I will have to stick with the Hilsen when I have to go to one bike. I find
myself really enjoying Homer these days in its lightish rando format. So
much so that I keep moving my Hunqa more toward the same layout. It has
been shedding weight since I originally built it up, and the cockpits and
Could I hang a bike or two on the wall and not count it? My first thought was
no, but I could cut back to just the Quickbeam, if I got the gears
straightened out again to have two to three manual change fixed gears. I like
pulling bikes apart and fooling with them, which usually means I need a
That's another question... If I only had one bike, would I choose the practical
one? If you could start from zero and have any bike as your only bike, would it
be a practical one? It's insured and price is no object...
Philip (ees waffer theen...)
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If I had to go down to 1 it would be the Hilborne.
Marc
On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:48:04 PM UTC-5, murphyjrfk wrote:
Suppose the title says it all. But I've been a thinking about going down
to 1---not a big step down cause I normally only have two three tops o'
working bikes anyways.
Patrick,
I considered these tyres (without noticing the price) but in the end I
decided a puncture belt was a good thing for commuting/transport so I chose
big apples. I suspect super motos would be nice for rides where you don't
mind stopping to change a flat. I'd be interested to hear how
Interesting post as I have been rolling this over in my mind over the past
month or so,
Realistically I'll always have at least 2 bikes, one is a my refurbished 80s
Bianchi which used to be my wife's has too much sentimental value to give up, I
only use it for charity rides and has limited
Not sure I could get down to only one. Have thought about it with my Cross
Check. Then have a second wheelset for when I want to ride single speed.
But then I want the fatter tires that are on my LHT.
A 61cm Atlantis would probably be able to cover it all for me. But then
I'd feel really
Sugino has a wider distance than Ultegra between the crank arms (Q-factor)
which I find more comfortable. I tried an Ultegra triple in place of the
stock Sugino set up on my Ram, and changed it back, preferring the Sugino.
The stock gearing was 48-36-26. I have a 50 on at the moment, and changing
An interesting thread. . .
I've an Atlantis which is almost The Perfect Bike for me and I've also an
early fixed-gear-only version of a Rawland Drakkar. If the Atlantis had the
capacity to become a fixed gear with a simple swap o' the wheel it would be
The Perfect Bike. . . perhaps I should have
One thing for certain, wax is a mix of dissolved paraffins, and the lighter
components, which make it flow, also have higher vapor pressure and slowly
evaporate. So the wax itself will lose its mass and continuity over time,
and needs to be replenished. Not tomorrow or even next year, but
I have a Roadeo and an Atlantis, but If I could only have one bike it would
most definitely be the Atlantis. You can do anything on an Atlantis.
Because you can.
On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:48:04 PM UTC-5, murphyjrfk wrote:
Suppose the title says it all. But I've been a thinking about
I always love these kinds of discussions. I think it allows for a window
into the soul of my friends.
For those of you who might not have seen this, a blog author has proposed
an interesting mental exercise somewhat aligned with this topic...
http://singularitas.org/2013/01/15/the-crossover/
These conversations are the best. Bits o envy always pop up when I see some of
these other bikes. I'm going to try it though...my one bike is going to be a
surly troll. I bought it at the end o last year really cause it was orange and
could take big ol fatties. But mostly because it was orange.
I keep threatening to set one of my bikes up with this sorta wide-range
double. I still have the Sugino crank from my Quickbeam with 40/32 rings.
From what I hear you can use a regular road double derailer. It makes a lot
of sense for commuting, rambling and even touring.
As for rings...
Hey All,
I have long tried to get to one, but have not, since the mid 80's. In the
wonderful collection of characters I know from riding there are several who
seem to live with one consistently. The one who comes first to mind, for
reasons unrelated, rides a Yeti MTB. He alternates between 700s
You can do anything. If I had to, it would be (hands down) my Atlantis,
Alba bars, conventional Riv triple setup, dyno lights. (I'm guessing there may
be a lot of Atlantii in the answers to this post.) I'm grateful I don't have
to.
An interesting related question, for those who currently
+1 (made me chuckle)
-JimD
On Jan 22, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote:
Wait. You can have more then one bike?!
Now I'm going to save up for a Roadeo.
