Re: [RBW] a snowy mt. diablo

2009-12-09 Thread erik jensen
Followups:

Cheryl; It was not too bad, but I definitely understand why they had closed
the road. The worst part of the descent was simply having to take it easy
and get much colder than I would've otherwise since it took longer (I had
full wind protection for the descent).

Brad, Manuel, David; I'm glad you enjoyed the photos, we're lucky to have
such wonderful bicycles... Not to get overly contemplative, but often I feel
as though my rides are symbiotic affairs between my bike, camera, and self.
Each encourages the other.

George; Living in Nebraska for many years, I was forced to learn to use my
framing to maximize the quality of a given situation. The limits to scenery
composition there forced me to think about it. I've never studied still
photography, but my father is a cinematographer and the lessons were passed
down. Your commendation means much. Since you mentioned a pinhole camera,
I'll offer a modern method I've enjoyed as a thanks. Using a fine drill bit,
you can thin the center of the stock lens cap of any DSLR. Use a pin to
finish the job, and you can use that to get close (some replace the middle
with a metal patch to improve the 'lens'). I've made one and carry it in my
bag; though I rarely use it, it is something to consider if you can
appreciate the technique as it only adds a couple grams to your kit.

Cheers to all, and let's keep enjoying the wintry weather. I know it's
coming down heavy elsewhere right now!

erik


On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:06 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 Those were great!  Thanks for sharing the link!

 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:08 PM, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.comwrote:

 Happy to share and thanks the compliments!

 jinxed: 14 degrees is cold. It was easy enough to stay warm on the way up,
 but after the sun went down things got brisk. I have ample winter cycling
 gear leftover from my previous home (omaha), so I was able to stay
 moderately comfy with lobster gloves and the like. Still, hard not to shiver
 coasting 11 miles downhill when it's below freezing. In retrospect, I should
 have worn my lake boots.

 Eric: I used two cameras: a ricoh grd-II in the front pocket of my rando
 bag for quick captures; and a Canon 40d with a 17-85 lens and a polarizer
 for the landscapes.

 Cheers,

 erik

 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@mac.com wrote:

 Erik:

 Nice shots!  What kind of camera did you use?

 --Eric
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 www.campyonly.com
 www.wheelsnorth.org



 On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:25 AM, erik jensen wrote:

 Hi RBWers,

 The Atlantis and I took off this afternoon for a spin up a snow-covered
 Mt. Diablo. The variety of colors and light up there today were quite
 unique, and it was wonderful to get just a bit of snow riding in out here in
 CA.

 Post here;
 http://bikenoir.blogspot.com/2009/12/snow-on-mt-diablo.html

 Cheers,

 erik
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Re: [RBW] Re: Current Classics Tuesdayt Batch Ends on a Bleriot

2009-12-09 Thread Z
Thanks for posting my RB-1/7 and my Eros.  It took a while but it was worth the 
wait.  It's good to see them on the site and to have the chance to answer 
questions about them.  Keep up the good work!

Z





From: charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com
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Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 11:59:34 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Current Classics Tuesdayt Batch Ends on a Bleriot

I had the same experience and wonder also but do always enjoy seeing
so many nice bicycles at one site.


On Dec 8, 7:30 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Jim,

 Thanks for the update of your wonderful site. I am curious about how
 you prioritize updates. I submitted an Independent Fabrication
 cyclocross bike to crossbi...@cyclofiend.com in October, and since I
 didn't hear back, re-submitted in mid November. Still no answer, so I
 sent an email to your email address listed in this forum. Still no
 answer.

 I know you have a day job, and I love your site, I am just trying to
 figure out why I haven't heard back from you, and why my bike hasn't
 posted to the site.

 Cheers,

 Gernot

 On Dec 9, 3:32 am, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:

  Very nice shot indeed! Nice bike too!

  René

  On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:08 PM, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.netwrote:

   I know that Manuel posted his flickr link here already, but I just found
   myself lingering over him images this morning as I was updating the 
   gallery
   -

  http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2009/cc745-manuelacosta1209.html

   I really love the second image and the sunset shot. Great stuff!

   - Jim

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[RBW] Re: Old pictures of First bike Tour.

2009-12-09 Thread Mark
Manny,
 THAT was an awsome story! Way to go! It expresses what is really
important in life and I am so proud of you and, Duy and Ryan. I am all
alone out here in NC but I feel inspired to do something similar.

Congratulations on clearing out the head and reviving the heart!

Surf


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[RBW] Run Over Your Rambouillet, Get a Roadeo

2009-12-09 Thread Hondo
Oh I know she didn't mean to, but...Yeah, my Rivendell-ravenous wife
(inadvertantly) backed the family car over her beloved Rambouillet
last month, mortally wounding it. Coincidentally, the awesomely
beautiful Roadeo popped up on Riv's frame specials - and I thought I
was the only one in the fam who while'd-away time drooling over the
Riv website. Alas, yesterday, this here husband turned Santa and
picked out, and up a minty-blue 59cm (she's 5' 10) Roadeo frame. I
must say, the Riv gang nailed this one - I am totally jealous. (Rich
almost had me selling my Della Santa in favor of my own Roadeo - damn,
if he didn't get close!) Once we get it put together I post pics.
Interesting to note, according to Mark, the preference for threadless
vs threaded stem on this frame is dead even at 50-50 so far. I guess
if you are espousing a light weight bike, then why not go threadless.

BTW, the killer feature on this bike is the neatly placed, diminutive
rear fender attachment, place just behind the BB. Very cool design.

Cheers! (my first post here)

mh

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[RBW] Re: Run Over Your Rambouillet, Get a Roadeo

2009-12-09 Thread JoelMatthews
Great story.

We will definitely want to see some pics of the bike after gift
giving.  Riv is doing some nice things with color on the Roadeos.

On Dec 9, 9:04 am, Hondo m...@rivertownl.com wrote:
 Oh I know she didn't mean to, but...Yeah, my Rivendell-ravenous wife
 (inadvertantly) backed the family car over her beloved Rambouillet
 last month, mortally wounding it. Coincidentally, the awesomely
 beautiful Roadeo popped up on Riv's frame specials - and I thought I
 was the only one in the fam who while'd-away time drooling over the
 Riv website. Alas, yesterday, this here husband turned Santa and
 picked out, and up a minty-blue 59cm (she's 5' 10) Roadeo frame. I
 must say, the Riv gang nailed this one - I am totally jealous. (Rich
 almost had me selling my Della Santa in favor of my own Roadeo - damn,
 if he didn't get close!) Once we get it put together I post pics.
 Interesting to note, according to Mark, the preference for threadless
 vs threaded stem on this frame is dead even at 50-50 so far. I guess
 if you are espousing a light weight bike, then why not go threadless.

 BTW, the killer feature on this bike is the neatly placed, diminutive
 rear fender attachment, place just behind the BB. Very cool design.

 Cheers! (my first post here)

 mh

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

2009-12-09 Thread newenglandbike


On Dec 9, 12:09 am, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I guess I should note that when I first straddle the bike I was terribly
 worried that it was too big. I'm a 95 pbh and this is a 66cm QB. The thing
 is, I could feel the top tube pretty high up there and had a moment.

 Then I realized I wasn't wearing shoes. I put on my normal riding shoes
 (just plain old New Balance walking shoes really) and tried again. It still
 felt a bit big but then I lifted the bike and really jammed it up there as
 that's as high as it's going to get. The bike was quite a ways off the
 ground so really there's plenty of clearance.

 I guess that's what happens to new Riv owners the first time they experience
 a properly sized frame. :-)

 As for the actually fit when riding...perfect. Really perfect.


Wow, nice bike!   I really dig the moustache bars, and the silver
looks excellent.As far as sizing goes, I have a 64cm QB and my PBH
is only about 89cm-   I could probably stand over it without any shoes
on, but *just*. However, as you point out, everything's peachy
when riding and is extremely comfortable-  I wouldn't want to go any
smaller, the bar adjustment window would be too low, and I imagine the
TT might feel too short.From your photos, it looks as though
you're able to get the bars right where you need them and that you got
the perfect size.

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[RBW] What parts are going on Roadeos

2009-12-09 Thread usuk2007
Now that Roadeos are being delivered I'd be interested to know what
parts folks are putting on them. Campy, Sram, Shimano., TA Sugino,
Ultegra Dura Ace etc and what the cost is coming to.

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[RBW] Re: Building my new Bombadil... at last!!!

2009-12-09 Thread newenglandbike
Daang man, that thing is sweet!   Let us know how the Swift feels-
most people seem to think they are very comfortable and _really_ good
quality.   I have yet to try one and am curious, but cautious since
they're a little more $$.

On Dec 8, 12:25 am, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
 Today in the afternoon there was a very nice break in the rain and I drove
 up to RBW to pick up my new Bombadil frame. Such a long anticipation...

