In regards to tubing of any bike , focusing on tube sizes/dimensions and
quality of the steel is okay to putter around, but it overlooks the fact
that a bike frame is One Whole unit , Complete . It's not just the
tubes, but every detail of it from design, material, shape and bending of
tubes
Yes , Wheels are an Investment. As important as the frame , to me. And a
good wheel is only as good as it's weakest part .
I've always used FW's and am not sure if I'll ever use a cassette hub or
not. To me the FW system is preferred because of it independence . The FW
mechanism, often
http://www.dogpoweredscooter.com/
There's a person in our neighborhood that I've seen using one of these with
his husky. The dog appears to love it. Of course while trying to find
their website, I also came across this:
I had some questions about the Clem for Keven about the 59cm. Clem that
he graciously answered for me and thought I'd pass them along .
1. The head/front end(top of the head tube) on the Clem is virtually
identical in height as my 60cm. Bombadil .
2. The top tube is 61cm-ish . That's
I've heard of lots of owners of pulling breeds doing this. It's hard for
these dogs to learn to walk at a human pace, they just love to pull. But
you'd still have to train them to obey on the harness, as your friend
learned.
I've also heard it's recommended to use disc or drum brakes, because
Like PB, I've struggled to get comfortable on the Noodles. I like the fact
that the brake levers can be installed in such a way that leads to a more
or less flat ramp from the tops of the bar bend down to the lever hoods.
But, since they're basically a randennour (sp? design, they have this
I commute a couple of miles on a very dusty, dirt and gravel trail so I am
finding the need to clean at least the drivetrain a lot more than I was
used to in the past (when I lived near Sunnyvale). The bike starts to
squeak if I don't. One thing that was recommended to me by a friend who
I tried it for about a second-and-a-half. For me the curves are very wrong
and nowhere close to comfortable. I love my Albastaches, so the two are not
anywhere close to similar.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 8:22:40 AM UTC-6, Surlyprof wrote:
I have been wanting to
Might need to re-subscribe? http://www.rivbike.com/Articles.asp?ID=327
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 5:39:06 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote:
Through Bill's tough bike to love thread, I just realized that I'd
missed this month's and last month's Rivendell *Monthly Update* emails.
Seems a few
There are pics on the Blug... http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 6:40:11 PM UTC-4, A. L Young wrote:
Are there headbadge photos somewhere? A man-hole cover seems to come to
mind for the Clem Jr. (Btw, do an image search for man hole cover - it's
surprisingly
Given my Hunq has a dig or two in the middle of the tubes, I'm thankful for
Grant's bucking of the market on this one!
With abandon,
Patrick
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I have been wanting to change out the cockpit from the Albatross that came
with the bike to an Albastache. I used to have a Mustache bar and loved
it. Unfortunately, the discretionary funds are not there right now (home
repairs, etc). As a temporary measure, I thought about flipping the
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 10:22:40 AM UTC-4, Surlyprof wrote:
I have been wanting to change out the cockpit from the Albatross that came
with the bike to an Albastache. I used to have a Mustache bar and loved
it. Unfortunately, the discretionary funds are not there right now (home
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 4:42:55 PM UTC-4, Mike Schiller wrote:
The difference is about 7 oz for a 60 cm bike ( the .8 mm straight tube
weighs more). But the bike will also be stiffer riding as a butted tube is
more flexible. But since the diameter is smaller the increase in stiffness
Wow, a 64 cm Clementine would be ace, especially if the fit was like a 64 cm
Bombadil. For me it's perfect with a 150 mm bullmoose bar (not bosco) but I
guess I have a short reach. I don't really need another bike but I would love
an enormous stepthrough, so I'd be in anyway!
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Is the geometry posted anywhere yet? This look's like it would be a great
kid-hauler.
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An epic ride! Well done! And a very enjoyable write up. Thanks for
sharing.
On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 11:07:47 AM UTC-4, Mark Reimer wrote:
The weather has finally been creeping above the freezing point for the
first time in almost five months, so I
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Thanks for sharing Garth. What is your height/PBH?
Incidentally, I sent Keven some questions regarding my fit on a 59cm Clem
last night, waiting to hear his thoughts on it. The TT value you mention
certainly is shorter than I would prefer as well.