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Steve makes a good point, but in my experience, failures on quality
bikes are exceedingly rare. I rode my Alex Singer about 60,000 km in
about 6 years. The only failures I recall were:
- bottom bracket bearing failure. (My fault, I had known for 2 years
that the 33-year-old bearings were on their
Wouldn't want to be forced tofor commuting and general riding it would
be the workhorse X0-1...I don't commute on my rivs...unless I could stick
one of them in my cubicle...if that were the case, it would be the
all-rounder. Last couple of years I've been having way too much fun on my
On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 07:33 -0800, Jan Heine wrote:
I find that with fewer bikes, it's easier to keep them in top shape.
For many years, I raced and trained 12,000 miles a year and had a
single bike, without ever missing a ride or race due to the bike not
being rideable.
I recently had a
Will keep an eye on my daily ride in bart too
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Will keep an eye on my daily ride in bart too
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I ride in to work from the Richmond District, usually thru the lower Haight and
down Market to SoMa. I'll also keep my eye open.
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Subject: Re:
I have a set on my Atlantis I'm selling. Son 28 on Mavic A719 (Phil Wood
rear) Have panaracer Pasela TG tires on too. I can get a light with them
as I have a few.
Tim
On Sunday, January 20, 2013 12:34:42 PM UTC-8, Ryan Ray wrote:
I just tried to buy one on Fleabay and of course snipers
Pondero already posted my answer
(http://singularitas.org/2013/01/15/the-crossover/) but here's the original
proposal: http://singularitas.org/2013/01/11/one-to-rule-them-all/ and my
answer: http://singularitas.org/2013/01/15/the-crossover/.
I should point out that not long after I wrote both
I did it. I'm doing it! '92 Bridgestone XO-1, triple crankset, Albatross
bars, 1.25 Schwalbe Marathons, MKS sneaker pedals, and a Carradice
Lowsaddle Longflap. I ride short distances quickly, and long distances
slowly, so it's pretty much everything I need.
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Hi all,
I happened to order some Big Apple wheels for my new bike, but got shipped
the wrong tires. The price was right, but wondering, do people have any
opinion about the kevlar version of Big-Apple tires vs. the raceguard
versions?
I've read varying reports online, where people think it was
I got some Black Ops pedals from 20/20 cycles and put the power grip velcro
bands on them. Wide platform, spikes and the strap is loose so I can wear
boots .
It's tough to find these online, especially the straps. looking for power
grips usually shows the basic style, but these are some
Neither. It is like comparing Honda Civic and Toyota Camry.
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 6:15 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote:
Really doesn't matter when Sugino provides options that allow the
chainrings I want and Ultegra does not. Sugino cranks are awesome.
-Original
Hi Chris,
I live above you in Sunland, perhaps we can get a ride in. I'm hoping SoCal
Riv riders put a ride together that would be nice. I've seen some really
nice custom paint on Homers, a black with metallic specks cream head
tube, another up in Washinton state sort of champagne and a baby
Well this is a great topic, I tend to agree with Jan and sold my race bike
with the intent on building my ideal bike that covered most bases, fitness,
credit card tour and mixed terrain so I bought an AHH
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/8399675881/in/photostream and
since I'm lite
Hey Tim, if the original poster isnt still interested, I am! Is the
Phil would hub, freewheel or cassette compatible? what were you
thinking for price? thank you -Mike
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Tim Unger onetimun...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a set on my Atlantis I'm
My shop Hiawatha Cyclery is pretty bike-commuting-focused in a bike-commuting
town. Lots of our customers are car-free and only have one bike. Often, when
the one-bike commuter types have a need for repair, they ask us to expedite the
repair in our queue on the grounds that they're car-free and
Ah, the endless debate...
My favorite bike (at this particular moment) is my SimpleOne
If I had 10 minutes to abandon my home and take only one bike and a
toothbrush, I would likely grab my Bombadil (and my favorite whiskey... and
forget the toothbrush)...
If I had to ride cross country, I
Here in the U.S., they cost $100, or ~ 76€, which is why we're all aghast.
Since I'm not even interested in paying $50 for a tire, they're not that
much more shocking than $65 tires to me.
