For me Paul's breaks made sense on my Rivendell Bleriot and Kona Explosif.
For these reasons. Your reasons may vary. Once I get a bike the way I like
it I leave it alone for years, so it's basically a one time expense
for something like brakes and levers (I think I have 17 years on the
Explosif
The Paul Mini Motos on my Sam feel like disc brakes without the modulation.
They stop almost too good. I had to loosen the cables to the point where the
levers almost bottoms out so I don’t lock the wheels up so easily when riding
on dirt. The Deore XT V-brakes on my Rosco feel like mush
I've found friction shifting 10 as easy and precise with the right setups
as friction shifting 7 or 8, if not easier and more precise.
My experience bears on a very particular setup for 10, though: cogs more or
less in series, Suntour barcons (versus at least Silver 1s), short cage (8
sp) rd,
Eric, et. al.:
I stumbled upon Shimano RR M760 quite a few years ago and snatched a bunch
of 'em up. Enough to mount on four 'daily' riders and a few more to replace
any that stop working or suffer trauma, etc.. Shift levers are all Dura-Ace
9 speed mounted on DT.
All of them are now as sharp
Great build in that Bombadil! Hope you kept those super fresh cranks.
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 4:29:07 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
> My practical side says those look really hard to clean.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2022, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <
>
Last M760 RR data point — looking back at my old bike pix, at least one of
my reverse-normal M760s has been hard-at-work for 9 years. Was mounted in
2013 for sure, maybe just a bit earlier.
Jock Dewey
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 12:00:22 PM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:
> Eric, et. al.:
>
>
Hi,
I recently bought a Mouton. When I saw that PortaPed in AZ had one in orange, I
jumped on it. They are hard to get and its rare to find the exact one you want
in stock.
They ride really nice but are sensitive to tire selection. I get the best
performance with Schwalbe One tires on it.
>
Big fan of RB-Ts and XO-2s. Great to dream and put things out to the
universe but also never hurts to have a back up plan
On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 8:22:14 PM UTC-7 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a hard time accepting the first few dings on my bikes and therefor
> I baby the crap
C17 Carved is my preferred saddle. The have quite a bit more flex than the
regular C17.
If you don’t mind the generic look, old Advocet Touring saddles are pretty
comfy.
On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 6:11:30 AM UTC-7
jo...@chilmarkresearch.com wrote:
> Saddles are a very personal
Hi,
I’ve had many Paul Comp brakes. His brake levers are the best out there. Worth
every penny and will last forever.
I like his Motolite brakes and they are only thing better than Shimano V-brakes.
I’ve used the Racer brakes will good success, but they are not really
improvement over normal
Hi Paul,
I thank-you for your compliments on my Clem "L".
I seldom post on the IBOB LIst. Every once in awhile you can see me therein.
This the first time I have joined and posted on RBW LIST. I felt reason to
since I now own a RIvendell Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle.
Thank-you your regards
As someone who likes to fiddle, I find the adjustability (read: fiddliness)
enjoyable. I like supporting small businesses, especially in this industry
and despite the bling factor, I do think Paul Components has some great
ideas. Designing all their brakes to run the same V-brake pads is nice,
Bill,
Gosh this thing looks fun.
Can I ask what decaleur you’re using? Looks like it clamps to the bar but
I’ve never seen one like that before.
Could I also ask how you bent the struts on that Nitto 32f evenly? Just a
vice and some measurements, maybe a protractor? Wondering if there’s any
Frankly, this thread is a great discussion full of sound points...educational
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On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 7:50 PM, rltil...@gmail.com
wrote: I have never used any of Paul’s brakes surprisingly. It’s surprising
because I have no problem spending money on things
I'm going on my ninth year of owning my Paul Racers. I have no doubts that
they'll last me my cycling lifetime. They are clever, overbuilt, beautiful
brakes. Using these in their long reach context, they offer many times over
more braking power and braking feel than anything else out there (r559,
As others have said, "worth it" depends on the user as much as the thing
itself. Even the question, "Is it worth it?" means different things at
different times to different people, all the way from "should I spend $$$
on this or spend it on Christmas presents?" to "do Paul cantilevers retard
my
I've found myself in need of a spare set of rim brake 650b wheels for my
wife's bike. She's happy running 38-42 tires, so I don't need anything
crazy wide. Anything within the realm of A23s or Dyads would be fine. I
don't have the budget to pick up a custom hand-built set right now and
piecing
As we get older, the handlebars get higher and the gears get lower.
I used to ride in the drops for 40 years. It affected my posture a lot to
the point that I had to retire my favorite bike and find a different one. I
longed to ride upright.
