Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

John G What have you decided on your repair method??? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 10:12:50 AM UTC-4, John G. wrote: > Again, thanks for the advice and sympathy, everyone. I don't want to > overgeneralize NJ drivers, but I think the abiding sense of danger I

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Again, thanks for the advice and sympathy, everyone. I don't want to overgeneralize NJ drivers, but I think the abiding sense of danger I feel when riding in Hudson/Bergen is more a matter of incredibly congested and poorly maintained roads than ill intent. There's a ton of great riding in

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

This stereotype is certainly true about San Francisco compared to other cities around here. Different areas have different vibes, and the one in SF is cut-thrust-pounce. You quickly adapt to that style of driving or find yourself being pushed out of the way all day. It's simply not true that

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Garth, Cant speak for anywhere else besides NJ since this is where I spent most of my time. We can always generalize by saying there are bad drivers everywhere, of course there is, but what of size do we see it? I do not know everywhere but I do know of my driving experience in Jersey. Its of

[RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

I'm really sorry about the bike. I hope it turns out to be fixable. I'm also glad you weren't seriously hurt. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

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In regards to certain drivers(or any stereotype) in certain areas being "the worst" , I have lived in a number of areas and I have often heard those locals to the area exclaim it. I won't bother to say where, because it's every-where and no-where. It does not matter the time either, it's the

[RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

+1 on Rivendell helping out on a crashed bike. My Bleriot is better than new! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Be the change, Lee. Be the change. Mark in Beacon, 20yrs NYC, Mom Lives Jersey Shore On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 10:27:38 PM UTC-4, Lee Legrand wrote: > > It is not a particular person or thing. New Jersey drivers are pretty > bad. Not all but if you live in upper NJ driving down many main

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

In my experience, there is a kernel of truth in most stereotypes. When the same anecdotal observation is repeated over and over, it turns into a stereotype. Which means it happens commonly but not always. Alan NYC and frequent rider in NJ. Sent from my iPad > On Oct 13, 2017, at 10:45 PM,

[RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Hey John, Echo all the sympathies etc from the great emo support and good advice group here. Here's what Riv can add-- We have an unofficial non-policy of mimizing the financial fixit or replacement pain for hard-luck cases, accidents. Let me repeat the unofficial part. We do it often as we

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

I rescinded my last comment since it sounds rude but NJ drivers are not like every driver in the 50 states no more than NJ/ NYC residence are like every other resident in the fifty states. Some states spring different people based on the environment there. I do think NJ/NYC residence are more

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

It is not a particular person or thing. New Jersey drivers are pretty bad. Not all but if you live in upper NJ driving down many main roads, you will find it the case. I have never heard of anyone complain about any state drivers unlike NJ drivers. These are facts people who live in upper NJ

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Yes, Lee, actually what you wrote is the definition of "stereotype": a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing. There are nutballs behind the wheel or on wheels in all fifty States and many other places around the world. There are also

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Eric Double Ooo, I never would have thought of adding the bar to Nash. I really enjoyed this John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 7:47:18 PM UTC-4, ericf3 wrote: > Ooo > > Shades of Ogden Nashbar... > > On Oct 13, 2017 4:44 PM, "John Hawrylak" >

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Ooo Shades of Ogden Nashbar... On Oct 13, 2017 4:44 PM, "John Hawrylak" wrote: > Deacon > > If called by a panther, don't anther > > John Hawrylak > Woodstown NJ > > On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 7:09:50 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: > >> Och! Makes me thankful I

[RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Aye, John. If they try to horn in on my, I put things on paws, then hoof it so I needn't bearly claw my way free. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 5:44:37 PM UTC-6, John Hawrylak wrote: > > Deacon > > If called by a panther, don't anther > > John Hawrylak > Woodstown NJ > >

[RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Deacon If called by a panther, don't anther John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 7:09:50 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Och! Makes me thankful I mostly have to deal with the occasional bear, > mountain lion, and buck deer and bull elk in rut. Thankful your mostly OK.

