Re: [RBW] Re: Clems: Rivendell, modernized?

2021-11-19 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
It may be sacrilege... but I definitely favor the Clem I have over the Quickbeam I don't have, but admittedly kinda wish I did have. Instead, I'll be awaiting any further news on Roaduno to, hopefully, one day join my Clem. I'm otherwise glad I went with a 65cm Mustard Clem as my first and

[RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

2021-11-19 Thread brendonoid
If I can lift a bike over a fallen tree then it is light enough. I remember when I had full front a rear pannier racks and was carrying way more camping stuff than I needed including 2kgs of coffee making paraphenalia. I went to pull my bike over a fallen tree and almost couldn't lift it. I got

[RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

2021-11-19 Thread Joe Bernard
That ain't bad at all, Gill. I would have guessed 5 pounds more for sure. Clems are light!  Joe Bernard On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 4:03:54 PM UTC-8 Gill wrote: > 2020 Clem stock build, brooks B17, thunder burt tires, light tubes, small > saddle bag - 31lbs. > On Friday, November 19,

[RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

2021-11-19 Thread Gill
2020 Clem stock build, brooks B17, thunder burt tires, light tubes, small saddle bag - 31lbs. On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 12:34:47 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote: > While we’re going "arg!"... > A number of threads have asked, and one of the questions could be answered > just by hanging a

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

2021-11-19 Thread Leah Peterson
I know…big missed opportunity on my part - I absolutely should have weighed those bikes but I was like a kid at Christmas and got caught up in the shiny new bike excitement. Totally forgot about weighing the thing. Someone mentioned (was it this thread?) about knowing how a bike feels

Re: [RBW] Re: Clems: Rivendell, modernized?

2021-11-19 Thread Leah Peterson
Jeremy, doesn’t it border on sacrilege that we would favor a Clem over something as iconic as the Quick Beam? But here we are. I know the long chainstays have been a turnoff for some, and at times they make things difficult (like when putting on vehicle bike racks or choosing parts like

Re: [RBW] Clems: Rivendell, modernized?

2021-11-19 Thread Leah Peterson
Gill is right about the name of this color, naturally. I mean, I couldn’t agree more 藍. Kai, I love this. Fantastic use of Clem, and fantastic photo of it doing the good things. > On Nov 19, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Gill wrote: > > Kai - Did you ride your Clem out to the end of the breakwater?

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

2021-11-19 Thread Patrick Moore
Just an entirely negligible aside, but I used to go through all sorts of contortions to weigh my Riv Roads and other road bikes by gingerly (gingerly-ly?) balancing them on a plank itself precariously balanced on the pan of a 25-lb USPS-certified Pelouze spring package scale. The bathroom scale

[RBW] Re: FS: 52cm Clem Smith H, MUSTARD

2021-11-19 Thread Nikko in Oakland
bump for a good build. On Saturday, November 6, 2021 at 1:18:19 PM UTC-7 Christopher Barbey wrote: > Three questions if you don't mind: > > 1. What size are the wheels on this? > 2. Are you at all willing to sell just the frame? > 3. How tall are you/what's your PBH & how do you feel about the

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

2021-11-19 Thread Patrick Moore
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 1:55 PM lconley wrote: > ... So why does my Gus Boots Wilsen have a titanium stem and handlebars? > And I do own a Park bicycle scale and know the weight of my 1971 Gitane > before and after I applied Weigle frame saver. Man! I thought I was bad! (Though I'm far less

[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadeo Complete

2021-11-19 Thread maxcr
Gorgeous! Max, who's downsizing yet is still tempted by this beauty On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 4:38:57 PM UTC-5 John G. wrote: > Time to move this one on! Selling my beloved 61cm Roadeo so that I can > fund the purchase of a different bike. It's great, but it has almost total > overlap

[RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

2021-11-19 Thread aeroperf
Hetchins52- No, the Sam weighed about 3/4 pounds more than the Homer, comparably equipped: 30.5 vs 29 lb 14 oz (29.875). This is the problem with weighing - the Homer was 650B but had heavier tires, etc., etc. It just comes down to weighing what you actually ride, and then basing off of that.

[RBW] Re: Clems: Rivendell, modernized?

2021-11-19 Thread Jeremy Till
Great thread Leah! I too love my Clem (first gen "H" frame in green for me) and everything it represents about the evolution of Rivendell's designs. I became a Rivendell devotee during the "classic" era, lusting after Quickbeams, Rambouillets, Atlanti, early Homers, etc. During the later

[RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

2021-11-19 Thread lconley
I can lose the weight of two complete Rivendell spec complete Clems off of my body, and still be overweight, so saving grams off of the bike and low spoke counts are not as important to me as they were back in the seventies. So why does my Gus Boots Wilsen have a titanium stem and handlebars?

[RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

2021-11-19 Thread 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm surprised that the Sam seems to weigh less than the Homer! Were the 2015 Sam's made in Taiwan? I have a 56 cm Toyo Homer which must be a lighter frame and fork. And, it has lighter Pacenti Brevet wheels with Paris-Moto tubed tires. When I weighed it a few years ago (get on digital bathroom

[RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

2021-11-19 Thread iamkeith
I'm guessing it's not so much a conspiracy as it is the fact that a lot of rivendell owners are the type of riders who just don't think or care as much about weight as some other bikers do. At least I'm that way: I dont buy cheap frames or put unnecessarily heavy or fragile components on

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

2021-11-19 Thread Patrick Moore
Or, if you have a decent body scale, weight before and while holding the bike. I'll be interested in hearing Clem weights and corresponding builds. I do think Riv framesets are heavier than they need to be, but OTOH, so many people find Clems and such to ride "lighter" than their weight; this

[RBW] Re: WTT: Brooks C17 Black

2021-11-19 Thread Doug H.
To clarify this C17 is the solid one without the relief carved out of the middle. Doug On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 2:17:17 PM UTC-5 Jeffrey Arita wrote: > Hi Doug, > > PM sent. > > Jeff > Claremont, CA > > On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 7:29:41 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote: > >> I've now tried

[RBW] Re: WTT: Brooks C17 Black

2021-11-19 Thread Jeffrey Arita
Hi Doug, PM sent. Jeff Claremont, CA On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 7:29:41 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote: > I've now tried the C17 and my bum doesn't approve so I want to trade for a > B17 black or antique brown, not the honey color. Or, another brand of > leather saddle. If I don't find a trade

Re: [RBW] Clems: Rivendell, modernized?

2021-11-19 Thread Gill
Kai - Did you ride your Clem out to the end of the breakwater? I’ve never thought to do that. I’ve also never seen another Riv out in the wild so if ever you return to glosta give a shout out. Leah - The color is, “blue-green shot thru with glimmer like sunlight on seawater” On Thursday,

[RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

2021-11-19 Thread aeroperf
While we’re going "arg!"... A number of threads have asked, and one of the questions could be answered just by hanging a bike on the scale at your LBS. I was hoping Leah would weigh Peppermint Platy before and after her build, but I guess that’s OBE. How about somebody go weigh their Clem,

[RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

2021-11-19 Thread Johnny Alien
The Charlie H. Gallop is not exactly a true mixte but it does have a lovely swoopy top tube. It is a tigged road bike basically designed to be a cross between a Clem and a Roadini. While its a road bike primarily it is designed to be used with swept back bars. I consider it probably closer to

[RBW] WTT: Brooks C17 Black

2021-11-19 Thread Doug H.
I've now tried the C17 and my bum doesn't approve so I want to trade for a B17 black or antique brown, not the honey color. Or, another brand of leather saddle. If I don't find a trade I will sell this like new C17 in box. Thanks, Doug Athens, GA -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

2021-11-19 Thread Kiley Demond
I am so late to this party What pray tell is a "Gallop"? I clicked on the link and am very curious. Yes, it is partly because it is a spectacular shade of orange; I am every bit a girl (Like Leah and Raspberry Sparkle) and when it comes to orange... And it is a mixte. Pointing me to links

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

2021-11-19 Thread Kiley Demond
I ride mostly light trails and some roads. More unpaved than paved but nothing "gnarly"; I don't have a death wish. On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 6:33:50 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote: > What type of riding are we talking about? To me that would make a > difference. If it's mostly paved

[RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

2021-11-19 Thread Kiley Demond
Thank you for the exhaustive answer! I chickened out on the Clem L in the lottery... which of course now is a semi-regret. Ah, a resale awaits and will find me at the right time. On Tuesday, November 9, 2021 at 7:48:34 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote: > I had a 59 Clem H from the first run, and now

Re: [RBW] Roadini 650b conversion

2021-11-19 Thread Brian Campbell
I have a 61cm, 2011, A. Homer Hilsen with braze-on Paul racers, internal wiring, custom paint that runs 38mm with full fenders. I am the only owner since I bought the frame from Riv. It will be going up for sale soon to help offset a long over-due kitchen renovation. Let me know if you have