Philip
www.biketinker.com
On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:21:50 AM UTC-8, Tom Harrop wrote:
Patrick,
Funny--this is a topic that used to come up with my motorcycle friends all
the time, back when I had motorcycles. Well, of *course* you need a fast
bike (Ducati), an adventure bike (BMW), a vintage bike (Triumph or more
likely a '60's Honda)...and the list goes on...;)
In general I agree with
I have two, a Litespeed and an All Rounder. The Litespeed's second set of
components are nearing the end if their useful service life. I use it for club
rides but in the past couple of years the club has gotten younger and faster.
Riding for several hours at maximum exertion level is finally
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:46 AM, Lyle Bogart lylebog...@gmail.com wrote:
If the Atlantis had the
capacity to become a fixed gear with a simple swap o' the wheel it would be
The Perfect Bike. . . perhaps I should have the Atlantis modified with
horizontal drop outs. . .
All you need is a White
Jim,
How could I have forgotten about that?! Embarrassing!! Thanks for the
reminder--the Atlantis just got that much closer to The Perfect Bike :-)
Cheers!
lyle
On 23 January 2013 12:38, Jim Mather mather...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:46 AM, Lyle Bogart lylebog...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Lyle Bogart lylebog...@gmail.com wrote:
Jim,
How could I have forgotten about that?! Embarrassing!! Thanks for the
reminder--the Atlantis just got that much closer to The Perfect Bike :-)
Cheers!
lyle
Of course, I'm not actually advocating for a one-bike
Last year I was really getting by with one, but I was also living in a
place where I couldn't bike commute, and I bought a car. Now I'm back
(hopefully for a while) living in a place where I bike commute, and I'm
doing really well getting by with two.
The thing that iterates it for me is
The SN is A10197
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Bruce,
Thanks for jumping in! I've noodled getting some Rock 'n Roads for my
SimpleOne for messing around in the dirt. I've been under the
impression that SimpleOnes have more clearance than most/all of the
earlier-though-related Quickbeam frames. Mine at least seems to have
clearance for miles.
Justin,
Marathon Supremes would be my personal rec. after trying them on my
SimpleOne. The 42-622/700x40C model left room for fenders when mounted
on Open Pros - though I never did install fenders with them. They're
495g each, but designed to be as little tank-y as a Schwalbe tire that
will last
Maybe you should call Keven at Rivendell and ask him if the broken Hunqa in the
BLUG is a 62. If it is, make them an offer. They are going to fix it and
paint it anyway. Might as well be yours!
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I agree Grant may be a bit conservative but a Hunq is a fantastic bike. I'm
on the heavier side myself (250 and hopefully dropping a bit) and have both
a 62cm Hunq and a 66cm Quickbeam. I've had no trouble at all with the QB.
I've even gone camping with way too much stuff on the QB without issue.
On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 7:19:14 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 19:10 -0800, Jan Heine wrote:
For recreational and general transportation use, one bike would be
quite feasible. In fact, since I prefer to focus on the ride rather
than the bike, I don't
I've been doing it for two years now. I had a fixed gear as a second bike.
I guess I got caught up in the fad and it quickly wore off. Now I'm just
rolling on my Sam. Commuting, leisure rides and about 1-3 long group rides
a year. Everyone loves it on the group rides and I'm sure a lot of them
Wow, OK. $100 per tyre? That is extreme, and I take back what I (jokingly)
said about Patrick's obligation to test!
I'm a bit surprised too. I see Riv has BAs for $47 which is less than a 40
% markup from the DE online-retail price, whereas $100 for Super Motos is
more than a 100 % markup.
I've been doing it for two years now. I had a fixed gear as a second bike.
I guess I got caught up in the fad and it quickly wore off. Now I'm just
rolling on my Sam. Commuting, leisure rides and about 1-3 long group rides
a year. Everyone loves it on the group rides and I'm sure a lot of them
I'm signed up for STP. A friend and I will probably do the F-ing Hills
race too.
- *Brian*
On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 7:34:36 PM UTC-8, Benedikt wrote:
Anyone doing Chilly Hilly or STP (Seattle to Portland) in 2013?
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That is a tough one. Right now two bikes - my '94 XO-4 and a green Ram.
Lots of overlap except the XO-4 can take a wider tire with fenders - I have
42s on it currently. The Ram is the club bike and the XO-4 is set up as the
grocery getter/baby hauler (Albas, racks etc.)
