Piu
I have always liked having the larger platform of the Platrack on my AHH,
but disliked the long struts that stretch down to the fender mounts by the
axle. I had removed the rack for the rando season a few months back, but
have wanted to put it back on a few times. I
Thanks for the info, William. I see that those are going for pretty
good $ on eBay. Will have to keep an eye out for one. Do you have any
suggestions for sources? Steve
On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 8:36:21 PM UTC-4, William wrote:
For those who really like a compact double, I can
I think what Grant actually said is that Roadeo has the lightest tubing he is
willing to use. It is a lighter frame.
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Subject: [RBW] Re: AHH or Rodeo?
One in my opinion advantage to the roadeo is the ability to get a
threadless fork. You will have a much greater choice of handlebars
especially as a lot of bars seem to be going to 31.8
Dan Abelson
On Apr 5, 2012 6:35 AM, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote:
Give RBW a call and
Brian,
The modified struts look great. Thanks for the detailed documentation
on how you did it.
I have wondered sometimes about the necessity of using the lower
struts at all. When the platform is bolted onto the front rack, the
Platrack is already very solid, even -- or especially -- when
I think they never have any lying around and they are built to order at
Waterford. When I bought mine it was a 2-3 month wait but I got to choose the
color. I love mine but with already having a Rambouillet I probably should have
gotten an Atlantis.
Stephen
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Can anybody clearly articulate the differences between the AHH and the
Roadeo? I doubt the weight difference is more than a few ounces. And having
followed Rivendell's trajectory of bike design pretty closely for the past
8 years, I'd be surprised if the geometry was vastly different between
Beautiful execution.
On Thursday, April 5, 2012 12:04:47 AM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjyQ5Piu
I have always liked having the larger platform of the Platrack on my AHH,
but disliked the long struts that stretch down to the fender mounts by the
axle. I had removed the
The Roadeo has lighter tubing. It may only be a few ounces, but in
roadie world this is a significant detail. The Roadeo is Grant's effort
to offer a modern lugged-steel bicycle to folks who otherwise wouldn't
purchase a Rivendell. I'm sure it's also the answer to the question, What
if we
Is this thread still active? I'll post my headset experience: I bought a
new Sam Hillborne from Rivendell, assembled by them, in April of 2010.
Within one month, the day after completing the Davis Double, I noticed that
my headset was pitted, with a noticeable notch when the bars were turned
they are probably discontinued because they don't sell.
I remember reading on the Blug that he/Grant attributed the slump in
SingleOne sales to the Sam Hilborne. People who were interested in the SO
were opting to buy the Hilborne instead.
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Well, if we were in roadie world, where a few ounces was important, then
the Roadeo wouldn't be a very good choice, because it is substantially
heavier than other roadie world bikes. But I think most people on this
list agree that a few ounces, even a pound or two, doesn't significantly
affect
My point is that a roadie outside of our little corner of the world will be
looking for the lightest Rivendell; one with 700c wheels in all sizes, and
a threadless fork. No, I don't think the weight difference between AHH and
Roadeo matters much to us here on the list. Pick your color/wheel
Different head angle and different wheel base, with Roadeo being steeper and
shorter respectively. I think these are important contributors to the
difference in ride.
In addition, with 130 mm spacing, the Roadeo is more conducive to lighter road
wheels, but of course, this would be a trend
Thanks, David :)
I'm working the other way around: I have most of the parts, I just need to
collect the frame!
Riv very kindly allowed me to pay for the SO frame and the last of the
parts in a couple of installments. I'll make the last one later this month
so expect to have the bike built by
Do I have this wrong? I've always pronounced it RO-deo, like the cowboy
thing, which always struck me as a little odd for a bicycle. Is it possible
that it's ro-DAY-o, like the Drive in Beverly Hills, or the town 30 miles
from here?
Joe hmm.. Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
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Pretty sure it's the cowboy thing. Some people who don't approve of cowboy
rodeos were mad about that at the beginning
On Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:29:53 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
Do I have this wrong? I've always pronounced it RO-deo, like the cowboy
thing, which always struck me as a
Hmm I always thought it was like rodeo drive pronunciation too sine telling
someone you ride a rodeo can be a bit confusing.
