Re: [RBW] Re: PSA - 1997 All-Rounder on Bay Area CL (not mine)

Thanks all and especially to Paul, the OP, and to Bill for his restraint. The bike is in great shape and lighter and zippier than I expected. I'll post when I get it set up. Carl, Columbia, CA On January 15, 2020 7:02:10 PM PST, Paul Lugo wrote: >Hi all, > >Thanks for all the interest! Carl

[RBW] Re: Evolution of Riv SS Designs?

On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 7:52:03 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: > > Whoa. Holy clearances, Batman! > I had Bruce Gordon Rock n Roads on my first run green Quickbeam. I think > 38s and fenders are where it’s at, though. For that bike. > > Yes, I agree. The Big Apples were cushy but

[RBW] Re: Evolution of Riv SS Designs?

Great news, thanks all! 38s with fenders would be a vast improvement over my 38s no-fender max Schwinn placeholder. I could certainly use a fendered bike since parting with a much too small, old Raleigh three speed. I also just saw Will’s newsletter update from this evening where he further

[RBW] Re: Evolution of Riv SS Designs?

Whoa. Holy clearances, Batman! I had Bruce Gordon Rock n Roads on my first run green Quickbeam. I think 38s and fenders are where it’s at, though. For that bike. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: PSA - 1997 All-Rounder on Bay Area CL (not mine)

Hi all, Thanks for all the interest! Carl is the new owner. Happy to see it go to a good home! Best, Paul in Oakland -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Dia compe 980 any good?

I’m going to experiment with brakes soon because it’s fun and I like to try different stuff. Coming from shimano cx-50s, which I find effective but don’t care for the looks. Any first hand opinions about the beautiful dia comps that Riv sells?

[RBW] Re: Figuring out a Rivendell

Whoa, where the heck is that inscribed? I've stripped some of the paint off my frame too, but I'll bring it by so we can test the fire and the fork! Hope you're healing up well On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-5, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote: > > Lambbo, I put your fork in

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Tires

Marc, Sorry - I just saw your question regarding GravelKing's. We've been lucky thus far. Only a few flats - no more than any other type of tire. Note that we only have the 'standard' GravelKing slicks. Apparently Panaracer came out with a GravelKing PLUS. The GK Plus adds a "ProTite

[RBW] Re: FS-Tires: Compass/RH 700x35 and Simworks Volummy

Too high? How about $50 shipped for the 700x35 extralight and $40 shipped for the volummy? Cheers, Collin A (soon moving to Sac!) On Thursday, January 2, 2020 at 12:27:24 PM UTC-8, Collin A wrote: > > Quick update, this is for only ONE tire of each, I may not have been clear > on that, whoops.

[RBW] Who Has A Hubbuhubbuh?

Ok OK -- I have a couple Riv's and I imagine, like most people, I've dreamed about building more than I actually own (I have gotten rid of lots of bikes, but never yet gotten rid of a Riv) -- So, with dreams of touring in my mind, I've been pricing out the build at around 4-5k depending upon the

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

I own a 59 Black Mtn Road, a 59 Roadeo, and I used to own a 57 Leo. Some 5'10" folks would have chosen a 54cm Leo. The 57 Leo was a much larger bike than the 59 Roadeo or the 59 Black Mtn. That site doesn't have my rendition of the Black Mtn so I used the 58. The 58 Black Mtn and the 59

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Atlantis

Matt, I have an older Atlantis and have Compass Rat Trap Pass 2.3 on it with fenders. Frank, Tomahawk,WI On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 11:08:38 AM UTC-6, MAP wrote: > > I'm in a similar boat as Robert, the original poster, so thank you Robert > and all for this discussion. > > Does anyone

[RBW] Re: FS 56cm Quickbeam

On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 at 7:12:25 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I'm curious about the brakes, I've never seen a 56 without canti posts. Maybe that's why it got repainted? The pic of the rear brakes showed that it likely didn't come stock with caliper brakes either, because the seat

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Atlantis

I've ridden thousands of miles of Midwest gravel on my Toyo Atlantis; 200 of them were racing the Dirty Kanza. I switched to a Salsa Fargo for serious gravel riding because of comfort, disc brakes, and tire clearance. I can barely squeeze 700x50 on the rear of the Atlantis and the brakes and

[RBW] Re: Evolution of Riv SS Designs?

