[RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

Someone's getting a super duper Christmas present. I can hear him now: "I would never have believed a bike could be so much fun and feel this good to ride." dougP On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 11:37:42 AM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote: > > So, my husband rides - get ready for this - a Target

[RBW] FS: Sympathy Weight Sale - Outlier Cap, Filson Wool Vests, Filson 34" Belt, Wool Slacks

I have a couple items that I've grown out of in the past year or two. Please email me directly for pictures. Filson Mackinaw Vest, size 40, red plaid. Excellent condition $70 shipped Filson Mackinaw Vest, size 40, gray plaid. Also in excellent condition $70 shipped Filson 32" Bridle Leather

[RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

I'm not anti helmet and if I know I'm going down I would choose to have a helmet on. The article as many suggests that cycling is dangerous and 59% better chance of surviving a terrible crash. Well .. trouble is the chance of me having that terrible crash is pretty insignificant.

[RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

Hey, I wear my helmet all the time, but…The article fails to mention several OTHER important facts. Because of this, the study simply can’t be taken seriously. You simply can’t pick only the facts that support your desired conclusion; you must weigh all the facts. Those advocating helmet

[RBW] Jingle Bell Betty

I really wanted to do something no one else would be doing around here. Mission accomplished. https://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/albums/72157661484221426 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] Jingle Bell Betty

Success!!! On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Dave wrote: > Wow! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith fenders?

On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 8:53:11 PM UTC-8, Tim Wood wrote: > So I installed the black Cascadias and I'm pretty happy with how they turned > out. They went on smooth, fender line is dialed, the coverage is great and I > don't mind the look. > > Tim Damn iOS. Always flipping my damn

[RBW] Re: Jingle Bell Betty

No kidding! Whoda thunk? I'll bet the kids have a ball with that. doug On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 9:11:55 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote: > > I really wanted to do something no one else would be doing around here. > Mission accomplished. > >

[RBW] Jingle Bell Betty

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[RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

I am almost the exact same size (86 PBH/74-ish saddle height) and I fit very well on the 52. It felt great! That said, I'm with Will. The Appaloosa would be fantastic. It seems to have a lot of what I love about my 56 canti-Hillborne with the tire clearance of a Clem. Can't go wrong with

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

Those are Choco-staches, if you ask me. Just a further iteration on the 'stache bars. And nothing wrong with that, at all. I bet they would be comfy with road levers up at the curves, and/or some interruptors close in to the center. Still on Joe, were frame specs ever posted up? I'm wondering

[RBW] Re: Blue Clementine

I like the skinwall tires. What are those? I'm kind of surprised by how many frames were sold. I thought it was complete bike only and you could get your money back if that didn't work for you.. On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 1:45:41 PM UTC-8, Pudge wrote: > Got my Clementine frame and

[RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

Leah- Call Rivelo in PDX. They have stock of Clems in all sizes I think. -J On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 1:47:41 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote: > > Ah, well, there's the rub. He doesn't want the Clementine. He wants the > Clem, and it sounds like he'll need the size that Riv is sold out of, >

[RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

He's my husband's size. 52, not 59. I believe a few bikes went to shops. I would call Vince and ask if he knows of any 52s. If you ride togetherit is so important you both have great bikes. It makes such a difference. My husband rides twice as far now as he did before. Much nicer for both of

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

So worth a trip to RBW to test ride. On Nov 22, 2015 6:23 PM, "dougP" wrote: > Someone's getting a super duper Christmas present. I can hear him now: > "I would never have believed a bike could be so much fun and feel this good > to ride." > > dougP > > On Sunday, November

[RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

He's my husband's size. 52, not 59. I believe a few bikes went to shops. I would call Vince and ask if he knows of any 52s. If you ride togetherit is so important you both have great bikes. It makes such a difference. My husband rides twice as far now as he did before. Much nicer for both of

[RBW] Re: thinking about going 11 speed, does anyone make a 12-32?

