[RBW] Re: Bike and Hatchet First Aid
My new favorite single first aid kit item: http://www.target.com/p/adventure-medical-kits-quikclot-sport-50-g/-/A-13945480?ref=tgt_adv_XSG10001AFID=google_pla_dfLNM=13945480CPNG=Health+Beautykpid=13945480LID=17pgsci_src=17588969ci_sku=13945480kpid=13945480gclid=CKaIrNiluMECFbPm7AodYi0A8g This is a wound care game changer, once limited to military and medical use, now in public sale forms. Lots of brands and forms out there. Stop nasty wounds' bleeding before the loss is concerning, not a substitute for sutures. Just because you checked off stop the bleeding doesn't mean the chores are over. For the rides beyond the commute and range of rapid higher level care arrival: Bleeding stopped, but now you're looking at a wound (particularly cuts) that requires more work, but you need to stabilize it for transport, or dare say to ride out as is: http://www.nexcare.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/NANexcare/Nexcare/ProductCat/~/Steri-Strip-Skin-Closure?N=4326+3294631226rt=rud Butterfly bandage concept gets its PhD. Used for much more than description describes, replaced a super glue technique by which I once swore. Longest possible, real world wounds are never clean and dry, more often you need the extra to reach dry, intact surfaces to adhere. Obviously some gauze 2x2s and 4x4s, but my top dressing closure favorite is: http://www.vitalitymedical.com/coban-self-adherent-wrap.html?utm_source=googleutm_medium=baseutm_campaign=productsfeed_special=googlegclid=CJ3DvLumuMECFTMQ7AodencAqA Beats tape by miles and since its always knees, elbows (bendy parts) that get torn up first in a bike wreck. It closes up and holds your wound dressing application so that it is rideable. Horse people, you know this as Vetwrap. For when the incident result will need more than a bandage: http://www.sammedical.com/products/sam-splint/ Useful to support for ortho injuries from a sprain to fracture. Takes little space, weighs less, beats taking your hatchet into the woodlands to harvest natural splinting for which you probably don't have binding materials unless you start tearing your jersey into strips. These few things so very limit the number of items to have for immediate care. Gloves and alcohol wipes for sure, and if you're likely to be afar, some packaged cleansing agent-soaked gauze to get mother nature and road debris out of any wound you hope to close. You're not sterile out there, so a water bottle to do a quick pressure wash of debris before antiseptic wiping is awesome (alcohol wipe the nozzle). Think ahead if you pack this stuff, if you don't feel like they offer a natural series of steps to the sort of injuries you'll expect, they'll do no one any good. Mentally rehearsing your response to wounds given the kit you've assembled will help. Step one is always a silent I can do this. This has been true in my Scouting, military, and medical situations. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Saturday, October 18, 2014 10:52:33 AM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Since early August I've had or have been close to others with some bad luck on the bike and using a hatchet... I've been over the handlebars twice and then this weekend a good friend put one of my axes (fiskars x15) into his knee while splitting wood. All's well in each case thank goodness though two out of the incidents involved the emergency room and the Axe wound required an ambulance. Prevention of these incidents is definitely worth discussion and I've given each allot of thought in that regards but the recent issue with the Axe really has me thinking hard about my first aid kit for the woods and while on the bike... We were lucky to have several level headed people (couple of eagle scouts!) And the materials to improvise a tourniquet and compression bandage. So as I've been pouring over trauma kits for my truck and campsite I also started thinking that as a nearly every day commuter I should have some kit with me on the bike just as I have repair tools for the bike. The things I'm thinking of so far include; -wound cleaner, alcohol wipes? -antibiotic ointment -sterile gauze bandages (typical road rash size) -conforming wrap or athletic wrap or medical tape -triangle bandage -small assortment of band aids -rubber gloves Would the following be overkill; -CAT style tourniquet -quick clot sponge or bandage -'Israeli' style compression bandage -trauma shears The scenario for this kit is urban commuting with professional emergency responce time of 10 min or less, cell service at all times and the level of training I have is relatively basic. (Scout and basic military level). Oh and it needs to fit in either a large saddle wedge, frame bag or other such unobtrusive, stays on bike type location. What, if anything, do you guys include in your on bike kit? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and
Re: [RBW] Winter Riding Pants
sorry, no time to tarry gotta go is 62 degrees and dry this morning with a projected high of 76. On Saturday, October 18, 2014 9:47:25 PM UTC-5, Dan A wrote: I second the vote for Foxwear. Lou makes great stuff with custom sizing at very reasonable prices. Dan Abelson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
