Re: [RBW] Re: looking for a 64cm Atlantis
Tom, that is a great looking frame. It does not surprise me that you love it and find the ride closer to perfect than anything else. Good luck with the selling of your Atlantis frame and fork. I would grab it immediately if it was larger. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Took the Hunq out for a ride today. I have to loose some weight and need to get out and ride more often. No more excuses.
Yes, that's a beautiful bike. So it's a 58cm, what's your saddle height. That would be the recommended frame size for me but I'm always curious as to how it would look with my saddle height of 80cm. And yeah, I think Patrick offers some good insight here. I'm in a similar boar in terms of recently gaining some weight and needing to change up my diet. Hope you get out for some rides this weekend. --mike On Friday, November 22, 2013 1:19:08 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: Awesome! Here's a little secret: exercise has very little to do with weight while diet has much to do with it. Ride because you love it and have fun and you will ride more often. Eat calorie rich, satisfying foods and you will be full, stop sooner, be full longer, and stop needing snacks between meals. Great looking Hunqapillar! How long have you had it (or it had you?). Grin. With abandon, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Took the Hunq out for a ride today. I have to loose some weight and need to get out and ride more often. No more excuses.
beautiful bike. I burned 4000 calories last weekend. Problem is, for the next 3 days, you want to eat everything in site. But, yes, it's great for your metabolism, and how else can you burn those kind of calories and have fun doing it? On Friday, November 22, 2013 3:12:22 PM UTC-6, Jennings wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?
Leather tape all the way... Don't hang me on this one - I don't have a place for big tires. If I lived some place with good single track riding, I would be completely different about it. But off-road here is blocky limestone and caliche clay that you don't even want on your bike (we pick up enough of it on the pavement). Tried Jack Browns on my daughter's load-hauler, and went back to 28mm Paselas, which have notably lower rolling resistance. I pretty much ride 28mm on all my bikes, give or take a mm. On Friday, November 22, 2013 8:57:56 PM UTC-6, Jim wrote: I feel a little like Rip Van Winkle in this conversation, as I purchased my first adult bike in 1972 with the money I earned pumping gas. It was a fillet brazed Schwinn Super Sport, 66cm, classic road frame. I lusted after a lugged Paramount, but alas, didn't make quite enough scratch that summer to pull it off. I rode that bike until 1986, mainly as a commuter for college, grad school and even my first job working for a Tier I automotive supplier in Detroit (talk about a community that was truly puzzled by this guy coming to work on an orange Schwinn). I still have the bike. But I stopped riding after a bad crash, and didn't start back up until I got to Boulder in 2010. I came to Riv mainly because they had frames my size, but the velosophy, if you will, was very similar to where I had left off in 1986. I remain amused by the whole racer vs. unracer thing, which is very prevalent in Boulder, the kitted out guys tend to ride aggressively towards the plunkers like me; frankly I worry more about them than the automobiles. Having said all that, what I've learned to like in my return to biking is: Fat tires - I love being able to not worry about pavement vs. unpaved roads vs. fire trails. Just Ride. 27mm Schwinn tires = flats Sacks and rear racks - Had neither on my Schwinn, love having the utility Big frames - My Schwinn is far too small, mainly in the top tube length, my knees bang the drops on the handlebars. My Hilsen feels like part of me. What doesn't work? Front Racks - Head tube is so tall, I can't reach anything. Tried the Platrack/Slickersack combo, but ended up selling it. Cloth bartape - I had my bars rewrapped in Brooks leather tape, love the feel of that stuff. Shellac'd tape is meh... What hasn't changed? Brooks B17 - Have one on my Hilsen, have (a 40+ year old one) on my Schwinn Friction shifters - Is there any other kind? Platform pedals - I had toe clips on my Schwinn, but took them off in 2010 when I started riding again, my left knee really squawked DiaCompe brakes - Have 'em on my Schwinn, Riv still sells 'em. Clearance - My Hilsen has nothing on the Schwinn, the latter has massive clearance. Jim in Boulder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?