But if it were to be one
According to the Schwalbe website, the MSRP per tire for the Super Moto is
$84-94, not quite $100. I'm sure some online places will have it cheaper.
There are plenty of $15 tires out there, and everything in between.
As for the price of bike stuff in general, part of the problem is guys
like
On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 14:01 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
Anyway, It's sort of funny to be discussing the high price of $85
tires on a forum that's primarily concerned with $1000-3000 framesets,
$300 saddlebags, and other boutique items.
If tires lasted as long as framesets or
On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:39:03 AM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:
I thought all the Atlantises had 2s in the logo. Both of mine do. But
I'll be keeping an eye out; I would be heartbroken if someone stole
one of my Atlantises.
Anne,
In one of the Readers, somewhere Grant said the 2
On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 7:49:59 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
Wait. You can have more then one bike?
Manny, if there's one person on this list that proves that one bike is
enough, it's you. I don't know, maybe you have other bikes but I look at
your photos and I see you out there on
As part of my job, I quote the cost of manufactured parts (injection molded
thermoplastic parts/assemblies) to OEM's. I think Philip is correct in that
the materials often times make-up a pretty small portion of the price of a
manufactured part. When a company is purchasing elastomer resin,
Sure, tires wear out over time, while other items are less consumable, but
that's kinda beside the point. For the added cost of a $2000 Riv frameset,
compared to, say, a $500 Surly, you're not buying extra durability. You're
buying swankiness and style and maybe some preferable ride quality
Nice. Just a tad too big for my 87 PBH.
Bummer
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Man I used to pay 100ish a tire for my car, granted they were cheap tires
but they still lasted 20k miles. I doubt the same could be said for these
tires.
On Jan 23, 2013 5:06 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 14:01 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
If only you could buy a tire that weighed 30-40 lbs for your bicycle, it
would probably last 20,000 miles easy. But people don't pay extra for
mileage in bike tires like they do with car tires. Bike people are
impossible to please with regard to tires: lightweight, smooth rolling,
This didn't go through yesterday for some reason. Re-posting:
Hugh,
To answer what I'm using as my main bike right now, I have a Pashley Guvnor
http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/guvnor.html
Really cool bike and very fun to ride. Hate to get rid of it but that's
about the only way I could swing
The Atlantis was introduced in RR 18, (referred to before that as the
low-cost All Rounder) and named after the mythical island that may have
gotten sunk by what some say was an earthquake 3,500 years ago. I think
Leslie is right about the 2 reference, although I can't come up with the RR
Waxing is most useful on clothes, where the movement and rubbing on the
layers beneath otherwise could transfer a lot of water through the fabric.
On a good tightly woven cotton bag that is hanging quite still, the fabric
only gets a bit moist on the inside. If something, waxing a bag should
I agree with Rob. Two is the minimum for a daily rider in order to have a
margin of comfort for making your schedule, especially if one is living
car-free.
On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:22:24 AM UTC-8, Rob wrote:
Funny--this is a topic that used to come up with my motorcycle friends all
I haven't had the chance to read all the responses, but would like to
respond to the original question.
I went the last two years with only one bike, a Sam Hillborne. During that
time I have been active in a bike club that does fast club rides and I have
also commuted some, not to mention
I'd like to sell this as soon as possible, as I could really use the money.
It's a fantastic bike, and I hope it finds a good home.*Asking $850 +
actual shipping.* I'm open to offers on the bike minus wheels, in case you
have your own. Local pickup in Oakland, CA is also possible.
Has anyone tried the Tioga Mt-Zeroes? They look interesting, though the
following review doesn't sound too great.
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Tioga-MT-ZERO-Pedal-Tested-2012.html
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I've been in the bike business since 2005. The price of everything has gone
up significantly since then. Brooks saddle prices have more than doubled.
Riv's frames are up 50% (based on my 2004 Atlantis that was $1300, now
$2000). Schwalbe tires in any given model have been one of the more
Can anyone speak to the clearance of the Thin Gripsters? I'm thinking
of switching from GK's to those on my Quickbeam-fixie, and not
scraping would be nice. Planning to go with a side-by-side comparison
running the VO Sabot on my Hillborne, as those seem surely too wide
for a fixie.