Totally agree with that observation. But I wasn't biking in 1994, so am unable to speak from experience there. Wonder how much the 29er concept also influenced the bikes? As to the QBP brands, I'm not sure. From what I have read, they are pretty indepdent of each other. As in they don't all sit around and decide who is going to develop what type of bike. Not even sure they communicate that much while working. From photos I've seen they all have different office areas. Definitely run by distinct groups of people. With individual marketing concepts. For the record, I like most of the Surly marketing, even though I don't have a beard, tattoos or drink adult beverages under bridges or next to barrel fires. Mainly because it is different. And that is something I can identify with. Different. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 9:44 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I think the growth and acceptance of large tire sizes definitely happened on Grant's/Rivendell's watch and he can humbly take the majority of credit for it. He obviously didn't invent the concept of a demi-ballon tire, and others were working in tandem (Jan, Surly, etc), but in modern mainstream cycling, the concept was lost. Think about it: Prior to 1994, what was considered a large road bike (not touring) tire was 28mm. That grew to 33.3mm, and now it's a full 42mm! There are plenty of MCRBs that still barely fit a 28, but people don't question larger tires. One of my local buddies who is fully into the local carbon crit scene was complaining how the fenders on his commuter couldn't fit his new 35mm Kojaks. The times they have a' changed! Alt topic: Did not know that about All City being a QBP brand. Anybody know how distinct and the level of independence the various QBP marques have? On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: A couple of days ago, someone asked what type of Dutch bike my Sam Hillborne was. He was quite serious and shocked when I informed him the bike was modern and designed in California. This was actually the first time I'd been on a trip up to Grand Marais, MN with a Rivendell. Previous trips had been with either a Surly or Salsa. Oh, and don't forget that All City bikes is also a QBP product. Sort of their own niche. And in seeing the numbers of them around here, replacing the Surly Cross Check as the standard bike of the Twin Cities. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: You can always remove decals... What kind of bike is that? Steel ? Just in case some folks didn't know, Surly is a brand (like Salsa now, among others) owned by QBP (Quality Bicycle Products) which is the largest wholesaler of bike parts accessories within the US. That means that if you are a QBP dealer (which most shops are), you can stock Surly bikes. For a smaller dealer, this means that you can offer models without having the necessarily pre-order a container load. This a good thing for independent dealers and good thing for folks who have wanted options from what the brand-intensive shops stock. They focused on an underserved (heck, at the time _UN_served) part of the market and have executed well for a while now. - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
[RBW] Re: OK to mix and match front racks/decalers/bags?
Not entirely true. VO makes a fitting for threaded setups as well: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-decaleur-kits.html If you have a threaded steerer, your choices are Berthoud or Nitto/Grand Bois, and if the latter, then you also need the Grand Bois stem. If you have threadless, your choices are VO or the modified Berthoud available from Boulder. On Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:21:53 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: I need to get a front rack. But I was wondering, since I am going to use it with a front bag, do I need to have everything a matching set? I have heard someone say it is best to match the components, like either get all VO, or all Berthoud, etc. I am guessing mixing and matching is fine but didn't know if there is something I am missing. Thanks for any info. Please feel free to let me know what set up you use and pics are always welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Winter Riding Pants
I concur. -JimD (in sunny Santa Clara, Ca.) On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:56 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: When it drops below 60F, I stay inside! Brrr On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: High of 45 IS indian summer. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
A few months back I was reflecting on some of these things and Riv's influence in a piece I wrote that some might find worth a read. It's kind of amazing to think it's been so long since I first got my first Bstone and then my late 90s era AllRounder. I've seen quite the evolution over the years in the industry and been writing about it in one way or the other for (gasp) 9 years now. Crazy. My only bstone is now a resurrectio: http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2014/07/introducing-reno-rambler-resurrectio.html?q=rivendell http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2014/07/rivendell-bicycle-workshas-vindication.html?q=rivendell Happy Sunday and hope everyone gets out for a ride on this fine fall day! Addison Wilhite, M.A. Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology http://www.washoeschools.net/aact *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”* Educator: Professional Portfolio http://addisonwilhite.blogspot.com/ Blogger: Reno Rambler http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/ Bicycle Advocate: Regional Transportation Commission, Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory Committee http://www.rtcwashoe.com/public-transportation-22-124.html On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: Totally agree with that observation. But I wasn't biking in 1994, so am unable to speak from experience there. Wonder how much the 29er concept also influenced the bikes? As to the QBP brands, I'm not sure. From what I have read, they are pretty indepdent of each other. As in they don't all sit around and decide who is going to develop what type of bike. Not even sure they communicate that much while working. From photos I've seen they all have different office areas. Definitely run by distinct groups of people. With individual marketing concepts. For the record, I like most of the Surly marketing, even though I don't have a beard, tattoos or drink adult beverages under bridges or next to barrel fires. Mainly because it is different. And that is something I can identify with. Different. