[RBW] C17 or C17 Carved?

I'm thinking about giving the cambium Brooks' a try. Has anyone tried both the C17 and C17 carved? Any preferences between the two? Thanks! Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

Will, I had looked at the Shutter Precision dynamo, but hadn't see the stock wheel with it. Thanks. I also looked a the Peter White page Riv links to, which is where I found the SON I mentioned. I wonder if there is much drag difference between them. As for the Tubus Logo Evo, it seems more

Re: [RBW] C17 or C17 Carved?

I have both. I think I prefer the carved, but honestly, I don't think I can tell the difference in feel. I've done long rides 3 - 4 hours on both. Choose the color you prefer and toss a coin for carved or not... :-) René On Friday, May 27, 2016, Eric Karnes wrote: > I'm

Re: [RBW] C17 or C17 Carved?

I have had both the B17 and B17 Imperial and preferred the Imperial. I have a C17 now, but will be getting the C17 Carved for my AHH. My guess is that since I preferred the slot of the Imperial, I will prefer the slot of the Carved also. On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Eric Karnes

[RBW] Long rides on low carb...

Hi all, I've been low carb high fat for about a year now, with some relapses. Lost the 40 lbs between May and October last year, then plateaued, probably went a bit off with and gained 10 lbs after the holidays which I've about just lost back again in the last 8 weeks, albeit slowly and with some

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

+1 on the SON hubs. All my bikes have them, except for the Homer at this time. The R14 is great if you're just going to use a Medium/Large Saddlesack. For panniers, even small ones it won't work. I have one but not mounted now. I just ride my Homer with a small Trunksack in the front on the

[RBW] Re: Long rides on low carb...

Hi, René, The Lake Tahoe ride sounds like lots of fun. Can't make it next Sunday, but maybe the next time it's done - I might even be almost in shape by then! As for high-fat, bike-portable snacks, we have enjoyed nut balls made from macadamia nuts, coconut oil and coconut butter, cacao nibs,

Re: [RBW] Long rides on low carb...

René , I recently started on LCHF also. It seems you may be exercising during an intermittent fast. That's a great way to increase adaptation, but with some possible side effects also as you're experiencing. Even though you are primarily burning fat, I doubt it is 100% fat. It may be that you

Re: [RBW] Spring in CA

Lovely! On Thursday, May 26, 2016, Surlyprof wrote: > Stunning photos! Thanks. > > On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 7:07:17 PM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote: >> >> Howdy folks, >> >> Here are photos of a >> trip this past Spring

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

René , Thanks for the info. I don't think I want panniers. They seem too tour-y to me and I don't know I would ever have the need to carry that much. I would prefer to strap on a single bag in the rear or even a basket if needed. As for a front, I'm not really set on a front rack. I have an

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

Go here for SP wheelset: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/w6503236135dyno.htm We have 4 bikes with Logo Evo's. None are used for tourning (though they could be). All are used with Ortlieb rear roll tops for toting stuff. They replaced folding Wald baskets. Here's the thing... they

Re: [RBW] Long rides on low carb...

good job Rene. I guess I don't think about it so much, and I think I ride a bit faster - in fact, I think I use the bike riding so I don't have to think about it. But again, good job - push those miles out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Chainrings...when to replace?

I have over 4000 mi on my XD, compact double, 99+% of those mi on the single 42T ring, and it runs great. I bought the bare arms, the 42T from Riv, and the 25T granny is a Willow.. On other bikes, my experience with TA rings has been great, and will replace this with TA when it's time, but

[RBW] Re: Ride Report Gap-C & O Towpath

Looks like a blast, Howard! Congrats on all those firsts! May there soon be seconds. Grin. Cool/cold and wet is the most challenging "normal" weather (arctic cold, extreme heat being abnormal most areas) -- so you've got that down! There is something about bikepacking that brings out the "even

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

Trenker, could you please apply your thinking to yourself and get back with us? Read your second sentence aloud. Then read your last two paragraphs aloud. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:36:55 PM UTC-6, Trenker wrote: > > > I think that Skenry makes some valid points. If

