[RBW] ISO Stephen who wanted Riv Logos
Sorry to use the list for this, but I¹d like to hear from Stephen who asked for Rivendell logo files last week. I¹ve emailed him directly a couple of times with no response. -- Jon ³Papa² Grant Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 Drawings ‹ all sorts -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Waxing Well
Filson makes a paste wax for re-proofing their waxed cotton garments. I've used it on a Baggins with positive results. Hot weather, a heat gun or oven helps the wax to flow into the fabric. I second the vote for the Filson wax (www.filson.com/sm-one-can-of-oil- finish-wax--pi-2092385.html). See application instructions under product details. I know some folks who use a heat gun to apply followed by a cloths dryer just long enough for the wax to flow into the fabric. Gives a beautiful finish. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing Well
I hope the Filsen Paste Wax finish is made from something different than the Filson Boot Oil which goes on easy and looks great, but has a tendency to cause mold in humid weather when used on leather. I've had this happen a number of times and have switched to Obenauf's because of this. --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Will wpm...@gmail.com wrote: From: Will wpm...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Waxing Well To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 8:01 AM Filson makes a paste wax for re-proofing their waxed cotton garments. I've used it on a Baggins with positive results. Hot weather, a heat gun or oven helps the wax to flow into the fabric. I second the vote for the Filson wax (www.filson.com/sm-one-can-of-oil- finish-wax--pi-2092385.html). See application instructions under product details. I know some folks who use a heat gun to apply followed by a cloths dryer just long enough for the wax to flow into the fabric. Gives a beautiful finish. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tracking Number!!!
Without a doubt the best packing I have seen for any bike ever. In my few years of bike shop employment I probably packed 50 bikes or so for shipping. I did not have the skill, patience, or materials to come anywhere close to Riv's standards. Rivendell clearly takes pride in this part of the sale. They should teach a class! On Dec 4, 1:15 am, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote: BTW - You're going to love seeing how well they pack those things. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
I can't see how anyone here would find this to be heresy. I think we all accept racers need a light nimble bike, but object to the marketing of these bikes to the 52 yr old casual rider who can never get comfortable. This is easily the #1 misconception about Rivendell Grant - Grant hates racing bikes and racers! On Dec 3, 8:43 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: It may be heresy around here, but racers ride racing bikes for a reason. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
marketing of these bikes to the 52 yr old casual rider who can never get comfortable. Agree except for the assumption that people who do not race are somehow 'casual riders.' In fact, I find more the opposite to be true. Someone who uses their bike to ride to work, shop, access cultural and entertainment outlets, visit friends and relatives, and take vacations is far more serious in my eyes than someone using a bike for the sole purpose of riding faster than someone else. On Dec 4, 8:22 am, Kris kkjellqu...@gmail.com wrote: I can't see how anyone here would find this to be heresy. I think we all accept racers need a light nimble bike, but object to the marketing of these bikes to the 52 yr old casual rider who can never get comfortable. This is easily the #1 misconception about Rivendell Grant - Grant hates racing bikes and racers! On Dec 3, 8:43 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: It may be heresy around here, but racers ride racing bikes for a reason. - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
I second the motion. Most serious riders (racers) that I encounter have a sole focus. They know nothing about their bike, they don't use it for anything other than sporting equipment. The bike doesn't fit right, is ill-maintained, etc. but the rider has on the cutting edge kit. Looks the part, but couldn't tell you about one component on the bike. Why is that more serious than what I do? - Original Message - From: JoelMatthews To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:06 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike marketing of these bikes to the 52 yr old casual rider who can never get comfortable. Agree except for the assumption that people who do not race are somehow 'casual riders.' In fact, I find more the opposite to be true. Someone who uses their bike to ride to work, shop, access cultural and entertainment outlets, visit friends and relatives, and take vacations is far more serious in my eyes than someone using a bike for the sole purpose of riding faster than someone else. On Dec 4, 8:22 am, Kris kkjellqu...@gmail.com wrote: I can't see how anyone here would find this to be heresy. I think we all accept racers need a light nimble bike, but object to the marketing of these bikes to the 52 yr old casual rider who can never get comfortable. This is easily the #1 misconception about Rivendell Grant - Grant hates racing bikes and racers! On Dec 3, 8:43 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: It may be heresy around here, but racers ride racing bikes for a reason. - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
