[RBW] Re: Flat pedal revolution manifesto

2012-12-13 Thread Michael Hechmer
I don't want to start an argument, but this article only deals with mountain bikes, he never mentions road bikes other than to refer to people falling over at traffic lights because they couldn't get out of their pedals. That's a red herring. Yes it can be true for hard core road pedals, but

[RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

2012-12-13 Thread C.J. Filip
A low-trail Saluki (across a wider size range that currently available) made with Roadeo tubing might fill a small gap in their line. The Randonneur market being hot right now, IMHO. Seems there always a few hurt feelings in the comment sections of blogs like Off the Beaten Path and Lovely

[RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

2012-12-13 Thread Mike
I can't imagine something coming along to replace the Hilsen, especially with the San Marcos and Roadeo also available. The Hilsen is a great bike that is extremely versatile. I get the feeling that Gran is extremely happy with the Hilsen and plans on keeping it around for many years, much like

[RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?

2012-12-13 Thread tdusky
2 things not mentioned yet. Aluminum fenders can be easily adjusted for a perfect line with your tire by slightly pulling open (decreasing overall radius) or pinching (increasing overall radius) the fender. Stainless fenders are too rigid to bend. I have a set of Honjos on one bike and a set of

[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-13 Thread Matthew J
Bravo. I tried clipless when it was new - did not like it. Few years back tried again to see how advances in technology might change my feelings. Still don't like it. Cannot begin to count how many total strangers have wondered when I am going to get with clipless. And heck, my bikes

[RBW] Re: Flat pedal revolution manifesto

2012-12-13 Thread Matthew J
I have not had time to read the article yet, but notice the first chapter is titled pro-flat does not mean anti-clipless. Given a rather high percentage of more expensive and even less expensive bikes use clipless, I am not certain posting a countering opinion is necessary. Clipless is

Re: [RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 06:26 -0800, Matthew J wrote: And heck, my bikes have Campy Super Record, MKS Kierin and White Industry platform pedals respectively. One would think even the most casual cyclists would be aware that I have put a lot of thought (and $) into my pedal choices. Do you

[RBW] WTB silver shifter

2012-12-13 Thread james
Well, I've managed to break another silver shifter. Just the left one this time. My bike falls sometimes, lets just say. I was wondering if anyone out there had similar issues and happened to have just a left shifter, I don't need the bar end pod, which is just fine. If nobody does, maybe

[RBW] Re: Flat pedal revolution manifesto

2012-12-13 Thread SteveD
Not to knock SPDs, everyone has their preferences. But I like my Grip Kings. They're pretty darn comfortable compared to when I used SPDs.I feel that I have better control over how my feet settle in on flats. The SPDs seemed to be causing my feet to go numb, and my knees were getting beat up

Re: [RBW] WTB silver shifter

2012-12-13 Thread Peter Morgano
Maybe pick up a nice twin legged kickstand while you are at it? On Dec 13, 2012 10:54 AM, james meine...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I've managed to break another silver shifter. Just the left one this time. My bike falls sometimes, lets just say. I was wondering if anyone out there had similar

[RBW] Re: Flat pedal revolution manifesto

2012-12-13 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Obviously every cyclist has his/her own experience and can decide what equipment he/she prefers. That said, a lot of new and experienced cyclists (including me) who use platforms receive a steady stream of advice to go clipless. I tried cli -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Flat pedal revolution manifesto

2012-12-13 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I tried clipless and didn't see any advantages that made it worthwhile to change my shoes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Flat pedal revolution manifesto

2012-12-13 Thread bwphoto
I read about this guy in an article in I think Dirt Rag or maybe Bicycle Time this past spring. The article was a column by a mountain bike racer who could not adapt to clipless, he was encouraged to try flat pedals by his strength coach who I think was this same guy. Anyway, it opened up a

[RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

2012-12-13 Thread Joe Bernard
My impression is that the next bike in the pipeline is the HS/Bosco/Mystery Bike if GP can convince himself anyone will buy it. The Rivendell Road Bike has been covered numerous times since 1994; I don't see it being updated again anytime soon. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Thursday, December

[RBW] Re: Flat pedal revolution manifesto

2012-12-13 Thread bwphoto
Zappos also has them on sale but not as good of a discount. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:21:05 PM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: This is an impressive document about platform pedals. It echoes much of what GP has said about this subject for years.

Re: [RBW] WTB silver shifter

2012-12-13 Thread james
I like the suggestion for a twin legger, but I doubt it will help - I use a trailer I rigged up to collect compost in 5 gallon buckets. sometimes I have like 8 full buckets back there and it gets heavy and pulls the bike down when i turn my back. I thought grant called it beausage... i call

[RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

2012-12-13 Thread Jeremy Till
I think the re-jiggering of road models over the last 10 years or so has a lot to do with component (esp. brake) availability as a whole. In the dark ages of 94-2000 or so, there were simply no long-reach brakes available for road bikes, so Grant had to integrate his ideas into the Road which

Re: [RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-13 Thread Matthew J
Do you think for a moment _casual_ cyclists have any idea about high end road pedals of any kind? I'll bet most _casual_ cyclists don't give any thought to their pedals at all, whatever came with the bike is fine, etc. Used casual cyclists as reducio ad absurdam. Most who question my

