Non-cycling shorts and sweats are a nightmare on a bike saddle. I've used
Riv MUSA pants in the past, and Swrve shorts now: They both are cut for
cycling movement, with no horrendous seams between you and saddle. Almost
all of my riding is with MUSA wooly undies and Swrve shorts. It's a perfect
I have a friend who did the WR trail recently. There are many sandy spots
so the fattest tire you can fit would be best. I love the Red Rock country
and have always wanted to do that ride. I'd opt for 2 tires if I was
doing it with some small knobs... less pushing and more riding.
~mike
Just did my first century with canari liner/briefs and musa shorts. Comfy.
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The main problem I've noticed on the Shimano dynohubs is the tendency for
the connection to go bad. On my wife's bike usually means taking a small
knife and removing the oxidation on the connector. Eventually it will be a
problem. That's one advantage the SON has.
FWIW, I have two bikes with
they're baggy, they're lightweight, they don't saturate with sweat and they
don't chafe your skin. For winter riding, I love MUSA knickers and long
pants, too.
On Sunday, August 18, 2013 11:12:05 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
Everyone seems to love them for their biking comfort.
I am not
unless you're racing downhill, there is no time you *need* a gear longer
than 85 inches. There are occasions you might enjoy blasting downhill with
a 96 gear, but for most people those occasions are rare enough, you can't
justify needing that gear. A 96 gear is 35 mph at 120 rpm.
On
This goes back to the earlier thread on padded vs. not padded shorts.
If you are one of those who are fine without padding, the MUSA shorts,
knickers and pants are great for the reasons the others point out above.
They are well made, breathe, and the seamless crotch works. Some people
Thanks -- must look that up.
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:
Sheldon's article says drag in the SW is due to thick cantilevered pinion
shafts - the AW reduces this effect by using separate stepped shafts
On Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:19:34 PM UTC-5,
My ass requires a considerably lower gear.
Say the cowboys about bicycling, quoted by Abbey: Wearing out his legs to
give his ass a ride.
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Philip Williamson
philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:
What would I do with a 96 gear?
- Haul ass.
Philip
the few times I have used 100-inch gear was on rolling hills,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/seco/cseco15.jpg
where I wanted the downhill momentum to help me as far up the next hill as
possible.
On Monday, August 19, 2013 8:27:35 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
My
So, I have decided that I cannot part with my late wife's Betty Foy which
means its destined to become my commuter after a repaint and modifications,
which means I have to sell one of my two beloved bikes in order to fund its
rebuild.
One is being set up as a longdistance hill climber, the
I should have said that White Industries *freewheels* are rebuildable--their
hubs may be, too, but I was referring to their freewheels.
Eric N
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On Aug 19, 2013, at 7:18 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
I agree.
For both the reasons Eric mentions -- direct in high, sturdier mechs -- I
am leaning toward the S3X with a freewheel.
Too bad no one makes a 3sp hub gear that gives you direct in high, a 15%
reduction, then a 30% reduction -- is that even possible given the inherent
limits in epicyclic gear
I agree. I've been successfully riding my Quickbeam with a 3-speed setup that
has a top end of about 74 inches. As Ron notes, the only time I generally need
a gear higher than that is when I'm going downhill, and then I just coast.
Regarding equipment choice, I would counsel finding a setup
On 08/19/2013 10:23 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
For both the reasons Eric mentions -- direct in high, sturdier mechs
-- I am leaning toward the S3X with a freewheel.
Too bad no one makes a 3sp hub gear that gives you direct in high, a
15% reduction, then a 30% reduction -- is that even possible
Eric wrote:
The main problem I've noticed on the Shimano dynohubs is the tendency for the
connection to go bad. On my wife's bike usually means taking a small knife and
removing the oxidation on the connector. Eventually it will be a problem.
That's one advantage the SON has.
To which I
That's the point. A direct drive #2 gear with a 33% increase to high, as
with the AW, leaves you -- at least, it leaves me -- with a high gear that
is for practical purposes of no use, and a higher low gear than I would
like. Now that would be no problem if indirect gears on the AW had minimal
The 25km turned into 41km, the longest one day ride I've ever taken. I
bonked around km 30 (not enough food and not enough sleep the night
before), but the Betty Foy still felt great.
On Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:09:47 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
They said the bike made them smile whenever they
Stupid phone- Should have signed off:
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On Sunday, August 18, 2013 6:02:16 PM UTC-7, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote:
More dirt and single track to follow. Has anyone here ridden an Atlantis
(or all rounder) on The White Rim Trail in Canyonlands NP? I'm thinking
that it would be a good steed for that with a possible tire change
On 08/19/2013 10:32 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
That's the point. A direct drive #2 gear with a 33% increase to high,
as with the AW, leaves you -- at least, it leaves me -- with a high
gear that is for practical purposes of no use, and a higher low gear
than I would like. Now that would be no
Your best bet is to call Rivendell for advice, I'm sure they will help you
out and they know their stuff cold.
Matt
On Saturday, August 17, 2013 1:57:54 PM UTC-4, Dick Combs wrote:
Anybody tell me the recommended PBH range for a 56 cm Heron
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Jim, I believe Kostman''s bike was the 1st Riv AR. Beautiful bike and a
beautiful ride.
my friend rode the WR on a rigid 29er. He did in one day just for the
challenge. I think 3 days sounds about right.
~mike
On Monday, August 19, 2013 7:52:18 AM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:
On Sunday,
Slightly OT, but I posted this to the Lifestyle list with no response.
I'll be flying cross country to the Bay area in OCT and am considering
bringing a bike in an eBike Box.
Does anyone have experience with this container? How large a bike will it
hold? How many trips can you expect to
If you just want to research a bit then the Internet archive wayback machine is
your friend.
http://web.archive.org/web/20040614161905/http://www.heronbicycles.com/
Dan
On Aug 19, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Matt Beebe matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:
Your best bet is to call Rivendell for advice, I'm
My guess would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 81-83cm though.But
call Riv.
Matt
On Saturday, August 17, 2013 1:57:54 PM UTC-4, Dick Combs wrote:
Anybody tell me the recommended PBH range for a 56 cm Heron
Thanks
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This should help. Depends a bit on the model.
http://web.archive.org/web/20040610063840/http://www.heronbicycles.com/sizing.html
Dan
On Aug 19, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Matt Beebe matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:
Your best bet is to call Rivendell for advice, I'm sure they will help you
out and
DougP, I saw that article and was quite inspired. I also pondered doing
that trip on my Homer, maybe in 2014 if the Riv Jamboree doesn't
materialize. My Hetres do well on most gravel, but loose stuff is tedious.
I guess there's plenty of time to sort out tire selection.
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Nothing magic about them, but they meet my needs. Made in the USA for a
fair wage, sold at a fair price, well designed with a function-first
approach, comfortable and not fussy, as good or better off the bike as on,
made from colors found in nature, good for swimming, sailing, running, or
just
I agree. Non-padded Swobo brand is also just as comfy. I can't stand padded
shorts. Too hot and sweaty. Same with gel or padded saddles. I've never
suffered any problems using ordinary shorts, undies, and a non-padded leather
saddle, regardless of outside temps. I can and do spend a couple of
Yes! Sounds fantastic. Imagine that--a bicycle that inspires you to go the
long way.
Also, never forget:
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:)
cc
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.comwrote:
The 25km turned into 41km, the longest one day ride
I just got back from a (fast!!! On the gofast.) 22 mile out and back on the
flat, smooth Rio Grande bike trail (with a 1 mile detour to drop off my
daughter's tennis racquet at her nearby school). I wore a pair of good
quality, flat-seamed cotton shorts over a pair of slinky and baggy nylon
Kostman did the 24 hour on an X0-1; the All Rounder came later.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Mike Schiller
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Jim, I believe Kostman''s bike was the 1st Riv AR. Beautiful bike and a
beautiful ride.
my friend rode the WR on a rigid 29er. He did in one day
Ha! For a slow food bike tour, there were plenty of other people who
wanted to ride faster too. :)
On Monday, August 19, 2013 10:35:46 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:
Yes! Sounds fantastic. Imagine that--a bicycle that inspires you to go the
long way.
Also, never forget:
Michael:
My Atlantis has done a bit of traveling, both by air by ground. While
I'm not familiar with the box you reference, I can offer some thoughts in
general.
Within the US, look into shipping your bike ahead of time via ground
service. Great Debate about who to use: Fed Ex or UPS;
Get the Betty. I have a 47 and my daughter has a 50 but I can ride that
one too since it's a mixte. Either one will work.
On Saturday, August 17, 2013 5:58:59 PM UTC-4, cbone97 wrote:
Just thought I'd check in case anyone might have one they've considered
parting with. My Sam is on the
One of the things I'm discovering with each passing day is how my
previously held ideas about what made a bicycle comfortable are being
smashed to bits by the Betty Foy. I had a heavy Dutch bike until March of
this year. I loved it, but it was slow. That bike convinced me that slow
and
I could make this at home and reheat @ site. Let me know if you guy's would
be into this. I have a small soft insulated cooler which should keep it
fresh.
http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/turkey-black-bean-chili-5040109252/ Also
don't know if anyone has diet restrictions.