Keven (of RBW) races CX iirc, on a Legolas. Another rider in recent memory captured a national age group title on a Legolas as well, I remember reading. I can get my Ram down to 20 lbs and race it (and it out handles many more carboneseque racers), although the problem with that is my legs don't have what it takes to succeed. And of course, the Roadeo is aimed at a go-faster crowd than the typical Hilsen rider. From: Kris kkjellqu...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, December 4, 2009 8:22:55 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike This is easily the #1 misconception about Rivendell Grant - Grant hates racing bikes and racers! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
Well, I'm mostly an interested reader of the posts here, rather than an active poster/participant in the discussions. And I'm about as far from a racer as one can get -- a 56 year old guy with a recently resurrected interest in bikes and riding, prompted in equal measures by the need for better fitness and having stumbled on the fascinating iconoclastic ideas on the Riv site. But the tone of disdain for racers who aren't as interested as we are in the fine points of the bike as a beautiful machine, but simply see it as a tool for their particular kind of exercise, seems misguided to me. Any bike that's on the road -- with the possible exception of those under militantly rude riders, and I don't see racers as mostly being in that category -- ought to be seen as a plus. Critical mass is our friend, I guess is what I'm saying. Plenty of room for all types of riders, and no real utility in characterizing one type as more serious than another. -Original Message- From: JoelMatthews [mailto:joelmatth...@mac.com] Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:07 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike marketing of these bikes to the 52 yr old casual rider who can never get comfortable. Agree except for the assumption that people who do not race are somehow 'casual riders.' In fact, I find more the opposite to be true. Someone who uses their bike to ride to work, shop, access cultural and entertainment outlets, visit friends and relatives, and take vacations is far more serious in my eyes than someone using a bike for the sole purpose of riding faster than someone else. On Dec 4, 8:22 am, Kris kkjellqu...@gmail.com wrote: I can't see how anyone here would find this to be heresy. I think we all accept racers need a light nimble bike, but object to the marketing of these bikes to the 52 yr old casual rider who can never get comfortable. This is easily the #1 misconception about Rivendell Grant - Grant hates racing bikes and racers! On Dec 3, 8:43 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: It may be heresy around here, but racers ride racing bikes for a reason. - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
How do you get your Ram down to 20 lbs? Do you find a few pounds difference on the bike make a noticeable difference in the ride? Thanks, Tim On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Keven (of RBW) races CX iirc, on a Legolas. Another rider in recent memory captured a national age group title on a Legolas as well, I remember reading. I can get my Ram down to 20 lbs and race it (and it out handles many more carboneseque racers), although the problem with that is my legs don't have what it takes to succeed. And of course, the Roadeo is aimed at a go-faster crowd than the typical Hilsen rider. -- *From:* Kris kkjellqu...@gmail.com *To:* RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Fri, December 4, 2009 8:22:55 AM *Subject:* [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike This is easily the #1 misconception about Rivendell Grant - Grant hates racing bikes and racers! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
How about Hilsen as a 650B randonneur: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kaptainamerika/4154581242/in/pool-650b Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Dec 4, 7:49 am, Timothy Whalen whalen...@gmail.com wrote: How do you get your Ram down to 20 lbs? Do you find a few pounds difference on the bike make a noticeable difference in the ride? Thanks, Tim On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Keven (of RBW) races CX iirc, on a Legolas. Another rider in recent memory captured a national age group title on a Legolas as well, I remember reading. I can get my Ram down to 20 lbs and race it (and it out handles many more carboneseque racers), although the problem with that is my legs don't have what it takes to succeed. And of course, the Roadeo is aimed at a go-faster crowd than the typical Hilsen rider. -- *From:* Kris kkjellqu...@gmail.com *To:* RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Fri, December 4, 2009 8:22:55 AM *Subject:* [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike This is easily the #1 misconception about Rivendell Grant - Grant hates racing bikes and racers! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WAS: AHH as a road bike NOW: Judgment
David Faller wrote: I second the motion. Most serious riders (racers) that I encounter have a sole focus. They know nothing about their bike, they don't use it for anything other than sporting equipment. The bike doesn't fit right, is ill-maintained, etc. but the rider has on the cutting edge kit. Looks the part, but couldn't tell you about one component on the bike. Why is that more serious than what I do? --- What does it matter? I¹ve seen skinny kids on bright-colored, narrow-barred fixies; poorly-dressed folks on cheap mountain bikes; commuters on all sorts of bikes; fat, skinny, old, and young folks on bikes that cost thousands more than my Riv custom. Each one is using a bicycle to accomplish his goal; some of those goals are consistent with my own and others are not, but I can presume only that all those riders are serious. As for maintenance, I¹ve heard squeaky chains and rubbing brakes on bikes of every stripe. I don¹t get why this is a worthwhile topic of discussion here. It sounds to me uncomfortably like, ³If only those folks could experience the One True Religion ‹ ours!² -- Jon ³But What Do I Know?² Grant, in just-about-to-snow Austin, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