 Here are the pictures of the build as it is coming along. Not yet finished,
 but wanted to share with everyone. The color is definitely awesome.
 Depending on the light and your eyes, it's either definitely green, almost
 black but not quite the same as the saddle, or something in between. I think
 that it's going to keep growing in me, just like the Homer's Waterford blue.
 You can tell that the paint job has its small imperfections and details, but
 somehow I'm not upset and think they give the bike some character and are a
 premonition of the many scratches that I'm sure I'll add as soon as I take
 it off-road and mountain biking.

 Here is the report of what I've done so far...
 - Installed RaceFace Team XC external BB with a set of RaceFace Atlas cranks
 I had to which I had installed Shimano XT 22-32-44 rings.
 - Installed Shimano HC-61 12-36 cassette; it's still not widely available,
 but found one online.
 - Put Panaracer 29 x 2.35 knobby tires, but am a bit concerned with the
 clearance between the knobs and the stays. The current clearance is 4mm, but
 the rear wheel appears not to be perfectly dished as it is 1mm closer on one
 side. I'm sure Rick will adjust it when I go back to RBW. Is this clearance
 too tight? Should I go down to 29 x 2.0 Specialized El Capitan Control
 tires?
 - Going to try a Brooks Swift saddle, if I don't like it I'll put a B-17.
 - Installed Nitto drop stem and Moustache handlebars. Have both seat and
 handlebars roughly adjusted, fine tuning will be done later.

 In parallel I'm installing the Paul Racer brakes on the Homer, so I'll post
 those pictures when I'm done in a separate thread... :-)

 Pictures of current progress can be found 
 here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/72157622958472288/

 When I'm done I'll upload a set to the Bombadil group and send pictures to
 Cyclofiend as well.

 Will send another update tomorrow... what an exciting night!

 René

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[RBW] Honjo Fender Install

2009-12-09 Thread Jon Grant
D-dang, y¹all. This is real hard.

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

2009-12-09 Thread Esteban
 As for the actually fit when riding...perfect. Really perfect.

I think this is what a lot of us experience.  I could never imagine
fitting a 62, then I started riding mine, and fit is perfect.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Dec 9, 8:26 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Dec 9, 12:09 am, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote:

  I guess I should note that when I first straddle the bike I was terribly
  worried that it was too big. I'm a 95 pbh and this is a 66cm QB. The thing
  is, I could feel the top tube pretty high up there and had a moment.

  Then I realized I wasn't wearing shoes. I put on my normal riding shoes
  (just plain old New Balance walking shoes really) and tried again. It still
  felt a bit big but then I lifted the bike and really jammed it up there as
  that's as high as it's going to get. The bike was quite a ways off the
  ground so really there's plenty of clearance.

  I guess that's what happens to new Riv owners the first time they experience
  a properly sized frame. :-)

  As for the actually fit when riding...perfect. Really perfect.

 Wow, nice bike!   I really dig the moustache bars, and the silver
 looks excellent.    As far as sizing goes, I have a 64cm QB and my PBH
 is only about 89cm-   I could probably stand over it without any shoes
 on, but *just*.     However, as you point out, everything's peachy
 when riding and is extremely comfortable-  I wouldn't want to go any
 smaller, the bar adjustment window would be too low, and I imagine the
 TT might feel too short.    From your photos, it looks as though
 you're able to get the bars right where you need them and that you got
 the perfect size.

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[RBW] Re: Introduction from Austin, TX

2009-12-09 Thread Jeff
Clif,
 I find the hills of the Dam Loop (60 miles of 360/2244/620) are
good training for our rides.  When you get serious, you'll want to
become a RUSA member, but Wayne (our RBA) is welcoming to all
cyclists, RUSA or not.  I'd love to see more traditional minded
(lugged steel, Brooks, racks and bags) cyclists in our ranks.  If you
can average 15 mph over 100 miles, you're ready for a 200K.  Slower is
fine, too.  You're bound to have company whatever pace you ride at.
Far more important than fast is to be prepared (self-sufficient for
repairs), efficient in and out of controls (checkpoint stops), well
fueled, dressed for the range of temperatures and so forth.

 Hope to see you in January.  Maybe we won't have 20 degree bottle
freezing weather like last Saturday!

Jeff

On Dec 8, 12:51 pm, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hey Jeff,

 I'm gearing up for riding with you guys on a brevet or two. I wasn't
 ready for you guys this last Saturday and I'll have to see how my
 training goes through cedar season for the Jan. brevet but by this
 time next year I hope to be there. (Fingers crossed and knocking on
 wood.)

 Clifhttp://hardmenwithsoftbellies.wordpress.com/

 On Dec 8, 12:19 pm, Jeff newbe...@mail.utexas.edu wrote:

  I cannot believe Chela has to park out on the street!  She used to
  keep it secure in the loading dock where I work.  That just ain't
  right!

  I'm a local randonneur on a Heron.  Looking forward to meeting the
  Austin Rivendell crowd and drafting you into the brevet riding
  scene.  If not this year, then maybe the next (when it's a PBP year
  and suddenly the hipsters swap their fixies for vintage French cyclo-
  touring bikes. . .)

  Jeff

  On Dec 8, 8:44 am, sean seanobr...@hotmail.com wrote:

   That's Chela Metzger's Saluki. She is one of the UT Libraries (and
   School of Information) Rivendell contingent.

   Sean

   On Dec 7, 11:13 pm, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote:

I see that one several times a week around the Hyde Park area. Serious
commuter. I've complemented her on her bike while riding my Quickbeam
but haven't talked with her more than that.

Clifhttp://hardmenwithsoftbellies.wordpress.com/

On Dec 7, 9:57 pm, Beardpapa gts...@gmail.com wrote:

 I walked out of the Clay Pit on Guadalupe today and saw this:

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy235/beardpapa/saluki.jpg

 Anyone?

 On Dec 3, 12:26 pm, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

  Shawn,

  Tyler State Park (just north of town) is a good place for bike
  camping.  I've done a couple of S24Os there.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951...@n08/sets/72157612820991950/

  Angus

  On Dec 2, 10:20 pm, shawn calamari6...@gmail.com wrote:

   Angus,
   I'm not in Tyler often, but am happy to know you are representing
   there. I would like to camp out that way sometime, I've heard it's
   really beautiful there.

   On Dec 1, 9:17 pm, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

That is a great looking RB-T Shawn!  Love those bikes.

I'm a bit further away, but there are other like minded 
cyclists in
the great state of Texas.

Angus Tyler TX

If you are ever in the area...

On Nov 30, 8:47 pm, shawn calamari6...@gmail.com wrote:

 HI All,
 I have been lurking here for a few weeks, and thought I would 
 finally
 introduce myself. Although I do not currently own a Rivendell 
 (I'm in
 Grad school) I do have two Bridgestones and hope that I will 
 be
 welcome here. I definitely subscribe to the Rivendell/Grant 
 Petersen
 philosophy and look forward to participating in future 
 conversations.
 Here are some pics of my bikes:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4149086420/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4148325593/in/photostream/

 Thanks,
 Shawn
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[RBW] Run Over Your Rambouillet, Get a Roadeo

2009-12-09 Thread franklyn
This is to return the thread to Hondo's original topic.

I hope at least you have some sort of insurance to cover the loss of
the Rambouillet, and that most of the parts are unharmed and can be
transferred to the Roadeo.

Pictures will be great!

Franklyn
(I don't have my car anywhere close to my bikes, that's for sure)

On Dec 9, 9:13 am, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote:
 D-dang, y¹all. This is real hard.

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Re: [RBW] Honjo Fender Install

2009-12-09 Thread Rene Sterental
I spent the best part of a Satuirday installing mine. Just think of
yourself as an article finishing your masterpiece and take your
time... :-D

René

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 D-dang, y¹all. This is real hard.

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

2009-12-09 Thread RoadieRyan
Brah your face must be hurting from all that smiling!  I am not sure
if I am more Jealous of your new QB or the fact that you are in
Hawaii!

For context its been in the 20s and into the teens hear in the Pacific
NW for the last week.  In Seattle we crumble once the temps go outside
our 50 to 85 degree comfort zone  ;-)

Thanks for sharing the photos, I have been hearing for a long time
about the amazing Riv packing and all I can say after seeing your
photos is .,wow

Keep on Pedaling and Smiling

Chapeau on a gorgeous bike.

RR

Abike and light-hearted, I take to the open road,
Healthy, free, the world before me,
The long brown path before me, leading wherever I choose.
(with apologies to W.Wordsworth)



On Dec 9, 9:37 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
  As for the actually fit when riding...perfect. Really perfect.

 I think this is what a lot of us experience.  I could never imagine
 fitting a 62, then I started riding mine, and fit is perfect.

 Esteban
 San Diego, Calif.

 On Dec 9, 8:26 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:



  On Dec 9, 12:09 am, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote:

   I guess I should note that when I first straddle the bike I was terribly
   worried that it was too big. I'm a 95 pbh and this is a 66cm QB. The thing
   is, I could feel the top tube pretty high up there and had a moment.