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 9:44 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I think the growth and acceptance of large tire sizes definitely happened on Grant's/Rivendell's watch and he can humbly take the majority of credit for it. He obviously didn't invent the concept of a demi-ballon tire, and others were working in tandem (Jan, Surly, etc), but in modern mainstream cycling, the concept was lost. Think about it: Prior to 1994, what was considered a large road bike (not touring) tire was 28mm. That grew to 33.3mm, and now it's a full 42mm! There are plenty of MCRBs that still barely fit a 28, but people don't question larger tires. One of my local buddies who is fully into the local carbon crit scene was complaining how the fenders on his commuter couldn't fit his new 35mm Kojaks. The times they have a' changed! Alt topic: Did not know that about All City being a QBP brand. Anybody know how distinct and the level of independence the various QBP marques have? On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: A couple of days ago, someone asked what type of Dutch bike my Sam Hillborne was. He was quite serious and shocked when I informed him the bike was modern and designed in California. This was actually the first time I'd been on a trip up to Grand Marais, MN with a Rivendell. Previous trips had been with either a Surly or Salsa. Oh, and don't forget that All City bikes is also a QBP product. Sort of their own niche. And in seeing the numbers of them around here, replacing the Surly Cross Check as the standard bike of the Twin Cities. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: You can always remove decals... What kind of bike is that? Steel ? Just in case some folks didn't know, Surly is a brand (like Salsa now, among others) owned by QBP (Quality Bicycle Products) which is the largest wholesaler of bike parts accessories within the US. That means that if you are a QBP dealer (which most shops are), you can stock Surly bikes. For a smaller dealer, this means that you can offer models without having the necessarily pre-order a container load. This a good thing for independent dealers and good thing for folks who have wanted options from what the brand-intensive shops stock. They focused on an underserved (heck, at the time _UN_served) part of the market and have executed well for a while now. - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit
Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
Addison, Love the post. I have one of the tee shirts in size large in pretty good/ great shape if you are interested. Let me know if you are interested. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quick Photo Set for Kelso - San Francisco ride
Excellent! Do you have a map of the route you traveled that you would share? Andy On Saturday, October 18, 2014 9:59:36 PM UTC-7, Ty Graham wrote: Hi, Here's a quick photo set from my 925 mile trip ending this last week. On my Atlantis. I'm still working on a blog post, but this can fill the gaps. I moteled it the whole way, so had a lighter load than most of the folks I ran into. Everything fit into my Sackville Large and Acorn Rando front. https://www.flickr.com/photos/13233995@N08/sets/72157648434202048/ More later. Ty Graham Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Winter Riding Pants
I dissent. I've never lived anywhere one could do that and ride either side of July. On Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:37:54 AM UTC-4, JimD wrote: I concur. -JimD (in sunny Santa Clara, Ca.) On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:56 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: When it drops below 60F, I stay inside! Brrr On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com javascript: wrote: High of 45 IS indian summer. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Clem on the Blug
The Barlow pass sure seems like an excellent tire, but being narrower it's a change in the wrong direction. Bigger bikes probably are being used by heavier people which needs wider tires, not taller. There are plenty of wide off-road 650b tires available, just as good a selection as in 700c, and the finest, widest road tires as well too, so 650b should be the best choice for a bigger do-it-all bike. For a big mtb bike, 700c/29 could be a good choice because you don't care for road tires then. To me it looks like the choice for a 700c wheel for the biggest Clem frame is only based on subjective esthetics and not on function. Johan Larsson, Sweden On Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:20:09 AM UTC+2, EricP wrote: I was not as thrilled with the Compass 26x1.75 on my Long Haul Trucker as the Schwalbe Kojak tires they replaced. They are better than Big Apples. Not saying they are bad tires, they're not bad. Quite good. My personal preference is for something even wider. Especially on that bike. As to the Clem, I'd really like the 59cm to stay 700C. That way I have a choice of skinny tires (Compass Barlow Pass 38mm) or go wide such as most 29er 50mm or 60mm tires. It's getting to the point where 38mm are almost too skinny except for smooth roads. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Someone else (or perhaps Eric on an earlier occasion) opined the same, which makes me sit up because I have been toying with the thought of seeing whether the 559X1.5s might not fit under the crown of my Riv customs. Can anyone confirm or, in the event, describe other experience? After all, there is the 32 mm 559 Kojak, which is a pretty darn nice tire, and Panracer still has the 559 Pasela in 1.5 for half the Compass's price. ... Or are the 559 Paselas only in Tourguard nowadays? On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Eric Daume eric...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Except for the Barlow Pass. And in a bit of an apples to oranges comparison, I didn't think my 26 Compass tires were any better than my (much, much cheaper) 700 x 35 Paselas. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Green Hilsen/Ramb on NSP Saturday?