But the tone of disdain for racers who aren't as interested as we are in the fine points of the bike as a beautiful machine, but simply see it as a tool for their particular kind of exercise, seems misguided to me. Any bike that's on the road -- with the possible exception of those under militantly rude riders, and I don't see racers as mostly being in that category -- ought to be seen as a plus. Critical mass is our friend, I guess is what I'm saying. Plenty of room for all types of riders, and no real utility in characterizing one type as more serious than another. Don't have disdain for racing. It is a particular hobby that does not interest me. It seems a wonderful pass time for many and I would certainly recommend those with an interest to participate. However, if you look around most riding web sites, and engage in conversation with people about bikes on a regular basis, there is a decidedly marked tendency to refer to racers and racing bikes as 'serious' and other uses 'casual.' Certainly no one would say auto racing is a more serious endeavor than those who use an auto to get around. Unless you are one of the very few people who make a sustainable living racing bikes, racing is a fun diversion from your day to day life. Nothing wrong with that. It just is not cyclings highest form. And for the record, I am perfectly fine with someone saying there is no highest form of cycling - just different. On Dec 4, 9:45 am, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Well, I'm mostly an interested reader of the posts here, rather than an active poster/participant in the discussions. And I'm about as far from a racer as one can get -- a 56 year old guy with a recently resurrected interest in bikes and riding, prompted in equal measures by the need for better fitness and having stumbled on the fascinating iconoclastic ideas on the Riv site. But the tone of disdain for racers who aren't as interested as we are in the fine points of the bike as a beautiful machine, but simply see it as a tool for their particular kind of exercise, seems misguided to me. Any bike that's on the road -- with the possible exception of those under militantly rude riders, and I don't see racers as mostly being in that category -- ought to be seen as a plus. Critical mass is our friend, I guess is what I'm saying. Plenty of room for all types of riders, and no real utility in characterizing one type as more serious than another. -Original Message- From: JoelMatthews [mailto:joelmatth...@mac.com] Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:07 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike marketing of these bikes to the 52 yr old casual rider who can never get comfortable. Agree except for the assumption that people who do not race are somehow 'casual riders.' In fact, I find more the opposite to be true. Someone who uses their bike to ride to work, shop, access cultural and entertainment outlets, visit friends and relatives, and take vacations is far more serious in my eyes than someone using a bike for the sole purpose of riding faster than someone else. On Dec 4, 8:22 am, Kris kkjellqu...@gmail.com wrote: I can't see how anyone here would find this to be heresy. I think we all accept racers need a light nimble bike, but object to the marketing of these bikes to the 52 yr old casual rider who can never get comfortable. This is easily the #1 misconception about Rivendell Grant - Grant hates racing bikes and racers! On Dec 3, 8:43 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: It may be heresy around here, but racers ride racing bikes for a reason. - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. ------ To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or
[RBW] Re: WAS: AHH as a road bike NOW: Judgment
On Dec 4, 11:01 am, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: What does it matter? I¹ve seen skinny kids on bright-colored, narrow-barred fixies; poorly-dressed folks on cheap mountain bikes; commuters on all sorts of bikes; fat, skinny, old, and young folks on bikes that cost thousands more than my Riv custom. Each one is using a bicycle to accomplish his goal; some of those goals are consistent with my own and others are not, but I can presume only that all those riders are serious. As for maintenance, I¹ve heard squeaky chains and rubbing brakes on bikes of every stripe. I don¹t get why this is a worthwhile topic of discussion here. It sounds to me uncomfortably like, ³If only those folks could experience the One True Religion spot on. except the snowing in Austin, TX part . ... that's just ridiculous. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
I've found randonneuring to be a happy medium between racing and ... well I don't know what, serious riding? When I first started cycling seriously (ie every single day I had off work for 8 to 9hrs and early in the morning before work and school) I did do some mountain bike races. It was an interesting experience but not one that sucked me in. It just seemed a bit too nerve wracking. For years I rode with a club (I use that term very loosely) where we would head out for fast short rides and all day slogs on mountain and road bikes every weekend. It was a nice group of people who were fun to ride with, some of whom raced. When I moved to Portland 3yrs ago I stumbled upon randonneuring and love it. My first year my main goal was to just have fun and finish the rides. A 200k requires a bit of seriousness even if you're going at a leisurely pace. The second year, this year, I tried to complete my brevets a little faster. I was shooting for R70 times (see http://www.cyclosmontagnards.org/R80Rules.html for details). This did add some pressure but not in the same way racing does. I maintained R70 times for the 200k, 300k and 400k, brevets but the 600k brevet was all about survival (http://randobooks.blogspot.com/ 2009/06/oregon-600km-xtr.html). As for next year, my goals are to complete another super randonneur series and maybe complete a Cyclos Montagnards challenge with my friend Joshua. I probably ride a lot more than serious racers but I would never throw myself in with that lot. I just love cycling. 16+ years of steady cycling and I remain obsessed with getting on my bike and heading out for long adventurous slogs like this one 2 days ago: http://cycles-j-bryant.blogspot.com/2009/12/wilderness-mtn-road.html Crud, I need to get into work. Time to hop on the bike. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam and Carbon Belt Drive