~Hugh
On Sun, Aug
It's funny, I like the MUSA shorts, especially for touring and around the
camp. But I also find them pretty PUFFY and a bit short. Maybe it's
because I'm 5'6 and 140ish pounds (i.e. thinnish). Conversely my Rapha
touring shorts are a bit too longish though nice. I'm like goldilocks
looking for
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Carbon blades are the only reason to get Opinel knives that I can see,
other than good value for a stainless blade. Carbon holds a sharper edge
than stainless, but requires actual care (oiling as needed) to prevent rust.
Amen, sister! Isn't it a revelation to finally ride a bike that is properly set
up as well as being well designed to efficiently translate your effort into
motion? Grant-designed bikes seem to do that exceptionally well.
Patrick Moore
iPhone
On Aug 19, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Cecily Walker
I'm told that some airlines are more bike friendly (Southwest, maybe
others) but have no personal knowledge of their rates limitations
Just to chime in on this one topic. I was just researching Southwest and
their boxed bike fee was raised from $50 to $75 as of February 2013.
That's their
Hey Rex. Near as I can tell, you disagreed with me then essentially
repeated what I'd said. So I disagree that we disagree and agree that we
agree. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, August 19, 2013 2:03:58 PM UTC-6, Rex Kerr wrote:
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Deacon Patrick
took the pelican out for a quick ride today and and in love with the fit,
so the roadeo is the one to sell, I am will to part out that build as
follows
Frame/Fork/HS $1500 plus shipping
Cockpit including shifters/lever and cables $150 plus shipping
Brakes $50 plus shipping
Deraileurs $100
Seatpost is gone. Bump again if you take everything minus the wheels its
still $2100, the wheels will have ton be shipped separately anyways. I'll
throw in a used seatpost with the frame purchase.
On Monday, August 19, 2013 4:43:42 PM UTC-4, Trevor saxton wrote:
took the pelican out for a
Thanks for the tip. Will buy some and give it a go.
On Aug 19, 2013 9:43 AM, M D Smith bee...@gmail.com wrote:
Stupid phone- Should have signed off:
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On Monday, August 19, 2013 4:03:58 PM UTC-4, Rex Kerr wrote:
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Carbon blades are the only reason to get Opinel knives that I can see,
other than good value for a stainless blade. Carbon holds a sharper edge
Price lowered to $2600
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On Monday, August 19, 2013 3:04:27 PM UTC-4, Cecily Walker wrote:
One of the things I'm discovering with each passing day is how my
previously held ideas about what made a bicycle comfortable are being
smashed to bits by the Betty Foy.
This pretty much sums up the Rivendell experience.
Cecily,
In your original post you said the Betty met all your expectations. I read
that and thought, just wait for it. It won't be long and those expectations
will be blown out the water. Delighted they are being blown out the water!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, August 19, 2013 1:04:27 PM
:-) Thanks. I am a randonneur, so food is definitely important. My Riv
WAS my rando bike until I tried to ride further than 300k on it - top tube
is too long and my shoulders give it up. Painfully.
I'm ok, really, unless you all want to come out to the west side; lots of
backroads here.
I just bought a pair of the blowout long MUSA's. Figure they may be good
for the fall/winter with something warm under them.
Thanks for the info.
I may try the shorts if I see them on clearance, too.
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You go girl:)
Amazing how bikes can set us free
Congrats...the Bett's a beaut and you do look very happy on it.
Happy trails
On Monday, August 19, 2013 2:04:27 PM UTC-5, Cecily Walker wrote:
One of the things I'm discovering with each passing day is how my
previously held ideas about
shorts are gone, pants are on hold.
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$40! Someone who loves chacos take these.
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Correction: what I called boxers are actually boxer briefs, a nuance that
probably makes a fundamental difference after a day on the road. Microweight
Merino wool under Musa shorts, in any case...
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I could bring disposable bowls and spoons for all if we elect to go with
Hugh's chili offer.
On Monday, August 19, 2013, Hugh Smitham wrote:
I could make this at home and reheat @ site. Let me know if you guy's
would be into this. I have a small soft insulated cooler which should keep
it
I bought a Dahon speed TR specifically for travel. I've had varying
degrees of luck with oversize but the 50lb rule has always been hard and
fast. On trips to Hawaii it's either reduced or eliminated the need for a
rental car so any airline fees are offset.
