pardon my ignorance. What's a Euro Style workstand?
Michael
On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:35:18 AM UTC-5, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
I'm with Franklyn regarding the Tanaka fenders. I've got a 26x60mm set on
my Atlantis and it took an hour or two to install, *after* I gathered all
the
I installed Honjos last month, and the real trick to these is the lateral
position of the stay in the fender rod bolt. The front is usually
symmetric, but it depends on the alignment of the fork hole where the
daruma rod bolt is attached. The rear is probably not symmetric, due to
different
On Tue, 2013-02-26 at 05:03 -0800, Ron Mc wrote:
I installed Honjos last month, and the real trick to these is the
lateral position of the stay in the fender rod bolt. The front is
usually symmetric, but it depends on the alignment of the fork hole
where the daruma rod bolt is attached. The
no, there is no load on the fender - that is the point of aligning the stay
in the rod bolt - not where it looks it ought to be, but where it relaxes
the fender.
On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:09:08 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On Tue, 2013-02-26 at 05:03 -0800, Ron Mc wrote:
I
Agreed. Ugh.
In the quest to make a budget Riv, what exactly are the qualities they
are trying to deliver at a budget price, and what exactly can be given up
to get there?
If you are trying to deliver the Riv ride and fit, great. Then do it in a
form that allows you to deliver those
Pea Sage Green 58cm 650b sidepull/centerpull Saluki 3 water bottle making
it a Waterford built frameset, correct me if I'm wrong on that one. I'm the
original owner and purchased it from The CountryBbike Shop in Ohio.
Wonderful riding bike! It does have a number of paint chips, scratches from
Agree I have had two frames painted by Naomi Litell @ Bilenky, and the result
is relly good!
Carl W
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:46:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [RBW] Frame Paint question
From: zeidler.rob...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Send it to Bilenky. Very good work.
On Monday,
Patrick,
Welcome to the forum. I think that you have found an absolutely
outstounding place to come and learn about cycling. i know that I had
when I stumbled upon the site. I too suffer from neuro problems. I
have MS and neuropathy in my hands and feet. Riding my bike has saved
my life in many
I am weighing (no pun intended!) a few of the helpful suggestions from the
group. I think I am considering:
CETMA strong and tough, ugly and expensive.
Blackburn cheap and tough, ugly and not made for this bike.
Marks elegant and made for the bike, expensive and wondering about weight
limit,
Sugino XD2 Crank Set, triple 46X36X24, 170mm, Brand new chain rings,
left arm has a slight scratch on it...($112 shipped in lower
48).brand new set of Tektro Brakes, R559, never opened..($60/
shipped).new, never opened Park tool CCP-22 crank puller, ($15/
shipped)...I also have some
Thanks all for being do welcoming to a newcomer, letting me join the Riv
Chica/Chico Warriors, and taking such lively pics.
Now, does anyone have the recipe for that chocolate coconut bark of Grant's?
I'll bring it to the next s24o wrapped in bacon.
On Feb 25, 2013, at 9:29 PM, Manuel
Hey Manny,
Definitely interested. Will try and see if any of my friends are also
interested.
- Irving
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Patrick: welcome indeed. We need more Patricks.
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:10 PM, 3wheelin ssubman2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Patrick,
Welcome to the forum. I think that you have found an absolutely
outstounding place to come and learn about cycling. i know that I had
when I stumbled upon the site.
Peter,
You are spot on about diet and motion. Diet is indeed a huge part of my
ongoing, long term recovery. I am doing so much better since eliminating
grains and veggie oils, and even more since I've eliminated any of those
from what the animals I eat get. Grass fed and wild caught yields
Forget about the budget and embrace who you ARE Rivendell :) !!
Do what you love and love what you do . and the customers come :)
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@ Mike, Don't know that area too well either. Guess I got some riding to
do! I did a ride last year from my house up the old road through Santa
Clarita West on the 126 to Piru. On the way back it was all head wind! I
know I'll explore that area some more. I'll check out the Pine canyon rd
A San Marcos grade Atlantis.
So you just want the single TT, single color, canti-Hillborne back?
On Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:31:20 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
No that's perfect for a road bike. I was wondering out loud about a
fat-tired (relative) version. A San Marcos grade
I have never had a bike powder coated but have to plug Bruce at the Color
Factory in NJ. He did bead blasting, and an awesome Pearl Orange and Cream
job with all the cut-outs and accents for $200 shipped.
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Carl Otto Wollin
carlottowol...@hotmail.com wrote:
Edwin
Sounds like a good list. The key to using the Mark's Rack with a true load
is the second set of struts, as you can see in the staff bikes photos
(Keven's Appaloosa, Grant's Homer). It's much more loadable with the
second pair of struts.
On Monday, February 25, 2013 5:36:47 PM UTC-8,
That's this Sunday? Dude. Might have to do that. Which bike do you want
me to bring?
On Monday, February 25, 2013 8:26:55 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
Meet Fremont Bart 930ish.
Proposed route. Open to suggestions.
http://goo.gl/maps/rDEcp
Beauty of doing a ride in the East Bay. Do
Patrick,
I'm really kind of a new guy and only occasional participant here
myself, but I wanted to say welcome AND thanks for the inspiration!
My father, though quite a bit older than you, had a rare type of
stroke a few years ago that has primarily messed with his balance and
given him terrible
Dear Keith,
Thank you for the Idaho trip. I've added it to the bucket list.
For your dad, I would encourage you to play slowly and see what works. One
of the key foundational steps (literally) for me was going barefoot. At the
time, I needed 4 lb. bludger walking sticks in each hand to walk
yea, Bill, except with room for 50mm tires. I had one of those Hillbornes
and liked it but sold it for a Ram. Now I wish I had kept it instead
of selling it to Dustin. It was a good trail bike and for touring but
it's was stiff for my taste for road riding.
~mike
On Tuesday, February 26,
RCW, MD (MD is a long story) here back in snowy Minnesota. I'll post a
review of the appaloosa in short order, but mostly I wanna say what a
wonderful time it was: people, bikes, countryside... some memories:
manny's festooned atlantis
boiled crab, bacon wrapped sausages, and SPAM quesadillas
holy moly boys, just looked at the photos! they are beautiful! what a
sense of composition and placement and technical spot-on-ness. wow. Now
if only I didn't look like I was grumbling because lord knows I was having
the time of my life!
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Not to nit-pick, Liesl, but Manny's festooned bike is a Hillborne. :)
On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:24:13 PM UTC-8, Liesl wrote:
holy moly boys, just looked at the photos! they are beautiful! what a
sense of composition and placement and technical spot-on-ness. wow. Now
if only I
This bike is •the bomb*. I think there's the impression out in the cloud
that suggests it's a cruiser built for flat-lands. I don't think this idea
holds much water to anyone who saw Keven drop like a falcon on a vole
during his Appaloosa-descent down Shell Ridge this past Sunday. With those
OK, Last chance to sweeten the deal further. I will pick up the shipping
and or deliver the bike as I make my way up and down the west coast in the
first half of March on my way too and from the Seattle expo - Rob (really
needing to get this bike out)
On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:23:43 PM
Compared to the cost advantages of buying frames in larger quantity, the
savings involved in cheapening lugs or paint is almost irrelevant. If 100
Riv people put down a serious deposit, I imagine Riv could give us an
economical Atlantis without compromising on anything (except maybe size
I love all the answers. And the what not. But I suppose I forgot to
mention I don't care if the bike they come out with didn't have lugs was a
mixte with gray primer as pain t and not a single decal. I'm not tall so
generally ride a 52 give or take and the thing that drives me crazy is you
It will be the Apaliesl!!! Sorry I was out of town and didn't get a chance
to meet you and go on the ride... Here's to next time!
At least I enjoyed the photos.
René
On Tuesday, February 26, 2013, Liesl wrote:
This bike is •the bomb*. I think there's the impression out in the cloud
that
Yes!!! But w/ clearance for +50mm tires like Mike mentioned. Could be the
perfect bike!
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:58 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
A San Marcos grade Atlantis.
So you just want the single TT, single color, canti-Hillborne back?
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http://www.biketinker.com/2010/projects/skate-deck-pedals/
Kinda' looks like what you're doing???