Maybe they'll make a embiggened Clem too,
Liz,
I'm pretty sure the detailed specs are no secret, but this is moving pretty
fast and the geometry specs simply aren't widely disseminated yet even
among the employees. For example, I have sizing questions and we are
waiting until Friday when they are all built to set seat heights and take
Trying to sell this as a complete build now. I am narrowing the herd and
hoping to get some funds for a clem before the sale ends!!!
I have a nice Gunnar Crosshairs with a 55.5cm effective top tube. This is
the original run of the crosshairs with 1 threadless headset and a
beautifully curved
Lucky you!
I tried to get geometry information on the smallest Clem and Clementine and
the person I spoke to effectively refused to give it to me.
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On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 9:12:25 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
I had some questions about the Clem for Keven about the 59cm. Clem
yeah, also tried it for about an hour. really didnt like it. the curves and
the amount/closeness/width of where it drops felt super wonky.
interestingly, i have some VO upright bars that have a much more subtle
rise and dont curve back as much. i like those a lot when upside down.
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About setting up a long mountain bike: we have 1 long mountain bike, '87
Schwinn sierra, and one short mtb, '90 BstoneMB-1, and I have ridden same
rugged trail -/+ 300' elevation on both. The long one feels stable going down
fast, more work going back up. The short one feels easy to handle,
Thanks for the research, Garth. does anybody know how Rivendell
usually cites their top tube measurements? Actual or effective? An
actual 61cm top tube with a 6 degree slope and a 71 degree head tube would
seem to be equivalent to about 62.86 cm (24 3/4) horizontal (effective)
top tube.
Does anyone know if the large complete Clem shown on the blog (green, with
a foam-stuffed saddle) is a 52 or a 59?
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 11:30:27 AM UTC-5, James Warren wrote:
Whether Riv's listed TT's are actual or effective has varied a bit, but I
think the recent pattern has
Whether Riv's listed TT's are actual oreffective has varied a bit, but I think the recent pattern has been consistent: recently, it has been the case that the 6 degree bikes list effective TT's when they are ina chart. I remember an early Hillborne chart listing both actual and effective, but as
Nice... Coming together nicely.
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May try a 6cm Tallux, or 44 Noodles, or both?
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Dave davele...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey folks,
Looking for some advice on my newly installed 46cm Nitto Noodle (swapped out
Albatross bars). PBH of 84, a little over 5'8, riding a 57cm AHH. I
installed the Noodle
I'll echo the sentiments , just plain odd feeling, and not in a good way
!
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Oh yes, bike fit to me is quite personal . Yes, there are generalities
and not only is every body form different, but so is flexibility/function
of that form, and the ever so infinite intangibles , called feel or
sense of unity and balance with the bike , etc . Based on body shape
alone
http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2010/04/upside-down.html
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 10:22:40 AM UTC-4, Surlyprof wrote:
I have been wanting to change out the cockpit from the Albatross that came
with the bike to an Albastache. I used to have a Mustache bar and loved
it. Unfortunately,
I may finally be catching up with Grant on the sleeping bag front. I’d long ago
cast aside synthetic bags as bulky, heavy, and stinky after a wee bit of time.
But after last year we had to wash my down bag (requiring us to do it at home
without a dryer to avoid the scents inherent in laundromat
On 03/18/2015 07:05 PM, David wrote:
I'm curious what the group's opinion or preference is (and why)
regarding barcon cable routing. AFAIK, on the one hand, you can do it
the RBW (or, traditional) way where the cables shoot out the front of
the drops after just a few rounds of tape concealing
René,
Congrats on rejoining the bike/train commuters of the bay area. Good to
see your Atlantis (and you) reborn. If you are still encountering problems
with pressure on your hands and are seeking to get even more upright, I
have a 55cm Bosco Bar and thumbies you could try (although your new
Mine is big, with Big Apple tires, so space is tighter in my suitcase.
Looking forward to seeing the photos.
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
not cut in half even. The bike is little (I'm 5'2) but it has 451 wheels,
not 406's. I'll take a photo of it in its case and
They had one of those in SoCal when I was a kid in '50s. It was used for a
lot promotions.
dougP
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 4:21:50 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
it's like the wildlife thread—only different!