Thanks for those links. I love the belt concept but I was really unimpressed with the part about it popping off the cog unless everything is perfectly aligned. After a couple of painful mashups like Bob describes, how could you ever trust the thing? I don't remember if i've posted these links to this or another group, but St. Paul framebuilder Bob Brown has done a belt drive conversion to one of his own bikes and written about it. He later broke the belt, though Gates said that one was apparently defective and replaced it free. The first link at bottom shows his retrofit, and the second one has a review on riding it. http://bobbrowncycles.blogspot.com/2009/03/long-time-coming.htmlhttp://bobbrowncycles.blogspot.com/2009/04/belt-driven.html -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam and Carbon Belt Drive
I have ridden a belt drive bike that was a sort of an early proof-of- concept/prototype bike for Speedhound, and was suitably impressed with the quiet-ness and lack of the mushy feel I expected for some reason. It is a nice idea, but limited to freewheeling single-speeds and IGHs, which are two drivetrain mechanisms that don't generally appeal to me (this week). See Speedhound and its innovative dropout system here: http://www.speedhoundbikes.com/ On Dec 4, 10:54 am, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: Thanks for those links. I love the belt concept but I was really unimpressed with the part about it popping off the cog unless everything is perfectly aligned. After a couple of painful mashups like Bob describes, how could you ever trust the thing? I don't remember if i've posted these links to this or another group, but St. Paul framebuilder Bob Brown has done a belt drive conversion to one of his own bikes and written about it. He later broke the belt, though Gates said that one was apparently defective and replaced it free. The first link at bottom shows his retrofit, and the second one has a review on riding it. http://bobbrowncycles.blogspot.com/2009/03/long-time-coming.htmlhttp:... -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A bicycle for my fifty something year old mother.
I've not ridden a Milano, but I have ridden chromo Japanese mixtes, and those, too, can be dogs, compared to a good road frame, anyway. Of course, there are so many variables that it is hard to pronounce on the key causes, but I would guess that a good aluminum frame with good tires will be better than a chromo frame with bad ones. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I had a Bianchi Milano for a while. Cool looking but really not that fun to ride. It was fine for short errands but I wouldn't recommend it for longer rides. It has a very dead feeling frame with big aluminum tubes, and a sluggish ride. I agree with Mr. Thill's idea for a mixte fixer-upper. Peugeots are fine but are made from lesser steel, and you have to deal with French threading. You can find old Japanese mixtes made from chrome moly (also some Raleighs and Carltons) that provide a better foundation from which to build, IMHO. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam and Carbon Belt Drive
There was a thread about the belt-drive Trek Soho on a commuting forum that I occasionally participarte in. Three Soho owners chimed in and two of them said that after a period of time, their belts became very loud. Gates worked with one of them (through their Trek dealer) and they were able to quiet the drive on a couple of occasions but the noise continued to recur. I like the concept of the belt drive but that would be a deal breaker for me. Shaun Meehan On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I have ridden a belt drive bike that was a sort of an early proof-of- concept/prototype bike for Speedhound, and was suitably impressed with the quiet-ness and lack of the mushy feel I expected for some reason. It is a nice idea, but limited to freewheeling single-speeds and IGHs, which are two drivetrain mechanisms that don't generally appeal to me (this week). See Speedhound and its innovative dropout system here: http://www.speedhoundbikes.com/ On Dec 4, 10:54 am, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: Thanks for those links. I love the belt concept but I was really unimpressed with the part about it popping off the cog unless everything is perfectly aligned. After a couple of painful mashups like Bob describes, how could you ever trust the thing? I don't remember if i've posted these links to this or another group, but St. Paul framebuilder Bob Brown has done a belt drive conversion to one of his own bikes and written about it. He later broke the belt, though Gates said that one was apparently defective and replaced it free. The first link at bottom shows his retrofit, and the second one has a review on riding it. http://bobbrowncycles.blogspot.com/2009/03/long-time-coming.htmlhttp:. .. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Added some 105 triple cranks and 4pr sunglasses to the pile...
