Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2014-01-03 Thread Philip Williamson
I'll raise the water bottle up and toast that that sentiment, and all of you, my online friends. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:42:47 PM UTC-8, Robert Barr wrote: That's the same Tennyson poem you quoted the last time... it is lines like this that make this the

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2014-01-02 Thread EGNolan
No. I've got bar ends or DT's on my bikes, but my wife's bike has an old SunTour thumbie on the inside (I used the left shifter on the inside of the right) and I thought it may be awkward as well, but it's not. No more than pulling it back when it's placed towards the top anyway. Best, Eric

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2014-01-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
I'm doing an Alba cockpit on my father's Windsor. His bike came stock with the oldschool Suntour Barcons, so I'm going to re-use them, and those can only be used as barcons. I have thumbie bases and a bunch of friction DT shifters to play with if I decide I don't like the barcons. This

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2014-01-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/02/2014 05:54 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: One curiously ironic bit is that I'm a big fan of semi-recent Shimano reverse pull rear derailers. Pull the cable means higher gear on both the left and the right shifter. I have that set up on two bikes. My Pop's Windsor, however, has a

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2014-01-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
You are doomed. :-) It was you who guaranteed I was doomed the last time I talked up my reverse pull Shimano derailers. At least this time you included a smiley. Wanna guess how many spare rear derailers I have? It's a big number. I just bought three more a couple weeks back on blowout

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2014-01-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/02/2014 06:45 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: You are doomed. :-) She left the web, she left the loom, She made three paces thro' the room, She saw the water-lily bloom, She saw the helmet and the plume, She look'd down to Camelot. Out flew the web and floated wide; The mirror

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2014-01-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
That's the same Tennyson poem you quoted the last time, also. You are consistent. I've got a pile of 9-speed chains, and I'm in the process of storing up 9-speed cassettes. Whenever I need to make a minimum for free shipping I add a cassette. I've got one bike with Dura Ace 10 speed ft

Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2014-01-02 Thread Joan Oppel
I just HAVE to chime in: I have a reverse pull Shimano derailleur on my Bleriot BUT a standard pull Shimano derailleur on my Bike Friday. I switch between them by (literally) talking to myself about the change when I get on the bike. And I don't make wrong shifts on either bike. On the other hand,

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2014-01-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/02/2014 09:32 PM, Joan Oppel wrote: I just HAVE to chime in: I have a reverse pull Shimano derailleur on my Bleriot BUT a standard pull Shimano derailleur on my Bike Friday. I switch between them by (literally) talking to myself about the change when I get on the bike. And I don't

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2014-01-02 Thread Robert Barr
That's the same Tennyson poem you quoted the last time... it is lines like this that make this the only forum/blog I regularly read. Forgive me for going OT, but the cast of characters on this list always makes me smile. It is the most civilized, whilst opinionated and curmudgeonly forum I can

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-29 Thread Michael Hechmer
OP here. Well this has gone pretty far afield! I gather no one has experience with the Microshift BE's since no one offered any advice. I'm mostly a DT guy with BE's on the tandem so have no experience with thumbies. Here's what Pat thinks she wants.

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
Michael, that's what I started with, and it's not bad. What I discovered after multiple distance rides is I wanted positions eaten up by the shifter. Depending on how long Pat rides, it may not be an issue. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:49:21 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-29 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Did you or Pat consider mounting the thumbies so that the shifters are on the inside of the bar? Looks like a few Riv employees have their bikes set up that way. You can see it on the Appaloosa for sale: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-080.htm On Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:49:21 PM

[RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-29 Thread Coconutbill
the bosco'd appaloosa has exactly the set-up my next build is getting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-29 Thread Michael Hechmer
Thanks Shoji. That looks like it would work well pushing down with the thumb but be awkward when pulling up. No? Michael On Sunday, December 29, 2013 3:32:27 PM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Did you or Pat consider mounting the thumbies so that the shifters are on the inside of the bar?

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-28 Thread Philip Williamson
The short amount of time I've used reverso levers have been on fixed gear bikes, so I didn't have to deal with shifter placement as well. I've been considering gearing that bike up again after a dozen fixie years. Thanks to you guys, I now have a (terrible) plan to install one reverse front

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-28 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I really like the look of the Paul Thumbies, but I don't understand why more folks don't opt for vintage thumbies like Shimano Deore or Suntour XC thumbies (especially if you prefer friction shifting)... They're specifically built for that purpose and I think they're some of the best-built

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-28 Thread Bill Lindsay
Tactile bike part totems are universally soothing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-28 Thread Garth
Likely because they've not been manufactured for decades ! That's why I bought a number of them over the years , some even brand new still . Just gotta really want them , and the way to them will come . The Sun Tours are the best , I've got sets of the original ones, and the second