Chris, I think you did a great job of answering your own question, with the final business answer plugged in by Bill. For me it was always Why QB/SO? Of course I have 8-degree grades to get to my house. Kind of an aside, but it always makes me sizzle when I see a once fine steel road bike emasculated to a single (though always with nice paint) sitting in the obscure corner of a bike shop. On Friday, November 22, 2013 10:27:57 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: another layer of economics is that they have to pay for a lot of frames at once. whenever they have a load of betty foys or hillbornes coming in they have to lay out like $30k. perhaps the cumulative demand for them cant justify that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Surly Pugsley and IGH
A 16 Surly Pugsley custom built with a Shimano Alfine 11. Less than 200 miles on the whole bike; selling to build a tourer for my daughter. *Components*: Jones Loop bar, Avid BB7 brakes and levers, Crank Brothers Cobalt headset, Thomson Elite stem, Raceface seatpost, WTB Pure V saddle, Middleburn crankset paired with an Alfine 11, Eggbeater pedals, Large Marge rims, Larry tires. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-w8eJAlbbi8o/UpDNMuerK-I/AIs/JfoaeQCm0Ac/s1600/CCpugs_web.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-94CXiyjWnXw/UpDNMk-KTCI/AIw/rca1Tjtbi2Y/s1600/photo-6.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Surly Pugsley and IGH
Whoops! Forgot price $1700, cheaper than a new 2014l; basically getting the IGH for free. On Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:44:30 AM UTC-8, Kellie Stapleton wrote: A 16 Surly Pugsley custom built with a Shimano Alfine 11. Less than 200 miles on the whole bike; selling to build a tourer for my daughter. *Components*: Jones Loop bar, Avid BB7 brakes and levers, Crank Brothers Cobalt headset, Thomson Elite stem, Raceface seatpost, WTB Pure V saddle, Middleburn crankset paired with an Alfine 11, Eggbeater pedals, Large Marge rims, Larry tires. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-w8eJAlbbi8o/UpDNMuerK-I/AIs/JfoaeQCm0Ac/s1600/CCpugs_web.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-94CXiyjWnXw/UpDNMk-KTCI/AIw/rca1Tjtbi2Y/s1600/photo-6.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?
Yes: Steel Wool Wide tires / 650b Racks Saddlebags Function New lower end over vintage high end MUSA as an ethos No: Drop bars above saddle Excessive saddle setback Friction over index Schwalbe tires -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?
Chris, if you're ever in the market for one, this is the place to find one. I've started commuting on my Simpleone and I do really enjoy it. A lot. But I may sell it someday if I feel like I need to thin the herd out and downsize... On Friday, November 22, 2013 7:09:49 PM UTC-8, Christopher Murray wrote: I was wondering if anyone knew why these bikes are no longer made. They seem very popular and the people who have one seem very pleased. I have heard several state it is their favorite bike. I assume that the QB went away due to The Lord of the Rings name and became the SO- but why no more SO? I assume it was too much of a niche product and too expensive. In other words, not enough people willing to pay the better part of $2,000 for a bike with one (or four) gears. I imagine it must cost as much to make a Sam as a SO but people aren't willing to pay as much for the SO. It seemed to me like even the description of the SO on Riv.com was a little apologetic about the price. Anyone know the story here? Willing to speculate? Are they gone for good? Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: fs: Marathon Schwalbe Big Apple HS430 wire - 700x50 (PAIR/NEW!)
Bump with price drop...$70 shipped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?
I am loving my 66cm orange QuickBeam. I have a DOS ENO freewheel on one side, and a fixed cog on the other. With JackBrowns and Nitto BullMoose bars, it brings smiles to all who see it, and to me especially when I ride it. But I also understand RBW's economics on this, it was an expensive frame, much the same price as a road frame with rear attachment point for a derailleur. Maybe there's a future frame coming that will have an attachment for shifting as well as semi-horizontal rear forks to allow for wheelbase adjustment. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?
I'm guessing it's a pretty saturated market as well. 1,001 little fixie/SS retailers out there, with the Crosscheck being the king of that niche. None with lugs or the AMAZING angled rear fork-ends, but still hard to distinguish in that crowded marketplace. On 11/23/13, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: I am loving my 66cm orange QuickBeam. I have a DOS ENO freewheel on one side, and a fixed cog on the other. With JackBrowns and Nitto BullMoose bars, it brings smiles to all who see it, and to me especially when I ride it. But I also understand RBW's economics on this, it was an expensive frame, much the same price as a road frame with rear attachment point for a derailleur. Maybe there's a future frame coming that will have an attachment for shifting as well as semi-horizontal rear forks to allow for wheelbase adjustment. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?
On 11/23/2013 09:57 AM, Ron Mc wrote: Tried Jack Browns on my daughter's load-hauler, and went back to 28mm Paselas, which have notably lower rolling resistance. I pretty much ride 28mm on all my bikes, give or take a mm Before concluding the problem in this case was the width of the JB, you should try a 32mm tire with known low rolling resistance such as the Grand Bois Cypres or the 32mm Pasela. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?
Looking for gloves and thought I would see what you all use. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?