   Then I realized I wasn't wearing shoes. I put on my normal riding shoes
   (just plain old New Balance walking shoes really) and tried again. It 
   still
   felt a bit big but then I lifted the bike and really jammed it up there as
   that's as high as it's going to get. The bike was quite a ways off the
   ground so really there's plenty of clearance.

   I guess that's what happens to new Riv owners the first time they 
   experience
   a properly sized frame. :-)

   As for the actually fit when riding...perfect. Really perfect.

  Wow, nice bike!   I really dig the moustache bars, and the silver
  looks excellent.    As far as sizing goes, I have a 64cm QB and my PBH
  is only about 89cm-   I could probably stand over it without any shoes
  on, but *just*.     However, as you point out, everything's peachy
  when riding and is extremely comfortable-  I wouldn't want to go any
  smaller, the bar adjustment window would be too low, and I imagine the
  TT might feel too short.    From your photos, it looks as though
  you're able to get the bars right where you need them and that you got
  the perfect size.- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] panniers

2009-12-09 Thread jandrews_nyc
I think I read somewhere that Riv is going to release a pannier set...
Does anyone know if this is true? I'm in the market for a set...maybe
two and don't want to purchase until I see what Riv comes up with...
Will they be part of the Sackville lineup?
WIll they be more for commuting or touring specific?
Anyone have any ideas?
Also..still on the prowl for an appropriate Sam Hillborne Green paint
touch up source...
Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 2:35 PM, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think I read somewhere that Riv is going to release a pannier set...
 Does anyone know if this is true? I'm in the market for a set...maybe
 two and don't want to purchase until I see what Riv comes up with...
 Will they be part of the Sackville lineup?
 WIll they be more for commuting or touring specific?
 Anyone have any ideas?

I hadn't heard about panniers but I would love to see new bags in the
brand-v line. I like mine very much so far.

-sv

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Re: [RBW] Honjo Fender Install

2009-12-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Read Hiroshi's complete, well- conceived and well-articulated
instructions on the Jitensha site. It didn't take me more than 40
minutes to install my Honjos, tho' I'd cut my teeth on a pair of
Berthouds a couple of years earlier.

Basically: hold up to frame, mark, drill, bolt. It helps a huge amount
to use a workstand that allows you to flip the frame upside down.

On 12/9/09, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
 I spent the best part of a Satuirday installing mine. Just think of
 yourself as an article finishing your masterpiece and take your
 time... :-D

 René

 On 12/9/09, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote:
 D-dang, y¹all. This is real hard.

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 Austin, Texas

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[RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Nicole E.
I've also read somewhere that there are panniers in the works, but I
can't remember whether or not it was a credible source.  I'm in the
market for panniers and have been waiting for Riv to update their
shop.

I bought a Nigel Smythe country bag and lil loafer, but I realized
that I need much more room for commuting (though I'll probably keep
the duo for fun rambling rides).  On my usual commute I need to carry
a laptop, power cord, the usual personal items, a sandwich, a thermos,
a few books, maybe a collapsible back pillow, and still have
theoretical room for a few groceries on the ride home.  Unfortunately,
I can't carry anything on my back while I ride, so it's all got to get
strapped to the bike somehow.  Right now I'm using a handmade wooden
box, but I'd rather have something classy and canvas with a lid so
that I can leave the contents unattended for a few minutes when I run
into a store (an open box seems to have take me, I'm free written
all over it).

I'm debating between a Nigel Smythe Big Box and the as-of-yet-unseen
panniers, but another consideration is that I don't have an office
(and probably wont for at least another year and a half), and so my
bike ends up being locked up outside all over Berkeley and Oakland
cafes for hours at a time.  That's led me to look for some easily
detachable setup that turns into a messenger bag when I need to unload
the bike, something like these from Basil:

(The Weekender) http://www.seattlebikesupply.com/item/145054
(The Messenger) http://www.seattlebikesupply.com/catalog/bags-packs/messenger

I'm still hoping for the Rivendell holy grail before I decide to try
out the Basil, though.

- Nicole



On Dec 9, 11:35 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think I read somewhere that Riv is going to release a pannier set...
 Does anyone know if this is true? I'm in the market for a set...maybe
 two and don't want to purchase until I see what Riv comes up with...
 Will they be part of the Sackville lineup?
 WIll they be more for commuting or touring specific?
 Anyone have any ideas?
 Also..still on the prowl for an appropriate Sam Hillborne Green paint
 touch up source...
 Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Nicole E. nicolemea...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've also read somewhere that there are panniers in the works, but I
 can't remember whether or not it was a credible source.  I'm in the
 market for panniers and have been waiting for Riv to update their
 shop.

 I bought a Nigel Smythe country bag and lil loafer, but I realized
 that I need much more room for commuting (though I'll probably keep
 the duo for fun rambling rides).  On my usual commute I need to carry
 a laptop, power cord, the usual personal items, a sandwich, a thermos,
 a few books, maybe a collapsible back pillow, and still have
 theoretical room for a few groceries on the ride home.  Unfortunately,
 I can't carry anything on my back while I ride, so it's all got to get
 strapped to the bike somehow.  Right now I'm using a handmade wooden
 box, but I'd rather have something classy and canvas with a lid so
 that I can leave the contents unattended for a few minutes when I run
 into a store (an open box seems to have take me, I'm free written
 all over it).

 I'm debating between a Nigel Smythe Big Box and the as-of-yet-unseen
 panniers, but another consideration is that I don't have an office
 (and probably wont for at least another year and a half), and so my
 bike ends up being locked up outside all over Berkeley and Oakland
 cafes for hours at a time.  That's led me to look for some easily
 detachable setup that turns into a messenger bag when I need to unload
 the bike, something like these from Basil:

 (The Weekender) http://www.seattlebikesupply.com/item/145054
 (The Messenger) http://www.seattlebikesupply.com/catalog/bags-packs/messenger

 I'm still hoping for the Rivendell holy grail before I decide to try
 out the Basil, though.

What about trying out a front or rear wald basket with one of these:
http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bags_and_racks#product=20-205

they unclip to come right out, looks like the large would be a great
size and the wald baskets LOOK great empty or not.

looks like this in a basket:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7556...@n06/4012913670/

-sv

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[RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Nicholas Grieco
Rivendell News, August 20th 2009
http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/148

  We WILL have panniers and a messenger bag (--maybe on
  that) in the Spring. There are still some mounting details
  to work out for the panniers. The big companies use plastic
  hardware that their in-house industrial designers design,
  then they order millions of them to get the per-piece cost
  down, and that's not in the cards for us. If we can work
  out a dumbed-down version that works 95 percent as well,
  we'll go that way. We're about 75 percent of the way there
  now, but it's not on the front-burner right now.

On Dec 9, 11:35 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think I read somewhere that Riv is going to release a pannier set...
 Does anyone know if this is true? I'm in the market for a set...maybe
 two and don't want to purchase until I see what Riv comes up with...
 Will they be part of the Sackville lineup?
 WIll they be more for commuting or touring specific?
 Anyone have any ideas?
 Also..still on the prowl for an appropriate Sam Hillborne Green paint
 touch up source...
 Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] What parts are going on Roadeos

2009-12-09 Thread nawrock


And if I could add, threaded or threadless? 



Dave Nawrocki 
Fort Collins, CO 

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Subject: [RBW] What parts are going on Roadeos 

Now that Roadeos are being delivered I'd be interested to know what 
parts folks are putting on them. Campy, Sram, Shimano., TA Sugino, 
Ultegra Dura Ace etc and what the cost is coming to. 

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[RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Nicole E.
Actually, the Wald basket/ShopSack combo doesn't look like a bad
idea!  The ShopSack isn't quite as classy as I had in mind (I'm trying
to avoid the professor-hobo look, although I seem to keep replicating
it in spite of myself), but it might end up fitting the bill.  I do
like how neatly the bag fits into the Wald basket, and presumably one
could leave it attached as a lining when it's not needed for use as a
mega-bag.

The only thing, though, is that I'm not sure I'd like to have a basket
strapped to the bike all the time (that's something annoying about
this wooden box I have now), and the zip-tie attachment makes it hard
to remove.

But it's definitely a smart option worth considering!

How are other people commuting (in style or otherwise) these days?


 What about trying out a front or rear wald basket with one of 
 these:http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bags_and_racks#product=20-205

 they unclip to come right out, looks like the large would be a great
 size and the wald baskets LOOK great empty or not.

 looks like this in a 
 basket:http://www.flickr.com/photos/7556...@n06/4012913670/

 -sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Nicole E. nicolemea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Actually, the Wald basket/ShopSack combo doesn't look like a bad
 idea!  The ShopSack isn't quite as classy as I had in mind (I'm trying
 to avoid the professor-hobo look, although I seem to keep replicating
 it in spite of myself), but it might end up fitting the bill.  I do
 like how neatly the bag fits into the Wald basket, and presumably one
 could leave it attached as a lining when it's not needed for use as a
 mega-bag.