On Apr 5, 2012 11:30 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
wrote:
Pretty sure it's the cowboy thing. Some people who don't approve of cowboy
rodeos were
No. A Saluki. Which admittedly has narrower chainstays than the Atlantis
but by no means skinny. It'll take 42mm tires w/ fenders.
On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 2:29:08 PM UTC-4, William wrote:
Even if you are right about the new Rene Herse crankset is the very best
crankset in the world
In the smaller sizes the Roadeo and the AHH are quite different (the size
the OP rides would be a 650b AHH vs. a 700c Roadeo) The geometry is
especially different in these smaller sizes too. Once the size gets up a
little larger (59cm seems to the be spot) the bikes become less different.
I used
I know you're being tongue-in-cheek when you declare that anything is the
indisputable best. I work on enough old bikes to kill whatever nostalgia
I may have once had for old parts or even for new parts that look old. I
can't imagine a scenario where I'd consider putting an antiquarian crank
Grant had a comment (in a Reader, I believe) about how thought it should be
pronounced in the run-up before the bike arrived.
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You can stretch out a 105 long cage rear derailleur to get around a 34,
even though it suggests to max out at aaround 28 or so. I run a Dura-Ace
rear mech thast puts me smoothly onto the 34t cog every time.
For everyone touting the 105 line; It's true! Most club racers ride 105
cause it works.
I ran the #'s through JimG's trail
calchttp://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php,
and interestingly enough, on 59cm
frameshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc#gid=0,
the trail (and presumably handling) is the same when the Roadeo has 28mm
That's funny. I like the degree of ambiguity in it. Cowboy fans can call it
RO-deo, non-cowboy fans can call it ro-DAY-o.
Today everybody's a winner!
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com wrote:
Pretty sure it's the cowboy thing. Some people who
On Apr 5, 11:28 am, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
Different head angle and different wheel base, with Roadeo being steeper and
shorter respectively. I think these are important contributors to the
difference in ride.
yeah, that geo and the threadless option just make it a
Either pronunciation in reference to a cowboy rodeo actually works, as I've
been corrected many times over by my Salinas friends.
Lee
SF, CA
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:28 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
That's funny. I like the degree of ambiguity in it. Cowboy fans can call
it
HA! Good point, Lee!
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DANG! I always said: road-ee-YO! I was kicking some early 90's hip-hop
flava!
On Thursday, April 5, 2012 9:28:22 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
That's funny. I like the degree of ambiguity in it. Cowboy fans can call
it RO-deo, non-cowboy fans can call it ro-DAY-o.
Today
Yo, yo, yo... East Coast!
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:10 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
DANG! I always said: road-ee-YO! I was kicking some early 90's hip-hop
flava!
On Thursday, April 5, 2012 9:28:22 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
That's funny. I like the degree of
Re ambiguity, I think there was also some conjecturing about the proper
pronunciation of the lamented SimpleOne: SIM-ple wun? Or the raffish and quite
Continental SIM-play-OH-nay?
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I agree with those who advocate the Roadeo. I've test ridden the 55cm floor
model extensively, taking it out for long rides over several days. It's a
superb bike: responsive, stable, peppy.
It isn't as quick handling or spry as an Italian race bike, but that in
itself may be an argument in
There's a spectacularly fast brevet rider on an Orange 700c Hilsen in Santa
Cruz. He rides on 25mm tires by my reckoning, and he's got a very sporty
contemporary build on his Hilsen. I have not had time to dwell on the
details because after we get out of town on a 200 or a 300k, he just rests
Aaron I think I just posted above about that dude. He's dropped me on
brevets a couple times, and yes, skinny tires in 73mm reach calipers looks
really goofy. It makes it look like a 27 to 700c conversion.
On Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:15:42 AM UTC-7, Aaron Thomas wrote:
I agree with
APPROVE!
On Thursday, April 5, 2012 12:04:47 AM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjyQ5Piu
I have always liked having the larger platform of the Platrack on my AHH,
but disliked the long struts that stretch down to the fender mounts by the
axle. I had removed the rack for the
Just to see if it vould be done, i put a set of 26 eheels from my Ram on a 700
size crit racer using the 73 mm reach brakes. It looked less goofy than the
Hilsen pictured.