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

On 05/28/2016 06:36 PM, Trenker wrote: I think that Skenry makes some valid points. If the idea is to “just ride,” then who cares what kind of bike someone else chooses? Rivendells are really nice bikes. They are sturdy and good-looking and made to last. They are also expensive. I think

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

I like Noodles - like the curve back - fits my hands great. I've tried 46, 42, and 44cm sizes, and like the 42s best (5'11" 87.5cm PBH), but that is a hugely personal preference and likely based on your body dimensions and how you ride. Like René, I like the Honjos or any aluminum fenders

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

Scott - please don't lump a whole list of us into those you don't agree with on one thread. Of the bicycle groups I've been observing, this is one of the most open minded and educated. :) And thanks for pointing out there are good things to be found in other bikes, too. Brian Hanson

[RBW] Re: Long rides on low carb...

Hi René! Congrats on sticking to the low carb stuff - I've been off and on for a while - like most diets, I find it hard to "stay different" from what others are eating around me. Need to find the zen chi and become myself... As far as what to eat on longer rides, here's my take. I did

[RBW] Re: Squeaky bb needs to change?

Update: Its not the bb. Its the freehub body squeaks as it rotates against the hub where they contact each other on the outside when i walk the bike backwards slowly or turn the cranks backwards by hand slowly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Long rides on low carb...

Hi Rene- I went low carb / high fat this winter. And with the school year not quite over, I have yet to do any really long rides yet this season. But...in one of the Gary Taubes talks on YouTube (I forget which one), he mentions that he often brings a water bottle full of chicken broth (in

Re: [RBW] Re: Massively upgraded Appaloosa

I have a Cross Check built up with that entire gray XTR group. It's lightweight and nicely understated. But most importantly, it's probably the best functioning and most dependable set of components I've ever used. I previously had it on an old Stumpjumper and I never once had to adjust a

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

I think that Skenry makes some valid points. If the idea is to “just ride,” then who cares what kind of bike someone else chooses? Rivendells are really nice bikes. They are sturdy and good-looking and made to last. They are also expensive. I think when you buy something expensive there is

[RBW] Re: Long rides on low carb...

I didn't find brevets and low carb eating to be compatible. I was rigorously on the Eat Bacon Don't Jog way of eating. I lost weight and found it, at the time, easy to do and satisfying. I seemed to have reached nutritional ketosis and to have adapted to burning fat for energy. I could easily

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

You know honestly I am just as dumbfounded as Skenry! I think the original feelings expressed were ones of betrayal; they bought a bike that suited their needs, but the company introduces a bike that suits the needs of someone else, a bike that they take some objection too because of what it's

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

Stop being ridiculous, Skenry. Nothing in this thread except your use of the words is intolerant or single-minded. In deciding between Cleary and Islabike I called and talked with both companies. Islabike was very "business and component" focused, Cleary was very "parent and kid experience

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

I have the 44 on my Homer and it feels very nice. In theory, the narrower handlebars ar better for low trail bikes and the wider are better for higher trail bikes for handling. Of course, I still think it's quite personal. René On Saturday, May 28, 2016, John Hawrylak

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

I'd suggest going with cheep cotton tape, no shellac, in the "bar discernment" stage (for me it was a couple of years before I found bar heaven, but I'm a slow learner and tried every variation of adjustment with each bar to be sure I wasn't just a tweak away). It's inexpensive, so I didn't

[RBW] ACW store just got a big revamp and restock for all you Associated coffeeoutside types.

Looks great! I just ordered a cap to go with my enamel mug! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

Doing a quick compare of the offerings of the two companies - Pro series aside, Islabike has provision to add fenders and racks, as well as water bottle cages. Cleary appears to have none of that. (two grandsons getting bigger; I look into these things as well) On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at

Re: [RBW] Chainrings...when to replace?

Sounds good! Do they rust? Are they alot heavier than alu rings? They even say that when they wear out you can flip them and keep riding for another lifespan? I am surprised Rivendell doesnt sell steel chainrings. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

Skenry, personal choice and discernment about a product or company doesn't even enter the realm of requiring tolerance and actually rightly exercises intolerance all the time. Though I suspect we have differing definitions. For reference my understanding of tolerance/intolerance is beautifully

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

So, my initial response to your use of the word "intolerant," Scott, should have been: Yes. People are expressing an intolerance in this thread. That is a good thing. I am intolerant of mass produced beer, whisky from anywhere but Islay, bikes made of materials that fail without warning,

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

Let us all just try to be a little more open minded. There is a huge difference in saying I don't like a certain bicycle company because... and saying I like all bicycles because... Try to be positive cyclists and embrace the activity in its entirety. I guess I thought that you all being

Re: [RBW] Chainrings...when to replace?