Merino wool gloves under Filson goatskin gloves. But I don't usually need them until 25˚F. At temps below 5-10˚F I add a leather/canvas shell mitt. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, November 23, 2013 12:58:41 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Looking for gloves and thought I would see what you all use. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Did Cavemen Eat Yams?
More about the Paleo Diet: http://mumanu.wordpress.com/2013/11/06/archaeologists-officially-declare-collective-sigh-over-paleo-diet/ From the article: “Nearly every food item you currently eat today has been modified from its ancestral form, typically in a drastic way, ” he began. “The notion that we have not yet adapted to eat wheat, yet we have had sufficient time to adapt to kale or lentils is ridiculous. In fact, for most practitioners of the Paleo Diet, who are typically westerners, the majority of the food they consume has been available to their gene pool for less than five centuries. Tomatoes, peppers, squash, potatoes, avocados, pecans, cashews, and blueberries are all New World crops, and have only been on the dinner table of African and Eurasian populations for probably 10 generations of their evolutionary history. Europeans have been eating grain for the last 10,000 years; we’ve been eating sweet potatoes for less than 500. Yet the human body has seemingly adapted perfectly well to yams, let alone pineapple and sunflower seeds.” Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?
the Bullwinkle show is here On Saturday, November 23, 2013 1:40:55 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 11/23/2013 09:57 AM, Ron Mc wrote: Tried Jack Browns on my daughter's load-hauler, and went back to 28mm Paselas, which have notably lower rolling resistance. I pretty much ride 28mm on all my bikes, give or take a mm Before concluding the problem in this case was the width of the JB, you should try a 32mm tire with known low rolling resistance such as the Grand Bois Cypres or the 32mm Pasela. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Did Cavemen Eat Yams?
Sigh. Then it's a bunch of scientists making fools of themselves, much the same as Marlene Zuk did earlier this year. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/is-it-all-just-a-paleofantasy/#axzz2lVLlYgZq, setting up strawmen and knocking them down. I'd recommend for anyone interest in what the topic in general read The Story of the Human Body by Daniel E. Lieberman, an evolutionary biologist. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, November 23, 2013 1:21:33 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: More about the Paleo Diet: http://mumanu.wordpress.com/2013/11/06/archaeologists-officially-declare-collective-sigh-over-paleo-diet/http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fmumanu.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F11%2F06%2Farchaeologists-officially-declare-collective-sigh-over-paleo-diet%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFKrRoXik0x5gJ0ppLfy3latk-xIg From the article: *“Nearly every food item you currently eat today has been modified from its ancestral form, typically in a drastic way, ” he began. “The notion that we have not yet adapted to eat wheat, yet we have had sufficient time to adapt to kale or lentils is ridiculous. In fact, for most practitioners of the Paleo Diet, who are typically westerners, the majority of the food they consume has been available to their gene pool for less than five centuries. Tomatoes, peppers, squash, potatoes, avocados, pecans, cashews, and blueberries are all New World crops, and have only been on the dinner table of African and Eurasian populations for probably 10 generations of their evolutionary history. Europeans have been eating grain for the last 10,000 years; we’ve been eating sweet potatoes for less than 500. Yet the human body has seemingly adapted perfectly well to yams, let alone pineapple and sunflower seeds.”* Eric N www.CampyOnly.comhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.CampyOnly.comsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGVwva41esUdeSnIzp2-tzqJWdDdw CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.comhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2FCampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.comsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFtSPqcPhRgNADDiTdPqOB1Vm-icQ Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Did Cavemen Eat Yams?
Look, the diet itself is sound; it’s the philosophy that’s bullshit. Eat what you want. Just leave the damn cavemen out of it.” On 11/23/2013 04:04 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: Sigh. Then it's a bunch of scientists making fools of themselves, much the same as Marlene Zuk did earlier this year. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/is-it-all-just-a-paleofantasy/#axzz2lVLlYgZq, setting up strawmen and knocking them down. I'd recommend for anyone interest in what the topic in general read The Story of the Human Body by Daniel E. Lieberman, an evolutionary biologist. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, November 23, 2013 1:21:33 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: More about the Paleo Diet: http://mumanu.wordpress.com/2013/11/06/archaeologists-officially-declare-collective-sigh-over-paleo-diet/ http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fmumanu.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F11%2F06%2Farchaeologists-officially-declare-collective-sigh-over-paleo-diet%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFKrRoXik0x5gJ0ppLfy3latk-xIg From the article: /“Nearly every food item you currently eat today has been modified from its ancestral form, typically in a drastic way, ” he began. “The notion that we have not yet adapted to eat wheat, yet we have had sufficient time to adapt to kale or lentils is ridiculous. In fact, for most practitioners of the Paleo Diet, who are typically westerners, the majority of the food they consume has been available to their gene pool for less than five centuries. Tomatoes, peppers, squash, potatoes, avocados, pecans, cashews, and blueberries are all New World crops, and have only been on the dinner table of African and Eurasian populations for probably 10 generations of their evolutionary history. Europeans have been eating grain for the last 10,000 years; we’ve been eating sweet potatoes for less than 500. Yet the human body has seemingly adapted perfectly well to yams, let alone pineapple and sunflower seeds.”/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Did Cavemen Eat Yams?