At 67 years old, I now ride and feel very
The Phil cache from the '70s is an excellent analogy to how Paul lands for
me: I was fascinated by Paul parts - especially the rear derailleur -
during the CNC mountain bike era in the '90s (and still have my BikePro
catalogue to show for it). Later as an older dude I was finally able to
Bump! Items still available:
Nitto Technomic stem
110mm x 22.2, for 25.4 bars
Used, in good condition
$50 + $15 shipping
Nitto B901R Bullmoose
CroMo
Used, in excellent condition
$200 + $30 shipping
Acorn Tool Roll Bag
Black waxed canvas
Brand new, still in wrapper, never mounted
$80 + $15
I have never used any of Paul’s brakes surprisingly. It’s surprising because I have no problem spending money on things that are better/more advanced than what I need. For me, I think (maybe wrongly) that I can get 90% of the braking that Paul’s would provide at a fraction of the cost by using
I like Paul brakes for all the reasons stated above. “Worth” is hard to pin
down, but I like the Gene Berg quote from upthread. (OT: it’s been a while
since I’ve heard that name!) I’ve tried different types and prefer the
Motolites over the cantilever versions. Once the Racers are back in
Thanks for all of your thoughtful responses. I certainly believe that Paul
brakes are excellent and worth the price. I guess that I was surprised that
the price wasn’t for a full brake set. But that is me being out of touch
with high quality components. Most likely I’m going to cancel the order
Bill, Since you asked, no , they're not worth it. I could give you my
reasons, but they would be no less a rationalization of why I don't buy or
use them as those that do. So you're right back to where you are, with a
pending order for what you thought was for a complete set but only half.
The
Yes he should buy what he wants, my answer is my experience and how I feel
about it. It's also based on the budget I was working with a couple years
ago, I'm not currently operating with Paul money! 螺
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 4:20:51 PM UTC-7 Minh wrote:
> you're responses are going to
Joe, you’re probably right that it is a 52 and the owner was measuring c-c or something. If it were closer to a 54-55 size I’d be inclined to try to negotiate a more reasonable price. That bike looks like it could use some love.On Sep 25, 2022, at 6:25 PM, Brian Turner wrote:The $3,000 AR is a
you're responses are going to be a little skewed by asking on this group,
as most of us have decided that 'worth it' are based on other things beside
$$ value. from a functional standpoint you can get other brakes that are
more affordable and function nearly the same. if you want to split
I have these on my Roadini, and they're the best. Highly recommend. I was
very worried that Campagnolo had discontinued their carbon brake levers,
but the SRAMs are just as comfortable. Brake levers are the only place on
my bike I have carbon fiber. They act as insulators which means your
The $3,000 AR is a 51cm. I reached out to the seller since she’s in my neck of the woods. I’m sure it’s a nice Riv for a project bike, but I agree it’s got too much going against it to fetch that asking price.On Sep 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Ryan wrote:I confess mine has "Ryan Fleming" on it. My
I have a set - Velocity Dyads / Mavic MR601 hubs (front and rear) - $350
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 5:43:43 PM UTC-4 jcbrya...@gmail.com wrote:
> I've found myself in need of a spare set of rim brake 650b wheels for my
> wife's bike. She's happy running 38-42 tires, so I don't need
They are absolutely worth the money in terms of quality, function, and
supporting a great company. I own and use every type of brake Paul makes,
and lots of others and the Motolites combined with the Paul levers are
absolutely the best rim brakes I have ever used. And yes I disagree that
they
Tire clearance is a thing, too, if you're looking at v-brakes. My Motolites
are quite tall and clear a 650B x 47 "gravel" tire with room left for
fenders.
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 2:00:19 PM UTC-7 Ryan M. wrote:
> I really do think they are worth the money and when/if you ever decide
I really do think they are worth the money and when/if you ever decide to
sell them you can recoup a lot of the cost back.
I've had the fortunate experience of using most of the current Paul brakes
at one time or another and I do think they all work really well. They work
even better when you
Only speaking for myself, here: I love my Paul cantis and moto lites, have
them currently installed on two Rivs, had them on another bike and, as
Laing mentioned, pulled them off before I sold it.
I love that there is a small machine shop in Northern California making
weird bike parts and I
I confess mine has "Ryan Fleming" on it. My vanity would almost certainly
discount the price...if I was going to sell it. My heirs' problem, not
mine. Saddle level with a Pearl stem. Moustache bars. I'm still OK with
that position and it's still a lovely bike...my issue is with the accursed
I MADE A MISTAKE $65 FOR ALL .
CHARLIE
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 2:46:04 PM UTC-4 Charlie wrote:
> HEAD SET WRENCHES+PEDAL WRENCH $70 + SHIPPING $16
> CASH OR USPS MONEY ORDER (POST OFFICE MO) NO OTHER MONEY ORDERS
>
> PARK HW-2 32mm X 36mm SEMI - BOX DESIGN
> NO NAME 36X32+
>
>
Yeah that AR looks like the 52cm I had, which also had the dreaded owner's
name on the toptube..not the most brilliant idea in early Rivland. $3000 is
uh optimistic, there's a 50cm on Ebay that started there and is now
down to $2000 with no takers. They're nice production bikes with
Echoing Bill and Joe, it depends on which criteria are important in your
value calculation for a particular set of circumstances.
I went to great lengths to find (out of production but soon to be back in
production) Paul brakes for one of our bikes. It felt appropriate and
justifiable, even
RH Tires are gone, but the rack/bags are still available. Open to
reasonable offers!