So, between Saturday AM chores and having to be at a friend's mother's memorial in the early afternoon, I did manage a quick pavement/trail loop on the Quickbeam. While powering home, zipped past a rider on a green Riv (well, definitely Riv-looking) and we had a moment of Hey!...Your bike's COOL! Normally, I would have turned tail and chased him down, but since I was already two-reminder-texts past my I'll-be-home-by time, it was not in the cards. Anyway - group denizen? If so, sorry I couldn't take the time to say hey! - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] thump thump of supple tires
I would bet it's a seating issue. I've had the same thump/squeak thing going on and unseating and reseating the tire fixed it. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: OK to mix and match front racks/decalers/bags?
On 10/19/2014 08:53 AM, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: Not entirely true. VO makes a fitting for threaded setups as well: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-decaleur-kits.html They certainly used to have one for threaded, but that was discontinued some time ago. On the page you cite I see only the spacer mounts for threadless, in both 1 and 1 1/8. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Seat post clamp bolt snapped
I put 36 hard miles on my Moser this morning, and my Super Record quill/clamp setup worked - the seat post didn't budge - I even climbed a couple of the last hills sitting down. On Monday, October 13, 2014 11:49:12 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: I solved my slipping seatpost on my Moser with a Super Record expander seatpost - clamps internally like a quill stem - add that with the lug binder bolt and it snugged up nicely. I sniped mine on ebay for $70, which was a good price, and it was also very nice condition. The problem with Super Record posts, they're not very tall, but perfect for my tall frame need. American Classic at one time made a taller expander seatpost. It's kind of a neat idea - you'd think more might offer them, especially Nitto. On Monday, October 13, 2014 11:14:05 AM UTC-5, jay hartman wrote: To get the bolt out, go to a auto parts store or the like and buy yourself an easy out tool. You will have to drill a small hole in the end of the broken bolt. Then insert the tool and turn counter clockwise. It should come right out. Secondly, get yourself some good calipers and measure the seat post. It could be slightly undersized which is allowing it to slip. Or the seat tube is slightly oversized, but that is harder to measure. Either way, you shouldn't have to torque that hard to keep your seat post from slipping. Jay Hartman. On Monday, October 13, 2014, DS davec...@gmail.com wrote: I emailed brian @ riv who helped put this Hunq together, but while I wait for a response I thought I'd swing this by the RBW group since I'm generally not very mechanically inclined (I learn by you tube videos). 1. Been having major issues with seat post slippage on the Hunq. Every time I think I get the seat post clamp (which is part of the frame) as tight as I can get it, within 30 minutes of riding it has slipped a good inch, maybe more. I've never had this issue on a bike before, how do you address this? More grease or beeswax on the seat post? Different bolt? Quick release? Would having a medium sackville with all my camping gear be weighing it down more and causing this? 2. I stripped the seat post bolt (the one in the seat post clamp, not the saddle rails), so decided to take the whole bolt out and bring it to a LBS or hardware store to get a replacement one (it stripped just enough that i could no longer tighten it, but I could still loosen it). Upon turning it counter clockwise to get it out, the bolt head snapped right off. Now the rest of the bolt is stuck in the clamp (again, the clamp is part of the frame). So, how does one get the bolt out? Both ends are buried in the housing that is inside the clamp braze ons (is that the right terminogoy here? Is this something an LBS would have the tools to do? Or do I need to find a mechanic who knows how to drill a hole through the center of the bolt and extract it out that way? Is there an easier way? Anything to consider so I don't mess up the frame? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: OK to mix and match front racks/decalers/bags?