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-28 Thread justinaugust
IRD makes some friction and indexed thumb shifters as well. Current, easy to source, etc. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-28 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Note to self: Offer Garth $25 apiece for his stash of shifters... :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-27 Thread Garth
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2433/3644420885_6995e0403c_b.jpg This is my Franklin frame, and my Bombadil is set up the exact same way :) My use of electrical tape over cracked cork bar tape, optional ;) Ahahahaha !! On Thursday, December 26, 2013 9:39:49 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-27 Thread ted
Nice rack Steve. Is it custom made? On Thursday, December 26, 2013 7:01:20 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 12/26/2013 09:39 PM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Garth, I'd never really considered bar end brake levers with Alba's... Your description is compelling though! Between the brake and

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-27 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 12/27/2013 02:24 PM, ted wrote: Nice rack Steve. Is it custom made? Yes, The Rack Lady. I don't know if she's still making racks. Banjo Bicycles is gone, and the last image she posted on Flickr is 22 months old http://www.flickr.com/photos/26811168@N07/7005741397/ On Thursday,

[RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-27 Thread Tom Harrop
I've been thinking about trying reverse levers for a while now, but I don't want to give up the extreme convenience of bar-end shifters. Has anyone tried using reverse brake levers and mounting the thumbies right at the very ends of the bars, so that the shift levers can be positioned like

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-27 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 12/27/2013 03:59 PM, Tom Harrop wrote: I've been thinking about trying reverse levers for a while now, but I don't want to give up the extreme convenience of bar-end shifters. Has anyone tried using reverse brake levers and mounting the thumbies right at the very ends of the bars, so that

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-27 Thread Tom Harrop
Yep, but I wonder if anyone's tried mounting thumbies right at the ends of the bar to have the shift levers in roughly the same position as if they were bar end shifters. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-27 Thread Tom Harrop
Found it by googling. This is what I meanthttp://www.flickr.com/photos/27209537@N00/3454710706! Sorry about the multiple posts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-27 Thread Garth
Ahahaha ! that's the same photo that I saw doing both Tom :) Myself I would find that a bit cluttered. For me, having shifters at the front near middle is more usably friendly to reach forward, rather than back . On Friday, December 27, 2013 4:23:18 PM UTC-5, Tom Harrop wrote: Found

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-27 Thread Edwin W
It seems like you usually have the brake levers or thumbies taking up a little real estate, and the others in the bar ends. I choose to have the shifters in the bar ends (they are called bar ends shifters, after all, and you don't have to buy the extra hardware) and the brake levers taking up

[RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Here's my setup:http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/10597199104/ Putting the shifters toward the middle of the bars leaves the whole bar through the front curve available for hand positions. Having the shifters immediately in front of the brake levers really inter fears with that.

[RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-26 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Patrick, that is a nice setup! I may have to give that a try after I play around with the Alba's on my Atlantis for a little while. Thanks for sharing! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-26 Thread Garth
I put mine where Patrick puts his , any notice the angle of the left and right are little different. The best way is take the required wrenches with you along for a ride around the neighborhood to figure it out what one prefers ! I keep a set of all required allen wrenches for the bike

[RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
There is nothing quite like mile 70 (or hour 7 on a trail ride) to reveal the weak points in your setup, be it saddle position, bar tilt, shifter location, etc. I took several long rides to dial in the shifters before I was happy and added the tape. What I find interesting is I prefer climbing

[RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, Tony. Oh, I should mention that I tried putting them on the stem, but the reach was too far for technical trail descents or in traffic, making shifting a real challenge. The only thing I haven't tried is bar end shifters. No idea how I'd like those. Enjoy finding what works! There is

[RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-26 Thread Garth
Bar end brake levers give you a completely free bar from your shifters to the end . I tried mtb levers at first, and it just seemed awkward to me and a waste of hand space. The Bar end levers to me are a marriage made in heaven for Alba type bars !! And being reversed I find it even

[RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-26 Thread sameness
I've wondered why more people don't use them, I think many don't even know bar end brake levers exist, let alone how wonderful it is to not have to negotiate mtb lever mounts where your hands can be ! My favorite just-cruising-along position on Albas is to rest my open palms on the

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-26 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Garth, I'd never really considered bar end brake levers with Alba's... Your description is compelling though! Between the brake and shifter locations you describe you really preserve the max amount of the bar for hand positions. Pictures? -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-26 Thread Edwin W
Why not bar end shifters in the bar end? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup

2013-12-26 Thread Tony DeFilippo
His looking bike and bar setup, thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,