Yeah, that quote is the most intelligent part of the post (a low bar). Clearly they (the scientists) made little to no attempt to understand the actual science and arguments behind eliminating grains, veggie oils, sugar. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:14:06 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: Look, the diet itself is sound; it�s the philosophy that�s bullshit. Eat what you want. Just leave the damn cavemen out of it.� On 11/23/2013 04:04 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: Sigh. Then it's a bunch of scientists making fools of themselves, much the same as Marlene Zuk did earlier this year.� http://www.marksdailyapple.com/is-it-all-just-a-paleofantasy/#axzz2lVLlYgZqhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marksdailyapple.com%2Fis-it-all-just-a-paleofantasy%2F%23axzz2lVLlYgZqsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFJrHriECkmXcZpwqH98JxDifqyDg, setting up strawmen and knocking them down.� I'd recommend for anyone interest in what the topic in general read The Story of the Human Body by Daniel E. Lieberman, an evolutionary biologist. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, November 23, 2013 1:21:33 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: More about the Paleo Diet: http://mumanu.wordpress.com/2013/11/06/archaeologists-officially-declare-collective-sigh-over-paleo-diet/http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fmumanu.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F11%2F06%2Farchaeologists-officially-declare-collective-sigh-over-paleo-diet%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFKrRoXik0x5gJ0ppLfy3latk-xIg From the article: *�Nearly every food item you currently eat today has been modified from its ancestral form, typically in a drastic way, � he began. �The notion that we have not yet adapted to eat wheat, yet we have had sufficient time to adapt to kale or lentils is ridiculous. In fact, for most�practitioners of the�Paleo Diet, who are typically westerners, the majority of the food they consume has been available to their gene pool for less than five centuries. Tomatoes, peppers, squash, potatoes, avocados, pecans, cashews, and blueberries are all New World crops, and have only been on the dinner table of African and Eurasian populations for probably 10 generations of their evolutionary history. Europeans have been eating grain for the last 10,000 years; we�ve been eating sweet potatoes for less than 500. Yet the human body has seemingly adapted perfectly well to yams, let alone pineapple and sunflower seeds.�* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Did Cavemen Eat Yams?
Evolution is All made up lol. . . . .just like the Article . Eat what you want , whatever you want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?
I have a pair of Pearl Izumi Lobster gloves that work well when its cold. The cross between gloves and mittens is nice. When I was in SE Mich. they were really good. Since I have been in the SF bay area I virtually never use them. On Saturday, November 23, 2013 11:58:41 AM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Looking for gloves and thought I would see what you all use. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Did Cavemen Eat Yams?
Marlene Zuk is a fool but Sisson we should listen to? Patrick, I love you man, but step away from the cool aid. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?
From the intermittent availability of the QB/SO model, and the discounted blowout of the last of the SimpleOnes not long after they arrived, it seems clear that they didn't sell well enough for RBW to maintain the model. I find it odd and depressing that this is the case but so it goes. As others have noted the fixed gear / single speed market is a bit of a niche one. Like all RBW bikes these were not the lowest price option out there, and it seems those who want a ss/fixed gear mostly avail themselves of one of those other options. Personally I am glad I got one before they were gone. As best I can tell they are (or were) the only off the shelf, lugged steel ss frame with a nice fork crown, quill stem, 120 rear spacing, and no unwanted shifter bosses etc that has room for real fenders and tires larger than 25c. If I could afford it I might prefer a bike with tire clearance and geometry closer to a rodeo, vertical rear dropouts, and an eccentric BB. But I am pretty sure that would have to be a custom so factoring in cost etc. I am quite happy with my SimpleOne. Closest production bike to my fixed gear ideal that I know of. Too bad it filled a vanishingly small niche market. On Saturday, November 23, 2013 10:43:09 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I'm guessing it's a pretty saturated market as well. 1,001 little fixie/SS retailers out there, with the Crosscheck being the king of that niche. None with lugs or the AMAZING angled rear fork-ends, but still hard to distinguish in that crowded marketplace. On 11/23/13, BSWP asht...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I am loving my 66cm orange QuickBeam. I have a DOS ENO freewheel on one side, and a fixed cog on the other. With JackBrowns and Nitto BullMoose bars, it brings smiles to all who see it, and to me especially when I ride it. But I also understand RBW's economics on this, it was an expensive frame, much the same price as a road frame with rear attachment point for a derailleur. Maybe there's a future frame coming that will have an attachment for shifting as well as semi-horizontal rear forks to allow for wheelbase adjustment. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?