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 10/19/2014 08:53 AM, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: Not entirely true. VO makes a fitting for threaded setups as well: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-decaleur-kits.html They certainly used to have one for threaded, but that was discontinued some time ago. On the page you cite I see only the spacer mounts for threadless, in both 1 and 1 1/8. Steve, you must be thinking of the old decaleu https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7158/6785541485_b5d478558b_z.jpgr they made that hung from the nut on the back of the stem camp. The 1 spacer mount will work on threadless or threaded, as long as there's a spacer to replace. How well it works, I'm not sure. In a threadless stack they can rotate if the bag isn't pretty firmly attached to the rack already. There's a lot more compression under a threaded locknut. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 10/19/2014 08:53 AM, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: Not entirely true. VO makes a fitting for threaded setups as well: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-decaleur-kits.html They certainly used to have one for threaded, but that was discontinued some time ago. On the page you cite I see only the spacer mounts for threadless, in both 1 and 1 1/8. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] I saw your flat bar Roadeo on Fourth Street Berkeley yesterday
Flat bar Roadeo https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/14926186514/in/photostream/ I think this one was featured in the blug recently. A real looker. I didn't touch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: thump thump of supple tires
The thump is the hop and the hop is the thump. If it's your tire that has a hop in it, it will hop on any rim. Another way to test it is mark the hop in some way. Mark the sidewall of the tire at the hop and put a piece of tape on the rim at the hop. Then remove the tire and re install it 90 degrees off. Is there a hop? Is it at the same mark on the tire? Is it at the same mark on the rim? Neither. Each result points to a different cause. I'm sure you'll figure it out. I would not expect it to go away on its own. On Saturday, October 18, 2014 8:44:04 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote: Allright group, I have an inquiry regarding a thump-thump Ive experienced pretty much only with supple( 120tpi) tires and this seems like the place to get some possible answers. Im usually not nitpicky, but this is VERY noticeable. Every variable is the same: Tubes, tire pressure, rim, riding area, the only change is from a stoutish tire to a ' supple tire'. I can noticeably see a hop in the tires through rotation. Im 99.8% sure the tires are seated correctly, I can see an even line just above the rim all the way around. the only thing I can think of is that the irregularities of the tube are more pronounced due to the thinner walls of the supple tire? That the sidewall/ overall stoutness of a heavier tire dont allow those irregularities to show up? Anyone have experience with this? Does it go away with more miles Thoughts? And thank you in advance!!-Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: I saw your flat bar Roadeo on Fourth Street Berkeley yesterday
OOOPS! maybe this? Really https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/15379391629/in/photostream/ On Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:26:24 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Flat bar Roadeo https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/14926186514/in/photostream/ I think this one was featured in the blug recently. A real looker. I didn't touch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quick Photo Set for Kelso - San Francisco ride
looks like a great trip. The Pacific Coast is such a beautiful place to ride. ~mike Carlsbad Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
as far as I know... the demi balloon tire resurgence started in Japan with some die-hard French Cyclo-touring folks who got the Hetre made. Jan imported them to the US and started riding that kind of bike. Certainly Grant was an influence in parallel for fat tired bikes in today's market, and deserves some credit. Also, many road bikes in the 70's and 80's had room for 32-35mm tires. Raleigh and Trek come to mind. There does appear to be a boom in that market today, but it's still a tiny fly on a donkey's hind end in total bike sales. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quick Photo Set for Kelso - San Francisco ride
Great looking trip, Ty! Than you for the vicarious coastal ride. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I saw your flat bar Roadeo on Fourth Street Berkeley yesterday
That's pretty casually locked for such an expensive bike. On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: OOOPS! maybe this? Really https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/15379391629/in/photostream/ On Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:26:24 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Flat bar Roadeo https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/14926186514/in/photostream/ I think this one was featured in the blug recently. A real looker. I didn't touch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I saw your flat bar Roadeo on Fourth Street Berkeley yesterday
Not necessarily. Owner could be buying an apple-apricot muffin, staring at the bike the whole time. Such muffins from the Cheeseboard are worth the risk. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: That's pretty casually locked for such an expensive bike. On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: OOOPS! maybe this? Really On Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:26:24 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Flat bar Roadeo I think this one was featured in the blug recently. A real looker. I didn't touch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: OK to mix and match front racks/decalers/bags?