I have been using a Surly stainless middle ring on my touring bike. On a new chain they will sometime exhibit chain suck for a hundred or so miles. Still worth it in my opinion. Steve On Saturday, May 28, 2016, Lungimsam wrote: > Sounds good! > > Do they rust? > Are they

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

A black Clementine may be just the ticket, Leah. Our two eldest are growing wonderfully into their mediums (we're hoping that size will fit them as their "forever" bike), but a small clementine in black or orange. I'll be doing a Continental Divide criss-cross bikepacking trip with my two

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

The dictionary say intolerance is unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own. Yep. On May 28, 2016 2:27 PM, "Deacon Patrick" wrote: > So, my initial response to your use of the word "intolerant," Scott, > should have been: > > Yes. People

[RBW] Now (nearly) fully stocked

Sheila and I want to visit from Fort Wayne to ride the Monon trail from Carmel into town. When we do we'll also come to see your shop, looks neat. Ben -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Ride Report Gap-C & O Towpath

Finished my ride last Saturday. Left Pittsburgh @ 5 AM, 33 degrees on Monday morning. Explored the downtown for an hour or two then headed out. Sky was sunny but cool. The next day brought cool rain and hazy conditions. The rain stuck around most of the week making the C & O very muddy. The

[RBW] ACW store just got a big revamp and restock for all you Associated coffeeoutside types.

Over the last couple years I've had multiple requests for both tees and ceramic at home mugs. Apologies for taking so long, but I have finally dipped my toe in those waters. Decided to try out a small order of custom cycling caps made in TX by Ellum Bag Works. Plus new enamel mugs and patches.

Re: [RBW] ACW store just got a big revamp and restock for all you Associated coffeeoutside types.

Nice! Just ordered a cap and a t-shirt. On Saturday, May 28, 2016, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Over the last couple years I've had multiple requests for both tees and > ceramic at home mugs. Apologies for taking so long, but I have finally > dipped

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

Wow, Brian, that is a beautiful bike. I am used to seeing lovely bikes here, but yours is really eye catching-the color, bar tape, etc. Nice work. Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

Deacon, You might want to read some of and others posts. It has been specifically stated that people liked the company before, and no longer do and they could not recommend them anymore after they EXPANDED their offerings. How tolerant is that? The "my way out the highway" approach

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

As a side note, maybe Grant is listening and will have mercy on those of us looking for Riv-esque bikes for our kids. He's been extending his offerings with his Clem and his Rosco and his Hubbah Hubbah. Why not a bike for bigger kids? Is it feasible to make a 24 and 26 inch bike with one of the

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

Thanks! On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 3:21:37 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote: > > Wow, Brian, that is a beautiful bike. I am used to seeing lovely bikes > here, but yours is really eye catching-the color, bar tape, etc. > Nice work. > Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: FS: Ibex and Wooly Warm, New and used (lightly)

5 shirts are gone, I have updated the links On Thursday, May 26, 2016 at 7:06:17 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote: > > I just got done cleaning out my cedar chest, when I was working I bought a > lot of ibex and wooly warm that I liked. Since I have not been cycling > these things are not really

[RBW] Re: Long rides on low carb...

Excellent job! Way to go! Remember one of the "principles" of Maffetone (one I wasn't very good at adhering to while building up my base -- now it just happens naturally) is to return home feeling like you could do it all again (but not). Look into resistant starch (think uber green banana).

[RBW] Re: Secondary Levers and V-Brakes

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Re: [RBW] Chainrings...when to replace?

