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I used the White Ind Eno chainring on a 1x9 MTB setup (XTR rear der.) for a couple years and never dropped a chain On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4, Matt P. wrote: > > dstein: > I will be curious to know whether you have any problems with dropping the > chain using that White

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Looking good! The extender thingy is called a Goatlink,made by Wolftooth. It's supposed to help with cassette life and smoother shifting, even if you don't actually need it. Also regarding Matt P's wondering about the WI ring, I've heard that clutch derailers alone can be fine for keeping the

[RBW] Re: 1X10: How clean it is!

dstein: I will be curious to know whether you have any problems with dropping the chain using that White Industries chainring in your 1x10 setup. The manufacturer says it's only for single speed gearing, not 1x, and those teeth look awfully short compared to the teeth on something like a Wolf

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Forgot the pics link: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B085idkMwoZhdk On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 3:43:45 PM UTC-7, dstein wrote: > > Just got finished setting up my Hunqapillar for 1x10 with a White > Industries Eno 42t,11-42 sunrace cassette, and my existing 9 speed dura ace > shifters

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Just got finished setting up my Hunqapillar for 1x10 with a White Industries Eno 42t,11-42 sunrace cassette, and my existing 9 speed dura ace shifters (friction). Should give a 26-99" gear inch range. Haven't really ridden outside of a short neighborhood jaunt, but so far so good. A few build

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I agree; I was just pointing out that the pros have a real use for those big gears. Me, mine top out at 90" max and usually less. On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Ron Mc wrote: > Try it some time. Under the right conditions, you may feel yourself > accelerate when you

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Try it some time. Under the right conditions, you may feel yourself accelerate when you stop pedaling. Pros know that feeling, and you'll see them coasting some times, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

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Though I suppose that a high wattage pro rider can power him/herself faster down hill in a very big gear than he/she can coast, right? You certainly see pros in the big ring/small cogs on downhills, even if only to get back up to speed. I assume that, if you are strong enough and motivated enough,

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You actually can be faster coasting downhill than by pedaling at your spin limit. Your hub pawl friction losses are usually lower than the total friction losses in your drivetrain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

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Are you using a regular chainring? I have a "narrow-wide" chainring, which means the teeth alternate between narrow and wide, just like the spaces in a bicycle chain. I don't run a clutch derailleur and I've never lost my chain, although I don't do a lot of rough and tumble riding. Many

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Years of fixed gear riding have made me largely indifferent to high gears, so that even my derailleur bikes top out in the mid 80 inches -- top end (and low end) sacrificed for close ratios in the middle; an ideal gear pattern gives me ~5" jumps between 80" and 50", and the rest is gravy. FWIW,

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+1 on the coasting downhills approach. It's pretty amazing how close to top-speed (AKA "fast enough") you can get when you tuck in your knees and elbows, get down good and low and just let gravity do the work. My days of riding 110+ gear-inch bikes to go 35 mph on steep descents for 1% of my

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I tried a Rohloff once on a test ride. After lots of "internet research", I was convinced that the Rohloff was going to be awesomethe real life experience didn't live up to the hype. The shifts were not very smooth, certainly not worth the expense and extra weight. I am currently using a

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Phillip, Yes I agree. And I've been considering a Rohloff. There are some downsides to a Rohloff as with all things. Off the top of my head 1. Weight in the rear. 2. Bar and shifter combo issues. 3. Expensive (which we have sort of covered) ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your

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At that point wouldn't you want to just spend a hundred dollars more for a Rohloff? Just looking at the 1x12 SRAM prices, $420 for the cassette which is a quick wearing component seems steep. Even their driver body is almost $100 alone. Rohloff would have more gears, weather sealing, and would

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Hi Mike, I'm coming around to the merits of a 1xn drive. I believe on my custom I'll be going with a 1x11, I'd love to go 1x12 but Sram is the only game in town at the moment (and the price is prohibitive) if my memory serves me and I sort of favor Shimano. Why? Just a preference. My custom

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You are correct - I was lobbing out the term 'crazy low' to describe a Q factor that is narrow compared to 2016 normal. It measures 134mm. On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 11:57:45 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > It's probably not really "crazy low Q", by your definition, but it is > probably a

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nicee, the 1x? drivetrain will also allow you to run fatter tires in the rear so also a plus. was debating on getting a jones, but decided to put in for a hunq instead. looks awesome! On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 11:44:25 PM UTC-4, Mike in WA wrote: > > > I just got back from my first proper

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It's probably not really "crazy low Q", by your definition, but it is probably a good 10mm narrower than your XD2. While stoker is running the 110mm BCD early 90s version of the Sugino/Ritchey cranks, I'm running the mid 90s 94mm BCD version on two bikes. Both are run as a double and both

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That is very nice! I'd ride that! What exactly is the Q for the Logic crank on the 103 mm bb? I wonder if a Logic would save Q over the XD2 that I presently have. Thanks. On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 4:30 PM, stoker wrote: > That's a timely post! A couple of weeks ago, I

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I've made up 3 using Miche cassettes Here's a thread you might want to peruse: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/internet-bob/jwPd_VZqvmk BTW, on my 2x9 yesterday, I rode in every gear (I live in the Texas hill country) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

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George asked: "anyone know how difficult it is to build up your own custom cassette these days?" Just like virtually anything, the real answer is: it depends There are individual cogs out there. If you can find the collection of individual cogs you need, then the actual physical effort of

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As long as we're on the subject of 1x"n" gearing, anyone know how difficult it is to build up your own custom cassette these days? Say you wanted a certain gear size right straight down the middle of a 9-speed because that's the one you'll be riding in 90% of the time, but nobody sells one