On Monday, August 19, 2013 1:17:58
My vote is with the plan that cyclotourist proposed. Seems we are close to
eating establishments so why not? I do understand the fun of cooking in
camp, but when restaurants are close by and local knowledge is among us
restaurants win for me. However, if some are set for camp cooking I can do
After studying a Riv Reader report of their side-by-side drag test on
then-current Shimano and SON hubs, I purchased a SON28 x Velocity Synergy
36h wheel from Rich Lesnik, and it's performed beautifully
for several 1500mi+ riding seasons. Not many miles off-road, but I hop
curbs and
I have a post -Riv era 57cm Heron Touring and my PBH as measured by
Rivendell is 83.5cm. Fits me real good! A 56cm would of been fine as well
and for a short time I had a Riv-era 56cm Heron Road, but I decided I
wanted to fit a fatter tire.
-Dave
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I could bring a 56cm to the Atlantis Party!
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I'm with Curtis, Doug David lets do dinner out.
~Hugh
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Curtis McKenzie cmcy...@gmail.com wrote:
My vote is with the plan that cyclotourist proposed. Seems we are close
to eating establishments so why not? I do understand the fun of cooking in
camp, but
I, too, could bring a 56
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Bumping this topic. My vote is for Bay Area, because this would be the
first national jamboree, and it's Riv's 20th anniversary. I volunteer to
help, too. Is anyone counting votes.
jim m
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They are puffy short. I can handle puffy, but I'd like another 4 or
so of leg. YMMV.
On 8/19/13, Addison Wilhite addisonwilh...@gmail.com wrote:
It's funny, I like the MUSA shorts, especially for touring and around the
camp. But I also find them pretty PUFFY and a bit short. Maybe it's
Too much longer and they become longs rather than shorts. Grin.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/9422980161/
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, August 19, 2013 7:22:27 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
They are puffy short. I can handle puffy, but I'd like another 4 or
so of leg.
Excellent. Dinner out.
On Monday, August 19, 2013, Hugh Smitham wrote:
I'm with Curtis, Doug David lets do dinner out.
~Hugh
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My vote is with the plan that
They become shpants!
http://youtu.be/jyIustn3C8k
Revisiting an old favorite!
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Is the voting window open? If so mark me down for SF. Would be willing to
help or sponsor an event such as a slow bicycle race. PDX would be second
for me.
On Monday, August 19, 2013, Jim M. wrote:
Bumping this topic. My vote is for Bay Area, because this would be the
first national
Dinner out on the town it is... now where? Pizza Port is just Ok. Good beer
but avg. pizza... any other ideas?
~mike
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Sonny's Pizza and Pasta is one of my all-time faves... they know how
to cook with garlic!
Carbonara is great as well, but a touch on the fancy side for a bunch
of sweaty bike campers.
I love Pizza Port. Good salads and I'm happy with their pizzas. And
did anyone say beer?
On 8/19/13, Mike
I'll recuse myself from the vote as I'm not likely to be able to attend,
but wherever it is it out to be a blast and I'll definitely wish I was able
to be there.
With abandon,
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Since I've never eaten dinner in San Clemente, I'll defer to David's
experience. Sonny's looks good to me. Agree with Mike that Pizza Port is
great beer but the food is typical tourist.
dougP
On Monday, August 19, 2013 7:02:56 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
Sonny's Pizza and Pasta
looked at Sonnys... well maybe Pizza Port is looking better.
~mike
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For what it's worth, I don't notice any drag on my AW - But I might not
recognize it, even if it bit me in the butt :.)
The part of your question I don't understand is the specific numbers you
give. Wouldn't those vary, depending on chainring and rear sprocket? I've
got sprockets in
Hugh's turkey chili looks delicious, and I don't want to dis him, but I
really don't want to burden him with portaging it down from Irvine on his
bike.
Google maps indicates a 3.6 mile
Yes, I rode it although I am not bragging how awesome I am (see above
poison oak note for reference). The first time was in 2010 on my 6 month
old Hillborne with the original 35mm Panaracer Paselas and was, umm...,
interesting. 50mm Schwalbe Duremes were better, but the rear wheel lost
Sounds like we have the making of a shindig... :) I get most of my
recreational rides in on weekend mornings before 11 or noonish. I've got
some work travel coming up but maybe we can stick a dart in a Sept
weekend...? How does 14 or 15 Sep work for you guys? As far as location
I'm up for
Re. Sonny's: Good food, great atmosphere, patio dining, cheap wine carafes!
Re. locks: All the places I can think of have parking w/in eyesight
out front. I'll bring a cable lock which can lock three or four bikes
together. If a few other bring the same, we should be able to lock all
8-9 bikes up
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