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I would have bought a SO instead of my Sam, but the Sam actually came in my
size (small). The SO would make a great 2nd bike for someone who has an
Atlantis or Hunqapillar I would think.
On Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:16:12 AM UTC-5, Matt wrote:
they are probably discontinued because they
I like that a lot! I also find the long struts less than satisfying. I
wouldn't think this would significantly reduce the capacity of the rack.
Thanks for the idea!
Jim in Boulder (looking for his hacksaw, file and mallet...)
On Thursday, April 5, 2012 1:04:47 AM UTC-6, stonehog wrote:
of course goofy is in the eye of the beholder
On Thursday, April 5, 2012 11:01:34 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:
Just to see if it vould be done, i put a set of 26 eheels from my Ram on
a 700 size crit racer using the 73 mm reach brakes. It looked less goofy
than the Hilsen pictured.
Sent
Matt
That's the way I seem to be doing it. I have 95% of the build kits for two
more bikes. For the cost of a Betty Frameset I'd have a man-mixte! For
the cost of an Atlantis frameset I'd have an epic all-rounder! It's just
SO MUCH EASIER to absorb build kits into the garage. Once it's
I have a Sam and a Quickbeam and have them set up quite differently, so
they don't really overlap at all. I suppose you could make a single speed,
stripped-down Sam, and do a 3x5 hack on a QB or SO and load it with
luggage, but you'd be fighting the inherent nature of each bike. Riv seems
too
On Thursday, April 5, 2012 8:14:19 AM UTC-7, Daniel M wrote:
Is this thread still active? I'll post my headset experience: I bought a
new Sam Hillborne from Rivendell, assembled by them, in April of 2010.
Within one month, the day after completing the Davis Double, I noticed that
my
Steve
No I don't have a source. I'm half-way hoping my Trek on ebay doesn't
sell, just so I can part it out and absorb another M751 derailer into
inventory. I see a lot of posts here that Silver shifters don't like
9-speed, and I just swapped out a Dura Ace RD7700 for that reason. Silver
When my Rodeo was ready to ship, I asked Mark to send a pair of Rolly Polly
tires with the order. He steered me to the JB's. Said the frame was designed
for this tire size. My previous road bike was a Rambouillet and I loved the RP
tires on it. I was hesitant to go with the 33.'s on the
On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 20:19 +, nawr...@comcast.net wrote:
When my Rodeo was ready to ship, I asked Mark to send a pair of Rolly
Polly tires with the order. He steered me to the JB's. Said the
frame was designed for this tire size. My previous road bike was a
Rambouillet and I loved the
Only if a 'wee bit' is ~5mm. The Roly Poly runs a true 27mm on a narrow
rim (open pro) and the Jack Brown runs a hair under a true 33mm on the same
rim. The tread pattern is identical.
On Thursday, April 5, 2012 1:50:00 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 20:19 +,
On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 14:18 -0700, William wrote:
Only if a 'wee bit' is ~5mm. The Roly Poly runs a true 27mm on a
narrow rim (open pro) and the Jack Brown runs a hair under a true 33mm
on the same rim. The tread pattern is identical.
As, I believe, is the construction. Same thing, only
Great looking bike, and nice mod.
I always admire the paint when you go whizzing past. :)
Russ in Seattle
On Apr 5, 11:17 am, Jim jamesfek...@gmail.com wrote:
I like that a lot! I also find the long struts less than satisfying. I
wouldn't think this would significantly reduce the capacity
If it were me, I would also consider discussing with them the addition of
downtube shifter bosses. I'd also ask them if they'd support you adding
the option of fork braze-ons for a Mark's rack. That's just me, but I love
my downtube shifters and my handlebar bag, even on a dedicated road
I'm thinking its ROAD-eo, because of the curvy road on the head badge and
the intended use of the bike. But there's nothing wrong with making it
your own and saying Ro-DAY-oh.
Aaron Y.
Rochester, NY
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Well, no bids, so I'll strip it down and reabsorb much of the build kit.
