Hi Everyone,
We had a fun meeting yesterday with our local Riv riders and sketched out a
few more details about the upcoming Rivendell (unofficial) Meet up this
July. Here's what we've got so far:
*Schedule for July 7-9:*
*July 7* - Afternoon ride on Greenway followed by dinner/beer at one of
Oh, the print from the blog post about the upcoming crank, it comes with
"conditions" ? It appears like the underestimating of the Susie. It's not
like once the crank is sold they have any say in how it's used. For sure
there's lots people who want the crank for their bikes that include off
John,
would you mind measuring the height of your FW30 from the minimum insertion
mark to the midpoint of the intersection between the stem shaft and the
stem extension?
Many thanks.
On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 10:38:11 PM UTC+2 Johnny Alien wrote:
> I recently bought one of these and just
That Crumbworks Chonk looks amazing! I’ve been thinking about it ever since first seeing the photos. It’s like a mix between a Gus, a Platy, and a Jones Spaceframe. So cool and lovely curves!On May 17, 2023, at 1:49 PM, Jason Fuller wrote:(and yes, I picture the Crumbworks Chonk as I describe
Patrick - as far as I know, "honking" may have been used for either seated
or standing positions, but the way I recall Sloane describing it, it
consisted of placing one's hands on the flat bar tops. It's difficult to
imagine hands in that position when standing on the pedals.
Also, in
My comical "getting in over my head" story is not a cycling story, but I
think it still has familiar emotions
My wife is an avid flamenco afficionado. She takes classes multiple times
per week, attends shows almost every weekend, and savors the Spanish, Gypsy
and North African cultural
The geometry diagram for the 47
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/ROADINI-470-Geo.jpg?7649874663519573416x)
shows a 38mm tire, with 55mm between the chainstays. It probably will take
42mm tires but not more. You can count on 38mm at the very least. With
caliper brakes I
Bump
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-7 Chris Copeland wrote:
> Hi all, I've got a Nitto R10 bag support that has some signs of use.
> Really enjoyed using this as a large saddle bag support/rest. However, I
> want to be able to run a pannier on the Bassi Hog's Back this is mounted
Can anyone tell me what years the Betty Foy was produced? I think 2009 was
the first year?
Also, were they all made in Taiwan?
Thanks! Ann
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Very common issue in the world of aging business owners where the next
generation has moved on from the family business and there's no external
interest in taking it on. Happens a lot in the world of tradesman
(plumbing, HVAC, builders, etc). The company was a good way to support your
life and
Hello, all!
I'm getting ready to receive my new Clem from the bike mechanic and trying
to think through storage solutions in the garage. I searched the group and
found this thread which has shown me something that I didn't know was
possible but looks like the perfect solution for me so I wanted
There was also a Custom at Weigle's, but I didn't see who was riding it
(nor did I take a photo). Nice to meet you all out there!!
Adam
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Doug - There's more info, including a schematic, in the 8/25/22 "Blahg."
It's near the end.
https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/done-done-wrong-proably-still-doing-wrong
On Sunday, May 7, 2023 at 8:46:52 PM UTC-5 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
> Howdy folks.
>
> Have there been any pics
Hi Carla - is that a banana sack? Thanks sd
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:03:13 AM UTC-7 Carla Waugh wrote:
> Good shape 60 plus shipping
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Late to the conversation - great story-telling as always, and highly
relatable Leah! I have certainly been there, although maybe not entirely
by surprise in my case. I ride with friends who have very fast, lightweight
bikes and I'm never totally sure how much to blame my bike vs. my legs, but
I really, really want it to be a mountain mixte. That would give it the
torsional stiffness that IMO a hillibike needs while still keeping vertical
compliance, and the low standover Grant (and others!) prefer for an
off-roader. A mixte frame with 2.6" knobby tires and a nicely slacked out
(and yes, I picture the Crumbworks Chonk as I describe it!)
On Wednesday, 17 May 2023 at 10:48:23 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
> I really, really want it to be a mountain mixte. That would give it the
> torsional stiffness that IMO a hillibike needs while still keeping vertical
> compliance,
I'm old, old, and old enough to have used Eugene Sloane's "Complete Book of
Bicycling" as my guide into serious cycling back in the early '70's. In
his book he goes through great pains, including photos, to explain the five
or so hand positions available to a cyclist riding with standard drop
I agree that it looks really nice. I'd upgrade my Quickbeam from a Silver
1 to a Silver 2, since my Quickbeam never gets an abusive off-road
beating.
BL in EC
On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 11:34:00 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
> I had missed that. The drawing looks really nice!