 The only thing, though, is that I'm not sure I'd like to have a basket
 strapped to the bike all the time (that's something annoying about
 this wooden box I have now), and the zip-tie attachment makes it hard
 to remove.

 But it's definitely a smart option worth considering!

 How are other people commuting (in style or otherwise) these days?



Re-openable zipties. They are the way, the truth and the light and I
cannot find a good place to buy more from. The great big ones which
came with my road morph-g pump would be perfect but I need MORE OF
THEM.

any ideas?

-sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Bill Connell
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Nicole E. nicolemea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Actually, the Wald basket/ShopSack combo doesn't look like a bad
 idea!  The ShopSack isn't quite as classy as I had in mind (I'm trying
 to avoid the professor-hobo look, although I seem to keep replicating
 it in spite of myself), but it might end up fitting the bill.  I do
 like how neatly the bag fits into the Wald basket, and presumably one
 could leave it attached as a lining when it's not needed for use as a
 mega-bag.

 The only thing, though, is that I'm not sure I'd like to have a basket
 strapped to the bike all the time (that's something annoying about
 this wooden box I have now), and the zip-tie attachment makes it hard
 to remove.

 But it's definitely a smart option worth considering!

 How are other people commuting (in style or otherwise) these days?


It's not a cheap option (esp. with the rack requirement), but i think
the new Riv Slickersack looks fantastic. I've been making my own
saddlebags lately as a winter project. The newest one is at the bottom
of this post (click pic for bigger version). Speedblend haters should
probably avoid looking, it's not a subdued bag  :-)
http://wjc.fidean.net/log/2009/12/08/saddlebags/

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St. Paul, MN

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Re: [RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote:


 It's not a cheap option (esp. with the rack requirement), but i think
 the new Riv Slickersack looks fantastic. I've been making my own
 saddlebags lately as a winter project. The newest one is at the bottom
 of this post (click pic for bigger version). Speedblend haters should
 probably avoid looking, it's not a subdued bag  :-)
 http://wjc.fidean.net/log/2009/12/08/saddlebags/

Bill,
 Those look great! I've been doing the same. I've made a keven's bag
copy and a copy of the 2-strap bag that acorn makes. I plan on making
something like the nigel smythe a friend of mine has. It's been a lot
of fun and I've learned  a bunch about what makes sense in a bag.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Nicole E.
Beautiful bags, Bill!

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RE: [RBW] Re: New Touring Frames from Bruce Gordon Cycles

2009-12-09 Thread Bruce Gordon
SHAMELESS SELF-PROMOTION ALERT!!!

I'm announcing a Sale on the New Taiwanese BLT (Basic Loaded Tour) frames -
The offer is good until December 24th.

Check the Video out on my Blog Spot - at -
http://brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/

Regards and Happy Holidays,
Bruce Gordon
www.bgcycles.com


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Re: [RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Bill Connell
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote:


 It's not a cheap option (esp. with the rack requirement), but i think
 the new Riv Slickersack looks fantastic. I've been making my own
 saddlebags lately as a winter project. The newest one is at the bottom
 of this post (click pic for bigger version). Speedblend haters should
 probably avoid looking, it's not a subdued bag  :-)
 http://wjc.fidean.net/log/2009/12/08/saddlebags/

 Bill,
  Those look great! I've been doing the same. I've made a keven's bag
 copy and a copy of the 2-strap bag that acorn makes. I plan on making
 something like the nigel smythe a friend of mine has. It's been a lot
 of fun and I've learned  a bunch about what makes sense in a bag.


Thanks! Once you've made a saddlebag or two, you really appreciate the
amount of work that goes into the Rivendell (and Carradice and Acorn,
etc., etc.) bags. It's not as simple as you think, and there are a lot
of little details that make a big difference in usability.

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[RBW] Re: New Touring Frames from Bruce Gordon Cycles

2009-12-09 Thread bfd


On Dec 9, 2:07 pm, Bruce Gordon bgcyc...@svn.net wrote:
 SHAMELESS SELF-PROMOTION ALERT!!!

 I'm announcing a Sale on the New Taiwanese BLT (Basic Loaded Tour) frames -
 The offer is good until December 24th.

 Check the Video out on my Blog Spot - at 
 -http://brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/

First, GREAT VIDEO!!!  $100 off list and it comes with his California-made 
front and rear racks! Wow

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RE: [RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I use a Big Box with the Nitto Quick Release gizmo (on Riv website) on a 
Bombadil commuter.  It's a fantastic combo -- the Big Box is HUGE, and very 
good looking (excellent usable pockets, too).  The Quick Release works 
perfectly and has two added benefits: it drastically minimizes swaying of the 
bag (it's a very firm connection), and it works great as a carry handle for the 
bag when it's off the bike.

Highly recommend it. 

-Original Message-
From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicole E.
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:17 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: panniers

I've also read somewhere that there are panniers in the works, but I can't 
remember whether or not it was a credible source.  I'm in the market for 
panniers and have been waiting for Riv to update their shop.

I bought a Nigel Smythe country bag and lil loafer, but I realized that I need 
much more room for commuting (though I'll probably keep the duo for fun 
rambling rides).  On my usual commute I need to carry a laptop, power cord, the 
usual personal items, a sandwich, a thermos, a few books, maybe a collapsible 
back pillow, and still have theoretical room for a few groceries on the ride 
home.  Unfortunately, I can't carry anything on my back while I ride, so it's 
all got to get strapped to the bike somehow.  Right now I'm using a handmade 
wooden box, but I'd rather have something classy and canvas with a lid so that 
I can leave the contents unattended for a few minutes when I run into a store 
(an open box seems to have take me, I'm free written all over it).

I'm debating between a Nigel Smythe Big Box and the as-of-yet-unseen panniers, 
but another consideration is that I don't have an office (and probably wont for 
at least another year and a half), and so my bike ends up being locked up 
outside all over Berkeley and Oakland cafes for hours at a time.  That's led me 
to look for some easily detachable setup that turns into a messenger bag when I 
need to unload the bike, something like these from Basil:

(The Weekender) http://www.seattlebikesupply.com/item/145054
(The Messenger) http://www.seattlebikesupply.com/catalog/bags-packs/messenger

I'm still hoping for the Rivendell holy grail before I decide to try out the 
Basil, though.

- Nicole



On Dec 9, 11:35 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think I read somewhere that Riv is going to release a pannier set...
 Does anyone know if this is true? I'm in the market for a set...maybe 
 two and don't want to purchase until I see what Riv comes up with...
 Will they be part of the Sackville lineup?
 WIll they be more for commuting or touring specific?
 Anyone have any ideas?
 Also..still on the prowl for an appropriate Sam Hillborne Green paint 
 touch up source...
 Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J
thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote:
 I use a Big Box with the Nitto Quick Release gizmo (on Riv website) on a 
 Bombadil commuter.  It's a fantastic combo -- the Big Box is HUGE, and very 
 good looking (excellent usable pockets, too).  The Quick Release works 
 perfectly and has two added benefits: it drastically minimizes swaying of the 
 bag (it's a very firm connection), and it works great as a carry handle for 
 the bag when it's off the bike.

 Highly recommend it.


Please to be  adding pictures. I'd like to see what you're talking about here.

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RE: [RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Seth:

The bike it was on is being repainted (a Bombadil clear powdercoat that didn't 
like the salt air of the Jersey Shore), so I can't post the actual pictures, 
unless I can find an old one.  I'll look tonight. But the Nitto Saddlebag Grip 
(what I called the Quick Release) is here (if I have the link right -- if not, 
go to Bags and Racks on Riv website, second page has the Nitto Saddlebag Grip), 
and there's a picture there.  
http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bags_and_racks?a=1page=3#product=20-109

You can actually get an even tighter connection than the one shown if you put 
the buckle inside the bag, so that all that shows outside is the strap.   
Releases in 1 second, reattaches in 1 second, totally solid connection, just a 
great product. Pricey, of course, but worth it, in my book.

Tom

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On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote:
 I use a Big Box with the Nitto Quick Release gizmo (on Riv website) on a 
 Bombadil commuter.  It's a fantastic combo -- the Big Box is HUGE, and very 
 good looking (excellent usable pockets, too).  The Quick Release works 
 perfectly and has two added benefits: it drastically minimizes swaying of the 
 bag (it's a very firm connection), and it works great as a carry handle for 
 the bag when it's off the bike.

 Highly recommend it.


Please to be  adding pictures. I'd like to see what you're talking about here.