I had Big Apple 50s on my orange QB. Here's a pic . Close fit, and not much room for adjusting forward/backward, but quite comfy. jim m wc, ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] Re: Evolution of Riv SS Designs?

That's good to hear, I'm running 35c GravelKing SK+ on my Orange QB and was planning on going to 38's at some point. On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:20 PM Reid Echols wrote: > Thanks for the shout-out Brian! > > I can confirm that I'm running 43c Gravelking SKs in my Silver QB, and > echo Patrick's

[RBW] Re: PSA - 1997 All-Rounder on Bay Area CL (not mine)

I love a good Bill L resell bike!! Karl (Don’t need it, but want it. bad) Nash, TN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Evolution of Riv SS Designs?

Thanks for the shout-out Brian! I can confirm that I'm running 43c Gravelking SKs in my Silver QB, and echo Patrick's statement that that's all I'd expect to fit. It does limit the forward/backward range on the dropout to what I would estimate is a 6-tooth differential (based on almost no

[RBW] Re: Evolution of Riv SS Designs?

Thank you, Deacon Patrick! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web

[RBW] Price for early Riv?

The frame should be 753 with a 531 fork, and we would need condition/color/parts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Tires

Thanks to everybody for the feedback. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this

[RBW] Re: PSA - 1997 All-Rounder on Bay Area CL (not mine)

I reached out to the seller and got him to photograph the bike with my Saddle Height of 75.5cm. It looks fine to me. More than a fistfull of seatpost, but I expect it'll be ~right there on standover for me at 5'10". I'm sure I could rock that bike, and I'm nearly certain that somebody is

[RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

You can get a 5cm reach Tallux from Riv and Ben’s cycle. But check the shaft height. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Figuring out a Rivendell

I saw that message on Ibob, and my first thought was a variation on what you describe: read the serial number and ask RBW... Mark in Utah On Monday, January 13, 2020 at 4:52:41 PM UTC-7, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote: > > A question came up over on the iBob list, wondering how to know what

[RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

Long time listener first time caller. There is a lot of focus here in regards to the chainstays, but a lot of the problems Leah describes in terms of finding a stem/handle bar that work is because the '19 Clem L was stretched going forward in the cockpit. I have also had some issues getting my

[RBW] Price for early Riv?

a friend has a line on an early Waterford 531 built, horizontal dropout frame/bike i want to advise him on its worth. mike goldman rhoide island -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Velocity Quill experiences?

I have a beautiful set of the polished quills on my Sam (mated to polished WI hubs) and they have been just fine, which is a good thing. I think rims are one of those things you only really notice if they're bad. The Quills are packed with modern tech (wide tires and tubeless ready) and are

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Atlantis

I'm in a similar boat as Robert, the original poster, so thank you Robert and all for this discussion. Does anyone know if the 56 cm / 650b (MiT?) Atlantis has a little more tire clearance than the 2.2" that is reported for all Atlantis (Atlantii?) on the latest spec sheet available online (

[RBW] PSA - 1997 All-Rounder on Bay Area CL (not mine)

My saddle height is probably somewhere more around 87-88cm. I lowered it to around 80cm cause it was more photogenic that way. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

Mike, That is pretty high praise for the BMC road frame seeing that you could buy 4.66 new BMC road frames for the price of one Roadeo. I know, MUSA, Rivendell lugs, Mark Nobilette, all add to the gloriousness of the Roadeo, but... Scott "who wanted buy Mike's 62cm BMC road before he changed

[RBW] Re: How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:52:28 PM UTC-5, Pancake wrote: > > Leah's discussion about long wheel base led to a lot of interesting > discussions about how people found Rivendell. I'd like to know: > >- How you first found out about Rivendell? >- What caused you to actually get

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

Bill, I think this is a smart way to explain the differences between the bikes: "On the Roadeo and on the Black Mountain Road, I feel a little bit weird if I'm not wearing racing kit. On the Leo, I felt a little bit weird if I was wearing racing kit." For me, another way of thinking about

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Tires

Marc, "Is the extra light casing worth the cash?" For me, absolutely. Your flat-tolerance-to-cush-ride-ratio may vary. I've experienced an increase in flats to roughly 4 a year with plush tires (I count my supple-ish liteskin Schwalbe's in there, which account for about half of my flats) from

[RBW] Re: Evolution of Riv SS Designs?

