[RBW] Re: Will Schwalabe Marathon HS 420 - 700x45 - fit on a 59cm Homer Hilsen?

2013-10-06 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Maybe 6 months ago... and just for fun I put a 50mm Big Apple on the front of my AHH. It barely fit (no fender). I did not try the rear, but I think it's possible it would have fit. --Smitty On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 8:34:27 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote: Looking to see what the biggest tire I

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Ron Mc
base layer, insulation layer, wind block - a dictated by the temps and wind chill. Just this morning, I purchased a merino wool base layer, top and bottom, plus an extra pair of merino wool boxer briefs for $97 shipped from sierratradingpost. here was the extra 35% off keycode FNW5634Y good

Re: [RBW] Re: Country Bike (in the city) Ramble, Portland: Saturday October 5

2013-10-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
What a great way to ride a city! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Ron Mc
ps - dehydration is the biggest cause of knee pain - if your knee hurts, stop and hydrate On Sunday, October 6, 2013 6:52:29 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: base layer, insulation layer, wind block - a dictated by the temps and wind chill. Just this morning, I purchased a merino wool base layer,

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
dehydration is the biggest cause of knee pain I've never heard this. Could you please elaborate? With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, October 6, 2013 6:01:52 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: ps - dehydration is the biggest cause of knee pain - if your knee hurts, stop and hydrate -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread clayton bailey
Thanks Ron for the discount code. I have been riding in cold weather now for 25 years. I have lived most of that time in the mountains, but now live in Bend Oregon. I have not been payin' attention to the newest and coolest technical fabrics. I appreciate your advice on the wool. On Sunday,

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread RJM
Really? I would like to hear more about that. I sometimes have terrible knee pain in my left knee but have always chalked it up to the fact I sprained it 15 years ago and it just flares up. If I can find a natural, non-doctor/drug way of alleviating the pain, I would love to. On

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
In my personal experience and that of many others eliminating grains, veggie oils, and processed foods eliminated issues of inflammation. Helped a lot of others as well. Also, in my experience, eliminating those from my diet greatly decreased my need for constant water. With abandon, Patrick

[RBW] Re: Country Bike (in the city) Ramble, Portland: Saturday October 5

2013-10-06 Thread Mike
So bummed I couldn't make this. What a beautiful day. I'll have to figure out where Clapstop Butte is and go check it out. I'm off the next two weekends so maybe some of us can get together for a Sunday morning ramble one of those weekends. Now is the best time of the year to ride Dixie Mtn.

[RBW] Re: Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Garth
Sierra Trading Post is a great place to shop indeed. As I do not wear wool, I have found med. weight long underwear bottoms of Comfortel (very soft cotton like polyester with some lycra) to be outstanding. I've worn them for years and am amazed they still have them !! They have them in

[RBW] Re: FS: Fire Sale

2013-10-06 Thread Corwin
The following items are spoken for: 1) Dynamo wheel. 2) Supernova light. 4) Handlebar bag. 6) Icebreaker wool t-shirt. 7) Brooks team pro saddle. Still have the threadless and Technomic Deluxe Nitto stems. Threadless stems (11 and 13cm) now $30 each. Technomic Deluxe now $40 shipped.

Re: [RBW] 200km in January suggestions

2013-10-06 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
As noted, that was a previous year's ride. Rob (our RBA) has just submitted the 2014 calendar. If you are interested, you should join the SFR which will put you on the email list for announcements. Joining is free. And, I'm NOT going to try to tell someone from MN what weather is like, but

[RBW] Re: First Meeting of The Sunrise Coffee Tea Club

2013-10-06 Thread Avery Wilson
When does the Indianapolis charter do their rides? I'm located in fountain square and I'd love to meet a fellow riv rider for coffee at sunrise someplace! :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] FS: 60cm STT Sam Hillborne F/F +fenders + racks + wheels

2013-10-06 Thread Thomas B
Up for sale is my 60cm STT, lovely green Sam frame and fork, fitted with Bethoud SS fenders, a Nitto top rack and Nitto mini-front. The wheels are XT hubs (old kind) laced to Mavic A119 rims in silver 36 spoke front/rear, shod with Panaracer Paselas 37mm. The frame is in good condition, but