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On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:29 PM, WETH erlhous...@gmail.com wrote:
Congratulations! So glad it was an enjoyable commute. The sunrise photo
is beautiful.
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On 03/18/2015 06:29 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
I may finally be catching up with Grant on the sleeping bag front. I’d
long ago cast aside synthetic bags as bulky, heavy, and stinky after a
wee bit of time. But after last year we had to wash my down bag
(requiring us to do it at home without a
You no longer live in the SF Bay Area? It's a great trail, to commute on.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Kellie kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote:
Great photos! I used to ride that trail at the other end near Alviso.
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 4:58:58 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
After
Awesome, René! I am so glad you are getting out again. It is fun to
discover and rediscover anew, aye?
With abandon,
Patrick
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I belong to the under-the-tape, up-to-the-stem school. Tidier. Always out
of the way. Friction not an issue. If desired, and if there is no
other conflict, like a bottle cage mounted under the down tube, you can run
the housings to the opposite (wrong) down tube stops, and then cross the
Thanks John,
I have several bars that I can continue to try, including the Bosco
Bullmoose and the regular Bosco in several widths, as well as the
smaller/narrower Nitto Promenade bars. I figure I'll try to keep riding and
see how it goes, and what sort of minor adjustments (or major) seem to
Hey René, no planning needed because it's already done! I've packed the
Friday several times with the boscos in its suitcase! in fact, everything
in that photo fits in the case. My whole reason for having the Friday is to
take it with me when I fly to visit distant family or go to attend a
Wow. Were the bars cut in half, or they just fit in the suitcase? I have
the BF Hbars that they cut in half and work well, but I would have never
thought the Bosco bars could go so well on a BF. Next time you travel, send
me a photo of your packed bike so I can see how you fit them in.
Traveling
+1 on a great atlantis and boscos as good solutions to soreness. For me it
was neck issues. Boscos have been great with *lots* of hand positions.
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Anton-
The original XT M-730 spindle is offset 4 mm to the drive side. Do I use
~4mm of bottom bracket spacers? Or do I split the difference and use ~2 mm?
Tim Gavin
Cedar Rapids, IA
On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 7:50:22 PM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote:
Depends. The new VO BB will be
The first photo is particularly pretty. Good for you!
Patrick Moore, who wants to have his '03 Curt painted Atlantis teal or aqua
or whatever it is.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:58 PM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
After doing a couple of rides during the weekend, today I finally had
I'd have to agree with Steve. I've done it both ways more than a couple of
times with Shimano and Suntour barcons. Indexed or friction not enough
difference to matter IMO.
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 6:10:26 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 03/18/2015 07:05 PM, David wrote:
I'm
Thanks Patrick. I may need a reminder to send you the photo with the
ColorPassport so you can check the exact color... so make sure you remind
me if I haven't done it when you're ready to go to the painter.
René
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
The
I have two nearly identical Hillbornes (2010 and 2012). For me, the
advantages are
1. redundancy - in case I want to tinker with one, the other remains
rideable without any compromise in enjoyment
2. winter readiness - when appropriate, one Hillborne has studded tires
all the time
Thanks for the feedback, Steve.
It would make running a front bag less messy if the barcon shift
cables were run to the stem...
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On 03/18/2015 07:05 PM, David wrote:
I'm curious what the group's opinion or preference is
After doing a couple of rides during the weekend, today I finally had the
chance (and will) to wake up at 5:00 AM to catch the early morning train to
San Jose and bike to work. It's so lovely when you see the sun rise during
your morning commute...
Then rode back to catch the train in San Jose
I dunno, that’s pretty wild.
Did anyone else immediately have the jingle start playing in their head as soon
as they saw the photo?
On Mar 18, 2015, at 6:21 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
it's like the wildlife thread—only different!
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Great looking Bike Friday! With the Bosco bars it looks great, but I assume
you aren't planning to pack it in its suitcase, are you? Just fold it to
store or transport in the trunk of the car?
It would be interesting to take the best fitting Nitto bars and cut them
and prep them so they can be
Completed bikes now posted on the Blug!!