Collin in Sactown
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 1:44:08 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
> There have been a couple nibbles on the rack and bags, but no takers.
> Updated below:
>
> Nitto Hub Area Rack with
Years ago I used to buy what some people considered overpriced VW parts
from Gene Berg. His motto was "Buy the best and cry once". I basically
subscribe to that point of view, but I more or less have the money to do
it. That is why I buy so many Rivendells. Made in USA is a plus with me. I
I cannot speak to the brakes. But the levers are SO GOOD! Having never had any
kind of issue with my Shimano linear pull brakes I feel like it’s crazy money
for the Paul’s, but based on the levers I may be wrong.
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> On Sep 25, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Bill Fulford wrote:
>
> I
First one is a Waterford-built All-rounder. Same color as mine. Looks like
it wasn't ridden so much
I don't have a FB account but I downloaded the screen shot and saw the 531
decal ...and the lugs. $3000.00. Too much? Someone might want to cover over
owner's initials , which was an option at
"Worth it" is of course subjective but I have these brakes on my Rivendell
Custom and they're worth it to me. The feel and power is notably superior
to the Shimano v-brakes I started with, the qr function on the arms is
miles better, the adjusting springs are very easy to fiddle with, the very
There is no objective answer to that question. For lots of people, the
answer is unequivocally yes. For many others, the answer is no.
Many who love them love the adjust-ability. Many who dislike them call
them "fiddly", since they are so adjustable, one has to be a pretty good
wrench to
I was recently gifted $500 to Rivendell. My plan was to upgrade my 2007
Atlantis with Paul brakes and levers. I placed the order only to read later
that the brakes are sold per wheel. That’s more than I wanted to spend. So
before I call Rivendell tomorrow morning to cancel I’m wondering how
Hi Kim.
You really have that Clem set up nice!
I think I remember you used to post on the ibob years back?
I recall your name from somewhere.Maybe just on the riv list.Memory fades.
Enjoy that terrific Clem and safe riding.
Paul in Dallas
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Laing — Thanks for sharing that pic of the RH rear mech. I've seen it
before but haven't read much about it. Are these supposed to offer great
shifting, justifying their resurrection? Any chance they shift as well as a
Suntour Cyclone? I'm sure I wouldn't be down for the cost. I remember the
Thank you, Junes! On my ride today I was thinking I should have stopped to
take photos of the road surfaces, could be interesting to share with the
group. But with all the climbing I was discouraged from stopping.
J — I forget that synthetic and natural down layers are for keeping you
warm
Great ride report Eric, looks like a lovely time. I'm just one state over
from you and would totally make the trip to accompany you on a ride. I've
have not been very impressed with my Patagonia Nano Puff. It's not great
for physical activities.
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 2:22:49 PM
Very nice...as usual. I have those Deore XT cantilevers on my AR. Never
thought of them as clunky but I see your point
Great color!
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 8:58:16 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
> My Single Speed Crust Lightning Bolt build is essentially complete now.
> The same
SAM $2400
51m
Portland
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-bicycle-works-sam/7536289932.html
Romulus $1550
57cm
Seattle
https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bik/7530803930.html
Bleriot $1950
55 cm
Seattle
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/7518207928.html
On Sunday,
Thanks Mike Godwin, David, and Garth. I appreciate the suggestions and
creative solutions!
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 4:48:36 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
> I like the idea of the plumbing washers and/or anything one wouldn't
> normally consider !
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I really enjoyed this report, Eric. It’s nicely written and has a great
balance of personal reflections — including travails — with details about
the ride itself, road, and terrain. It’s inspiring and makes me want to
seek new paths.
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 8:24:29 AM UTC-4
My Single Speed Crust Lightning Bolt build is essentially complete now.
The same Flickr album has all the pictures from my Saturday activities:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720302216629
On Saturday I built the wheels:
-Crust 650B Rims
-Sapim Double Butted Spokes
Kudos to you and your son.
That's a beautiful design.
I hope you are able to get them madeand that the ride is an outstanding success
and enjoyed by all participants.
Paul in Dallas
Just a thought...If not enough participants want one you might open it up to
list and get enough people taking
Thanks for reading, Randy and duhbrr :)
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 6:42:33 PM UTC-4 larson@gmail.com
wrote:
> Great ride report and pictures! A beautiful part of the world, to be sure.
> Randy in Wisconsin
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 3:35:46 PM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com
>
Garth, those are some nice cutters there. And I love finding stuff on the
side of the road and putting it to use!
I've only accidentally acquired Snap-On stuff in the past by purchasing
large lots of tools and later found it bundled in there. They make nice
stuff but outside what I'm willing
About all I can say about bike saddles is that they are just fitting
clothes. That said, I ride Selle Royal Lookin Men's Moderate saddles. Most
of their saddles are quite flat in that not only is there no center dip,
the rear of the saddle is also flat
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:14:37
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To be clear I see Riv's point in making one, it's a different thing from
what's currently available so they'll have that niche. I just don't want
one.
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 4:20:30 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
> I’m with Joe on this one. It’s a lot of work on something that’s
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