Answer: It works pretty damned well. It's on my bike. I *do* wish that it was keyed in back, so that rotation was impossible, but since I keep the lock nut tight, it works quite well. I've hauled some very large loads in various handlebar bags. Note that rotation is somewhat less of an issue if the bag is also secured via the front rack's tombstone, as it is in most (but not all) cases. Some bags are not secured other than by the decaleur, some are strapped under the front rack rather than at the back with the tombstone, so YMMV. I would also point out that the VO mount is *thin*--maybe 2mm or so in thickness. At least this is true for the 1 decaleur, which looks to be the operating parts welded to a washer. Ergo, you don't really need spacer space to install it. Think washer replacement. I was initially worried about rotation and fragility. It's doing fine after two years. Of course, it's not threaded-specific, which is to say that it will work if you have a 1 headset, threaded *or* threadless. Likewise the 1-1/8 version. On Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:03:02 PM UTC-4, joe b. wrote: On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com javascript: wrote: On 10/19/2014 08:53 AM, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: Not entirely true. VO makes a fitting for threaded setups as well: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-decaleur-kits.html They certainly used to have one for threaded, but that was discontinued some time ago. On the page you cite I see only the spacer mounts for threadless, in both 1 and 1 1/8. Steve, you must be thinking of the old decaleu https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7158/6785541485_b5d478558b_z.jpgr they made that hung from the nut on the back of the stem camp. The 1 spacer mount will work on threadless or threaded, as long as there's a spacer to replace. How well it works, I'm not sure. In a threadless stack they can rotate if the bag isn't pretty firmly attached to the rack already. There's a lot more compression under a threaded locknut. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com javascript: wrote: On 10/19/2014 08:53 AM, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: Not entirely true. VO makes a fitting for threaded setups as well: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-decaleur-kits.html They certainly used to have one for threaded, but that was discontinued some time ago. On the page you cite I see only the spacer mounts for threadless, in both 1 and 1 1/8. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
On 10/19/2014 03:08 PM, Mike Schiller wrote: as far as I know... the demi balloon tire resurgence started in Japan with some die-hard French Cyclo-touring folks who got the Hetre made. Jan imported them to the US and started riding that kind of bike. Certainly Grant was an influence in parallel for fat tired bikes in today's market, and deserves some credit. Let's not forget the Saluki: the first 650B bike to be sold in the US since the 1980s. Also, many road bikes in the 70's and 80's had room for 32-35mm tires. Raleigh and Trek come to mind. There does appear to be a boom in that market today, but it's still a tiny fly on a donkey's hind end in total bike sales. Is that really true? What percentage of the total bike market is made up of narrow-tired road racers? Certainly MTBs, hybrids comfort bikes would have to fall into the wide-tire camp. Just going by shelf-space alloted to the various types of bikes in the LBSs I visit I'd have to say that it appears to be closer to 50% than a tiny fly on a donkey's hind end. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I saw your flat bar Roadeo on Fourth Street Berkeley yesterday
I can't tell from the photo, but there might be locking skewers for wheels and seatpost. If that's the case, there's not much more to do. As one who uses locking skewers for wheels, seatpost, saddle, it is a bit discerning sometimes how not locked up my bike looks sometimes even with a u-lock. Even going through front or rear wheel, the ulock does its job. David Chicago On Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:39:20 PM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote: That's pretty casually locked for such an expensive bike. On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: OOOPS! maybe this? Really https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/15379391629/in/photostream/ On Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:26:24 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Flat bar Roadeo https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/14926186514/in/photostream/ I think this one was featured in the blug recently. A real looker. I didn't touch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I saw your flat bar Roadeo on Fourth Street Berkeley yesterday
Couldn't park much closer to a cop car. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Bike and Hatchet First Aid
Re: [RBW] Re: I saw your flat bar Roadeo on Fourth Street Berkeley yesterday
I wouldn't call that a flat bar. But count me amongst those who use flimsy locks/cables when securing the bike within constant sight. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I saw your flat bar Roadeo on Fourth Street Berkeley yesterday
Well we recognize it as an expensive bike, but to the average person looks,like a vintage townie bike. He left the bag on so I guess he's nearby. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Bike and Hatchet First Aid
Oh, that reminds me of another great thing that should be in our first aid kits, an irrigation syringe for cleaning wounds. http://store.nols.edu/Store/pc/Irrigation-Syringe-p11.htm#.VEQvk4t4p4U And tweezers, to remove what irrigation syringes don't remove. On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote: Tony - sorry to hear about the accidents. I have been out of town, so if this has already been mentioned, I apologize for the repeat: For the bike -to the items you list in your first list, I add duct tape, about 3 yards wrapped around a small piece of cardboard. I've used it for many things, including to hold a bandage on sweaty skin! Sometimes it's the only thing, not fun to take off but for wounds not requiring an ambulance, it can help when wrap or tape won't stay. I also have a small (1/2 oz, 1 oz?) of alcohol based hand cleaner, which I refill from larger bottles from time to time. Also used for other things, but can help clean a wound along with wipes and spray from a water bottle. I also have a small pen knife, tiny thing but it can cut a bandage or whatever. Joan On 10/18/14, Tony DeFilippocom wrote: Since early August I've had or have been close to others with some bad luck on the bike and using a hatchet... I've been over the handlebars twice and then this weekend a good friend put one of my axes (fiskars x15) into his knee while splitting wood. All's well in each case thank goodness though two out of the incidents involved the emergency room and the Axe wound required an ambulance. Prevention of these incidents is definitely worth discussion and I've given each allot of thought in that regards but the recent issue with the Axe really has me thinking hard about my first aid kit for the woods and while on the bike... We were lucky to have several level headed people (couple of eagle scouts!) And the materials to improvise a tourniquet and compression bandage. So as I've been pouring over trauma kits for my truck and campsite I also started thinking that as a nearly every day commuter I should have some kit with me on the bike just as I have repair tools for the bike. The things I'm thinking of so far include; -wound cleaner, alcohol wipes? -antibiotic ointment -sterile gauze bandages (typical road rash size) -conforming wrap or athletic wrap or medical tape -triangle bandage -small assortment of band aids -rubber gloves Would the following be overkill; -CAT style tourniquet -quick clot sponge or bandage -'Israeli' style compression bandage -trauma shears The scenario for this kit is urban commuting with professional emergency responce time of 10 min or less, cell service at all times and the level of training I have is relatively basic. (Scout and basic military level). Oh and it needs to fit in either a large saddle wedge, frame bag or other such unobtrusive, stays on bike type location. What, if anything, do you guys include in your on bike kit? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I saw your flat bar Roadeo on Fourth Street Berkeley yesterday
I agree with Minh. Last week on a group ride two people looking at my new Sam asked..Is it old? Even thought it's clean and only a few months old. That's a nice bike! On Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:41:41 PM UTC-6, Minh wrote: Well we recognize it as an expensive bike, but to the average person looks,like a vintage townie bike. He left the bag on so I guess he's nearby. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I saw your flat bar Roadeo on Fourth Street Berkeley yesterday
A u-lock against a post is casual? A u-lock is as hard-core as I get, for any bike. On Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:39:20 PM UTC-4, Eric Daume wrote: That's pretty casually locked for such an expensive bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?