Just got back from recycling two gallons of used motor oil... was not a pleasant load to carry! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/11016886936/ On 11/22/13, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Carried firewood down to the campsite on a bicycle tour... http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/10843623563/ On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 7:39:26 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote: Photo sent to me by a fellow Atlantis owner obviously bird lover. This is 40 lbs of birdseed and did not upset the bike's handling. While I didn't weigh the load nor take photos, I've had a stack of canvas tote bags on my Atlantis that was large enough to make getting on the bike difficult and most definitely upset the handling. Nice tidy pannier loads aside, what interesting things have people carried on their Rivendells? dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Did Cavemen Eat Yams?
Perry, There are amazingly compelling arguments for the modern disease epidemics we see with diabetes, Alzheimer's, obesity, and others, which the two resources I mention explore from very different perspectives. Respond to those rather than making cool aid accusations and we can talk. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:37:12 PM UTC-7, Perry wrote: Marlene Zuk is a fool but Sisson we should listen to? Patrick, I love you man, but step away from the cool aid. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Took the Hunq out for a ride today. I have to loose some weight and need to get out and ride more often. No more excuses.
Patrick, would you care to elaborate on which calorie rich satisfying foods you have found to be successful with weight loss. Thanks. Always looking for something different. Jennings On Friday, November 22, 2013 4:19:08 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Awesome! Here's a little secret: exercise has very little to do with weight while diet has much to do with it. Ride because you love it and have fun and you will ride more often. Eat calorie rich, satisfying foods and you will be full, stop sooner, be full longer, and stop needing snacks between meals. Great looking Hunqapillar! How long have you had it (or it had you?). Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, November 22, 2013 2:12:22 PM UTC-7, Jennings wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Blue Sam with close bartape match...
Smokey blue color, similar to the smokey Blue Sam color - but lighter. Closest match I could find so far. In some outdoor lighting it looks almost the same. I like matching bartapes. More fun to look at than black. One coat of shellac and ridden for about 3 weeks. Once in rain. Already starting to fade a little. Green Grips Evening Blue Cotton bartape- heavyweight version. If anyone knows of a closer match, please let me know. Thanks. http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/11016791525/in/set-72157633085407086 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Took the Hunq out for a ride today. I have to loose some weight and need to get out and ride more often. No more excuses.
Hey Jennings, I'm happy to, though we should perhaps take it off list because diet threads tend to go nuts. In short, I eat mostly following the diet laid out in the the Perfect Health Diet, www.perfecthealthdiet.com. On it I dropped from 280 to 190 (I'm 6'-2). The basic premise is that our bodies have two primary fuel modes: fat burning and fat storing. The body's switch for these modes is insulin, and oddly enough if we eat carbs and burn carbs as our primary fuel source, we are constantly in fat storing mode, converting carbs to fat. However, eat most calories from (healthy) fat, and your body switches to fat burning mode -- which requires eating far less often (I generally eat one meal a day) and without feeling hungry, even as you loose weight. I can tell you more off list if you are interested. lamontg...@mac.com. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:31:34 PM UTC-7, Jennings wrote: Patrick, would you care to elaborate on which calorie rich satisfying foods you have found to be successful with weight loss. Thanks. Always looking for something different. Jennings On Friday, November 22, 2013 4:19:08 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Awesome! Here's a little secret: exercise has very little to do with weight while diet has much to do with it. Ride because you love it and have fun and you will ride more often. Eat calorie rich, satisfying foods and you will be full, stop sooner, be full longer, and stop needing snacks between meals. Great looking Hunqapillar! How long have you had it (or it had you?). Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, November 22, 2013 2:12:22 PM UTC-7, Jennings wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Did Cavemen Eat Yams?
My takeaway is the evolved to argument is emotionally compelling because it appeals to this idea of human nature, but their take was that evolutionary fitness is rather concerned with the first few decades, that once we're past child rearing age, it's just frosting (pardon the sweet pun). I loved the last quote. I think the fallacy exposed here is, eating a hunter-gatherer diet implies fitness, doesn't imply that eating something outside the diet doesn't imply fitness. N P, -N ! -P. Anyway, I don't see what the fuss is all about (this one particular article anyway). Type II diabetes is basically a family member at this point so if I can avoid getting fat as I get older *and* avoid all the complications, sign me up. On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Perry, There are amazingly compelling arguments for the modern disease epidemics we see with diabetes, Alzheimer's, obesity, and others, which the two resources I mention explore from very different perspectives. Respond to those rather than making cool aid accusations and we can talk. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:37:12 PM UTC-7, Perry wrote: Marlene Zuk is a fool but Sisson we should listen to? Patrick, I love you man, but step away from the cool aid. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Did Cavemen Eat Yams?
