Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2022-05-23 Thread Doug H.
Thanks for the quick response. I'm looking forward to dynamo and no more charging batteries! Except for my Wabi which may end up with dynamo too. Doug On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:21:41 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > Hi! The Edelux light was dim and by the time that I got it in the

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2022-05-23 Thread Leah Peterson
Hi! The Edelux light was dim and by the time that I got it in the shop, it was dead. I got a replacement and it’s been fine ever since. > On May 23, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Doug H. wrote: > > I am reviving this old post just to see if the Edelux light was the culprit? > I am installing Dynamo on

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2022-05-23 Thread Doug H.
I am reviving this old post just to see if the Edelux light was the culprit? I am installing Dynamo on my Clem currently (Thanks Roberta for the B Taillight!). I ordered a B headlight so won't be using the Edelux but want to know about Leah's issue resolution. Thanks, Doug On Monday, November

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-11-29 Thread Mr. Ray
I'm not sure if this was mentioned anywhere but for SON hubs it is important to not put much grease on the skewer otherwise the hub can malfunction: "A lot of grease on a 5mm or 15mm skewer may block the pressure compensation system. Nevertheless, to avoid corrosion, we recommend a slight

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-05-03 Thread Doug H.
I can see the virtues of dynamo lighting but I'm still rocking the portable rechargeable ones on my ride. All the wiring and contact points and all that would complicate my bike too much. I hope you get it resolved Leah. Your bike is awesome-sauce! Doug On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 1:16:12 AM

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-30 Thread Roberta
Andy, yes, this is the hard stuff! It’s freeing knowing I could ride at any time and not worry about lighting. In college I had bottle- on-wheel generator system. Talk about drag! Still, I always had working light. Peter White and Analog come thru with their “legendary” customer service.

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-30 Thread George Schick
Yikes! I didn't realize we'd ever had an unpleasant exchange of which you needed to be wary. Are you sure you're not getting me confused with someone else? In any case, yes I thought the bike would have to go back to the shop for mounting of the headset bracket and moving the wiring,

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-30 Thread Leah Peterson
George, if I’ve had an unpleasant exchange with someone I tend to be wary. Thanks for clarifying that you’re asking in good faith. Yes, the bike will go back to the shop. I’m hardly a light-mounting and wiring expert. Even if I did have a nice long talk with the great Peter White this morning.

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-30 Thread George Schick
I ask because I'm "Curious George!" Since Peter spec'd a headset mount, that means taking off the bars/stem, unscrewing the headset lock nut, and installing the mount in place of a spacer. Then, the process is reversed, but it will mean playing around with the headset adjustable nut and the

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-30 Thread Joe Bernard
I believe it's a taller mount in the same spot at the hole in the fork. Which would be simple enough to do at home by itself, but the headlight needs to be mounted and wired up at the LBS, too. On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 11:54:03 AM UTC-7 George Schick wrote: > Does this mean that the bike

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-30 Thread Leah Peterson
Why do you ask? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 30, 2021, at 11:54 AM, George Schick wrote: > > Does this mean that the bike has to go back to the LBS one more time in > order to get that headset mount installed? > >> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 12:29:51 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >>

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-30 Thread George Schick
Does this mean that the bike has to go back to the LBS one more time in order to get that headset mount installed? On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 12:29:51 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > It’s time for a finale to this saga. I know more about dynamo systems now > than I did before,

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-30 Thread Joe Bernard
This is good news! I like good things! 拾  Joe "less gnashing, more joy" Bernard On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 10:29:51 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > It’s time for a finale to this saga. I know more about dynamo systems now > than I did before, and that’s worth something. Thanks

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-30 Thread Leah Peterson
It’s time for a finale to this saga. I know more about dynamo systems now than I did before, and that’s worth something. Thanks to everyone (especially Peter White) for sharing their expertise with me. Peter White and Analog will have me back on the road with a working light soon, and I won’t

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-30 Thread Peter White
Reversing the wheel, by itself, cannot possibly cause the lights to work, stop working, work differently, work better or worse. The orientation of the wheel with that hub is absolutely irrelevant. Something else had to have changed. Leah, call me, please. On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 10:32 PM Leah