It looks like the 52cm would work for me!! I did a quick mock-up in
BikeCad, using some stats from other RBW 650B bikes and some eyeball
guesses. It would be a longer haul because I would have to buy a frameset
AND new wheels but it's something I'll
Thanks, Steve. Yes, we consulted with Feathered Friends (who made my down
bag) and did the we don't have a dryer version of that. The hood is lumpy
because it needs more soap and agitation. The rest of the bag turned out
great, but having to fuss about moisture in the field, regardless of time
I'm curious what the group's opinion or preference is (and why) regarding
barcon cable routing. AFAIK, on the one hand, you can do it the RBW (or,
traditional) way where the cables shoot out the front of the drops after
just a few rounds of tape concealing the cables, or you can keep the
There's a third way: Don't wrap it under any tape at all. Install your
shifters and run your cables after your bars are taped and shellacked.
That's what I would call the RBW way.
My Bombadil is run the RBW way, no tape over, and it's fine. Shimano 8sp
index
My Homer has a right barcon
Great photos! I used to ride that trail at the other end near Alviso.
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 4:58:58 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
After doing a couple of rides during the weekend, today I finally had the
chance (and will) to wake up at 5:00 AM to catch the early morning train to
San Jose
That is so right Patrick!
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Awesome, René! I am so glad you are getting out again. It is fun to
discover and rediscover anew, aye?
With abandon,
Patrick
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Theoretically yes, you'd use 4mm of spacers, but that may be too much to be
able to safely thread the BB in sufficiently into the BB shell. I've
spaced out BBs before, but never more than 2mm. So you may have to live
with an symmetrical cartridge just spaced +2mm. Maybe others have spaced
Thanks; I will ask once I'm ready to paint. I forgot it was you whom I
talked with earlier about the Atlantis color.
Enjoy your rides!
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:26 PM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Patrick. I may need a reminder to send you the photo with the
ColorPassport
Still in the Bay Area, but now East Bay in North Oakland.
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 5:24:12 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
You no longer live in the SF Bay Area? It's a great trail, to commute on.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Kellie kellie.s...@gmail.com
javascript: wrote:
Great photos!
not cut in half even. The bike is little (I'm 5'2) but it has 451 wheels,
not 406's. I'll take a photo of it in its case and post it
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Yes. The Boscos took care of my neck pain. Not entirely of the hands,
although they certainly made quite an improvement over the drop bars.
I remember having lots of hand pain with the Moustache bars, but that was
when I was just beginning, so probably lots of positioning issues. Would be
Just last month, the Wienermobile ran into some trouble just a few
miles from me here in Central PA:
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2015/02/oscar_mayer_wienermobile_crash.html
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
it's like the wildlife thread—only different!
I have one bike on which I opted to try the free as can be method of just
a few turns of the tape. I haven't really sensed any benefit, in fact I
find the loosey-goosey housings distracting while moving hand positions.
Both of my others have the housing running under tape along the flat of the
That close to Pittsburgh, it's too bad it didn't run into a Heinz ketchup
truck!
John (a previous Pittsburgh resident)
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 5:18:22 PM UTC-7, Mark Wilkins wrote:
Just last month, the Wienermobile ran into some trouble just a few
miles from me here in Central PA:
Congratulations! So glad it was an enjoyable commute. The sunrise photo is
beautiful.
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Thanks Doug. When waiting for the train, sometimes the light is
wonderful... :-)
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:48 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
Rene:
Good to see your photos again. I recall your posts as you built up new
bikes, and the train station seemed a common (and appropriate)
That looks very nice. It does look like it was designed that way!
Philip
www.biketinker.com
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dougP,
Darn you. It entered my head. I wish I was an Oscar Meyer
Wiener...Everyone would be in love with me.
I am attacking back.
A horse is a horse, of course, of course,
And no one can talk to a horse of course
That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mr. Ed.
Just try and
this may not work with down
down is not a best choice usually for the PNW
so i dont reccomend or not reccomend for down
But i bought a home extractor which pulls a huge amount of
rinsewater, leftover soap and dye out of wet clothes
cuts drying time
and clothes last way longer
driers are hard on
That sounds interesting! I'd like to check out the links, if you're able to
post them.
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015, bo richardson borus...@gmail.com wrote:
this may not work with down
down is not a best choice usually for the PNW
so i dont reccomend or not reccomend for down
But i bought a
Having an extra bike for friends is a great reason. My brother in law came
to California and rode my 650b Ram, which was two sizes too small. I
cranked up the seat post and stem and he said it is the best bike he ever
rode. He has a Sam on order! I rode my Homer.
