Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

The Pass & Stow works great with top loads and panniers. When I have a child seat blocking the rear rack, I can move panniers to the front, no problem. I do wish that I had a bag for the top rack for better load balancing, but I too have had problems with Freight - fortunately, it seems,

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

I always thought the quote "Hoopless is Hopeless" referring to front Lowriders was from Gary Helfrich. Someone either here or on the Bob list attributed this to Bruce Gordon recently. Steve On Friday, March 11, 2016, blakcloud wrote: > Pass and Stow were at NAHBS and

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

The CETMA racks are, unfortunately, garbage. I have an older generation Half-Rack and the workmanship is very poor - I almost thought about trying to return it when I got it, I was so dismayed. The P seems miles better in terms of quality. I intended to get one before going all in on a custom

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

Mounting to the fork crown is an interesting idea. The slots are set a bit wider than the fork though, so you may have to do some bending to get that to work. Don't write off the stock mounting plate, it's sturdy and very easy to set up. Here's my 650 Clem with P rack carrying about 15lbs of

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

I used my P rack on both my Hunqapillar and my Atlantis and mounted via the internal cable route an Edelux I headlight. It worked very well, and I used it mostly with a basket for the Sackville ShopSacks. It is one of the first steel (not black) racks they started doing and its held up very well.

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

P.S. Not that it matters in this instance, but the CETMA Half Rack is also pannier compatible... Indeed. Cetma is also a versatile design. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

I gave a custom porteur rack to someone on the list. Always wondered whether he was able to get it to work on his bike. With luck he sees this and chimes in. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

I did just see that the Cetma half rack will take panniers. Style just isn't for me. David Chicago On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 1:55:02 PM UTC-6, Doug Van Cleve wrote: > > Yes, I had to send out my fork and front fender when I had my custom SS > porteur rack made years ago. And if you

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

Yes, I had to send out my fork and front fender when I had my custom SS porteur rack made years ago. And if you anticipate changing bikes, the P can adapt to the new one as well. And if you find a porteur rack isn't for you, a P will retain more of its value than a custom rack, although a custom

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

Probably true, my wording wasn't as precise as it should have been. A custom rack that is all welded/brazed will be stronger and lighter than anything similar that bolts together, assuming similar materials. I was just throwing out the CETMA and Wald as non-custom options that don't cost as much

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

Pass Stow is definitely lighter than the Cetma 5 rail. Not familiar with the other Cetma racks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

I considered going custom, pricepoint would've been similar for a porteur rack with rails for panniers. The downside would be I'd need to send the builder my fork, then I'd be out my daily rider for a while. The P rack's ability to fit other bikes is a plus for me. If I ever get an itch to set

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

Late to the party, but I will share a couple thoughts. By all accounts the P rack is nice, but it is also as expensive as a custom porteur rack and the more adaptable a rack is, generally the more flexible and heavier it will be. Depending on your goal and price point, there are a couple CETMA

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

> Same experience. They claimed it was delivered. They were unable to send me tracking number, and said they would refund. Didn't answer any follow up emails for a month as I never got the refund. > Ultimately had to go through my bank. Fortunately, I saved all emails and documentation and had

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

Same experience. They claimed it was delivered. They were unable to send me tracking number, and said they would refund. Didn't answer any follow up emails for a month as I never got the refund. Ultimately had to go through my bank. Fortunately, I saved all emails and documentation and had them

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

Thanks for all that replied. My Clem has cantilever brakes (built it up from a frameset) so there shouldn't be any interference mounting to center hole. Looks like I could use the mounting slots to use a couple struts and utilize the top fork mounts. I'll try the rack mount as it is first of

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

Got here too late. Very happy with my Pass Stow. > > n.b.: While the Freight Bag Dan mentions above looks nice, my experience with the company is very bad. I paid for one on line. Bag never showed. All my e-mails were for naught. I guess I could have sued, but being out of state makes

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

I just needed one solid endorsement. Sent in my payment just now. For those interested, current queue time is 6-8 weeks. David Chicago On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 9:55:07 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote: > > I have a P rack on my Bombadil. Extremely versatile -- I've had a large > Wald basket on it,

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

HI David. I have a Pass & Stow on my Cheviot. I have used it with a Freight Porteur bag, front panniers, a Wald basket and combos of those. Keeping the load low helps with wheel flop. If I fill up the Porteur bag the front gets a mind of its own. The internal path for dyno wiring keeps things

Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

I have a P rack on my Bombadil. Extremely versatile -- I've had a large Wald basket on it, and I've also ridden the bike with small Berthoud panniers on it (paired with medium Berthoud panniers on the rear, with tent, sleeping bag and pad spread over the rack platforms. Rode well in all

[RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a Pass & Stow rack for my Clem. While Clem isn't the typical bike for a big front load, I've had pretty good success with a Wald basket on a Soma rack. That rack needs to go back on another back. What I'd really like is front panniers, with the