Winter cleaning yea? I have some random stuff, but added these: 105 5500 series triple cranks with bottom bracket. NOS. $150 shipped Bunch of sunglasses...I can only wear my prescription pair now, so I'm cleaning the drawer. Oakley polarized monster pups - $65 Optic nerve Membranes - $30 (4 lens sets) Optic nerve Fusebox - $35 (4 lens sets) Zeal Zoonie - $35 OR I will sell/ship all 4 pair for $125 paypal preferred but not mandatory Pictures: http://tinyurl.com/lg56lg Thanks guys and gals! Brad hbclick at yahoo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
on 12/4/09 7:11 AM, David Faller at dfal...@charter.net wrote: I second the motion. Most serious riders (racers) that I encounter have a sole focus. They know nothing about their bike, they don't use it for anything other than sporting equipment. The bike doesn't fit right, is ill-maintained, etc. but the rider has on the cutting edge kit. Looks the part, but couldn't tell you about one component on the bike. Why is that more serious than what I do? I don't really think it's appropriate to draw lines or make generalizations about most riders of any interest. Aside from that, it's really outside of the focus of this group and the topic of this thread. Thanks! - Jim / list admin -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! - http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I thought the idea was to waste the rest of our lives together.. -- Cyril, Breaking Away -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
In a message dated 12/4/2009 10:49:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, whalen...@gmail.com writes: How do you get your Ram down to 20 lbs? Actually, pretty easy. I got mine under 20 lbs by using Campy Record 10 speed components and Mavic Ksyrium SL wheels - which I find to be indestructible. The other stuff is all Nitto, Brooks, SPD pedals. Bill Louisville, Ky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Waxing Well
that sounds like a great idea. However, my bags are full of road grit. I'd like to clean them somehow before applying the wax without damaging the leather bits. any advice on that? best s On Dec 3, 7:15 am, mcrawford mcrawf...@artic.edu wrote: Filson makes a paste wax for re-proofing their waxed cotton garments. I've used it on a Baggins with positive results. Hot weather, a heat gun or oven helps the wax to flow into the fabric. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
Very interesting, as I'm a Campy fan. Is this the Record gruppo with alloy cranks and levers or carbon? Do you have any photos online? On Dec 4, 10:07 am, bpus...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/4/2009 10:49:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, whalen...@gmail.com writes: How do you get your Ram down to 20 lbs? Actually, pretty easy. I got mine under 20 lbs by using Campy Record 10 speed components and Mavic Ksyrium SL wheels - which I find to be indestructible. The other stuff is all Nitto, Brooks, SPD pedals. Bill Louisville, Ky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing Well
on 12/4/09 10:13 AM, sanjoser at thomas.savar...@gmail.com wrote: that sounds like a great idea. However, my bags are full of road grit. I'd like to clean them somehow before applying the wax without damaging the leather bits. any advice on that? I was just going to throw my Baggins Banana Bag in to the washer. Was going to try the Kookaburra wash as detergent. Well, unless someone replys that this is a monumentally bad idea... Will report back on the results. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Workshops of the iBob's Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines My nighttime attitude is anyone can run you down and get away with it. That's why I don't even own a bike light or one of those godawful reflective suits. Because if you've put yourself in a position where someone has to see you in order for you to be safe...you've already blown it. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
In a message dated 12/4/2009 1:51:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com writes: Very interesting, as I'm a Campy fan. Is this the Record gruppo with alloy cranks and levers or carbon? Do you have any photos online? It's the carbon Record gruppo. I had not intended to use this with the Rambouillet frame but the dark carbon with the dark green frame looked spectacular. Sorry, no photos online. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam and Carbon Belt Drive
Same here. The real appeal of belt-drive would be a system that stayed cleaner and quieter with less maintenance. There isn't enough wrong with a chain-drive system to settle for anything less. Bill On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: There was a thread about the belt-drive Trek Soho on a commuting forum that I occasionally participarte in. Three Soho owners chimed in and two of them said that after a period of time, their belts became very loud. Gates worked with one of them (through their Trek dealer) and they were able to quiet the drive on a couple of occasions but the noise continued to recur. I like the concept of the belt drive but that would be a deal breaker for me. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tracking Number!!!