Excellent point, Scott! Surly chainrings are on my list to try when it's time to replace my middle (which I ride 95% of the time). With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 6:48:46 AM UTC-6, Skenry wrote: > > I'll just toss out Surly rings.They are really cheap and amazingly >

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

Tim, Here are some pis for comparison. My AHH as currently configured: I have used 46cm Noodle bars for the last 6 years. I recently switched to a set of Compass Rando bars 42cm and the bar shapes are

[RBW] Re: Secondary Levers and V-Brakes

First and foremost, many thanks to all those who replied. Just as I knew the Rivendell bikes would be great, this list has been also. I recently learned of the Travel Agent, but consider it a last resort because it seems to be forcing things that do not work together to work together. I

[RBW] Re: Large Grabsack width and height?

I don't use a laptop, but I grabbed

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

Excellent point, Lynne. For us, longer rides needing water, racks, etc, are done via the cargo bike until they are big enough for the Meerkat. At that point, we'll have to use a clamp on rack system and water bottle. But on the smaller bikes, we decided the room, weight, and need just weren't

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

Brian, Thanks for the info and pictures of your bike. I'm 5'10". I have been reading through bar possibilities here, lots of options to be sure: http://ruedatropical.com/2009/03/road-drop-bar-geometry/ Tim On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 5:04 PM, stonehog wrote: > I like Noodles

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

DP, one persons perspective here is as valuable as another, regardless . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

Will, Thanks for the link. I think I would need this one for 700c instead of 650b. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/w70036135dyno.htm The attach/detach time for the Ortlieb sounds great. Are you referring to the Bike Basket model or a different model? As for the Abus, that anchor would not

Re: [RBW] C17 or C17 Carved?

I have the C-17 carved on my Rawland and I have been happy with it so far. I don't have the regular to compare to, but I have half a dozen bikes with B-17 & I think I prefer having the cut out to not having it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

Brian, Beautiful bike. Thanks for the front look at the bars. Now that I see the angle, I'm not sure I would want the inward tilt on the tops. I may prefer flat tops also. Is there a different bar with flat tops that still has a flare out at the drops? Thanks. Tim On Sat, May 28, 2016 at

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Tim Butterfield wrote: > Is there a different bar with flat tops that still has a flare out at the > drops? > I found this one. It might be an option. It seems to have a bit of flare, but still has a flat top.

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of a Riv

John, Thanks for the width comment. I'll check with them on width if I go for the Compass. Tim On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 6:00 AM, John Hawrylak wrote: > Tim > > Just 1 comment on the handlebar WIDTH. You chosen 44cm. I went from a > 42cm rando type bar (38cm at the

Re: [RBW] Re: Massively upgraded Appaloosa

I had that group on a Bstone MB-1, which I REALLY wish I hadn't sold. It shifted and stopped like buttah. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of a Riv

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Surlyprof wrote: > You'll never regret a Mark's rack. So handy. I would second the > suggestions of the Tubus Evo and panniers. I have a Cosmo that I've moved > across three different bikes. It may be heavier duty than you want but it >

Re: [RBW] C17 or C17 Carved?

thanks guys! coin flipped...think i'll give the carved a try. eric On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 2:19:43 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote: > > I have had both the B17 and B17 Imperial and preferred the Imperial. I > have a C17 now, but will be getting the C17 Carved for my AHH. My guess is >

Re: [RBW] Chainrings...when to replace?

I'll just toss out Surly rings.They are really cheap and amazingly durable. You can get just about any size you like, in popular bolt patterns, the one issue for some of you may be the full tooth profile. No shifting help at all.But did I mention that they are durable? The only

[RBW] Large Grabsack width and height?

Can someone give me the main pocket interior maximum width -- ie, stretching it -- as well as the height of this bag? Riv gives the dimensions for the smaller size, but not for the larger. Thanks. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of a Riv

Tim Just 1 comment on the handlebar WIDTH. You chosen 44cm. I went from a 42cm rando type bar (38cm at the hoofs) to a 44cm Noodle (actually wider then 44) and did not like it as much. I felt too open regardless of hand position. Suggest considering or talking to Compass on width,

Re: [RBW] Tire wear question. When to replace?

my normal mode is replace rears as needed, and on one bike I get triple+ miles from the front. The one time I have "rotated" the tire was when I had a front cut, ended up moving the rear tire forward (still rolling on that one) and put the new tire in the rear. But I'm a 3-tire kinda guy.