[RBW] Re: FS B17 Special honey/copper

2013-10-06 Thread Reid
Thanks for the info, everyone. The prices when new (Brooks web site) are interesting considering the fairly minor diffs between models. Still, I might just be ready to finally try a Brooks. Mike, yours will be at the top of my list if I decide to do it. Reid -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] 200km in January suggestions

2013-10-06 Thread Bill Lindsay
I rode on a different SFR 200k with a gal from Minnesota. She complained how hard it was to dress for a California brevet. In Minnesota it's easy, check the temperature and put on the right clothes. In California you are very likely to see a 40 degree swing throughout the ride. On Sunday,

Re: [RBW] FS: 60cm STT Sam Hillborne F/F +fenders + racks + wheels

2013-10-06 Thread cyclotourist
Good price... if it was a 56cm I'd be all over that! On 10/5/13, Thomas B darcyspeedobot...@gmail.com wrote: Up for sale is my 60cm STT, lovely green Sam frame and fork, fitted with Bethoud SS fenders, a Nitto top rack and Nitto mini-front. The wheels are XT hubs (old kind) laced to Mavic A119

[RBW] Campy Only!: Ultramarathon Cycling's Demographic Problem

2013-10-06 Thread Eric Norris
I know that many readers on this list aren't interested in ultradistance events, but for those who are, here are some thoughts on the status of the sport: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2013/10/ultramarathon-cyclings-demographic.html --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com

Re: [RBW] Re: FS B17 Special honey/copper

2013-10-06 Thread Hugh Smitham
Interesting note, I had a Brooks tan B17 13 to 15 years ago and didn't have the patients for it to supposedly break in and sold it, then tried one again this year on my AHH with padded underwear, comfortable but when I took the suggestion to discard the padded underwear and just wear the Devold or

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Philip Williamson
You know how you argue against science? You present evidence that doesn't support the theory. And... Actually, that's just More Science. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Campy Only!: Ultramarathon Cycling's Demographic Problem

2013-10-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
A few thoughts: Youth has no inherent aversion to endurance events, as youth is thriving in ultrarunning events, though it is true that developing the aerobic system requires a willingness to not go as fast as I can (a good general formula being not to go over 180-age beats per minute per Phil

[RBW] Re: Campy Only!: Ultramarathon Cycling's Demographic Problem

2013-10-06 Thread Mike Schiller
I think most of the younger endurance racers are into off-road rides. The avg. age of riders on events like the Tour Divide is in the early 30's. Gravel racing is another area where younger riders have found their calling. Long pavement rides just seem more monotonous compared to the

[RBW] Re: First Meeting of The Sunrise Coffee Tea Club

2013-10-06 Thread EGNolan
Avery, I usually do them I. Mondays. I'm on the east side ride downtown to the Eiteljorg to make coffee. Next week sometime perhaps we can meet up? Best, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [RBW] Re: First Meeting of The Sunrise Coffee Tea Club

2013-10-06 Thread Christopher Chen
THIS IS SO EXCITING On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 12:53 PM, EGNolan egno...@gmail.com wrote: Avery, I usually do them I. Mondays. I'm on the east side ride downtown to the Eiteljorg to make coffee. Next week sometime perhaps we can meet up? Best, Eric -- You received this message because you

[RBW] WTB: 56cm Rambouillet or Hilsen

2013-10-06 Thread Greg J
There was a very nice one on the local Craigslist here in the bay area California. Maybe someone here can facilitate, incl myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 10/06/2013 09:51 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: dehydration is the biggest cause of knee pain I've never heard this. Could you please elaborate? I was told by an orthopaedist when you're dehydrated your cartilege shrinks and if it's marginal hey presto, there's your knee pain! -- You

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
This remark has nothing to do with winter pants, but it does bear on knee pain. Ever since my high school days, when I believed that shifting to the smaller ring to climb hills was sissy, I've had a twinge in my left knee after just a bit of torquing a high gear up a hill while seated. (My first

Re: [RBW] Re: So Cal Riders - CicLAvia this Sunday?