Congratulations on the new QB man- you're psyched! I agree with the above post- Rivendell's packaging standards are pretty out of this world. Your bike will be travelling in comfort to say the least. On Dec 3, 10:58 pm, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: When I checked my personal email after work I discovered that I'd been sent the tracking number for my new Quickbeam. Since I live in Honolulu it's going to take a few days, but if all goes as planned it will arrive next Tuesday, 12/8. I'd actually spoken with Jay at Riv about some last minute things this morning and he said they were boxing it up after taking a test ride and such. There is a big difference, I've discovered, between being told it is going to ship and actually getting a tracking number. Now comes the hard part...waiting. Still, living in the middle of the Pacific, I've had lots of practice. I plan on documenting the unpacking and such so I'll let everyone know how it goes. Aloha! -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrixblog.statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 62cm Upgraded Quickbeam for Sale
Pretty much looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pguillam/2335320807/ The Deal: 1) You donate $500 to the Val Kleitz Benefit Fund via PayPal. Go to http://www.rideyourbike.com/ and follow the link to Aaron’s PayPal Account. 2) You donate $750 to the Thornton Creek School (Expedition Learning Seattle Public School) Parent Group by sending a check and a note to: Principal John Miner Attn: Thornton Creek Parent Group 7711 43rd Avenue NE Seattle, WA 98115 http://www.seattleschools.org/schools/ae2/ 3) You pick up the bike in North Seattle (no boxing, shipping - local pick-up only) In short, for $1250 you get a beautifully maintained, lightly ridden (no, it's not brand new, but it’s in excellent condition with minimal beausage), significantly upgraded, original-green Rivendell Quickbeam, and your money goes to two important and worthy Seattle institutions. Bicycle Details: 62 CM Rivendell Quickbeam Original Green TA Pista Crank w/ TA 42 ring TA Bottom Bracket Chris King Headset Paul Neo Retro canti brakes Phil Wood Hubs with Mavic Open Pro 32 hole rims (built by Bob Freeman at Elliot Bay Bicycles) Rivendell RuffyTuffy tires White Industries 17/19 2-speed freewheel Nitto Technomic stem with Nitto Albatross Bars MKS touring pedals Saddle and luggage not included. First committed off list email takes it, and if more than one commitment comes in, I'll prioritize in the order received. Once the buyer confirms the donations, we’ll arrange pick-up details. You’ll love the bike, I’ll probably throw in some good extra bits, and the money goes to two good causes, so a leap of faith is warranted. Thanks, Frank (Fulton) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam and Carbon Belt Drive
Bicycle chains have been refined and improved for well over 100 years now. Belts are the future. Once there's a belt that's reliable AND has a coupling, or a way to cut and re-bond it - so we can install it on existing frames - look out. I know about the Speedhound frame but it's very expensive. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 62cm Upgraded Quickbeam for Sale
A Quickbeam cannot be more nicely equipped than that. A good deal for a good cause. Makes me wish it was my size. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam and Carbon Belt Drive
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 14:16 -0800, jim_OLP wrote: Bicycle chains have been refined and improved for well over 100 years now. Belts are the future. Once there's a belt that's reliable AND has a coupling, or a way to cut and re-bond it - so we can install it on existing frames - look out. I know about the Speedhound frame but it's very expensive. Doesn't a belt drive eliminate the possibility of derailleurs, leaving you with only single-speed and internal geared hub options? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
On Dec 4, 11:03 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: However, if you look around most riding web sites, and engage in conversation with people about bikes on a regular basis, there is a decidedly marked tendency to refer to racers and racing bikes as 'serious' and other uses 'casual.' my poodles feel the same way. they take offense to being grouped in the non-sporting breed group, especially when we see all those pudgy labradors with custom collars and haughty weimaraners, who really look the part with those sleek lines but are quite clueless when it comes to actual sporting. and then there are those perfectly groomed setters that only fetch on the weekends. my dogs hike, run, swim, and retrieve regularly. they even go mountain biking with me. so, it's easy to see whey they are a bit resentful about being tagged non- sporting just because they don't hunt and participate in field activities. i've argued this point with sporting breed owners ad nauseum and written to the AKC, but nobody seems to care. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 14:30 -0800, Patrick in VT wrote: my poodles feel the same way. they take offense to being grouped in the non-sporting breed group, especially when we see all those pudgy labradors with custom collars and haughty weimaraners, who really look the part with those sleek lines but are quite clueless when it comes to actual sporting. and then there are those perfectly groomed setters that only fetch on the weekends. my dogs hike, run, swim, and retrieve regularly. they even go mountain biking with me. so, it's easy to see whey they are a bit resentful about being tagged non- sporting just because they don't hunt and participate in field activities. You know what that reminds me of? I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tracking Number!!!