A couple pics of the Riv
I've tried it both ways, and I'm happier running it up to the stem. I didn't
like the housing exiting the bar in the grip zone.
Both my bar end bikes have the full wrap now. The most recent setup is just the
right shifter, but I need to move the cable a bit where it passes the hood,
since it
I've routed the cables where they exit just at the end of flat part, out
around the brake hoods, and all the way up near the stem. It never seemed
to matter to shifting. The various locations were to deal with different
front bags.
dougP
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-7,
Rene:
Good to see your photos again. I recall your posts as you built up new
bikes, and the train station seemed a common (and appropriate) location.
Something about here with my bike waiting for the train... that's
just neat. Glad you're back to biking to work, too.
dougP
On
Joe,
I'm not the Angry Asian although I'm Asian and occasionally angry. :)
The process I was taught is simple and will become fast with practice. This
process is essentially what pro mechanics use since this was taught to me
by an ex-pro (and they have to clean the entire team's bikes after
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 6:57:50 AM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
Far and away the most comfortable bars I've ever owned are the Ritchey
BioMax.
Yes. Agreed. Homely, but very ergonomic.
These truly were an ergonomic innovation, but evidently the strange look
didn't sell
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 11:37:21 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote:
I'm 'bout 6'2 with a PBH of 'bout 36.5 . Yes, I was under the impression
that the 59 would be longer than it was also I was kinda expecting
it to be really long and tall in the front also . The 59 Clem isn't long
KJ, I'm 'bout 6'2 with a PBH of 'bout 36.5 . Yes, I was under the
impression that the 59 would be longer than it was also . The 63cm TT on
the Bomba is about perfect for me with Albatross bars .
Speaking of peachy ... wouldn't a Peach colored bike be awesome ?! That's
a color I never see .
I'm going to contradict the negative posts below: I have a Soma Oxford
(basically, an Alba copy) on my 650B-ized Trek, and I like it quite a bit
flipped. You can see it here:
http://www.bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2014/12/trek-620-650b-conversion.html
Actually, I like it a lot better flipped than
Like many of the others who have already responded, the key to finding
comfort with the Noodle for me was finding the right stem length. On my
60cm Ram, it was a 9cm Nitto Deluxe (similar to the Tallux). Full
disclosure, earlier this year I replace the Noodle on that bike with an
Albastache
Two years ago I posted an epiphany about a way to attach a Gino light mount
to a Nitto M18 or Mark's rack .
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/S4O98dttMNs
Very recently completed a Rivish upright on a Viner cross frame - it
required a lugged Nitto seatpost to get the
Jim , I found this recommendation for the Sam from the past when they
offered the 64cm size :
94-101cm PBH = 64cm
That's for a top tubed bikes bike however .
Using the Cheviot as a guide , it's says :
*60cm*
*TYPICAL RIDER HEIGHTS: women 5'6 1//2 to 6'2, men about 5'8.5 to
6'3.PBH 84 to
I guess around 100 cm since that's what they recommend(ed) for the 64
Sam/Bomba...? I'm PBH 100 but only 6'5 and a 64 Bomba works for me with
bullmoose bars, but maybe wouldn't with swept back bars.
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Hi Dave,
Some good suggestions in this thread.
To go in another direction: how do you feel in the drops?
I have 48-cm Noodles on my AHH, and paired it with a 10-cm stem in my parts
box. The bars feel great on the ramps and in the hooks and drops. The hoods
feel a bit far for me. (I used this
You guys all rock with your suggestions. I haven't gotten to ride this
week to try out your suggestions, but I'll certainly report back. I do
have a dirt drop style stem that can give me shorter reach than I have
currently...
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 1:20:25 PM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi
If a 64cm Clementine is built, what would be the max recommended PBH?
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:
I had some questions about the Clem for Keven about the 59cm. Clem that he
graciously answered for me and thought I'd pass them along .
1. The head/front
Does anyone else find it amusing that these low-end Rivs ended up so pretty?
The original plan was for matte paint jobs to disguise them as beater bikes.
Rivendell is physically/spiritually incapable of making an ugly bike :)
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