An alert reader pointed out it appears I may thing those diseases are a good thing. Here's what my sentence should read: There are amazingly compelling arguments for the modern disease epidemics we see with diabetes, Alzheimer's, obesity, and others being caused by a diet that leaves us in fat storing mode rather than mostly in fat burning mode, which the two resources I mention explore from very different perspectives. Hopefully that clarifies my position that diabetes, Alzheimer's, and obesity are not good things. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:17:56 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Perry, There are amazingly compelling arguments for the modern disease epidemics we see with diabetes, Alzheimer's, obesity, and others, which the two resources I mention explore from very different perspectives. Respond to those rather than making cool aid accusations and we can talk. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:37:12 PM UTC-7, Perry wrote: Marlene Zuk is a fool but Sisson we should listen to? Patrick, I love you man, but step away from the cool aid. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Did Cavemen Eat Yams?
Patrick, I know. I've read them. I remain utterly unconvinced. But I won't debate yet again. I'm not going down that rabbit hole one more time. • Perry On Nov 23, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Perry, There are amazingly compelling arguments for the modern disease epidemics we see with diabetes, Alzheimer's, obesity, and others, which the two resources I mention explore from very different perspectives. Respond to those rather than making cool aid accusations and we can talk. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:37:12 PM UTC-7, Perry wrote: Marlene Zuk is a fool but Sisson we should listen to? Patrick, I love you man, but step away from the cool aid. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/TIzfVoxVa9Q/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?
Having done a lot of riding on fixed gears (on my Quickbeam, among other bikes) up to and including double centuries and PBP, I can say that a fixie or SS bike is not emasculated. It's harder to do those events on a bike that doesn't shift and doesn't coast, and it's certainly not emasculating to ride one. I enjoy both types of bikes (fixed and gearly), and I prefer to see a fixie as a bike distilled to its essence and stripped of everything unrelated to the simple task of pedaling and moving forward. My two cents' worth. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy On Nov 23, 2013, at 7:26 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, I think you did a great job of answering your own question, with the final business answer plugged in by Bill. For me it was always Why QB/SO? Of course I have 8-degree grades to get to my house. Kind of an aside, but it always makes me sizzle when I see a once fine steel road bike emasculated to a single (though always with nice paint) sitting in the obscure corner of a bike shop. On Friday, November 22, 2013 10:27:57 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: another layer of economics is that they have to pay for a lot of frames at once. whenever they have a load of betty foys or hillbornes coming in they have to lay out like $30k. perhaps the cumulative demand for them cant justify that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Did Cavemen Eat Yams?
That's fine, Perry. I'm not here to convince you. But there is so much benefit from activating our bodies to be fat burning rather than fat storing. Additionally most diet advice (including what we learned as kids) out there fails to understand that eating less fat actually makes us fatter and increases our chances for getting those very preventable diseases. I'll take fat burning mode over sugar burning mode every time -- that I felt I should respond to the scientific response that utterly misses the point, and offer an alternative to the traditional food pyramid (which appears to contribute to much of our current health epidemic). With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:47:03 PM UTC-7, Perry wrote: Patrick, I know. I've read them. I remain utterly unconvinced. But I won't debate yet again. I'm not going down that rabbit hole one more time. • Perry On Nov 23, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: Perry, There are amazingly compelling arguments for the modern disease epidemics we see with diabetes, Alzheimer's, obesity, and others, which the two resources I mention explore from very different perspectives. Respond to those rather than making cool aid accusations and we can talk. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:37:12 PM UTC-7, Perry wrote: Marlene Zuk is a fool but Sisson we should listen to? Patrick, I love you man, but step away from the cool aid. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/TIzfVoxVa9Q/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?
I would love a Rivendell single speed bike, but I live in rolling terrain and it is hard enough for me getting up the hills. But I am sure it takes you to a whole other level of exhilaration riding a one-geared-no-shifters bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] You Know You're Addicted to Rivendell When . . .
You stay up until 1am, on a weeknight, to read every single word of the catalogue. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: You Know You're Addicted to Rivendell When . . .