Most of the classic French randonneur machines had very *generous* fender clearances, and that, together with the wide, and thus stiff, fenders, seems to be the reason why there are no reports of fender accidents. Generally, more clearance is better. At some point, it doesn't look nice, and you get toe overlap problems, though... The idea is that small debris can be accelerated so much that it will collapse a fender - and you want it to go through the fender instead. Large stuff cannot pick up quite so much speed, and so it'll bang against the trailing edge of the fender, and then fall back onto the road. In most fender accidents I have seen, insufficient (too tight) clearances were at least a contributing factor. Generally speaking, metal fenders seem to be safer than plastic ones. Even the quick release of plastic fenders cannot prevent all accidents... Fender accidents are rare, but if they happen, they can be nasty. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly www.bikequarterly.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
I was referring to the road bike market not all bikes. That excludes hybrids/touring/cross/MTB bikes. That was what the original comment David made referenced. ~mike On Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:55:34 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 10/19/2014 03:08 PM, Mike Schiller wrote: Also, many road bikes in the 70's and 80's had room for 32-35mm tires. Raleigh and Trek come to mind. There does appear to be a boom in that market today, but it's still a tiny fly on a donkey's hind end in total bike sales. Is that really true? What percentage of the total bike market is made up of narrow-tired road racers? Certainly MTBs, hybrids comfort bikes would have to fall into the wide-tire camp. Just going by shelf-space alloted to the various types of bikes in the LBSs I visit I'd have to say that it appears to be closer to 50% than a tiny fly on a donkey's hind end. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I saw your flat bar Roadeo on Fourth Street Berkeley yesterday
If that's not a flat bar, what should I have called it? On Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:39:51 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote: I wouldn't call that a flat bar. But count me amongst those who use flimsy locks/cables when securing the bike within constant sight. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
Surely Shirley rides a Surly through the slurry surreptitiously. (But we'll never know because she's so good!) Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?
Not to nitpick, but my engineering background compels me to explain that when looking at fender/wheel dynamics, the trailing edge would be, counterintuitively, the front edge of the fender, not the rear edge. Aerodynamically, trailing edge refers to the rear of an object going through a wind flow. So it's logical that the nose of a saddle is the leading edge and the rear of the saddle is the trailing edge. But fenders are different because of their relationship to the rotating wheels. If you look at the fender of a bicycle in motion, the fender is actually moving in the opposite direction of the wheel, RELATIVE to the wheel. Therefore, the rear edge of the fender is the one that is moving toward the oncoming tire tread, toward the debris flow that we worry about getting jammed up in the fender, and therefore is the leading edge (debris flow is analogous to wind flow in the aerodynamic definitions of leading/trailing edges-- it enters at the rear, and [hopefully] bounces around and exits the front). So rear fender edge = leading; front fender edge = trailing. Sorry for the nitpick! On Sunday, October 19, 2014 6:44:12 PM UTC-4, Jan Heine wrote: Most of the classic French randonneur machines had very *generous* fender clearances, and that, together with the wide, and thus stiff, fenders, seems to be the reason why there are no reports of fender accidents. Generally, more clearance is better. At some point, it doesn't look nice, and you get toe overlap problems, though... The idea is that small debris can be accelerated so much that it will collapse a fender - and you want it to go through the fender instead. Large stuff cannot pick up quite so much speed, and so it'll bang against the trailing edge of the fender, and then fall back onto the road. In most fender accidents I have seen, insufficient (too tight) clearances were at least a contributing factor. Generally speaking, metal fenders seem to be safer than plastic ones. Even the quick release of plastic fenders cannot prevent all accidents... Fender accidents are rare, but if they happen, they can be nasty. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly www.bikequarterly.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose opinions