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I feel for ya John , had more than my share of "stuff happens" ! As "tempting" as revenge in some manner seems, it only turns the "victim" into a "perp" and it never ends, now both parties are both perps and victims and all is chaos. Once is more than enough, thank you ! Just today on a

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Hi John, I live in NJ and in the north. It is not a stereotype, unfortunately. On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 7:04 PM, John Hawrylak wrote: > I live in far southern NJ, very rural. Although the northern people may > be tougher, the driving up in the Newark area is not

[RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Och! Makes me thankful I mostly have to deal with the occasional bear, mountain lion, and buck deer and bull elk in rut. Thankful your mostly OK. Heal well, and keep that beautiful positive attitude! With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 5:30:11 PM UTC-6, John G. wrote: > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

I live in far southern NJ, very rural. Although the northern people may be tougher, the driving up in the Newark area is not much differnet than in Philly or any major city. I would be careful about too many stereotypes. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 10:46:23 AM

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Its New Jersey Alan. Home of the worst drivers. On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 10:41 AM, alan lavine wrote: > John, > Are you referring to "River Road" that runs through Palisades Interstate > Park? We ride there all the time, and the riders heading south reach very > fast

[RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

John, Are you referring to "River Road" that runs through Palisades Interstate Park? We ride there all the time, and the riders heading south reach very fast speeds, because they can. I said to my wife just the other day that when riding in the city, the other cyclists have become more

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

To Patrick Moore, It's Jersey. Home of bad drivers and cyclist who ride on sidewalks and against traffic on regular basis. You have to be extra careful getting around NJ since everyone tends to be Formula 1 race car drivers and the way they drive, they translate that into the cycling habits as

[RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Glad you're alright, and sorry about the attitude of the other fellow... Bilenky is great: I had RBW send some dropouts to Bilenky so they could replace the bent hanger: did a *beautiful* job on the metalwork.

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Did not know they had a cycle shop in Jersey city. One of the most diverse cities in New Jersey, also one of the most crowded cities since it is close to New York City. On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:25 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Sorry to

[RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Sorry to hear this, John. I'm glad you are okay. I see too many riders around my town riding without lights, or even light clothing. In fact, I was thinking the other night, coming home from a friend's house, I'm more likely to crash into another cyclist I didn't see that to get bonked by a

[RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Yikes! Heal up quick. Hopefully you've got another bike to roll in the meantime while it's off in the capable hands of Bilenky (get some S couplers while they're bringing it back to new?) And in the future may you never need frame correction, but if you do and want to stay local, Johnny Coast

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Jersey Cycles in Jersey City! On Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 8:05:15 PM UTC-4, Lee Legrand wrote: > > New Jersey Cycles in Linden or Elizabeth? > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:57 PM, John G. > wrote: > >> Thanks, guys! Glad to hear Bilenky comes highly recommended. I checked

[RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Ouch! That sucks, especially with the other guy adding insult to injury. Really glad to hear you're OK man. I wouldn't be surprised if your Atlantis can't be made good as new-- I bent a fork pretty badly on my touring bike a few years ago and that was fixable (no damage evident to the HT or

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

So sorry but glad you are okay. Check underneath the down tube just behind the head tube for any bulges. Commonly caused by head on crashes. I hope you are back on the road soon. Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

New Jersey Cycles in Linden or Elizabeth? On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:57 PM, John G. wrote: > Thanks, guys! Glad to hear Bilenky comes highly recommended. I checked out > the Philly show last year, and it was awesome. I'm definitely pretty damn > sore, but I'm honestly just

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Thanks, guys! Glad to hear Bilenky comes highly recommended. I checked out the Philly show last year, and it was awesome. I'm definitely pretty damn sore, but I'm honestly just relieved that I'm in one piece. Gotta give a shout out to my local shop, Jersey Cycles. They were a sympathetic

Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

I will 3rd that recommendation. I do not know of any frame builders in NJ but the closest one I believe is Stephen Bilenky so your frame is going to the right place. Glad you are ok as well. There is also Winter Bicycle that recently moved from the west coast here so that is two in the vicinity

[RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

Damn John, Very sorry to hear that -- and glad to hear you're not hurt. I frequent paths along both sides the Hudson, often as early as 6:00 - 6:30am. No doubt it was pretty much pitch black at that hour yesterday. I'd guess if your shop thinks your frame warrants a trip to Belinky they're