2013-10-06 Thread Bryan
No problemo, David. With 90+ degree weather inland, I decided to head for the beach instead: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bwedgar/10124647106/ Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
With midfoot pedaling I have never had a knee twinge. Forefoot pedaling I have. A different way of getting the heel down, same result. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, October 6, 2013 3:13:39 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: This remark has nothing to do with winter pants, but it does bear on

Re: [RBW] Re: So Cal Riders - CicLAvia this Sunday?

2013-10-06 Thread cyclotourist
Good call! I ended up watching ducks: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/10125726105/ On 10/6/13, Bryan bwedg...@gmail.com wrote: No problemo, David. With 90+ degree weather inland, I decided to head for the beach instead: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bwedgar/10124647106/ Bryan --

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
Do you climb in big gears? I tend to place my at the backs of the slots, but I do use the muscles that operate when you pedal with the foot forward of the arch. On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: With midfoot pedaling I have never had a knee twinge.

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
I climb big mountains in little gears, a fair amount of the time standing. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, October 6, 2013 4:03:38 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Do you climb in big gears? I tend to place my at the backs of the slots, but I do use the muscles that operate when you pedal

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
Standing is no problem; no knee pain no matter what the gear or slope. But sitting and torquing is the danger. I just don't feel comfortable with Arch Over Pedal Spindle; it feels artificial. Note that this has nothing to do with No Retention -- I know of one man, not much my junior, who smokes

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
I don't arch pedal, but rear forefoot and outer midfoot pedal, if that makes sense. When I do sit and torque (for rear traction), no knee issues. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, October 6, 2013 4:14:57 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Standing is no problem; no knee pain no matter what the

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
So, perhaps we're much the same -- pedaling just behind the ball of the foot? I find that cleats don't go far enough backward if the bolts have wide heads (as on my Looks). At any rate, that's what I do. Anyway, for The Other Person, pedaling behind the ball of foot seems to help at least two

[RBW] Re: Campy Only!: Ultramarathon Cycling's Demographic Problem

2013-10-06 Thread Scott G.
I talk to people new to the club riding a lot. Number #1 reason people don't cycle is they're scared of riding on the road. Number #2 reason, which probably applies to Ultra events is cycling takes too much time, people would rather run. Getting 4 hours away is tough, when you are expected to

Re: [RBW] Re: First Meeting of The Sunrise Coffee Tea Club

2013-10-06 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Great idea and nice photo documentation! This fits in with an 'event' run out of the Chasing Mailboxes Blog called Coffeeneuring, pretty amusing and fun. The author is based out of DC and the rules were officially amended to include riding to somewhere and making your own coffee! :) Happy

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
Here are two good pictures of it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/10077254556/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/10077255616/ However you'd define that. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, October 6, 2013 4:39:08 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: So, perhaps we're much the same

[RBW] Re: Country Bike (in the city) Ramble, Portland: Saturday October 5

2013-10-06 Thread hsmitham
Naw these photo's don't make me jealous in the slightest...at least I get to live vicariously through these wonderful images of what looks to be an exquisite ramble, relaxation and other to boot. ~Hugh On Saturday, October 5, 2013 9:45:07 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: A few of us from

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
#1 is arch riding --ONONONONO! #2 -- well, maybe. But! Use what works for you. No G-D arches for me, but then I prolly don't climb as high as you, anyway. On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Here are two good pictures of it:

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread hsmitham
Was just reading this thread and Peter M. Dude you made me laugh Try an Android phone, maybe it will keep your hands warmer. ..what makes that so funny is that it's so true! My Android phone totally runs hot. Now my laughing at this comment does not negate the fact that people are different

[RBW] Re: Country Bike (in the city) Ramble, Portland: Saturday October 5

2013-10-06 Thread Zack
it truly was a great ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