You guys are all making the packing sound so good maybe I'll just leave it packed for a few days and admire it. Now back to reality. :-) Aloha! On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:20 AM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote: Congratulations on the new QB man- you're psyched! I agree with the above post- Rivendell's packaging standards are pretty out of this world. Your bike will be travelling in comfort to say the least. On Dec 3, 10:58 pm, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: When I checked my personal email after work I discovered that I'd been sent the tracking number for my new Quickbeam. Since I live in Honolulu it's going to take a few days, but if all goes as planned it will arrive next Tuesday, 12/8. I'd actually spoken with Jay at Riv about some last minute things this morning and he said they were boxing it up after taking a test ride and such. There is a big difference, I've discovered, between being told it is going to ship and actually getting a tracking number. Now comes the hard part...waiting. Still, living in the middle of the Pacific, I've had lots of practice. I plan on documenting the unpacking and such so I'll let everyone know how it goes. Aloha! -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrixblog.statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrixblog.statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] When and where to get a frame repainted.
I have an older Riv that could use a new skin. Where in the San Francisco area should I look to get it painted? Are there multiple options? I am either going to go one of two ways - single color no decals, or nice multi-color riv-ish paint with original decals. Is it feasible to never get it painted? I am concerned with frame longevity also. -Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted 13/30 7 spd cassette
Longleaf Bicycles appears to carry them: http://www.longleafbicycles.com/products/components/cassettes-chains-freewheels/seven-speed-cassettes/ Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Dec 2, 12:55 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Harris Cycles has the HG-50 7 spd 13-30 for $30. Lickton's has it at $27.95. I love the 7 spd 13-30. It's just fabulous paired up with a 26/36/48 and 650B wheels! On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 10:30 -0800, Eric Norris wrote: I have an 11-28 HG 8-speed in silver. Brand new. Yours for $40 shipped. --Eric www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Wednesday, December 02, 2009, at 09:40AM, Victoria Perry perr...@maine.rr.com wrote: Hello- Fairly new to this group and I have been quite happy with the content and tone very pleasant Like minds I guess. Would anyone have to sell or know where I can get a HG 70 or 50 or 90 13/30 cassette silver or grey preferable, new or very slightly used. Thanks C. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam and Carbon Belt Drive
At present, yes. I also think internal gear hubs are the future, although a lot of improvement is needed there, too. Some one will probably come up with a belt that can be derailled but only by some new sort of derailleur. On Dec 4, 4:19 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 14:16 -0800, jim_OLP wrote: Bicycle chains have been refined and improved for well over 100 years now. Belts are the future. Once there's a belt that's reliable AND has a coupling, or a way to cut and re-bond it - so we can install it on existing frames - look out. I know about the Speedhound frame but it's very expensive. Doesn't a belt drive eliminate the possibility of derailleurs, leaving you with only single-speed and internal geared hub options? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: When and where to get a frame repainted.
On Dec 4, 4:00 pm, J L subfas...@gmail.com wrote: I have an older Riv that could use a new skin. Where in the San Francisco area should I look to get it painted? -Jason Here in The Bay Area I'd call Ed Litton but you could also just send it to Joe Bell for that factory fresh feeling. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: When and where to get a frame repainted.