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understatement - congratulations on a such a fine ride On Sunday, April 10, 2016 at 8:43:56 PM UTC-5, Bruce Smitham wrote: > > Hey Stoker, that's a sweet set up and beautiful bike. It's a cross between > my Rivendell Rodeo and Ritchey Breakaway Ti Cross. I'm looking forward to > going 1 X 11

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Hey Stoker, that's a sweet set up and beautiful bike. It's a cross between my Rivendell Rodeo and Ritchey Breakaway Ti Cross. I'm looking forward to going 1 X 11 within the next week. Bruce On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 4:30 PM, stoker wrote: > That's a timely post! A couple

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That's a timely post! A couple of weeks ago, I updated my Riv Custom from a 'classic' build (friction shifting, etc.) to a 1x10. Wolf Tooth 40T w/Sram Rival 10 speed (12x28). I ran a 103mm BB with the Ritchey Logic cranks. The chainline is perfect and it has a crazy low Q. I wish I had done

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I'm using a 1x8 friction-shift drivetrain, with a 34T Wolf Tooth Drop-Stop chainring up front on my Clem. The 8-speed chain works just fine. Bob E On Sunday, April 10, 2016 at 5:02:14 PM UTC-4, Mike in WA wrote: > > I'm using a 10-speed chain. IIRC, Wolf Tooth recommends using the narrower >

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I'm using a 10-speed chain. IIRC, Wolf Tooth recommends using the narrower 10-speed chain for a tighter fit, but 9-speed will work. 10-speed chains are cheap these days (I got a Shimano XT for $20), which made the decision to convert easier. On Sunday, April 10, 2016 at 1:32:03 PM UTC-7,

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I'm curious to know what kind of chain you're using with that Wolf Tooth - a 9 or 10 speed chain, etc? Info about that on the Wolf Tooth side is a little sketchy. On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 10:44:25 PM UTC-5, Mike in WA wrote: > > > I just got back from my first proper ride with the new

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Assuming you're running 700X38 tires (i think I recall you posting about switching to Barlows...) and it's 28 front, 30 in back, that works out to a 25.5 gear-inch low gear. On 2.3" road tires, I'm getting a 22 inch low gear with a 32 X 11-42 setup. I personally find that I can barely deliver

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Heck yeah! They're going to be even better with the new model now having boost spacing in the rear and capability to use 150mm generator front hubs. I don't regret being an early adopter, but that will be an awesome bike. New Jones Plus

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I'm getting ready to switch to a 1 x 11 drivetrain as well. Currently I have my Ritchey Breakaway Ti Cross set up with Sram Apex 2 x 10 brifters and MTN drivetrain (42 x 28 rings) and 12/36 cassette. Works well but I still get a little trim issue with the FD now and then which bothers me. I'm

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Every single time I see a Jones I think that it is the way to go for my future MTB (after this house thing settles). They just look perfect! -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

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When I first got my Surly Big Dummy, I didn't have a FD which fit the seat tube, so I was doing the stick for shifting thing as well. I got pretty good at using my shoe for the down shift. A 1x set up makes a lot of sense to me, I've been putting bikes together that way for friends and family

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True stick shifting at it's finest! Sounds like a great setup, Patrick (though it'd be exceedingly difficult to market). I may have come on a little strong in saying FD's are entirely stupid and useless, but for my purposes they don't make sense. I fancied the idea of bikepacking when I bought

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I've considered doing this with my drivetrain. I'm using a converted triple so I could easily stick a 24t ring on there as an emergency "manual" bailout gear. On Sunday, April 10, 2016 at 9:33:19 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Fantastic, Mike! The 1x drive train is wondrous, isn't it?

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Fantastic, Mike! The 1x drive train is wondrous, isn't it? I run a hybrid of sorts on my Hunqapillar, that gives me the range of a 2x9 but the simplicity of a 1x9. My outer chain ring is effectively a bash guard (I never use it, as it only offers 1 gear substantially higher than my middle

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1x sounds intriguing but i like friction shifting. I might also miss fd shifting. I think it is good to have things to do with the hands to get them moving and off the bars regularly. I also need a mighty low bail out gear (28x30). I dont know how that works out to which ratios with a 1x. --

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My old Surly Pugsley was 1x9 setup and I liked it. My new Pugsley is 2x10 and it's all right, but a 1x setup is always appealing as there is less to jam. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

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Congratulations Mike, sounds like you're happy. I seem to want and use a dirt low gear around here of 18-21 inches. My flawless 2x9 gives me that with a less expensive 9 cog cassette. So does Big O fenders have a dedicated fender kit for the Jones Plus? And after 10 months on mine I agree with

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I have a 2 x 9 that has given me no grief whatsoever after 4000 mi, but I also love my Microshift thumbies Microshift indexing works great (Miche custom cassette) This is my first index-shifting bike ever, but went it with after the success with Microshift 9-sp index bar ends on my daughter's

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I'm running the Surly OD crank with a Microshift MTN thumb shifter . I'm currently using indexed shifting, but you can switch these into friction mode with the turn of an allen key. The option to be able to go back to the

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I went 1x9 on my Karate Monkey and I don't have any interest in ever having more than one chainring on a bike. At this point, I think I really want to look in upgrading to a Rohloff in the next few years. Low maintenance, wide gear range, simplicity (from the perspective of keeping the

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Nice! I got a Jones recently as well with a 2x9 setup which I'm happy with (trigger shifters) and have had no issues with, but am thinking of a 1x9 or 1x10 on my hunqapillar (or just sell the hunqapillar). What is the crank you're using? Are you using indexed or friction on the shifters? On