[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Rosco Road

Sorry I spaced out on that one. How tall are you and what is your PBH? On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 9:08:36 PM UTC-5, Gabriel Bruguier wrote: > > Geeter-- the attached photo of the geo is from Rivendell, and as far as I > know is the most information available out there. > > On Friday, August

Re: [RBW] 59 vs. 52 Clem L

I think Joe's right about choosing on the basis of the effective top tube. I've got a 59 clementine set up for a child front seat w stock boscobars and i use a lugged nitto seatpost pushed all the way back. 6'2" but c a shorter pbh of 88-89. I'd think the larger size would work better, but I'm

[RBW] 200 miles on 10 bikes, an essentially pointless self-challenge

Fantastic challenge, and looking forward to the occasional report. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] 59 vs. 52 Clem L

Ugh, I wish I could edit these things. My first H was 45cm, now I'm getting a 52 L. And I missed that you're building up a frame, not buying complete. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] 59 vs. 52 Clem L

My comparison won't be exact, but maybe it can help you think about it. I was in range but on the taller end of a Clem H and it ended up being to cramped with Choco-Moose and Albatross bars..it *definitely* wouldn't have worked with Boscos. Later I rode a 52 H with Boscos at RBW and it was

[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Rosco Road

Geeter-- the attached photo of the geo is from Rivendell, and as far as I know is the most information available out there. On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 8:55:59 PM UTC-5, Geeter wrote: > > Can you give some more geo info or show me a link to it? > -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Rosco Road

Ian-- I have a pair of 50mm SKS's that fit on a Cross Check with BG Rock n Roads, but they will not fit on this frame with the Cazaderos. I used a set of SKS clip ons for the wet stuff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Rosco Road

Can you give some more geo info or show me a link to it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: 54cm Saluki - Front Center Measurement

Hiro Thanks for the FC measurement. I woul have NO TCO problems with a 54cm Saluki or AHH. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 8:30:58 PM UTC-4, Hiro Shimizu wrote: > My 54cm AHH has 60.2cm. It is a Toyo made. > > Hiro > > 2017年8月4日金曜日 23時59分22秒 UTC+9 John Hawrylak: >> >>

[RBW] Re: why so many joe's up for sale?

Peter asked me to explain what I find unique about the Joe Appaloosa. I think it's self-evident, but ok List all the loaded touring bikes purpose built for upright bars, designed to take 29x2.0 tires plus fenders, with >50 cm chainstays. There is one bike on that list. Bill -- You

[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto 32R rear rack

The medium ones have the little loop-like thing right above the bottom attachment point. If you look on the riv site you can compare the two and you'll see the difference. If yours is the medium, will you report back? I might be in the market for a second one depending on the price.

[RBW] Re: Dyno hub wiring

As others have said, it is generally *not* a good idea to drill out a frame and especially not a fork blade. If you are creative and patient, you can probably find ways to route the cable that do not involve drilling. The one possible exception (but ask Rivendell or an experienced framebuilder

Re: [RBW] Re: Dyno hub wiring

I've bought two French built rando/touring bikes and they both had internal wiring from a hole at the back of the bottom bracket to a small hole just beneath the bottom head lug. The wire was then run through the underside of the fender to the taillight and the front rack mounted headlight,

[RBW] 59 vs. 52 Clem L

I'm on the fence. I can build up a 59 Clem L, but for a 52 I'd need to spring for the wheels. I'm 5' 10", 84 stand over, so I'm close. Can anyone point me in the right direction? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: why so many joe's up for sale?

Hi Bill, can you expand on what you find unique about the bike? Peter On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 11:34:00 PM UTC+2, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Thanks for playing along Stuart. For the record, I think the LHT is a > very good bike. > > I wonder what the resale value of these Rosco Bubbe

[RBW] Re: 54cm Saluki - Front Center Measurement

John It is 60.2cm with My Toyo made 54cm AHH. Hiro 2017年8月4日金曜日 23時59分22秒 UTC+9 John Hawrylak: > > If anyone has a 54cm Saluki or AHH (650B), I would appreciate it if you > could measure and post the Front Center distance, distance from the crank > center to the front axle center. The RBW

[RBW] Re: 54cm Saluki - Front Center Measurement

My 54cm AHH has 60.2cm. It is a Toyo made. Hiro 2017年8月4日金曜日 23時59分22秒 UTC+9 John Hawrylak: > > If anyone has a 54cm Saluki or AHH (650B), I would appreciate it if you > could measure and post the Front Center distance, distance from the crank > center to the front axle center. The RBW specs

[RBW] Re: Roast your own coffee?