Hey Peter, I don't have a picture of the current setup. The bars are saddle height. The noodle bars on my Hilsen are saddle height as well and I only have very minor issues with them, and they are alleviated by the many hand positions I can go to. The Bullmoose are, I think, the 150mm type and are currently at maximum extension. I kind of fall right in the middle of 54cm and 58cm frames on the Hunqa (With an 89.5 PBH I comfortably ride a 63 Hilsen, but would be fine on a 61 too, I think) so I'm pretty sure the frame is a good size for me. I have a set of Moustache bars at home that I could swap. I have the road brake levers to fit and a stem, either a Technomic or Dirt Drop. Maybe that is the way to go. If so I will have a set of Bullmoose on the FS soon. I just need to get the Hunq to a place where I like to ride it... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
I just heard this story on NPR today about copying of styles within the fashion industry. The article makes the point that copying is important to the inovation that goes on in the fashion industry: New styles appear, they become widely copied [and] the copying signals that a trend has taken hold, he says. People buy into that trend, he says, because they want to be in fashion. As the copying continues, the early adopters see the rise of imitators and jump off, and the trend dies, he says. They then jump on the next trend and the fashion cycle begins again. So without copying, paradoxically, the fashion industry would be smaller and less innovative and poorer, he says. So perhaps the bicycle and fashion industries share this feature? http://www.npr.org/2014/10/19/357356041/bucking-the-fashion-trend-converse-kicks-up-a-fuss-about-knockoffs?utm_source=facebook.comutm_medium=socialutm_campaign=nprutm_term=nprnewsutm_content=2043 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quick Photo Set for Kelso - San Francisco ride
Added a last few. Think I'm done with photos for now. I'll post when I Tumblr or Blog or whatever. Thanks for the comments and likes! On Saturday, October 18, 2014 9:59:36 PM UTC-7, Ty Graham wrote: Hi, Here's a quick photo set from my 925 mile trip ending this last week. On my Atlantis. I'm still working on a blog post, but this can fill the gaps. I moteled it the whole way, so had a lighter load than most of the folks I ran into. Everything fit into my Sackville Large and Acorn Rando front. https://www.flickr.com/photos/13233995@N08/sets/72157648434202048/ More later. Ty Graham Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
No, didn't want to make it sound like Grant invented or even re-invented the idea. But I think the *acceptance* of large tires on road bikes is hugely a result of pushes he (and others!) made over the last 20 years. The folks that run 42mm as their *narrow* tires aren't representative of the recreational biking world, but I think the growth of bikes that can accept a tire that large is significant. Just today, I tagged along with the local bike club's weekend social ride, and I wasn't even the one with the fattest tires there! On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: as far as I know... the demi balloon tire resurgence started in Japan with some die-hard French Cyclo-touring folks who got the Hetre made. Jan imported them to the US and started riding that kind of bike. Certainly Grant was an influence in parallel for fat tired bikes in today's market, and deserves some credit. Also, many road bikes in the 70's and 80's had room for 32-35mm tires. Raleigh and Trek come to mind. There does appear to be a boom in that market today, but it's still a tiny fly on a donkey's hind end in total bike sales. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
I bet the tires size on all bikes has grown over the last 20 years. Hybrids previously had 30mm tires, now have 35 or 40. Even MTB widths have grown with the advent of fat bikes. Those obviously aren't related to Rivendell, but I do believe that the acceptance of fatter tires across the board has been helped tremendously by Grant P and Rivendell. On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 10/19/2014 03:08 PM, Mike Schiller wrote: as far as I know... the demi balloon tire resurgence started in Japan with some die-hard French Cyclo-touring folks who got the Hetre made. Jan imported them to the US and started riding that kind of bike. Certainly Grant was an influence in parallel for fat tired bikes in today's market, and deserves some credit. Let's not forget the Saluki: the first 650B bike to be sold in the US since the 1980s. Also, many road bikes in the 70's and 80's had room for 32-35mm tires. Raleigh and Trek come to mind. There does appear to be a boom in that market today, but it's still a tiny fly on a donkey's hind end in total bike sales. Is that really true? What percentage of the total bike market is made up of narrow-tired road racers? Certainly MTBs, hybrids comfort bikes would have to fall into the wide-tire camp. Just going by shelf-space alloted to the various types of bikes in the LBSs I visit I'd have to say that it appears to be closer to 50% than a tiny fly on a donkey's hind end. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