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

2009-12-09 Thread doug peterson
Robert:

Thanks for the photos!  Now I want a new bike just so I can open the
box!  I worked from home so when my Atlantis showed up, that was the
end of work for that dayand maybe a bit of the next.  They've
improved the packing.  The white tube protecting the headset and HT is
new, and the attachment for the block protecting the top of the seat
tube.  It amazes me that they got a 66 cm frame in a UPS box with the
rack.  Mine's 58 cm and in order to get into a box within the UPS
limits without going oversize, I have to take off the racks (rear
sticks up too high), seat, h'bars,  flip the forks round.  And then
it all just barely fits.  If you've still got the box, would you mind
measuring?  One of my touring buds has a 58 cm LHT and he gives up and
has a bike shop pack it.  I'm too stubborn ( cheap).

The completed bike is beautiful.  Every time I see new bike photos
like these, before it gets all rack'd'n'sack'd, I want to go rip all
that stuff off my bike so I can see it again.  Don't clutter it up too
much!

dougP

On Dec 9, 10:54 am, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Brah your face must be hurting from all that smiling!  I am not sure
 if I am more Jealous of your new QB or the fact that you are in
 Hawaii!

 For context its been in the 20s and into the teens hear in the Pacific
 NW for the last week.  In Seattle we crumble once the temps go outside
 our 50 to 85 degree comfort zone  ;-)

 Thanks for sharing the photos, I have been hearing for a long time
 about the amazing Riv packing and all I can say after seeing your
 photos is .,wow

 Keep on Pedaling and Smiling

 Chapeau on a gorgeous bike.

 RR

 Abike and light-hearted, I take to the open road,
 Healthy, free, the world before me,
 The long brown path before me, leading wherever I choose.
 (with apologies to W.Wordsworth)

 On Dec 9, 9:37 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:



   As for the actually fit when riding...perfect. Really perfect.

  I think this is what a lot of us experience.  I could never imagine
  fitting a 62, then I started riding mine, and fit is perfect.

  Esteban
  San Diego, Calif.

  On Dec 9, 8:26 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Dec 9, 12:09 am, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote:

I guess I should note that when I first straddle the bike I was terribly
worried that it was too big. I'm a 95 pbh and this is a 66cm QB. The 
thing
is, I could feel the top tube pretty high up there and had a moment.

Then I realized I wasn't wearing shoes. I put on my normal riding shoes
(just plain old New Balance walking shoes really) and tried again. It 
still
felt a bit big but then I lifted the bike and really jammed it up there 
as
that's as high as it's going to get. The bike was quite a ways off the
ground so really there's plenty of clearance.

I guess that's what happens to new Riv owners the first time they 
experience
a properly sized frame. :-)

As for the actually fit when riding...perfect. Really perfect.

   Wow, nice bike!   I really dig the moustache bars, and the silver
   looks excellent.    As far as sizing goes, I have a 64cm QB and my PBH
   is only about 89cm-   I could probably stand over it without any shoes
   on, but *just*.     However, as you point out, everything's peachy
   when riding and is extremely comfortable-  I wouldn't want to go any
   smaller, the bar adjustment window would be too low, and I imagine the
   TT might feel too short.    From your photos, it looks as though
   you're able to get the bars right where you need them and that you got
   the perfect size.- Hide quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

2009-12-09 Thread Robert F. Harrison
You're welcome. The packing is pretty amazing, though I'm glad I didn't
spend a whole lot of time admiring it. :-)

Before I forget, the box measures 55x37x10.

As for work, I was coming down with a cold yesterday which I completely
ignored in order to build the bike and take a ride. By the time I got back
in last night I was pretty under the weather and last night was miserable. I
ended up calling sick today. I suspect my co-workers think I stayed home to
play with the bike. I wish.

Still I did take the opportunity to clutter up the bike a bit. It was
purchased to be a commuter, so I really need the fenders, I might have
gotten away without the front rack, but I'm thinking of going with Sackville
SlickerSack (to match my Sackville Saddlesack L) down the road (when I've
got some money again).

Aloha!


On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:33 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 Robert:

 Thanks for the photos!  Now I want a new bike just so I can open the
 box!  I worked from home so when my Atlantis showed up, that was the
 end of work for that dayand maybe a bit of the next.  They've
 improved the packing.  The white tube protecting the headset and HT is
 new, and the attachment for the block protecting the top of the seat
 tube.  It amazes me that they got a 66 cm frame in a UPS box with the
 rack.  Mine's 58 cm and in order to get into a box within the UPS
 limits without going oversize, I have to take off the racks (rear
 sticks up too high), seat, h'bars,  flip the forks round.  And then
 it all just barely fits.  If you've still got the box, would you mind
 measuring?  One of my touring buds has a 58 cm LHT and he gives up and
 has a bike shop pack it.  I'm too stubborn ( cheap).

 The completed bike is beautiful.  Every time I see new bike photos
 like these, before it gets all rack'd'n'sack'd, I want to go rip all
 that stuff off my bike so I can see it again.  Don't clutter it up too
 much!

 dougP

 On Dec 9, 10:54 am, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Brah your face must be hurting from all that smiling!  I am not sure
  if I am more Jealous of your new QB or the fact that you are in
  Hawaii!
 
  For context its been in the 20s and into the teens hear in the Pacific
  NW for the last week.  In Seattle we crumble once the temps go outside
  our 50 to 85 degree comfort zone  ;-)
 
  Thanks for sharing the photos, I have been hearing for a long time
  about the amazing Riv packing and all I can say after seeing your
  photos is .,wow
 
  Keep on Pedaling and Smiling
 
  Chapeau on a gorgeous bike.
 
  RR
 
  Abike and light-hearted, I take to the open road,
  Healthy, free, the world before me,
  The long brown path before me, leading wherever I choose.
  (with apologies to W.Wordsworth)
 
  On Dec 9, 9:37 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
As for the actually fit when riding...perfect. Really perfect.
 
   I think this is what a lot of us experience.  I could never imagine
   fitting a 62, then I started riding mine, and fit is perfect.
 
   Esteban
   San Diego, Calif.
 
   On Dec 9, 8:26 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
On Dec 9, 12:09 am, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I guess I should note that when I first straddle the bike I was
 terribly
 worried that it was too big. I'm a 95 pbh and this is a 66cm QB.
 The thing
 is, I could feel the top tube pretty high up there and had a
 moment.
 
 Then I realized I wasn't wearing shoes. I put on my normal riding
 shoes
 (just plain old New Balance walking shoes really) and tried again.
 It still
 felt a bit big but then I lifted the bike and really jammed it up
 there as
 that's as high as it's going to get. The bike was quite a ways off
 the
 ground so really there's plenty of clearance.
 
 I guess that's what happens to new Riv owners the first time they
 experience
 a properly sized frame. :-)
 
 As for the actually fit when riding...perfect. Really perfect.
 
Wow, nice bike!   I really dig the moustache bars, and the silver
looks excellent.As far as sizing goes, I have a 64cm QB and my
 PBH
is only about 89cm-   I could probably stand over it without any
 shoes
on, but *just*. However, as you point out, everything's peachy
when riding and is extremely comfortable-  I wouldn't want to go any
smaller, the bar adjustment window would be too low, and I imagine
 the
TT might feel too short.From your photos, it looks as though
you're able to get the bars right where you need them and that you
 got
the perfect size.- Hide quoted text -
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Building my new Bombadil... at last!!!

2009-12-09 Thread Rene Sterental
Thanks!

Correction: It's a Swallow saddle, not a Swift.

I took it out of the box, put it on the Bombadil, did a couple of loops on
my patio to check saddle height and get a feel for the bike in its
unfinished state. My butt complained vigorously that this was too narrow and
didn't have the new nice seating area its gotten used to after trying the
B-17 on the Homer. Complained very loudly and involved some additional
members in the region...

Swift saddle went back to the box, backup B-17 saddle got installed on the
Bombadil, butt and neighbors sighed with content once again.

I will be posting the brand new black Swift saddle with Ti rails for sale
shortly on a separate thread.

René
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:31 AM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote:

 Daang man, that thing is sweet!   Let us know how the Swift feels-
 most people seem to think they are very comfortable and _really_ good
 quality.   I have yet to try one and am curious, but cautious since
 they're a little more $$.




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Re: [RBW] Honjo Fender Install

2009-12-09 Thread Rene Sterental
It's the cutting of the teeth that first time that we always remember...
:-D...Thereafter, there is some method to the madness.

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:13 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Read Hiroshi's complete, well- conceived and well-articulated
 instructions on the Jitensha site. It didn't take me more than 40
 minutes to install my Honjos, tho' I'd cut my teeth on a pair of
 Berthouds a couple of years earlier.