Beans arrived from Sweet Maria's today and roasting began as the UPS truck was turning around (entertaining to watch when we get a new driver! Today was our usual guy though. Shrug. Grin.). We've roasted 3 batches so far (we got three types of beans) in our sauce pan with a flat-edged spoon to

[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto 32R rear rack

Curious how one can tell if it's a medium or not? I have an old one sitting in my parts bin I'm willing to sell off. On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:27:08 PM UTC-8, Kieran J wrote: > > Hi All, > > I'm scoping for one of the MED Nitto 32R rear racks, as per below. > Drop me a line if you have

[RBW] Roadini!

I put down for a 57cm in "grilver". Most of the parts that I need are in the parts bin, including noodles, simplex dt shifters, xt mech, Brooks b17, and Herse crankset, so it's going to be a pretty nice build. My Appaloosa has been a fit and comfort revelation for me. But I have missed having a

Re: [RBW] Re: 54cm Saluki - Front Center Measurement

Bill yes, I had it flipped. The 54cm frame moves the BB towards the front vs the 52cm frame. Thanks, I'm going with a 60cm estimated FC John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ -Original Message- From: Bill Lindsay To: RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] 200 miles on 10 bikes, an essentially pointless self-challenge

This is so excellent. Looking forward to seeing the rest of your stable. That Niner is DOPE. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: 200 miles on 10 bikes, an essentially pointless self-challenge

My challenge for today: 5 miles on each roadworthy bike in my stable. In other words, my Bleriot. MET! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: 54cm Saluki - Front Center Measurement

It's the bigger one, the 54 that has the slacker 72 STA. The smaller one, the 52, has a steeper 72.5 STA Maybe that's why you have it flipped? On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 2:31:06 PM UTC-7, John Hawrylak wrote: > > Bill > > I agree with your methodology. I'm a little confused on the 5mm >

[RBW] Re: why so many joe's up for sale?

Hugh Very well stated, thanks for the insights John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: 54cm Saluki - Front Center Measurement

Bill I agree with your methodology. I'm a little confused on the 5mm "adjustment" for the STA difference (72 on 52 and 72,5 on the 54). If the 52cm/72deg TSA shifts it's FC forward, wouldn't the 5mm be ADDED to the 52 FC to get the 54 FC, i.e 54cm FC = 59.0 + 1.5 (TTL delta) + 0.5 (STA

[RBW] Re: Dyno hub wiring

How about transparent helicopter tape? You can buy it off Fleabay and it provides a very clean laydown of the wire. Clay On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 9:54:04 AM UTC-7, Carla Waugh wrote: > > Have any of you drilled holes to run your wire Internally? I'm having it > installed on my Sam.

[RBW] Re: why so many joe's up for sale?

all of this was very well said. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

Thanks for noting the Pass & Stow 3-Rail which also looks like a great option. On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 10:24:06 AM UTC-7, John wrote: > > Hi Michele, > > Out of curiosity, how much weight are you planning on putting on your > front rack? > > I use the Nitto 32F front rack w/ a

[RBW] Re: 200 miles on 10 bikes, an essentially pointless self-challenge

Like self-deprication, self-challenge is never pointless. I challenge myself to improve my self-deprication because I'm a boy among men there. Grin. Enjoy! With abandon, Patrick On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 1:46:26 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I get a six week sabbatical from work from

Re: [RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

Bill thanks for highlighting the 4 point racks which alleviate the risk. I also love that the Nitto 27F has removable pannier extensions, in case I don't need those on a daily basis. I think I'm on the right track now :) On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

[RBW] 200 miles on 10 bikes, an essentially pointless self-challenge

I get a six week sabbatical from work from late August to early October. I had a bike tour plan, but it was going to be solo, so my family nixed that. My wife and kids are all quite busy, and I'm trying to really savor where I live and the blessings I have, so I'm doing a six week

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Appaloosa?

Thanks Patrick and others for the feedback -- it's enormously helpful! Right now my riding is mostly paved and dirt trails with some big hills and occasional rougher trails mixed in, but over time that may change to add some commuting and light touring. I definitely want the option of larger

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Appaloosa?

Hey Stuart, can you explain a little more about your wheel size preferences? I noticed that Riv seems to change wheel size based on frame size, presumably to keep proportions. I also know there's a trend toward 29ers but you seem to prefer the smaller wheel. Just wondering why, that is, how

[RBW] Re: 54cm Saluki - Front Center Measurement

In the absence of a measurement, you could do a rough estimate. Assume we believe that the 52cm 650B Hilsen has a 59cm front center. That's in the geo-chart Let's mutually grumble that there is no front center for the 54 or the 56. Grumble... But the 54 has the identical fork and the

[RBW] Re: why so many joe's up for sale?