Re: [RBW] FS: 60cm STT Sam Hillborne F/F +fenders + racks + wheels

2013-10-06 Thread Eric Daume
Hopefully someone will buy this before my resolve weakens. Or maybe someone will pick up one of the frames I have for sale so I could justify this? http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-for-sale-post.html Eric Daume Dublin, OH On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Thomas B

Re: [RBW] FS: 60cm STT Sam Hillborne F/F +fenders + racks + wheels

2013-10-06 Thread hsmitham
David, I rode a SH 56cm @ RivHq and it fit me really well. Unless there was a huge difference between the center pull Calipered SH's it seems a 60 cm would fit you? That's a nice price and with that stable of spare parts you have... ~Hugh On Sunday, October 6, 2013 9:23:06 AM UTC-7,

[RBW] wtb: Riv Hunqapillar - 54cm - green

2013-10-06 Thread Eric
If you ever consider selling your 54cm green Hunq let me know! I'm on the lookout for one. Thanks! - Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] FS: 60cm STT Sam Hillborne F/F +fenders + racks + wheels

2013-10-06 Thread cyclotourist
I could fit one, but it wouldn't be optimum. A 56 frame is spot on with a 59cm top tube. On 10/6/13, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: David, I rode a SH 56cm @ RivHq and it fit me really well. Unless there was a huge difference between the center pull Calipered SH's it seems a 60 cm

Re: [RBW] FS: 60cm STT Sam Hillborne F/F +fenders + racks + wheels

2013-10-06 Thread Hugh Smitham
Just trying to help lighten your bank account ;-) Best, ~Hugh On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 6:51 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I could fit one, but it wouldn't be optimum. A 56 frame is spot on with a 59cm top tube. On 10/6/13, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: David,

[RBW] Re: WTB: 56cm Rambouillet or Hilsen

2013-10-06 Thread mho
Thanks for the info. Maybe I'll get lucky and one will pop up in my inbox (fingers crossed). On Sunday, October 6, 2013 1:41:36 PM UTC-7, Greg J wrote: There was a very nice one on the local Craigslist here in the bay area California. Maybe someone here can facilitate, incl myself. --

[RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Rod Holland
I've had good luck with Sport Hill 3P XC pants, with a merino wool base layer as needed. Plenty warm enough for tbe worst that Massachusetts winters dish out. rod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] FS: 60cm STT Sam Hillborne F/F +fenders + racks + wheels

2013-10-06 Thread cyclotourist
Very considerate of you! On 10/6/13, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Just trying to help lighten your bank account ;-) Best, ~Hugh On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 6:51 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I could fit one, but it wouldn't be optimum. A 56 frame is spot on

Re: [RBW] FS: 60cm STT Sam Hillborne F/F +fenders + racks + wheels

2013-10-06 Thread Hugh Smitham
Always trying to help a Rivendell find a good barn. Best, ~Hugh On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:15 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Very considerate of you! On 10/6/13, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Just trying to help lighten your bank account ;-) Best,

Re: [RBW] Winter cycling pants

2013-10-06 Thread Peter Morgano
Wait, that's a personal opinion, not allowed according to list police! ;-) On Oct 6, 2013 10:07 PM, Rod Holland rholland1...@gmail.com wrote: I've had good luck with Sport Hill 3P XC pants, with a merino wool base layer as needed. Plenty warm enough for tbe worst that Massachusetts winters

Re: [RBW] Re: Country Bike (in the city) Ramble, Portland: Saturday October 5

2013-10-06 Thread Christopher Chen
Shawn always puts together a great ride. I love all the unknown streets and neighborhoods I discover with the Urban Adventure League. I wish I was there for the whole ride, but I was preoccupied for the first few hours. cc On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: it

Re: [RBW] Re: First Meeting of The Sunrise Coffee Tea Club

2013-10-06 Thread Christopher Chen
All right, I'm gonna announce the meetings on Twitter/Facebook, and cross-post them here. So now you know. Next ride is October 14! Meet at Vera Katz Statue at 6:45 to catch sunrise from Mt. Tabor. https://twitter.com/riseandbike/status/387084406147407872 On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Tony