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[RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Jim Cloud
I'm somewhat confused about the statement that big companies use
plastic hardware that their in-house industrial designers design.  Is
Gilles Berthoud a big company, I didn't think so.  They do, however,
use many Klick-Fix attachment products that work quite well.  These
are made in Germany by Rixen  Kaul and are available in a large
variety to suit various needs.  Here's a link to an example of the
mounting for Gilles Berthoud' GB1500 panniers:

http://euroasiaimports.net/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=551idproduct=5693

Gilles Berthoud uses the same type of mounting system on their GB799
panniers.  I own a set of the GB799 panniers they mount quite nicely
on a Nitto Campee style rear rack.  Here's a link to a photo from the
Wallingford Bicycle Parts site that shows the bag-making operations at
Gilles Berthoud in 2002 (apparently, they only had one person making
their bags at that time):

http://www.wallbike.com/berthoud/workstour/gbvisit10.html


Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ

On Dec 9, 1:41 pm, Nicholas Grieco nicholasgri...@att.net wrote:
 Rivendell News, August 20th 2009http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/148

   We WILL have panniers and a messenger bag (--maybe on
   that) in the Spring. There are still some mounting details
   to work out for the panniers. The big companies use plastic
   hardware that their in-house industrial designers design,
   then they order millions of them to get the per-piece cost
   down, and that's not in the cards for us. If we can work
   out a dumbed-down version that works 95 percent as well,
   we'll go that way. We're about 75 percent of the way there
   now, but it's not on the front-burner right now.

 On Dec 9, 11:35 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote:

  I think I read somewhere that Riv is going to release a pannier set...
  Does anyone know if this is true? I'm in the market for a set...maybe
  two and don't want to purchase until I see what Riv comes up with...
  Will they be part of the Sackville lineup?
  WIll they be more for commuting or touring specific?
  Anyone have any ideas?
  Also..still on the prowl for an appropriate Sam Hillborne Green paint
  touch up source...
  Thanks!

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[RBW] FS - Ostrich bag and decaleur, VO front and rear racks, TA pedals, Zeus brake levers / maybe honjo hammered fenders for 650b

2009-12-09 Thread rb
Hello - I am the delighted new owner of a beautiful Saluki that you
will recognize, and a sometimes poster here as well.  This is a lovely
bike, rides very nicely, fast and stable; but there are some parts on
it that are either duplications of what I already have, or don't fit
with how I use/will use the bike.

The list -
front VO constructeur rack and integrated decaleur + Ostrich bag  (I
have a bag and will use a different rack)
rear VO constructeur rack (I need a rack that has further setback,
will entertain a swap)
TA pedals (too small for my very big and wide feet)
Zeus brake levers (slightly embarrassing to say, but I will be putting
brifters on). These levers are supremely beautiful and work like a
Leica.

The racks are in virtually new condition, no wear of any sort, as is
the bag
The pedals are of course vintage, but are in excellent shape (and I
will include the leather covered toe clips)
And the brake levers are in immaculate condition

And...if you have a Saluki already...and would like these fenders in
addition to the racksI will ship you the fenders with the racks
already installed (a giant PITA that installation is, i did it on
another bike...painful!)...and even if you have fenders already,
perhaps we can just trade...fenders with racks for fenders without,
assuming they're honjos or similar, and drilled for a Saluki.

Pricing
front rack, bag, and decaleur -  rack - $110.00, bag and decaleur
$105.00
rear rack  $65
TA pedals - $125
Zeus brake levers - I just don't know what the market for these is...I
gladly will entertain suggestions.

Here is a link to photos of the parts taken by the previous owner of
the bikeit's almost sacreligious to take these parts off, this
bike is so well put together / integrated...but the racks don't do
what I need them to; and as much as I enjoy the beauty of the pedals
and levers, they don't fit me as well as others I already have.

http://tinyurl.com/yhlyju9

Please email me off list if you are interested.

Thanks,
Ron

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[RBW] Re: FS - Ostrich bag and decaleur, VO front and rear racks, TA pedals, Zeus brake levers / maybe honjo hammered fenders for 650b

2009-12-09 Thread rob markwardt
I'm glad somebody bought it.  I can't tell you how tempted I was!

On Dec 9, 4:59 pm, rb b...@projectblu.com wrote:
 Hello - I am the delighted new owner of a beautiful Saluki that you
 will recognize, and a sometimes poster here as well.  This is a lovely
 bike, rides very nicely, fast and stable; but there are some parts on
 it that are either duplications of what I already have, or don't fit
 with how I use/will use the bike.

 The list -
 front VO constructeur rack and integrated decaleur + Ostrich bag  (I
 have a bag and will use a different rack)
 rear VO constructeur rack (I need a rack that has further setback,
 will entertain a swap)
 TA pedals (too small for my very big and wide feet)
 Zeus brake levers (slightly embarrassing to say, but I will be putting
 brifters on). These levers are supremely beautiful and work like a
 Leica.

 The racks are in virtually new condition, no wear of any sort, as is
 the bag
 The pedals are of course vintage, but are in excellent shape (and I
 will include the leather covered toe clips)
 And the brake levers are in immaculate condition

 And...if you have a Saluki already...and would like these fenders in
 addition to the racksI will ship you the fenders with the racks
 already installed (a giant PITA that installation is, i did it on
 another bike...painful!)...and even if you have fenders already,
 perhaps we can just trade...fenders with racks for fenders without,
 assuming they're honjos or similar, and drilled for a Saluki.

 Pricing
 front rack, bag, and decaleur -  rack - $110.00, bag and decaleur
 $105.00
 rear rack  $65
 TA pedals - $125
 Zeus brake levers - I just don't know what the market for these is...I
 gladly will entertain suggestions.

 Here is a link to photos of the parts taken by the previous owner of
 the bikeit's almost sacreligious to take these parts off, this
 bike is so well put together / integrated...but the racks don't do
 what I need them to; and as much as I enjoy the beauty of the pedals
 and levers, they don't fit me as well as others I already have.

 http://tinyurl.com/yhlyju9

 Please email me off list if you are interested.

 Thanks,
 Ron

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[RBW] re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread arthur strum
Nicole wrote:


 I'm debating between a Nigel Smythe Big Box and the as-of-yet-unseen
 panniers, but another consideration is that I don't have an office
 (and probably wont for at least another year and a half), and so my
 bike ends up being locked up outside all over Berkeley and Oakland
 cafes for hours at a time. That's led me to look for some easily
 detachable setup that turns into a messenger bag when I need to unload
 the bike, something like these from Basil:

 (The Weekender) http://www.seattlebikesupply.com/item/145054
 (The Messenger) http://www.seattlebikesupply.com/catalog/bags-packs/ 
 messenger

 I'm still hoping for the Rivendell holy grail before I decide to try
 out the Basil, though.

 - Nicole


Nicole:
I seem to have gone through a similar thought process. For a long  
time, I used Ortlieb panniers to commute to work, but it was  
inconvenient to transfer the contents to a bag I could use at work  
(which involves going from classroom to classroom). Now I'm using a  
Carradice saddlebag (Riv's offerings would work well, too) with a  
quick release (read about it here (ingenious!): http:// 
www.cyclofiend.com/working/2009/wbph001-andreball0909.html -- this  
bag carries my lunch and clothes. The other part of my solution is a  
wide front rack with a Carradice Bike Bureau attached to it with the  
clips which usually fit on the rear rack rails. And perhaps a bungee  
over the top. I say 'solution' but this isn't implemented yet,  
because I still need the wide front rack to make it work. But when I  
have the rack, I'll have two quick-releasable bags, and one which  
looks just like a handsome school satchel. (note that the new Bike  
Bureaus are *much* better looking than what you see online, because  
they're using honey leather straps again) Alex Wetmore, who hosts the  
BOB list and many others, gave me the idea for the front setup. He  
uses a messenger bag.

Art
Tacoma

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Re: [RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Brian Hanson
Nicole - I've been using a medium Wald (in front on a Mark's rack) and
Shopsack for a few months now, and I love it.  Super convenient, and easy to
put stuff even under the bag (when I have to bring donuts, and such).  The
bag just clips on, so it's easy to remove and doesn't affect much in the way
of ride-ability.  I've also used the basket as a light mount with the help
of a spare wine cork.  This setup has been better than my Ortlieb office bag
on the other bike, as it's more stuffable and there's more versatility
with a basket in terms of ease of use.  It also stays a lot cleaner being in
the front on the rainy days when the rear panniers tent to get a coating of
road grit.

BTW - for the post about the re-openable zip tie - just cut the old ones off
and use new ties when you want to put it back on.  They're super cheap - get
a big bag at a hardware store and you'll be set for years...

Brian

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 Beautiful bags, Bill!

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Re: [RBW] Run Over Your Rambouillet, Get a Roadeo

2009-12-09 Thread Ray Shine
Welcome to the group!   So, how much would you take for the crunched frame? 

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, franklyn frankly...@gmail.com wrote:

From: franklyn frankly...@gmail.com
Subject: [RBW] Run Over Your Rambouillet, Get a Roadeo
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 10:26 AM

This is to return the thread to Hondo's original topic.

I hope at least you have some sort of insurance to cover the loss of
the Rambouillet, and that most of the parts are unharmed and can be
transferred to the Roadeo.

Pictures will be great!

