Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-02 Thread Ron Mc
I have a bike I ride 28mm Paselas and they stick great in the wet, including thick film in a heavy rain. We usually don't get fast enough on bicycles for hydroplaning to be a concern. So most slicks will do the job just fine. As you get into larger tires, though, you have more tolerance for

[RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Peter
Hi everyone. Please tell me what tire and width of tire you'd recommend for a novice commuter riding on wet (rainy) and poor city streets. I find that I don't feel very safe on wet streets and thus suffer a loss of confidence unless I ride quite slowly--obviously I want to keep riding and

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
I can't answer the question directly, but this indirect information may be worth the stating: I long ago found that treadless tires, particularly Fat Boys, were much more likely to slip on wet streets than other tires I used on the same bikes, these including similarly wide (nominal 35, more like

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/01/2013 12:16 AM, Peter wrote: Hi everyone. Please tell me what tire and width of tire you'd recommend for a novice commuter riding on wet (rainy) and poor city streets. I find that I don't feel very safe on wet streets and thus suffer a loss of confidence unless I ride quite

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Christopher Chen
I would ride the biggest Schwalbe Marathon's you can. I currently run 700C x 38, but I think your C-dale will probably only take up to 28s? In either case, I've done some accidental test runs, and they're pretty good (as long as you stay on the tread--the sidewalls don't corner too well on wet

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
I believe -- this is a suggestion, not a pronouncement -- that tread and rubber quality are more important than width. Come to think of it, I also commuted with 26X32 mm Paselas and, while I did not find these sturdy, they posed no problem in the rain. Note that I don't ride often in the rain,

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Christopher Chen
Yes, this is true, Patrick, but he said he rides on some crappy (or poor) roads, where volume matters. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I believe -- this is a suggestion, not a pronouncement -- that tread and rubber quality are more important than

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
I agree to a point, though I've commuted on bad city pavement (eastern Copper, NE, and adjacent streets, including the Fairgrounds, here in ABQ, NM -- pretty rough stuff) with Paselas, and in fact much narrower, with no problems wet or dry (175, with loads). I want to point out the option of

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread William
I want to point out the option of narrower -- meaning faster or, less effort required -- tires. Mounting evidence says this is not the case. Narrower is empirically not faster in controlled experiments. Famously by Jan Heine, and repeated on a much smaller scale by my 6th grade son in his

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
Yes, but this is a red herring, since we are talking about Marathons compared to Paselas, and folding Paselas at that. Sure, if you use his 42 mm 650B Extra Legeres you'll have bulk, pudge, and speed; but the narrower 622 (23, 26, 29, 32) models are also claimed to roll very well. Jan's (editor

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread William
Sorry you lost me. What's a red herring? I said if you compare tires of similar construction, narrower is not faster. Paselas are a great example since they come in or have come in 700x23,25,28,30,32,35,37. Among those tires, all with similar construction, mounting evidence shows that

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:54 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry you lost me. What's a red herring? If you mean, what does the term 'red herring' mean, it is (at least for this conversation) an irrelevant instance offered in rebuttal. If you mean, how is my example of a Marathon a red

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread William
Well Patrick, that explains where you lost me. I know what the term 'Red Herring' means. I never said a word about Marathon tires, so that's where you lost me. I've never ridden a Marathon. I've never ridden any Schwalbe tire. You got me confused with somebody else. The reason I posted

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Philip Williamson
Ask him if he wants to port the android tire pressure app to iOS for next year. http://www.biketinker.com/2013/projects/pressure-app/ Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Rod Holland
I can give good reports on Continental Contacts 700c x 37mm tires for wet weather, urban commuting. Good tread, grippy rubber, very flat resistant over 8000 miles ridden. Roll somewhat sedately. On the other hand, Grand Bois Cypres Extra Leger 700 x 32mm also do nicely in wet weather, roll like

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
I made my statement while erroneously reading yours in reference to the OP's suggestion about Marathons, and not noticing your qualification as discussed. (See? It was complex!) By not noticing said qualification (videlicet, that you were comparing tires of different width in the same suppleness