I've sold all my Rivendell's excluding my wife's Betty Foy, and that may hit the block too. I'll comment on my reason's for selling which has nothing to do with anyone else's experience with owning then selling their Rivendell's. My first Riv was an A.H.H and that was the last to go because it

[RBW] Re: why so many joe's up for sale?

i've had a lot of rivs over the past year - sam, chev, hunq, joe appaloosa, soma san marcos. for me it was about fit i always seemed to fall right in between. so i sold everything and got a custom. while i was waiting for the custom, i ordered the appaloosa and figured if it doesn't work i can

[RBW] Re: why so many joe's up for sale?

I'd love to have a Scorcher, but they rarely change hands anymore. The bike has become almost a myth. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] FS: Rosco Bubbe 55.5cm Frameset X 2

We have two brand new, never built 55.5cm Rosco Bubbe frame-sets for sale at Rivelo. These are the Waterford-built matte green paint models designed for anyone with a PBH of 89 to 95cm. Includes headset, bottom bracket, and seat post. We're selling them for Riv's last price ($900) *and* will

[RBW] Re: why so many joe's up for sale?

I always thought those Ibis Scorchers were cool-looking bikes when they came out in the 90s On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 6:07:56 AM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > I imagine another factor here is that we are looking at a certain subset > of Rivendell owner, one who belongs to this RBW group.

[RBW] Re: Let's Talk Fenders...

Thanks Jon. I just got them for my Cheviot in silver from Ben's Cycles via Amazon for $47.99 shipped. On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 9:49:28 PM UTC-4, Jon BALER wrote: > Planet bike now has aluminum fenders, which are easy to install. They go > by 'alx' and come in silver in 65mm -- You

[RBW] 54cm Saluki - Front Center Measurement

If anyone has a 54cm Saluki or AHH (650B), I would appreciate it if you could measure and post the Front Center distance, distance from the crank center to the front axle center. The RBW specs do not provide FC. Looking for a value of => 59.5cm to avoid TCO. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ --

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini!

I don't remember. There was at least one shorter than me but I don't think it was built up at that time. On Aug 3, 2017, 9:11 PM -0700, Daniel D. , wrote: > Did they have all sizes, 50 in particular, ready for demo, Justin? Forgot to > call today. > > -- > You received this

[RBW] 52cm, 650b-wheeled Quickbeam for sale.

I bought this new from Riv in 2010 It's from the last/final batch of Quickbeams they did. It's silver with blue trim, and - unique to that last batch - is a 52cm frame built around sidepull brakes and 650b wheels. It easily fits Hetres with fenders, and is a great riding bike. But I find that

[RBW] Re: Dog trailer for bikes - any experience or recommendations?

I once saw a guy towing two Jack Russells in a trailer. The trailer flipped as he went round a corner (I think he touched the kerb/curb) and the dogs fell out. They ran to the side of the road and waited obediently while the guy righted the trailer - almost as if it happened all the time and

[RBW] Re: why so many joe's up for sale?

I imagine another factor here is that we are looking at a certain subset of Rivendell owner, one who belongs to this RBW group. Kind of a concentrated, tiny niche within a tiny, microscopic niche. Being a rabid Rivendell fan and hooked in to the ongoing creation process through social media and

[RBW] Re: why so many joe's up for sale?

1. As many have said, most people bought them never having ridden one. 2. Price point was great from Riv, resale values good enough to recover a decent chunk to continue bike experimenting. 3. Riv is coming out with lots of interesting and cheap (er) designs at the same time with the Clem's,

Re: [RBW] N minus 2 plus 1

I agree with the keep Jones and Bomba... I owned a 56 Bomba alongside my 60 Saluki for over a year and was always surprised at how similar they felt. Honestly if set up the same I'd say handling was the same. The Saluki never felt noodly even when I was up at around 255lbs and the Bomba never

Re: [RBW] Saluki Links

The machines in the TdF are carbon racers sold to hardcore roadies, so it's an excellent comparison. They are not lifetime frames. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Saluki Links

The machines in the TdF are beaten to death by racers, so this isn't a particularly good comparison? -david parsons On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 10:52:16 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > "Lifetime model" is "bike that will outlast you." Which is definitely true > of Rivendells, and not at