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-30 Thread ascpgh
"I can’t exactly go without one." Generator hubs and LED lighting will do this to you. They are the hard stuff, no gateway necessary. I'll be enjoying my SON dynamo and Luxos B/Pixeo lights riding to and from work today, concentrating on being thankful for the gift of their functions. They

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-29 Thread Peter Adler
Edeluxes (of all generations) are LED lights. I don't know of any light manufacturer who uses the same model name for both LED and non-LED models. I'd be hard-pressed these days to name any name-brand bike light manufacturer who makes anything except LED lights. As with any electrical circuit,

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-29 Thread George Schick
I assume SON, like everyone else nowadays, is using LED lighting. These require circuitry other than just a pair of wires running to a battery or a dynamo to provide the correct voltage to the diodes such as semiconductors to amplify and/or limit the voltage levels. If there is a failure in

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-29 Thread Joe Bernard
This dang light! The one they have says 'bare wire' and you already have the coaxial thing they sell so you should be good to go with just swapping the lamps and the shop will plug the wires in. Let's hope Analog says "Yep, what Joe said!" On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 5:32:42 PM UTC-7

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-29 Thread Leah Peterson
I was hoping but I haven’t heard anything. I would just order it but I’m sure there’s other parts I need for the wiring and i don’t know what they are Sent from my iPad > On Apr 29, 2021, at 5:31 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > The Analog site shows a pink one in stock. Will they swap em for

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-29 Thread Joe Bernard
The Analog site shows a pink one in stock. Will they swap em for you, then let Schmidt deal with the light you sent back? On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 4:27:40 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > Update: it’s the light. > > > The mechanic who installed the dyno system on my Clem

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-29 Thread Leah Peterson
Update: it’s the light. The mechanic who installed the dyno system on my Clem for me last year was working today, and he handled my Platy. He investigated the whole system, ensured that all the wires and connections were correct and sturdy. The rear tail light does light up, so it seems

[RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-29 Thread masmojo
I'll weigh in a on a few things Yes, Contacts on the right (drive) side. Notchiness? It's just an element of the way the magnets work, it will be worse when the light is on and when they bike is in the air. Once the bike is on the ground with weight on it; it will be imperceptible. Dynamo hubs

[RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-29 Thread Ed Felker
SON hubs can have internal problems. I have had two of them, disk-specific, same wheel, that have stopped working. When they did fail, it was immediately obvious due to a prominent buzzing noise. That noise stopped when the hub was disconnected. Both were on our tandem. In one case the light

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-29 Thread Roberta
Leah, You have the exact same (except for the color) headlight on your Clem L. Could you take both bikes to the shop and swap headlights--or at least put the Clem L headlight on the Platy, even if it is just to test? That way you'll be sure to rule in or rule out the headlight. Roberta On

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
I changed my mind, the whole schlamozzle needs to go back to Analog. The hub isn't right, the headlight isn't right, and you're going to have the shop detach the headlght from hub and bike anyway. I say have them send the whole wheel and light back so James or Candice can test both and see

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Oh bother! Yeah, as someone else said I think that light needs to go back. Regardless of noise and notchiness at the dyno it's apparently sending current, the headlight just isn't getting it. On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 8:16:26 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > I desperately

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Jay Lonner
I was wondering the same, but if the switch were off I don't think the tail light would come on either. Jay Lonner Bellingham, WA On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 8:12 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > This is undoubtedly a stupid question but I like to hit the easy stuff > just in case it got overlooked (like

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Leah Peterson
I desperately tried all the positions - and remember, the taillight works. I wanted so badly for this to be the solution… Sent from my iPad > On Apr 28, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > This is undoubtedly a stupid question but I like to hit the easy stuff just > in case it got

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
This is undoubtedly a stupid question but I like to hit the easy stuff just in case it got overlooked (like the car dies and the mechanic calls to say it's out of gas): Is the light in the On position? My Googling tells me you have On/Off/Auto and I don't see that it's obvious which position

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Jon Dukeman
Ask Peter if he would warranty the light and replace it. He replaced a light for me when the bracket broke. He is the #1 distributer in the USA On Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 8:43 PM Leah Peterson wrote: > No, nice and tight. And this headlight has been testy for the bike shop, > too. Wouldn’t come on.