Franklyn
(I don't have my car anywhere close to my bikes, that's for sure)

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 D-dang, y¹all. This is real hard.

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[RBW] Re: What parts are going on Roadeos

2009-12-09 Thread terryg
umm yeah so I'm going with a stunning bright yellow glittery banana
seat, 3' ape hangers with mirrors and horns (and tassles), red BMX
mag wheels and the coup de grace: a propeller!  It's because of the
threaded steerer tube.

Actually my parts arrived at my LBS, they're all rather Italian in
nature, but of a charming alloy.  I'm going to try the Berthoud
saddle, too.  I'm hoping to test ride this weekend, if the groovy
Chicago weather ... eh screw it, it hasn't stopped me yet!

On Dec 9, 3:28 pm, nawr...@comcast.net wrote:
 And if I could add, threaded or threadless?

 Dave Nawrocki
 Fort Collins, CO



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 Subject: [RBW] What parts are going on Roadeos

 Now that Roadeos are being delivered I'd be interested to know what
 parts folks are putting on them. Campy, Sram, Shimano., TA Sugino,
 Ultegra Dura Ace etc and what the cost is coming to.

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Re: [RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:

 BTW - for the post about the re-openable zip tie - just cut the old ones off
 and use new ties when you want to put it back on.  They're super cheap - get
 a big bag at a hardware store and you'll be set for years...
 Brian


I can't do that - it's much too wasteful. I don't like the idea of
throwing something away like that.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: Run Over Your Rambouillet, Get a Roadeo

2009-12-09 Thread doug peterson
While it's fun to get a new bike, that's a tough way to do so.  I
think I'd hang the damaged frame up somewhere in the garage as a
casual reminder of what can happen when one's attention wanders.
Could happen to any of us.

dougP

On Dec 9, 5:44 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Welcome to the group!   So, how much would you take for the crunched frame?

 --- On Wed, 12/9/09, franklyn frankly...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: franklyn frankly...@gmail.com
 Subject: [RBW] Run Over Your Rambouillet, Get a Roadeo
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 10:26 AM

 This is to return the thread to Hondo's original topic.

 I hope at least you have some sort of insurance to cover the loss of
 the Rambouillet, and that most of the parts are unharmed and can be
 transferred to the Roadeo.

 Pictures will be great!

 Franklyn
 (I don't have my car anywhere close to my bikes, that's for sure)

 On Dec 9, 9:13 am, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote:

  D-dang, y¹all. This is real hard.

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[RBW] Re: What parts are going on Roadeos

2009-12-09 Thread RonLau
Terry,

Are you using the new Veloce?

Ron

On Dec 9, 5:52 pm, terryg teg...@gmail.com wrote:
 umm yeah so I'm going with a stunning bright yellow glittery banana
 seat, 3' ape hangers with mirrors and horns (and tassles), red BMX
 mag wheels and the coup de grace: a propeller!  It's because of the
 threaded steerer tube.

 Actually my parts arrived at my LBS, they're all rather Italian in
 nature, but of a charming alloy.  I'm going to try the Berthoud
 saddle, too.  I'm hoping to test ride this weekend, if the groovy
 Chicago weather ... eh screw it, it hasn't stopped me yet!

 On Dec 9, 3:28 pm, nawr...@comcast.net wrote:

  And if I could add, threaded or threadless?

  Dave Nawrocki
  Fort Collins, CO

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  Subject: [RBW] What parts are going on Roadeos

  Now that Roadeos are being delivered I'd be interested to know what
  parts folks are putting on them. Campy, Sram, Shimano., TA Sugino,
  Ultegra Dura Ace etc and what the cost is coming to.

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[RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread doug peterson
For pannier mounts, I called Wayne at the Touring Store
(touringstore.com)  he had Ortlieb's attachments.  Don't recall what
they're called but they hook over the rack and have a clever little
roll over fitting that wraps around the rack tube.  I fitted these up
to some REI panniers that don't lock properly onto my Nitto rack
(tubing is too big).  Clean, neat fix.

Another adaptation that solves a lot problems is D-rings with small
tubing clamps (any hardware store) and either small bungies or shock
cord.  For instance, I found the 4 Velcro straps on my Acorn bag a bit
awkward, so I fitted the bottom with a couple of D-rings and tie it
down with a bungie.  Quicker  simpler than Acorn's design, easier to
remove and actually puts a bit of tension on the bag so it's more
secure.  With imagination you can make some clean adaptations.  Oh,
and their cheap as well.

dougP

On Dec 9, 5:58 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:
  BTW - for the post about the re-openable zip tie - just cut the old ones off
  and use new ties when you want to put it back on.  They're super cheap - get
  a big bag at a hardware store and you'll be set for years...
  Brian

 I can't do that - it's much too wasteful. I don't like the idea of
 throwing something away like that.

 -sv

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

2009-12-09 Thread doug peterson
Robert:

Thanks for checking the box size.  I was afeared of that when I saw
your photos.  The box Riv used is 149 (girth+length).  UPS  Fed Ex
have 130 as their magic number before going into oversize.  Maybe not
a huge hit with a commercial customer like Riv but I got hit with it
earlier this year, to the tune of something like $45.  It roughly
doubles the cost of shipping a bike within the lower 48.

Keep those photos coming; we're all interested in the finished
product.

dougP

On Dec 9, 4:29 pm, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote:
 You're welcome. The packing is pretty amazing, though I'm glad I didn't
 spend a whole lot of time admiring it. :-)

 Before I forget, the box measures 55x37x10.

 As for work, I was coming down with a cold yesterday which I completely
 ignored in order to build the bike and take a ride. By the time I got back
 in last night I was pretty under the weather and last night was miserable. I
 ended up calling sick today. I suspect my co-workers think I stayed home to
 play with the bike. I wish.

 Still I did take the opportunity to clutter up the bike a bit. It was
 purchased to be a commuter, so I really need the fenders, I might have
 gotten away without the front rack, but I'm thinking of going with Sackville
 SlickerSack (to match my Sackville Saddlesack L) down the road (when I've
 got some money again).

 Aloha!





 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:33 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
  Robert:

  Thanks for the photos!  Now I want a new bike just so I can open the
  box!  I worked from home so when my Atlantis showed up, that was the
  end of work for that dayand maybe a bit of the next.  They've
  improved the packing.  The white tube protecting the headset and HT is
  new, and the attachment for the block protecting the top of the seat
  tube.  It amazes me that they got a 66 cm frame in a UPS box with the
  rack.  Mine's 58 cm and in order to get into a box within the UPS
  limits without going oversize, I have to take off the racks (rear
  sticks up too high), seat, h'bars,  flip the forks round.  And then
  it all just barely fits.  If you've still got the box, would you mind
  measuring?  One of my touring buds has a 58 cm LHT and he gives up and
  has a bike shop pack it.  I'm too stubborn ( cheap).

  The completed bike is beautiful.  Every time I see new bike photos
  like these, before it gets all rack'd'n'sack'd, I want to go rip all
  that stuff off my bike so I can see it again.  Don't clutter it up too
  much!

  dougP

  On Dec 9, 10:54 am, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote:
   Brah your face must be hurting from all that smiling!  I am not sure
   if I am more Jealous of your new QB or the fact that you are in
   Hawaii!

   For context its been in the 20s and into the teens hear in the Pacific
   NW for the last week.  In Seattle we crumble once the temps go outside
   our 50 to 85 degree comfort zone  ;-)

   Thanks for sharing the photos, I have been hearing for a long time
   about the amazing Riv packing and all I can say after seeing your
   photos is .,wow

   Keep on Pedaling and Smiling

   Chapeau on a gorgeous bike.

   RR

   Abike and light-hearted, I take to the open road,
   Healthy, free, the world before me,
   The long brown path before me, leading wherever I choose.
   (with apologies to W.Wordsworth)

   On Dec 9, 9:37 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:

 As for the actually fit when riding...perfect. Really perfect.

I think this is what a lot of us experience.  I could never imagine
fitting a 62, then I started riding mine, and fit is perfect.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Dec 9, 8:26 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Dec 9, 12:09 am, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com
  wrote:

  I guess I should note that when I first straddle the bike I was
  terribly
  worried that it was too big. I'm a 95 pbh and this is a 66cm QB.
  The thing
  is, I could feel the top tube pretty high up there and had a
  moment.

  Then I realized I wasn't wearing shoes. I put on my normal riding
  shoes
  (just plain old New Balance walking shoes really) and tried again.
  It still
  felt a bit big but then I lifted the bike and really jammed it up
  there as
  that's as high as it's going to get. The bike was quite a ways off
  the
  ground so really there's plenty of clearance.

  I guess that's what happens to new Riv owners the first time they
  experience
  a properly sized frame. :-)

  As for the actually fit when riding...perfect. Really perfect.