The first step toward recovery is recognizing you have a problem. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:08:38 PM UTC-7, Evan wrote: You stay up until 1am, on a weeknight, to read every single word of the catalogue. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Did Cavemen Eat Yams?
made me laugh. On Nov 23, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Look, the diet itself is sound; it’s the philosophy that’s bullshit. Eat what you want. Just leave the damn cavemen out of it.” On 11/23/2013 04:04 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: Sigh. Then it's a bunch of scientists making fools of themselves, much the same as Marlene Zuk did earlier this year. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/is-it-all-just-a-paleofantasy/#axzz2lVLlYgZq, setting up strawmen and knocking them down. I'd recommend for anyone interest in what the topic in general read The Story of the Human Body by Daniel E. Lieberman, an evolutionary biologist. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, November 23, 2013 1:21:33 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: More about the Paleo Diet: http://mumanu.wordpress.com/2013/11/06/archaeologists-officially-declare-collective-sigh-over-paleo-diet/ From the article: “Nearly every food item you currently eat today has been modified from its ancestral form, typically in a drastic way, ” he began. “The notion that we have not yet adapted to eat wheat, yet we have had sufficient time to adapt to kale or lentils is ridiculous. In fact, for most practitioners of the Paleo Diet, who are typically westerners, the majority of the food they consume has been available to their gene pool for less than five centuries. Tomatoes, peppers, squash, potatoes, avocados, pecans, cashews, and blueberries are all New World crops, and have only been on the dinner table of African and Eurasian populations for probably 10 generations of their evolutionary history. Europeans have been eating grain for the last 10,000 years; we’ve been eating sweet potatoes for less than 500. Yet the human body has seemingly adapted perfectly well to yams, let alone pineapple and sunflower seeds.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Did Cavemen Eat Yams?
Oh gosh, isn't this the RBW-owners-bunch? We're all about cool aid. On Nov 23, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Perry bob...@gmail.com wrote: Marlene Zuk is a fool but Sisson we should listen to? Patrick, I love you man, but step away from the cool aid. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Did Cavemen Eat Yams?
Obesity and diabetes are not common in many parts of the world where people eat large quantities of tubers. These diseases are common in the United States and other countries where people eat large quantities of highly processed corn starch and animals kept in confined feeding lots and fed copious amounts of refined grain full of antibiotics and other drugs. And of course while potatoes are native to the Americas there are similar edible roots that quite clearly were part of human diets in Africa, Europe and Asia going back to prehistorical times. Also, potato products were eaten by Native Americans who by all accounts were thin and quite healthy before the Europeans brought them smallpox, etc. Heck, keep in mind pre-Europer Native Americans had active trade and interaction across a rugged continent that did not have horses or other beasts of burden that could be ridden or pull heavy loads. Looking at the data and history, I personally think it best to avoid processed foods but will gladly eat an organic sweet potato with no butter or margarine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?
I dunno, they're just heavily lined gloves with long extensions that keep wind from blowing up your sleeve. I didn't even buy them...got them as a trade for gloves lost, at the ferry lost found. Not bike-specific gloves. I don't think winter gloves have to be bike specific...at least not for utility riding. I've got a pair of ski mittens if it gets super cold. Bought 'em in Vermont years ago. Joe On Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:58:41 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: Looking for gloves and thought I would see what you all use. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?
mittens!trigger mittens work well too for brakes etc. but yeah, mittens. I'll oftentimes put multiple layers of mittens on depending on how cold it is. On Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:58:41 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: Looking for gloves and thought I would see what you all use. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: You Know You're Addicted to Rivendell When . . .
You're a teacher and along with the posters of The Constitution and Declaration of Independence that adorn your walls is a HUNQAPILLAR poster that the students love. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?
I wear wool gloves. Ibex wool from about 35F - 50F http://www.amazon.com/Ibex-Outdoor-Clothing-Knitty-Gritty/dp/B0041MVDMM Wool gloves with Thinsulate 35 http://www.sierratradingpost.com/jacob-ash-ecoraggs-ragg-wool-gloves-insulated-for-men~p~2805a/ Both are pretty low priced. On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Looking for gloves and thought I would see what you all use. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: You Know You're Addicted to Rivendell When . . .
I've got one in my office. On Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:56:33 PM UTC-5, fulf wrote: You're a teacher and along with the posters of The Constitution and Declaration of Independence that adorn your walls is a HUNQAPILLAR poster that the students love. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Did Cavemen Eat Yams?
For anyone interested in completing the transition to full Paleo, I'd be happy to take over any homes, automobiles, clothing, bikes or computers with which you might otherwise be burdened. Besides, you'll be dead 18 years ago anyway. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: You Know You're Addicted to Rivendell When . . .
On Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:09:56 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: The first step toward recovery is recognizing you have a problem. Grin. I'd say I'm at the pre-contemplation stage which is defined as: Avoidance. That is, not seeing a problem behavior or not considering change. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?
After a couple of soggy commutes this week, I have only one thing to say . . . SPLATS! Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?
Eric, I was just talking about taking a nice road bike and relegating it to the corner of the bike shop, as if this is the purpose of steel frames. On Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:52:25 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote: Having done a lot of riding on fixed gears (on my Quickbeam, among other bikes) up to and including double centuries and PBP, I can say that a fixie or SS bike is not emasculated. It's harder to do those events on a bike that doesn't shift and doesn't coast, and it's certainly not emasculating to ride one. I enjoy both types of bikes (fixed and gearly), and I prefer to see a fixie as a bike distilled to its essence and stripped of everything unrelated to the simple task of pedaling and moving forward. My two cents' worth. --Eric campyo...@me.com javascript: www.campyonly.comhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.campyonly.comsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGWHFpsrrELFm5mTD4H4YAX5of0TQ www.wheelsnorth.orghttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wheelsnorth.orgsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNF1p3YagKI8wBzDh71Qz30P6AYlug Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.comhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fcampyonlyguy.blogspot.comsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFXkdT_8Dtp4BYW_nlH4W7LeBjLuw Twitter: @campyonlyguy On Nov 23, 2013, at 7:26 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Chris, I think you did a great job of answering your own question, with the final business answer plugged in by Bill. For me it was always Why QB/SO? Of course I have 8-degree grades to get to my house. Kind of an aside, but it always makes me sizzle when I see a once fine steel road bike emasculated to a single (though always with nice paint) sitting in the obscure corner of a bike shop. On Friday, November 22, 2013 10:27:57 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: another layer of economics is that they have to pay for a lot of frames at once. whenever they have a load of betty foys or hillbornes coming in they have to lay out like $30k. perhaps the cumulative demand for them cant justify that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?
If I might ask, we're those jack browns blue or green? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: You Know You're Addicted to Rivendell When . . .
When you've got more than one of these sorts of photos in your collection... http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/8058482320/in/set-72157631702162963/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4171099414/in/set-72157622964863214/ Aloha! Bob On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:09:56 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: The first step toward recovery is recognizing you have a problem. Grin. I'd say I'm at the pre-contemplation stage which is defined as: Avoidance. That is, not seeing a problem behavior or not considering change. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: You Know You're Addicted to Rivendell When . . .
ha On 11/23/13, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: When you've got more than one of these sorts of photos in your collection... http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/8058482320/in/set-72157631702162963/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4171099414/in/set-72157622964863214/ Aloha! Bob On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:09:56 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: The first step toward recovery is recognizing you have a problem. Grin. I'd say I'm at the pre-contemplation stage which is defined as: Avoidance. That is, not seeing a problem behavior or not considering change. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] OT but brings a tear to my eye
Redemption http://pvcycling.wordpress.com/2013/11/19/redemption/ With best regards Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: You Know You're Addicted to Rivendell When . . .
I love Brown. On Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:54:08 PM UTC-8, Statrixbob wrote: When you've got more than one of these sorts of photos in your collection... http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/8058482320/in/set-72157631702162963/http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fmgps-bob%2F8058482320%2Fin%2Fset-72157631702162963%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNE6iR0cZpYkGBoYVJfiK5IVnCfXGg http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4171099414/in/set-72157622964863214/http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fmgps-bob%2F4171099414%2Fin%2Fset-72157622964863214%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNHNxFPV76F8h_b43d-HNa8cukG9pQ Aloha! Bob On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Mike mjaw...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: On Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:09:56 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: The first step toward recovery is recognizing you have a problem. Grin. I'd say I'm at the pre-contemplation stage which is defined as: Avoidance. That is, not seeing a problem behavior or not considering change. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfhar...@gmail.com javascript: statrix.comhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fstatrix.comsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNEz2pTTbH9Lca6vWeJ0G9RPBx8kAQ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: You Know You're Addicted to Rivendell When . . .
Is it an addiction, or merely an obsession? dougP On Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:08:38 PM UTC-8, Evan wrote: You stay up until 1am, on a weeknight, to read every single word of the catalogue. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?
Today on a 208k brevet with temperatures hovering in the mid-30s and intermittent light rain I used Pearl Izumi lobster gloves with smartwool liners and was pleased. The other Rivendell owner on the brevet is Rapha to the max. I don't think he has much cycling clothing that doesn't say Rapha on it. Not that there's anything wrong with that ;) On Nov 23, 2013 1:58 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Looking for gloves and thought I would see what you all use. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