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Leah Peterson
No, nice and tight. And this headlight has been testy for the bike shop, too. Wouldn’t come on. When when the mechanic flipped the wheel so the hub is on the drive side, the lights both worked. He couldn’t explain WHY but at least the light was on. Now I have a lovely taillight and NO

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Jon Dukeman
Connector at the hub come loose on the way home? Check for loose connecter. You will soon be an expert on dyno lighting systems On Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 8:32 PM Leah Peterson wrote: > Well. The taillight works great and the headlight didn’t work at ALL. I > now wonder if the Edelux is the issue???

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread rltilley
I have an older model SON that I got in 2000 or so and it only spins a few revolutions before stopping. I have 3 or so new SON’s and none of those have that friction. None of mine have been loud at all and I think the notchiness is part of the design. Magnets are in there and I don’t think

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Collin A
Leah, I (and Ben) would really recommend trying the dynamo system 1. without any lights to see how the hib rolls and 2. without the rear light to isolate any wiring issues. I've had my SON hub for more than a year now and it was never as notchy or dragy as yours (unless there was a short of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Leah Peterson
Eric: Yours is very quiet! But do I detect the tiniest sound? It sounds like my hub only mine was much louder. How long have this SON been in your employ? Joe: Good points, all. My SON only really has a few months of wear. The video I sent above was from December when I first thought the hub

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Next question for this saga, for folks who know and ride these things: Do SON hubs break in and get quieter as the miles pile up? Like they're extra stiff and notchy at first, but last longer than other dynos? Joe Bernard On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 3:54:15 PM UTC-7 Ben Miller wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Ben Miller
Leah, I'm happy to hear the wheel flip helped! Woohoo ! (Even if it is a mystery as to why??) I hope you now get your bike back and can enjoy those nighttime trails! As for the sound: it mostly sounds normal too me, but there is a secondary second in there that sounds like leaves rustling to

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Oh for Pete's sake! Yep, that's definitely quiet..quieter than the one I had by a lot. On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 3:16:35 PM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote: > Leah: > > Here’s my SON 28 hub in action. It’s totally silent. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Naturally I didn't actually answer the question pertaining to the video. That sounds normal based on my memory of doing the same hand-spin on my SON hub. It was kind of alarming, but seemed to work fine out on the road. On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 2:44:18 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Wrong wiring: I mixed up ground and power wires. On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 3:44 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > In the few cases I've felt "notchiness" it has been because the wiring to > the light/s was wrong. Forget exactly how, but fixing the wiring solved the > problem. > > IIRC, wrong wiring also

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
This is pretty vague "don't have them anymore" memory so grab that grain of salt and hope for more current real-world responses: My Dahon had some kinda generic-from-China dyno and it was sorta notchty. My Cheviot had a Shimano dyno which was similar. My Atlantis (built and bought from Analog)

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Patrick Moore
In the few cases I've felt "notchiness" it has been because the wiring to the light/s was wrong. Forget exactly how, but fixing the wiring solved the problem. IIRC, wrong wiring also caused a "stuttering" sound in one case. FWIW. On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 3:18 PM Leah Peterson wrote: > Friends,

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Jon Dukeman
Make sure that your quick release is tight. And the axle is firmly in the drop outs. On both sides. On Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 3:18 PM Leah Peterson wrote: > Friends, > > One last thing. The shop called. They flipped the wheel and say the light > is now responding really well but the wheel is still

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Peter White
There have been three versions of the SON hub for most bicycles. The first was for rim brakes only, designed in the early 1990s. The spoke flanges were polished aluminum, and they were connected by a black painted steel center section, similar to the construction of the early Phil Wood hubs. That

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-27 Thread Ben Miller
Oh wow, Leah! In theory that *shouldn't* matter, I don't think. It's coaxial wire, so there should be minimal electrical impedance (if that were a double strand though, definitely no bueno). The wraps around the forks also shouldn't be issue (for coaxial or double). The additional resistance

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-27 Thread Joe Bernard
Holy cow that's a a lot of wire. Lots of wraps around the fork, then a big bundle behind the bottom bracket. Hey electricity people, would all that length cause current issues going to the lights?* *I realize this is probably a really dumb question. I'm good for that! On Tuesday, April 27,