[RBW] Re: Flat pedal revolution manifesto

2012-12-13 Thread Mike Schiller
My younger brother and his friends , who are all downhill oriented mountain bikers swear by their 5-10's.The bottom has a sticky rubber developed for climbing shoes that works really well jumping off cliffs and such. They look pretty klunky but work well if you don't like clipless pedals. I

[RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

2012-12-13 Thread Matthew J
I would like batches of Rivs built to accommodate Paul Racer braze ons but guess that is too small a market to ever be feasible. A Hilsen with canti-posts would take the new Paul Mini Vs though. That would be swell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] WTB silver shifter

2012-12-13 Thread Peter Morgano
Gotta love kind list members. I know a lot of cargo bikes use the kickstand attached to the rear stay as much as the are known to be ugly I guess they do work. On Dec 13, 2012 12:11 PM, james meine...@gmail.com wrote: I like the suggestion for a twin legger, but I doubt it will help - I use a

[RBW] Re: Homemade Accessories for Bikes

2012-12-13 Thread rperks
Aside from the bags and other things I make here in the workshop, I tend to use wooden dowels to prototype ideas for different light and accessory mounts. You can see a couple of ideas here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157625108813685/ Wood is light, easy to shape with saws and

[RBW] Re: Flat pedal revolution manifesto

2012-12-13 Thread Corwin
Hi Jim - I really liked this paper. Thanks very much for posting it. The only thing I see specifically limited to mountain bikes is the discussion of encountering rocks and other technical challenges on the trail. This seems to have at least some partial application if you are riding a trail

Re: [RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

2012-12-13 Thread Eric Daume
I have absolutely zero inside knowledge of Riv... but this rationale seems spot on. Eric Daume Dublin, OH On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: I think the re-jiggering of road models over the last 10 years or so has a lot to do with component (esp. brake)

Re: [RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-13 Thread Kelly
I went back to platform a couple of years ago. No toe clips just bmx style pedals and I love them. I speak for myself in that. Platforms are better for me and I see no perceptible performance loss. Several people I know just like being attached. It's nice to have quality products on both

Re: [RBW] Re: Flat pedal revolution manifesto

2012-12-13 Thread René Sterental
As someone who learned to ride with clipless pedals from the get go, I always scoffed at flats and drank all the marketing cool-aid on clipless. However, I have a Morton's neuroma on my left foot and wide feet, and always had excrutiating foot pain on long rides or rides with lots of climbing.

Re: [RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-13 Thread IanA
This thread seems to have deviated from the title, but it's interesting anyway. I've ridden clipped in (mountain bike shoes) and found it comfortable. The mountain bike shoes had a stiff sole and the pedals were Shimano m545, which have a cage that offers great foot support. I did over

Re: [RBW] Re: Flat pedal revolution manifesto

2012-12-13 Thread bwphoto
Rene' I suffered with Morton's neuroma, after gritting through a marathon, I gave in and had surgery. The surgery was in the doc's office and I was fully functional in weeks. After living with it for so long, I was really happy to have the pain gone and return actively usung my feet. -- You

[RBW] Time to sell things. Need money for college fund.

2012-12-13 Thread Kevin Pollen
Just to let everyone know. Both the Shimano ultegra and 105 rear derailleur are 10 speed medium cage -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] WTT: Large Nigel Smythe Saddle bag for Berthoud Front Bag

2012-12-13 Thread Sean Cleary
I have a used, in excellent condition, Nigel Smythe large saddle bag that I'll swap for a large, grey (not black) Berthoud Front Bag, or Loyal Bag Design (not black). I'll also entertain offers on this saddle bag to fund such a purchase but no low balls, please. I'm really not certain I want to

[RBW] Re: FS 56cm Homer Hilsen Frame/Fork

2012-12-13 Thread Andrew Noronha
Mike, it is unacceptable that you are selling a 56 Sam Hilborne. I shall withdraw my objection once you make that a 52 cm one. Damn all you people selling framesets too large to fit me!! On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 4:53:08 AM UTC-8, Mike B wrote: I'll be out of the country from the 15th

[RBW] FS: Medium Nitto Back Rack 32R

2012-12-13 Thread Ray Colmenar
Happy Holidays Everyone! I bought a new Nitto Back Rack--but I got the wrong size. I got the medium version--need a large. Here's a pic from ecovelo: http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/12/04/stuff-we-like-rivendellnitto-big-back-rack/ $155 if you're local in the East Bay. I can ship for an extra

[RBW] Re: WTB silver shifter

2012-12-13 Thread franklyn
I have a LH shifter lever, just emailed you. Franklyn On Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:53:55 AM UTC-8, james wrote: Well, I've managed to break another silver shifter. Just the left one this time. My bike falls sometimes, lets just say. I was wondering if anyone out there had similar

[RBW] WTB black Brooks Swift

2012-12-13 Thread Frank Quan
Anybody have one they can spare? Thank you. Frank Quan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

2012-12-13 Thread charlie
Next on the list will be an Atlantis style touring frame made in Taiwan to compete with VO's Campeur and the Surly Trucker. I think this frame will be built with real touring in mind and with more traditional angles like the Atlantis only $1000 less expensive. I'd buy a frame like