>
> On
Bike is sold and on its way to its new owner.
On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:04:08 PM UTC-7 Ed Carolipio wrote:
> Sale on hold pending discussions.
>
> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 1:00:19 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I love everything about this bike. The crankset is beautiful. And such a
>>
I had missed that. The drawing looks really nice!
On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 1:24:12 PM UTC-4 John S wrote:
> Doug - There's more info, including a schematic, in the 8/25/22 "Blahg."
> It's near the end.
>
>
>
I've now ridden my Roadini for 1000 miles, and I wrote my
review: https://blog.piaw.net/2023/05/rivendell-roadini-1000-mile-review.html
I think I'm agreeing with the folks who say that gravel bikes are simply
1990s style mountain bikes with 700c wheels and 1x drivetrains.
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Perhaps American usage is different. In any event, it's of little
importance since the important thing is the way of pedaling. And you may be
right about riding the hooks in pacelines.
http://www.perfectcondition.ltd.uk/Articles/honking/Honking.htm
https://www.sportsdefinitions.com/cycling/honk/
Ok, George, very good, but the question remains: Have you ever gotten in over your head? Or did you read all the books…LeahSent from my iPhoneOn May 17, 2023, at 3:25 PM, George Schick wrote:I'm old, old, and old enough to have used Eugene Sloane's "Complete Book of Bicycling" as my guide into
That's a funny story. Long ago my then-wife/now ex-wife decided to try out
the Spinning (tm) class at the nearby gym. Her only cycling experience was
about 25 miles total on our 2 tandems (on the first of which -- wholly
inappropriate lightweight 531C Orbit racing tandem that wagged like a dog
Right you are, Bill - I knew I was taking a guess as I couldn't recall
which it was. But figured folks would know what I meant :) The only
thing I don't like about it is the bottle bosses on the curved top tube -
just doesn't jive with the otherwise highly elegant appearance - two on the
Hi Laing,
Bent Creek fire roads are gravel, but not too rough. Greenway is almost all
paved except for a short gravel portion that we may or may not do.
Neighborhood ride is all paved. Your custom with 650b x 48 would be perfect
(and I'd like to see it!).
gary
On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at
Doing a search on this site shows the first threads on the Betty Foy at the
end of 2008 with pictures on the Riv website mentioned in Dec 2008 along
with mentions of test rides. Yes, all Taiwan made. Timing looks to be
same as the Sam Hillborne.
You look fantastic, Jock. Just plain *fit. * Kudos and bravo and all that
stuff. I love your description of happy country rides, lost in your
thoughts. I am going to try to squeeze one of those in tomorrow. But guess
what I’m doing after that? I got talked into brining my Platypus to an
intro
I am bookmarking this and will totally do this asap. I currently have covid
and haven't been very successful in doing anything but sleeping.
On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 1:20:47 PM UTC-4 Ben Stuart wrote:
> John,
>
> would you mind measuring the height of your FW30 from the minimum
>
Hostel booked. Need to decide on which Riv (or Rivs). Is it all paved
and/or gravel? If so, I am thinking the Riv Custom with 650Bx48 Switchback
Hills would be the choice, so I need to quit dithering on the 90 vs. 100
stem and finally tape the handlebars.
Laing
On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at
Rich, ha! This pretty much sums it up, doesn’t it?! Thanks for finding this.
L
On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 12:11:37 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
> Dear Leah,
>
> Kudos to you for participating and then hanging with a group of gofasters;
> something I don't have a desire to do. I have begun taking
Ted, You’re lucky to have found a riding partner that matches your rhythm.
Hang on to that friendship!
Our club is pretty strict about obeying traffic rules and being polite. We
had one guy complain about a group of us on a ride saying that the group
was 3 wide. It went right to the club
Do your ride - your own way - on your bike. You know I only ride my
Betty. I ride w/plenty of carbon fiber, Ti bikes. I don't like to go that
fast so I usually don't do group road rides. I don't want to be going fast
w/people who I'm not familiar with or a route I'm not familiar with.
I can look at the route and make one on Ride W/Gps if you want. Then you
could join our CLub acct and you could use voice navigation. Let me know
if I can help.
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 12:20:40 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
> I should add, lest anyone get an inflated idea of my cycling
Worthy question, but it all depends upon what one means by "getting in over
your head." My honest answer to that would be "yes" during the mid-70's
when I attempted to compete in what was then known back then as "Cat. 4"
amateur racing. This was when I was in my mid-20's and I attempted to
What's the context?