I think it depends on your budget. In my area ( Seattle ) I paid about $300 for a single color paint job which seemed high for a bicycle frame but in fairness there was quite a bit of masking for chrome etc. I later did another bike with powdercoating and only paid $75 for a two layer metallic clear coat over a solid base color. The looks aren't quite the same but close enough for me. If you live in a mild climate with generally nice weather, I'll bet you could just wax your bike and use touch up paint and never have rust issues. I have one 25 year old frame with original paint and I rode it for three years chips and all and did just what I mentioned with no rust forming that I could see. All bare steel forms a layer of oxide (rust) that protects the metal under it to some degree. Unless you leave your bicycle exposed to adverse conditions all the time with no maintenance (cleaning waxing) you should be fine..however a nice new paint job is pleasing to the eye. On Dec 4, 4:00 pm, J L subfas...@gmail.com wrote: I have an older Riv that could use a new skin. Where in the San Francisco area should I look to get it painted? Are there multiple options? I am either going to go one of two ways - single color no decals, or nice multi-color riv-ish paint with original decals. Is it feasible to never get it painted? I am concerned with frame longevity also. -Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
On Dec 3, 9:34 am, Shawn sa240...@yahoo.com wrote: I have been thinking of making my Hilsen more of a roadish type bike to use on week-end rides with my friends on our smooth local MUP. snip Is the Rambouillet a better road bike than the Hilsen? I don't think so. The Rambouillet has about 5mm less of the exact same tubing per fork end; which makes it less adaptable, should you decide to switch back to larger tires. http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=saluki.10502.0058.eml I'd strip it down, build a relatively light wheelset and use great tires if I wanted a dedicated go-fast bike. John McMurry Burlington, VT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] early heads-up FS notice: All-Rounder 59cm
I'll be posting a more detailed listing in a day or so after I arrive at an asking price, but I'm going to be selling my Rivendell 59cm All- Rounder. Pics on Flickr at the link at the end of this post. The frame is a work of art and in wonderful shape (built by Joe Starck and painted by Joe Bell, I believe -- will confirm). Has 26 wheels and an impressively long head tube! Has 1.75 tires on it now but could take up to 2 tires. Great for trails, dirt, gravel. But good on pavement, too. It's been my commuter, and I took it on RAGBRAI this year as a loaded tourer, and it excelled at that, too. http://www.flickr.com/photos/10076...@n03/sets/72157611346659083/ Forrest Meyer Iowa City -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
Hi John. I'm just very curious how the saddle stands up to rain. You mentioned you had been putting in mostly rainy miles. Did you use a saddle cover? How'd the saddle behave? Corwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: early heads-up FS notice: All-Rounder 59cm
Does it come with antifreeze? On Dec 4, 7:06 pm, Forrest ftme...@me.com wrote: I'll be posting a more detailed listing in a day or so after I arrive at an asking price, but I'm going to be selling my Rivendell 59cm All- Rounder. Pics on Flickr at the link at the end of this post. The frame is a work of art and in wonderful shape (built by Joe Starck and painted by Joe Bell, I believe -- will confirm). Has 26 wheels and an impressively long head tube! Has 1.75 tires on it now but could take up to 2 tires. Great for trails, dirt, gravel. But good on pavement, too. It's been my commuter, and I took it on RAGBRAI this year as a loaded tourer, and it excelled at that, too. http://www.flickr.com/photos/10076...@n03/sets/72157611346659083/ Forrest Meyer Iowa City -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] early heads-up FS notice: All-Rounder 59cm
Ahh, I love that bike!!! How long is the top tube? On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Forrest ftme...@me.com wrote: I'll be posting a more detailed listing in a day or so after I arrive at an asking price, but I'm going to be selling my Rivendell 59cm All- Rounder. Pics on Flickr at the link at the end of this post. The frame is a work of art and in wonderful shape (built by Joe Starck and painted by Joe Bell, I believe -- will confirm). Has 26 wheels and an impressively long head tube! Has 1.75 tires on it now but could take up to 2 tires. Great for trails, dirt, gravel. But good on pavement, too. It's been my commuter, and I took it on RAGBRAI this year as a loaded tourer, and it excelled at that, too. http://www.flickr.com/photos/10076...@n03/sets/72157611346659083/ Forrest Meyer Iowa City -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: early heads-up FS notice: All-Rounder 59cm
That can be arranged. On Dec 4, 10:10 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Does it come with antifreeze? On Dec 4, 7:06 pm, Forrest ftme...@me.com wrote: I'll be posting a more detailed listing in a day or so after I arrive at an asking price, but I'm going to be selling my Rivendell 59cm All- Rounder. Pics on Flickr at the link at the end of this post. The frame is a work of art and in wonderful shape (built by Joe Starck and painted by Joe Bell, I believe -- will confirm). Has 26 wheels and an impressively long head tube! Has 1.75 tires on it now but could take up to 2 tires. Great for trails, dirt, gravel. But good on pavement, too. It's been my commuter, and I took it on RAGBRAI this year as a loaded tourer, and it excelled at that, too. http://www.flickr.com/photos/10076...@n03/sets/72157611346659083/ Forrest Meyer Iowa City -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