Anyone interested in the frameset, let me know. I'll start it at $350 on
ebay, but would let it go for $300 plus shipping to the group.
On Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:48:54 PM UTC-7, William wrote:
...and it's on ebay
Thanks William. I didn't know there was a reverse-pull M751. Anyway, I
use STI shifters (brifters) and I assume I need non-rapid-rise. Steve
On Thursday, April 5, 2012 4:07:36 PM UTC-4, William wrote:
Steve
No I don't have a source. I'm half-way hoping my Trek on ebay doesn't
sell,
The extra weight in a Homer is probably a trivial part of the whole roder +
bike equation, but it's not just about the weight. Lighter tubes will flex
a bit more, potentially giving a livelier feel to the machine. As an
extreme counter-example, I have a Miyata 1000 tourer that I commute on.
The stock headset on the early Sam Hillbornes was possibly not the best
sealed. Mine started leaking grease out the lower bearing after a couple
of months. While never causing any problems or pitting, after about a year
had my LBS replace it with a Shimano 105. It's not totally silver, but
very informative, as I want a broad range of gears. I have never had a
bike with only a double crank in front.
On Apr 4, 7:08 pm, islaysteve alkire...@verizon.net wrote:
I have 105 and like it a lot. But lately I'm favoring a compact double
crank (Sugino), and as far as I can tell, with the
The obvious scenario to put beautiful parts on a bike is: You get a bike
that you think is worth it.
TA cranks can be finicky it's true. They were designed before there were
standards. Otherwise they're sexy, strong and very good. They were the
go-to crankset for the earliest mountain bikes
Thanks for all of your input so far. I am not sure what the hell most
of you are talking about here, but you sure are bike nerds.I am
still stuck on figuring out double versus triple crank in the front,
and if I change, which brand to use, and whether or not that requires
new derailers or not.
The SimpleOne is the only Rivendell bicycle I own.I would like a
Hunk or maybe a Sam not sure yet. Haven't ridden the SO over the
winter much since my racked and lit ride is my Trucker. Sunshine is
coming and I plan on a gear modification/addition for the SO.
On Mar 25, 12:27 pm, David
OK. But your range is determined only by the big ring and the granny.
Having a ring in the middle doesn't add to your range of gears. Middle
rings just overlap the same gear inches. Usually what happens with a triple
is you end up with a large big ring that you sometimes avoid. If your tired
I just shortened my stem from 10 to 8cm. Doesn't sound like much but
it's like a new bike, everything just fell into place. So much
better. I had the bars raised to the limit but it always felt like I
was reaching for the positions, a little different that stretching.
During rides I started
Nobody know this but the word is actually pronounced ROAD. Es and Os
are silent after Ds in creatively spelled previously Angloized Spanish
words. rotare eadem rodear. Just a bit of trivia I made up :)
On Apr 5, 4:34 pm, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm thinking its ROAD-eo, because of
Many of you probably know already, but this combination actually fits. I
mean, it's super tight and requires a fair bit of fiddling to get just
right, but I'm sitting here in amazement that it worked. I've been
experimenting a bit lately; started with 38 Marathon GG, bought some 32
Pasela TGs
Pictures?
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Scot Brooks scothinck...@gmail.com wrote:
Many of you probably know already, but this combination actually fits. I
mean, it's super tight and requires a fair bit of fiddling to get just
right, but I'm sitting here in amazement that it worked. I've
And photos. http://imgur.com/a/PqkMV
Not terribly revealing, but something anyway. Yes, that's a barrel adjuster
on the back of my Sheldon's Fender Nut. No good reason.
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thats so tight it might be safer than a the bit of space between my Hetres
an VO Zeppelins on my Hilsen. You went for almost Atlantis esque tires on
a Hillborne, good show!
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Scot Brooks scothinck...@gmail.com wrote:
And photos. http://imgur.com/a/PqkMV
Not
If your guy at Williamson cycle built up the bike and it served you so
well on a cross country tour, I wouldn't mess too much with success.
I am not sure what the hell most of you are talking about here, but
you sure are bike nerds. You got that part right! If your guy is
still around, take
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