A. Are you considering buying one? Can you share the link to a listing?
B. Or do you have one and need to sell it? Can you share a picture or size
info so we can help you date it?
C. Or do you have one and want to gather info about it? Share a picture
and/or size info
Toshi, I so agree! I like to ride tough rides to challenge myself and
increase fitness. I don’t have to win; I just want to be stronger than I
was….well, and not to slow the group down. I double agree with you that I
will finish a hard ride and vow never to do it again and then do it again.
Betty's were made in different sizes in different years. And in the later
years some were Yves Gomez and some were Cheviot. What other questions do
you have?
On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 1:23:41 PM UTC-4 womba...@gmail.com wrote:
> Can anyone tell me what years the Betty Foy was produced?
I had been comparing bars on whatbars.com, and stem length on the stem
comparison tool, http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php. I just thought
some feedback from Rivendell riders would be a good idea, given that
Rivendell geometries and Rivendell riders are different and kinda unique.
Are you and Jason both misspelling it "CHONK" ? I've read about the
CHUNK? Or is there another model actually called the CHONK?
Assuming it's the CHUNK, I agree it's a cool looking bike. It's like a
step through, upright bars, version of Patrick Moore's "RBFD" (Road Bike
For Dirt). It's
Aw, thanks, Jason!
Everything you say is true about the challenges of riding an upright bike.
I have thought about drop bars but I’ve never used them and I don’t think I
want to, even if they help. I see the other riders shaking the numbness out
of their hands and I just don’t think I could
Piaw,
Thank you for your review. You mention fitting nominally 40mm wide tires
and I would be curious to know what the maximum tire widths with and
without fenders are?
Your review in the final paragraph draws reference to toe-clip overlap
(TCO) and I was wondering if you could expand on
Max tire width according to Rivendell is 42mm. I don't like to push it that
close, so I think in practice I won't run anything more than 38mm actual
width. I have no TCO on the Roadini. The TCO exists on my custom touring
bike, which has a geometry copied from the 1993 Bridgestone RB-1 with a
I generally agree with George's information, only "honking" means standing
and pushing hard on the pedals, usually uphill. I think it's an old British
term. Also, I don't think that you use the hooks for drafting, tho' I
confess that my knowledge here is gained from reading, since I have never
confirmed with Will that the 47 would take a true 45 fenderless, so that's
pretty good! Nice to have another option to keep my eyes out for.
On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 12:17:21 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
> The geometry diagram for the 47 (
>
Hi, Stephanie.
I have both and love both, set up similarly, but like the Homer ride a bit
more. 2019 Homer (last gen, 54.5cm) and 2021 Platy (first gen, 55cm).
Wheelbase is 43” for Homer and 47” for Platy, which is too long for city
bus bike rack (I’ll post pics later) and Amtrak roll on
Hi Sean,
While it's not as lugged-out as the older frames, we noticed a bit back
that the new/current Roadini 47cm frame has the exact same geometry as the
original 47cm Saluki. That may be your best bet!
Liz S.
Washington, DC
On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 9:09:29 PM UTC-4 Sean Steinle wrote:
Wow I didn't even think to look at the modern Roadini, thanks for the heads
up! I'm going to reach out for max tire size as it's not listed for the 47.
On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 6:58:06 AM UTC-5 Elisabeth Sherwood wrote:
> Hi Sean,
>
> While it's not as lugged-out as the older frames, we
I use a Analog Fingerling stem for the ersuader bars on my Hunqapillar.
On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 10:51:21 PM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:
> +1 on whatbars.com. Great site to compare bars. I use a 90 mm stem with
> Persuader bars on my Prospector.
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from
On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 5:36:22 AM UTC-5 Jay LePree wrote:
I think this is exacerbated by the growth of Swift, etc. Riders have
increasingly big engines, but not the riding skills to harness them safely
in a group ride.
That's been a subject of conversation at the pro level, where
In addition to all that has been said, I find gearing can make a huge
difference. I've geared each of my bikes for a different style of riding.
My Atlantis is geared for loaded touring and currently has 50mm tires for
off pavement capability. It has lower gears and bigger steps between gears
Leah - It is Jersey Jay. Platypus owner via Analogue. It seems that while
the ride was unpleasant, you did keep up, which is quite impressive. I am
approach my 56th trip around the sun in Dec, and about 15 years ago, much
attibutable to what you experienced, I stopped my group rides. It is
Leah's true sufferfest may have been reduced tolerance to the over
necessity of all the "go-fast" gear, the seeming standard issue of the
average bicyclist, while under the duress of her 10/10ths performance. The
interesting part is that she did more on that ride than the rest. All their
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