To tire clearance, all the QB owners, from green to orange, to silver (I'm silver), report 38mm Rene Herse Barlows working brilliantly, and some try and stuff a bit more in there but doing so looses some chain play toward the front. I've run 44mm whatever they are called 700c Rene Herse tires

[RBW] Evolution of Riv SS Designs?

Specifically, and in short, is there any appreciable difference in rear tire clearances between Gen1(green), Gen 2(orange), Gen3(silver) Quickbeams? I'm assuming differences are negligible but just curious... I have general familiarity with other design changes and have read through the

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Tires

I can’t compare the ELs to standard, I’ve never looked elsewhere since riding them. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Re: Figuring out a Rivendell

Lambbo, I put your fork in the fire (no paint, so no miracle) and all I got was "RUF". Maybe that means something to you? Maybe Grant? Maybe your frame could tell us more? -Kai On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 8:23:51 AM UTC-5, lambbo wrote: > hey what the heck are you guys talking about?! >

Re: [RBW] Re: Figuring out a Rivendell

I think they are playing with flames from Mordor and should watch out!!! On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 7:11 AM Joe Bernard wrote: > Nobody knows. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: FS: XS and Lg Olive SaddleSacks and new 700c generator wheel set

Wheel set is sold. Thanks. On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 at 6:03:17 PM UTC-6, Julian Westerhout wrote: > > Large Olive Saddlesack, very good condition, with a few scuffs. $130 > > > XS Olive Saddlesack, very good condition. Model with buckles, not zipper. > $45 > > > 700c Shimano Dynamo 36 spoke

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Tires

The Gravel King seemed an option until I heard a number of complaints about flats, even on tubeless applications. What is your experience with Gravel Kings and flats? I've been using Pasela tires for years but have been thinking of tubeless for the Hillborne now. Marc On Wednesday,

[RBW] Re: Figuring out a Rivendell

Nobody knows. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Tires

Steve, Maybe consider Panaracer tires? Specifically the GravelKing slicks? My wife and I ride our fair share of RH/Compass tires. Excellent quality, extremely comfy, long-wearing and high performance. We also own a fair number of Panaracer tires - specifically GravelKing slicks (28 and 32

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Tires

I had a similar experience with Marathon's on my Hunqapillar. They were the slowest tires I have ever used, on any thing. I replaced them with larger (50mm) Schwalbe Big Ben and have been rolling happily ever since. The Big Ben is incredibly fast on pavement for a wide tire and the extra

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Tires

I'm thinking, after a friend recommended them, of going to Bon Jon Pass tires on my Hillborne. Is the extra light casing worth the cash? Do you give up much durability against the standard casing? I worry a bit about the casing because I'm bigger (205-210 on the best of days) and have seen

[RBW] PSA - 1997 All-Rounder on Bay Area CL (not mine)

Karl, way too big for me, but I for one would love to see pics of that Riv MTB. Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Figuring out a Rivendell

hey what the heck are you guys talking about?! On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 at 10:07:04 PM UTC-5, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote: > > Well, not a scratch of harm to the paint, and though it's off topic and I > had thought to create a new thread for this, I'll go ahead and mention it > here,

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Tires

My experience has been that an improvement in the suppleness of the casing, including a less slab-like tread cap, is like gaining width and accompanying volume. I started riding the Stampede Pass ELs on my Rambouillet four years ago to expand the bike's terrain potential. 32 is pretty much the

[RBW] Re: FS: XS and Lg Olive SaddleSacks and new 700c generator wheel set

Tim, Sorry about that -- it is no longer available. Julian. On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 at 6:16:09 PM UTC-6, Tim O. (Portland, OR) wrote: > > Hey, Julian- > > I see a rain cape in the pictures, but no details in the post. If it's for > sale, could you let me know the details? > >

[RBW] Re: Figuring out a Rivendell

Ask iBob to translate iBob speak ... and see what iBob has to say for iBob. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to