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-27 Thread Dorothy C
Ben, Analog built the wheels and did the anodizing, Leah got the frame from Riv and had the rest of the build done locally, from what I recall On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 2:47:12 PM UTC-7 Ben Miller wrote: > Hm, I seem to recall the movies being really dark, too dark to see which > side its

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-27 Thread Ben Miller
Hm, I seem to recall the movies being really dark, too dark to see which side its connected on. But didn't Analog wire it up? With the connector wire being on oneside vs the other (drive vs nondrive?) Ben On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 2:24:34 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > Don’t

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-27 Thread Leah Peterson
Don’t take this from me, Collin! 藍 Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 27, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Collin A wrote: > > That shouldn't matter for the Son Dynamos. Per their FAQ page: > https://nabendynamo.de/en/service/faqs/ > > > > But hey, it might solve it? > > Collin in Sacramento >> On Tuesday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-27 Thread Collin A
That shouldn't matter for the Son Dynamos. Per their FAQ page: https://nabendynamo.de/en/service/faqs/ [image: Capture.PNG] But hey, it might solve it? Collin in Sacramento On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 2:14:12 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > Interesting catch by Analog, after

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-27 Thread Leah Peterson
Interesting catch by Analog, after reviewing the photo: the wheel is backwards. The connector for the hub should be on the right side. The drive side. I can’t believe none of us noticed! I’ll call the shop and tell them to flip it. That’s a start. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 25, 2021, at

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-25 Thread Leah Peterson
SON 28! Sent from my iPad > On Apr 25, 2021, at 12:20 PM, brian tester wrote: > >  > Is the hub a SON Delux or a SON28? I ask because the Delux was technically > developed for 20" wheel bikes, with higher rotation rates. While it works > fine built into a larger diameter wheel (and will

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-25 Thread brian tester
Is the hub a SON Delux or a SON28? I ask because the Delux was technically developed for 20" wheel bikes, with higher rotation rates. While it works fine built into a larger diameter wheel (and will introduce less pedalling resitance and will weigh slightly less than the SON28,) it will produce

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-25 Thread Joe Bernard
"I don’t have SON or SP hub but a shimano. I’ve used the same wheel on two different bikes and feel there is some difference in the feel of the same hub between the two bikes. I am much more likely to feel a bit of vibration on the Atlantis at certain speeds than I am with the same wheel on my

[RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-25 Thread Collin A
I'm late to the party, but this is eerily similar to what happened on my Partner's AHH when I switched lights to the edelux (after it didn't work as well as I'd hoped for trails on my bike)! Edelux is finicky with tailights in that you need to get the polarity right (- on the TL to the flat

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-25 Thread Bill Schairer
Along the lines of adjusting beam, i keep tweaking mine until I get what I want then, in a dark garage, I walk the bike towards a wall to see where the cutoff line is that Peter talks about. For my conditions, I think I like that line to be maybe 3-4 feet up the wall. But, try that with the

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-25 Thread Ben Miller
Leah, that'd be so cool if you could just bike over and we could put it up in the stand for troubleshooting! I'd be all for that! On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 6:02:27 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > I'll use right/left, which is actually how I think about it when I'm not > trying to sound like

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Joe Bernard
I'll use right/left, which is actually how I think about it when I'm not trying to sound like a smart guy who knows bike words. When you push the front shifter all the way to the hardest gear up front, it's pushing the derailer to the right as you're looking down at it. In that hard/hard gear

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Leah Peterson
This is exactly what I do. However, I know about trimming derailleurs and so even when I nudge the front derailleur I cannot stop the chatter. So, what can that mean? But it does go away in other gears. I’m stuck with chatter in the HARD-HARD. (Leahspeak for whatever those gears are called. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Joe Bernard
I contend that only doing it in the big/small rings means the fd isn't traveling far enough to clear the chain on that combo. On a 2-speed setup like this it's common for the rider to use the friction shifter like index: all the one way for the small ring, all the way the other for big. I think

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Garth
The sound from the video is like a rhythmic ratcheting/creaking sound as Leah pedals, it's not a FD rubbing sound as that has a smooth surface and is higher pitched smooth metallic sound. I'm listening to it loud and with headphones, eyes closed. The obvious question is does the sound remain