On Jan 22,
Chris,
I agree the old Hunga colors are amazing, I really like a paint job with lug
lining. That Pashley is beautiful, and reasonably priced. I will probably
myself look for an old steel framed bike as a back up like a Trek or Univega at
some point, I of course have to get that passed by my
On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 15:25 -0800, Marty wrote:
The Atlantis was introduced in RR 18, (referred to before that
as the low-cost All Rounder) and named after the mythical
island that may have gotten sunk by what some say was an
earthquake 3,500 years ago. I think
I Jim's defense if they came in cream I would give em a maybe vote. But it
seems like everything but my pay has gone up a good bit.
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com wrote:
I've been in the bike business since 2005. The price of everything has
NO! Trying to stay in single digits.
One bike? Could ya do it and what would it be?
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BTW, whenever my wife gets started on the subject of how many bikes I have
(5 + 2 for my son), I remind her that a married man can only have one
woman, but can have many bikes. That usually ends it.
While I stated that if I had to reduce to only one bike it would likely be
my Atlantis, the truth
Yep, I'd pay a Creme premium, too. Cremium.
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Ah, I remember the moment I had the revelation that one can own more than
one: a bike mechanic friend literally had a stable in the backyard of the
an old rental house in Austin, Texas, which once really was a stable, and
which had a bike rack inside with a selection of old bikes the various
Could wish that they had the Liteskin sidewalls. My wife could definitely
feel a difference when I replaced her regular Big Apples with the Liteskin
version. But will admit to being a bit baffled why they are twice the
price of a similar Big Apple. (Both seem to have the new tread pattern).
Would like to add something - while appreciating folks riding (and own, and
write about) very expensive bikes, I just can't do it. It's a reverse
snobbery issue. Instead of spending a large amount of money on one single
superlative bike I'd be afraid to ride, would rather own a couple less
I'm out-of-town, don't have my Reader collection w/ me, but, I found this:
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Wow, a serial number over 1!!! Mine was 727 and in its heyday I recall that
Riv sold about 400-500 per annum. Does that mean there are 10,000 Atlantises? I
had no idea there were so many - I would have guessed there were maybe
2000-3000 total.
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I run the VP-001 aka Gripsters on my Cross-check fixie. So far no pedal strike
on the 170 mm cranks and 38 mm tires, but that's never been a huge issue for me.
The latest VP-001 and Vice pedals are my favorites to date. I used a lot of Sun
Ringle Zuzu pedals for the last couple years. Before
I only have one bike and it's a Betty Foy. I ride her everywhere all the
time. It's my primary transportation, fun and exercise all in one. I
could do light touring which I hope to do someday.
On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:48:04 PM UTC-5, murphyjrfk wrote:
Suppose the title says it all.
another new Schwalbe tire that appeals to me more is the Big Ben, like a
Big Apple but with a little bit of tread depth and in a 700x55.
A lot cheaper too.
~mike
On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:54:08 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:45:36 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
Cyclery wrote:
Wow, a serial number over 1!!! Mine was 727 and in its heyday I recall
that Riv sold about 400-500 per annum. Does that mean there are 10,000
Atlantises? I had no idea there were so many - I would have
In front of a daycare? Harsh.
Ryan
On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 2:40:34 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:
Seen on CL: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/3563538367.html
Keep your eye out for it.
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No worries - my Atlantis. It's my ride 99% of the time. The other 2 bikes
I have are pretty much retired serve no need. It's just fun to ride
something entirely different once in a while.
dougP
On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 6:48:04 PM UTC-8, murphyjrfk wrote:
Suppose the title says it
Saw this bike on BART. Bike is looks great. Owner seemed super cool. Good
luck to the lucky new owner that grabs this gem.
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Yes, I could reduce all the way down to Atlantis-only if I had to. It's that good.Riding down Shafter (a Marin County dirt road) with 700x40 Extremes and a camping load and feeling great on pretty steep dirt descending was another moment where the bike impressed me, and this was after having
Of the Betty, Quickbeam, RB-1 and AHH... I enjoy riding the AHH the most... But
I would probably pick Betty if I could only have one. I am thinking ahead to
when I may not be limber, and the step-thru frame will age well with me.
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I picked these up whenever they were in production last. Size is a medium, and
therefore I didn't wear them enough to put any significant miles on them, as
I'm really a Large. The downside is the brown stain from my saddle on the,
well, saddle area of the pants.
$50 shipped takes them.
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