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Dear Keith,
Thank you for the Idaho trip. I've added it to the bucket
So a budget hunqapillar, which was the budget bombadil? Even with no
diagatube and one color powder coat I doubt you could get the price point
below 1k and still have it make sense. I think there would be a market
there but it would have to eat into existing hunqapillar sales instead of
bringing
Yeah, cannibalizing sales of existing is the problem. But could be a way to
grow the segment as well. Really nothing else like that out there. Doesn't
have to be a Riv bike, could be SOMA, QBP, whoever. But if San Marcos can
sell for ~$750, seems like budget Hunq could as well. Rawland Stag has it
But the San Marcos cannot retail at $750. Retail on the San Marcos is
$900. If you find somebody with a Merry Sales account that will sell it to
you for cost+$50, that does not make it an actually viable retail product
at $750. It's viable at $900.
On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 5:59:31 PM
MSRP vs. street price are different animals. A popular search engine shows
it for ~$750 with free shipping.
It doesn't even have to be a Rivendell if that cuts into brand perception,
etc. Just seems like a enough of a market for it.
/February rainy, cold, snowed in, cabin fever conjecture (from
On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:59:31 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the Hunq is more the budget Atlantis than Bomb?
Quote from the Hunq's page: Our most extravagant, screw-the-expense bike was
the off-roady Bombadil, and the Hunqapillar is a budgetated version of that
Yes! I was think Hillborne as the budget Atlantis. Brain and fingers don't
always work in concert.
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:59:31 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the Hunq is more the budget Atlantis
Technically, I think the Hilborne is considered a budget Hilsen, actually.
Of course, most RBW frames have a good bit of overlap due to their
practicality, but the Atlantis is kinda unique I wouldn't think it wrong to
think of the Hunq as a between the Atlantis and the Bomba frame,
Isn't the budget Atlantis already pretty much available in a wide range of
sizes in the form of the Surly LHT? I love Rivendell's and all but I'm just
making a legitimate observation.
Shaun Meehan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:39 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:
Yes! I was think
A popular search engine shows it for ~$750 with free shipping
that's precisely my point. quickbike.com has a Merry Sales account. They
are willing to sell a frameset for cost plus $50. Putting up an internet
storefront to sell a bike frame like a commodity doesn't prove that
Rivendell could
Yes, Shaun, it is. Absolutely correct. The OP specifically wants a budget
Riv to replace his LHT, and several have stated in the thread that what
they want is a budget lugged Atlantis.
On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 6:47:06 PM UTC-8, meehan...@gmail.com wrote:
Isn't the budget Atlantis
I thought I replied to you off list yesterday or Sunday, Rob. Maybe you
didn't get it. Anyway, I'm interested in the Roadeo. Maybe you can reply
off list. Thanks.
On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:18:01 PM UTC-5, rperks wrote:
OK, Last chance to sweeten the deal further. I will pick up the
What a great camping trip (thx to all for posting pix)! The first time I
saw the mystery bike, I thought, whoa, but not in a good way. Then, as
more pics of the diagatubes and long chain stays have become familiar to
me, I think whoa, in a good way. Keven's bike looks terrific-- I want
one,
yes... budget means different things to all of us. With US built Riv's
over $2000 now, perhaps an Atlantis like Riv made in Taiwan for $1200
would fit in nicely between the LHT and the Waterford built version.
~mike
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For added peace of mind, take an Irish strap or two and loop it between the
handlebars and the basket. Presumably, it'll take some weight off the rack
and onto the handlebars, which can support a lot of weight. I think Keven's
Appaloosa has straps in the pic.
On Tuesday, February 26, 2013
That's a business model that might work. Merry Sales paid Grant $3000 for the
San Marcos design and for permission to use Riv lugs, and they pay Riv a tiny
royalty for each frame sold. It was all in the Blug.
Now if Merry Sales came to Riv again,and said we want to do another bike, and
paid
That's a business model that might work. Merry Sales paid Grant $3000 for the
San Marcos design and for permission to use Riv lugs, and they pay Riv a tiny
royalty for each frame sold. It was all in the Blug.
Now if Merry Sales came to Riv again,and said we want to do another bike, and
paid
Liesl,
Last fall, Grant let me ride the Appaloosa and I was amazed at the handling
of that bike. It just felt right. I went there to have Grant help me with
my fit.