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Joe Bernard
Only in the hardest gear? (goes off) AHA! Bring these words to the shop folks: High Limit screw needs to be turned out a smidge so the front derailer will move a little further past the big chainring. I think you're getting a slight grind on the cage in the highest gear because the chain is

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Joe Bernard
Front derailers are the bane of my existence. I love the look of the nice Campagnolo on my custom, but I'm super-OCD-fastidious about chain rub and constantly adjusting the shifter to avoid it. My Susie doesn't HAVE a front derailer, all I have to do is shift the back. No chain grinding, no

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Leah Peterson
Joe, I bet you’re right about that! It is constant and always in the Hard-Hard gear, which is what I nearly always ride. I shall save these words and tell them to the shop when I get my bike back, do a test ride in the lot and invariably it makes the SAME noise. Ben, it seems that way to me,

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Joe Bernard
The rhythmic noise sounds like the chain barely grazing the front derailer, like what would happen if the chainring is ever so slightly out of round. In this scenario you could think you have the cage centered over the chain, then not notice the chain wobbling over to graze the cage while

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Ben Miller
I believe you about the sound, but its such a hard thing to capture over the video. I think I hear the drivetrain noise, but hard to tell the other "electrical" one. I think video phones are not ideal for capturing such things; I tried once again to record the SON noise without any real success

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Ian A
Along with aligning the beam, also make sure there are no shorts in the system. The noise you hear from the hub you hear while riding may be from vibration, which often occurs if the skewer isn't tight enough. IanA Alberta Canada On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:46:33 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Joe Bernard
Sorry kids, I posted the same time as Ben with similar information but his had more evidence in hand. Listen to Ben! On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:22:56 PM UTC-7 Ben Miller wrote: > Oh no Leah! I hope I'm not making you more anxious  > > A SON hub still be mostly quiet. I tried taking

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Ben Miller
Oh no Leah! I hope I'm not making you more anxious  A SON hub still be mostly quiet. I tried taking video of my two in the stand, but honestly its too soft of a sound to properly pick out (my water heater, freezer, wind, dog, and passing traffic all made it too difficult to properly document)!

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Joe Bernard
My experience is minimal to the point of being basically useless to you BUT... I did have a SON hub for a while and it wasn't entirely quiet. Assuming it's not egregiously loud I might guess that different brands of dynohub just sound different. But this doesn't explain the connection not

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Leah Peterson
Ben, This is why I cry in the parking lot after I drop my bike off. Because I know it’s completely plausible that my bike will come back in worse shape than I left it because shops in this town don’t know about bikes like mine - bikes with dyno and fenders. I’ve had a lot of parts installed

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Ben Miller
I wouldn't say that SON dynamo hubs are supposed to be silent, at least not in the same way a normal front hub is silent. It's not to way that the noise might not be the issue, but some noise is to be expected. As for grease, from the SON website : Do

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Leah Peterson
Update: the mechanic spun the front wheel and expected the hub to be silent - it’s not. He is wondering if it needs lube in there. Also, he fiddled with the connection, spun the wheel, and the light wouldn’t illuminate. So, something seems off... But I do think I need that mount Peter

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Leah Peterson
Hi All, I just pulled into the parking lot of the LBS and read your messages. Since I’m already here, I’ll have them take a look at the connections and see if they can find where the noises (remember I said it sounds like current?) originate. Also, there is the matter of the flickering rear

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Peter White
On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 2:08 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > Leah, > > The advice you've gotten sounds wise, I think talking to Peter White first > is a good idea. If you can show him your videos I'd be curious to hear what > he thinks about this: Your Platy headlight is mounted behind the top of the >

[RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Joe Bernard
I don't know why I forgot Analog, the folks that sold you the wheels. I would email them first, James and Candice ride this stuff in the woods all the time and I'm sure have come across a bad wire/connection in their travels. On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:08:54 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

[RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-24 Thread Joe Bernard
Leah, The advice you've gotten sounds wise, I think talking to Peter White first is a good idea. If you can show him your videos I'd be curious to hear what he thinks about this: Your Platy headlight is mounted behind the top of the fender and is throwing a big shadow directly in front,