 Wow, nice bike!   I really dig the moustache bars, and the silver
 looks excellent.    As far as sizing goes, I have a 64cm QB and my
  PBH
 is only about 89cm-   I could probably stand over it without any
  shoes
 on, but *just*.     However, as you point out, everything's peachy
 when riding and is extremely comfortable-  I wouldn't want to go any
 

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

2009-12-09 Thread Robert F. Harrison
I don't really know what the cost to ship my bike was offhand. I do know the
total cost though. I'm not at home right now so I can't  check the invoice.
Out here in Hawaii we just get used to it.

Even though I'm under the weather I had to go out this evening so I took the
following image with my iPhone. It's not a good image, but you can see the
SKS fenders and my large Sackville Saddlesack. I've really got the sack
stuffed too: laptop, tookit, sweater (I have to spend the evening in an
aircon'd room), big sandwich, sodas, and some other stuff I'm sure.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4172722491/

The nice thing about a 66cm bike is that the big Sackville doesn't look
really out of place.

With a cold the fenders took a little doing. SKS fenders are very easy to
put on...the second time around.

I ended up use the SKS Secu-Clips on the back instead of on the front as the
directions indicate for stock installations. In fact I'm not sure how many
of the gear combos I'm going to be able to use and maintain a nice look on
the back. It's not a big concern though.

I've also got a little Planet Bike light on a Paul's Gino mount on the
front.

I'm still trying to decide what to do about lighting. I ride enough at night
around town that it is a concern.

Aloha!

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:49 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 Robert:

 Thanks for checking the box size.  I was afeared of that when I saw
 your photos.  The box Riv used is 149 (girth+length).  UPS  Fed Ex
 have 130 as their magic number before going into oversize.  Maybe not
 a huge hit with a commercial customer like Riv but I got hit with it
 earlier this year, to the tune of something like $45.  It roughly
 doubles the cost of shipping a bike within the lower 48.

 Keep those photos coming; we're all interested in the finished
 product.

 dougP

 On Dec 9, 4:29 pm, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote:
  You're welcome. The packing is pretty amazing, though I'm glad I didn't
  spend a whole lot of time admiring it. :-)
 
  Before I forget, the box measures 55x37x10.
 
  As for work, I was coming down with a cold yesterday which I completely
  ignored in order to build the bike and take a ride. By the time I got
 back
  in last night I was pretty under the weather and last night was
 miserable. I
  ended up calling sick today. I suspect my co-workers think I stayed home
 to
  play with the bike. I wish.
 
  Still I did take the opportunity to clutter up the bike a bit. It was
  purchased to be a commuter, so I really need the fenders, I might have
  gotten away without the front rack, but I'm thinking of going with
 Sackville
  SlickerSack (to match my Sackville Saddlesack L) down the road (when I've
  got some money again).
 
  Aloha!
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:33 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
   Robert:
 
   Thanks for the photos!  Now I want a new bike just so I can open the
   box!  I worked from home so when my Atlantis showed up, that was the
   end of work for that dayand maybe a bit of the next.  They've
   improved the packing.  The white tube protecting the headset and HT is
   new, and the attachment for the block protecting the top of the seat
   tube.  It amazes me that they got a 66 cm frame in a UPS box with the
   rack.  Mine's 58 cm and in order to get into a box within the UPS
   limits without going oversize, I have to take off the racks (rear
   sticks up too high), seat, h'bars,  flip the forks round.  And then
   it all just barely fits.  If you've still got the box, would you mind
   measuring?  One of my touring buds has a 58 cm LHT and he gives up and
   has a bike shop pack it.  I'm too stubborn ( cheap).
 
   The completed bike is beautiful.  Every time I see new bike photos
   like these, before it gets all rack'd'n'sack'd, I want to go rip all
   that stuff off my bike so I can see it again.  Don't clutter it up too
   much!
 
   dougP
 
   On Dec 9, 10:54 am, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote:
Brah your face must be hurting from all that smiling!  I am not sure
if I am more Jealous of your new QB or the fact that you are in
Hawaii!
 
For context its been in the 20s and into the teens hear in the
 Pacific
NW for the last week.  In Seattle we crumble once the temps go
 outside
our 50 to 85 degree comfort zone  ;-)
 
Thanks for sharing the photos, I have been hearing for a long time
about the amazing Riv packing and all I can say after seeing your
photos is .,wow
 
Keep on Pedaling and Smiling
 
Chapeau on a gorgeous bike.
 
RR
 
Abike and light-hearted, I take to the open road,
Healthy, free, the world before me,
The long brown path before me, leading wherever I choose.
(with apologies to W.Wordsworth)
 
On Dec 9, 9:37 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  As for the actually fit when riding...perfect. Really perfect.
 
 I think this is what a lot of us experience.  I could never 

[RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Michael Dakin
Could be tough to beat the connection quality of multiple zip ties--
rock solid.  I get the urge to remove the basket sometimes but I never
do because I too don't like the idea of wasting zip ties (and I know I
want the basket on there most of the time).

I wonder how well three properly sized and placed voile straps would
hold a wald onto a rack.  I'm thinking two placed in parallel along
the narrow dimension of the rack and one along the long dimension.
The straps are slightly elastic (not as elastic as a bungee) and you
can really crank them down tight.  As a bonus the orange color will
certainly add some speed to the bike (skiers too are concerned with
speed hence the color selection).  I have two straps that I use for
backcountry skiing but I don't currently have the urge to snip my zip
ties so the experiment will have to wait for another day.

I figure people on this list will find myriad uses for these wonderful
straps so I'm posting this message regardless that I've not run the
experiment.  They make great stocking-stuffers too.

http://www.voile-usa.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=800Category_Code=VSSProduct_Count=0

(Disclaimer: I have NO personal or business relationship with Voile-
USA.)

 -Mike

On Dec 9, 5:58 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:
  BTW - for the post about the re-openable zip tie - just cut the old ones off
  and use new ties when you want to put it back on.  They're super cheap - get
  a big bag at a hardware store and you'll be set for years...
  Brian

 I can't do that - it's much too wasteful. I don't like the idea of
 throwing something away like that.

 -sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Michael Dakin mpda...@gmail.com wrote:
 Could be tough to beat the connection quality of multiple zip ties--
 rock solid.  I get the urge to remove the basket sometimes but I never
 do because I too don't like the idea of wasting zip ties (and I know I
 want the basket on there most of the time).


Ah ha - I found them:

http://cableorganizer.com/cable-ties-releasable/

-sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: panniers

2009-12-09 Thread james black
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 14:08, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks! Once you've made a saddlebag or two, you really appreciate the
 amount of work that goes into the Rivendell (and Carradice and Acorn,
 etc., etc.) bags. It's not as simple as you think, and there are a lot
 of little details that make a big difference in usability.

That's so true! I recently got my first sewing machine and tried to
make a saddlebag based on a design I dreamt up; kept modifying it in
an effort to make it work; and eventually abandoned the whole project.

You've done great!

James Black
Los Angeles, CA

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[RBW] AT 0154

2009-12-09 Thread rcnute
Lucked into a 56 Atlantis. Yar, thar be a fine vessel, be she.

http://tiny.cc/63aSB

To be finished once I get a long spindle BB for the Sugino AT cranks.
I can't figure out if I want to go plain beige or crazy splash bar
tape.

Ryan

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Re: [RBW] AT 0154

2009-12-09 Thread cyclotourist
So what's the back story???

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:43 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Lucked into a 56 Atlantis. Yar, thar be a fine vessel, be she.

 http://tiny.cc/63aSB

 To be finished once I get a long spindle BB for the Sugino AT cranks.
 I can't figure out if I want to go plain beige or crazy splash bar
 tape.

 Ryan

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Re: [RBW] AT 0154

2009-12-09 Thread James Warren
Ooh, classic original lugs.

You'll love it. 


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From: rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com
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To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] AT 0154

Lucked into a 56 Atlantis. Yar, thar be a fine vessel, be she.

http://tiny.cc/63aSB

To be finished once I get a long spindle BB for the Sugino AT cranks.
I can't figure out if I want to go plain beige or crazy splash bar
tape.

Ryan

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[RBW] Re: AT 0154

2009-12-09 Thread rcnute
It's a complicated story of chance and bike lust.

Awhile ago I was trying to sell a 58 Saluki and got an offer to
trade.  It wasn't what I was looking for at the time, but it seems
like every time fall/winter comes around I want a touring bike (then
in spring/summer I think gee, wouldn't it be fun to get a new fast
bike?).  I was thinking Surly, but then got to thinkin', maybe that
Atlantis is still available?  And here I am.  Now I can wait until
spring/summer to build up the Rambouillet for my go-fast jones.

Ryan

On Dec 9, 9:46 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 So what's the back story???



 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:43 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Lucked into a 56 Atlantis. Yar, thar be a fine vessel, be she.

 http://tiny.cc/63aSB

  To be finished once I get a long spindle BB for the Sugino AT cranks.
  I can't figure out if I want to go plain beige or crazy splash bar
  tape.

  Ryan

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