In addition, after a lot of discussion, beside bike fit, I discovered that
I was tightened my hip flexors doing sit ups. Again,
Thanks for the pictures. That's my orange Hillborne! Maybe next time we can
get them all in one place at the same time for a shot.
My knee didn't like that last 5 miles. Just means I'm out of shape and need
to ride more.
- Brian
On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:56:34 AM UTC-8, Andy Williams
Bummer about the raid. They didn't confiscate the whiskey did they?
On Monday, February 25, 2013 11:14:10 AM UTC-8, shawn m. wrote:
Nice photo of the Pirate Hunqapillar, but I'm probably biased seeing as
it's my bike and all :) It was a good ride, though the police swarmed our
whiskey stop
Jim I went to school up there and rode Mt Tam and surrounding area
frequently, when I see pics of Rail Road Grade it brings back great
memories. I gotta get back up there and ride. Thanks for the photo's.
Hugh
Sunland, CA
On Monday, February 25, 2013 8:58:04 AM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
I saw one more green Hillborne on the ferry returning back to Seattle.
On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:56:34 AM UTC-8, Andy Williams wrote:
33 miles around Bainbridge Island on Sunday, and Chilly Hilly lived up to
its name, with 42 degrees and a southwest wind that was b.
As Manny
Bring a bike you don't have to double think about when it comes to riding
anything. Anything big tire.
On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:16:07 AM UTC-8, William wrote:
That's this Sunday? Dude. Might have to do that. Which bike do you want
me to bring?
On Monday, February 25, 2013
Now we just need to go outside ride our bikes. Speculation is great good
fun but Grant / Rivendell will follow their own internal compass. You
never know what will pop up next (diagatube? tentacular stays?) which is
all part of the fun. Who'd ever guess about the Apaloosa?
dougP
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shoot! wish I were there—but it would probably bust my hump again! Have a
swell ride.
xxoo RCW,MD
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OK. I'll put the knobbies back on the Rawland and rock that. See you Sunday!
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Its 35 degrees out with freezing rain. I would rather stay warm and
speculate, haha. My first spring with a Rivendell ready to go though, I am
super pumped.
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:32 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
Now we just need to go outside ride our bikes. Speculation is great
An example of a Euro-style workstand is the Park PRS-20. You have to take
off a wheel and the workstand will clamp on the dropout ad support the BB
shell.
http://www.parktool.com/product/team-race-stand-prs-20
Compare this to the more normal Park workstand, where clamping is at the
seatpost
Sounds like a happy revelation; congratulations!
On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:07:22 PM UTC-5, René wrote:
It will be the Apaliesl!!! Sorry I was out of town and didn't get a chance
to meet you and go on the ride... Here's to next time!
At least I enjoyed the photos.
René
On
You mean like this?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/8506365178/in/photostream
I think it's actually quite neat, and it makes for more triangles. I like
more triangles, and all I had were the offset struts. You'll see they're
back-to-back against each other, so one is biased towards the
Nice pix. I use to water ski as a kid a Hansen Dam. Now live in NorCal.
On Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:35:19 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
Had a ride planned with another rider things just come up. I just had to
get out and ride on such a beautiful day.
Agreed, Sho! The way the diagonals swoop to resolution as stays is
beautiful, and it sounds like the ride is even better.
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.com
wrote:
What a great camping trip (thx to all for posting pix)! The first time I
saw the
I would like to replace my LHT with a Soma Saga version of the Riv
Atlantis. I am thinking Taiwan built, Riv lugs, Tange Prestige, long head
tube, quill stem, 50mm tires without fenders, kickstand plate, and
cantilever brakes. * *I wouldn't mind powder coat instead of paint because
the paint
Just over an hour ago, I snagged the last Sam Hillborne frame from Riv at
the sale price; I'm going to wait on the build a bit and think over drops,
moustaches, or albies, but am leaning towards the albatross bars as
something new for me. But really, I can't wait to try the new ride. Much
Indeed - that bicycle is amazingly capable of demolishing preconceptions.
It is a revelation.
I've kinda-wanted-but-held-off-getting a longbike for a bit. Now that I've
ridden the Appaloosa, I'm very glad I did. Ain't nuthin' like it, and it's
quite a bike.
- Jim / cyclofiend.com
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