Jim, I think you might get the gears you want more easily by picking rings that get you what you want with readily available cassettes. Eg. sram 11sp 11-28 with 42/24 rings 4224 11 99.3 56.7 12 91.0 52.0 13 84.0 48.0 14 78.0 44.6 15 72.8 41.6 16 68.2 39.0 17 64.2 36.7 19

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

Andrew There is a geo chart on the BLUG. Is your Quickbeam a 62? If so, you'll probably want to look at the 58 Appaloosa. If your Quickbeam is a 66, then the 62 Appaloosa is probably your thing. If your QB is in-between (64?) then you might beum...in-between. At any rate, both will

[RBW] Re: Blue Clementine

I jumped all over the frame for $700 wish I had grabbed another for a 20-something daughter. Since I have enough parts for a handful of bikes it was killing two birds with one stone. Now just to complete our move to our retirement home and get a new bike workshop set up, so I can knock out a

[RBW] FS: 60 cm Hillborne frameset (single top tube, canti brakes)

A new project means it's time for Sam to find a new owner. *Sale includes:* - 60 cm first-generation green frame/fork (single top tube, cantilever brakes) - silver Chris King headset (bought new and installed two years ago) - Shimano bb (UN-55?) - also two years old - Nitto mini-front rack (a

[RBW] Re: Blue Clementine

They offered framesets at the very beginning, but cut that off after only a few days. Savvy early adopters know that when you see something good from Riv, grab it. It looked to me that they got more frame adopters than they expected. On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 4:31:56 PM UTC-8, El

Re: [RBW] Re: Blue Clementine

Compass Switchback Hill 650B x 48. Great tires. On Nov 22, 2015, at 7:32 PM, El Sapo > wrote: I like the skinwall tires. What are those? I'm kind of surprised by how many frames were sold. I thought it was complete bike only

[RBW] Re: Blue Clementine

I jumped on the frame option as well and also wish I would've gone for another for my wife. David Chicago On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 6:47:02 PM UTC-6, Abcyclehank wrote: > > I jumped all over the frame for $700 wish I had grabbed another for a > 20-something daughter. Since I have enough

[RBW] Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

Not that this is going to change a single mind on the subject, but it is perhaps of interest to some: https://www.facs.org/media/press-releases/2015/haider And yes, I realize that the helmet and non-helmet camps have firmly established

Re: [RBW] WTB: Bar end shifters

Someone on the list had some near me. Thanks to everyone who responded. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

There is risk in pretty much everything we do in life. As you point out, unless compelled to do otherwise by laws, we all assess and respond to those risks in different ways. I didn’t see the article as saying that bicycling is risky (a high rate of accidents), just that wearing a helmet can

[RBW] Re: Third flat on Marathons

thanks On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 8:10:28 AM UTC-6, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > The sale was direct from Soma, and ended Nov. 1 IIRC. > > On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 7:59:50 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: >> >> ps - folks were mentioning sale prices on the new Soma Vitesse - anyone >> have a

[RBW] AHH Tubing Sticker on Frame

This is just a guess. I think it's on the sam because the sam uses riv's spec'd "silver" tubing. My assumption is that the AHH uses a more expensive name brand tubing, like the rest of the more expensive rivendells. You could probably call and ask them. It's a beautiful decal though. My sam

[RBW] Re: Third flat on Marathons

The sale was direct from Soma, and ended Nov. 1 IIRC. On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 7:59:50 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > ps - folks were mentioning sale prices on the new Soma Vitesse - anyone > have a link? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] FS: Brooks Swift, ti-rails, black - NEW

Hi, While the two B.17s have sold, the totally new titanium-rail Swift is still available. Note that "totally new" means never mounted, never Proofided (is that a verb?), stored inside, in perfect condition, in original box. *Brooks Swift, titanium rails, black (with saddle cover) = $230*

Re: [RBW] Hope You Heal Soon

I had a similar crash to Jan's, except that I was not descending and the car passed someone on a curve. It's just a worst nightmare scenario, one moment everything is fine and the next you have that "this is the last thing I'm going to see or I'll wake up in the hospital" moment. My left arm,

[RBW] AHH Tubing Sticker on Frame

In the recent post "The healing power of the bicycle a Rivendell story." the link to the story showed a Sam with a Tubing Sticker on the seat tube giving the tubing mechanical properties: yield stress (70 ksi) and ultimate tensile strength (UTS, 103 ksi). Does the AHH have such a Tubing

[RBW] Re: Third flat on Marathons

I don't think anybody hates Marathons. My buddy is the total city tire buyer/rider - all but one of his bikes have heavy tread and reflective sidewall stripes. (he has GP4000S on his Mercian.) I feel sorry for his wife with the 800g Michelin Proteks on her Afline upright mixte. She doesn't

[RBW] Was a 55cm double top tube Hillborne ever made?

There is a 56 in Orange on the Ann Arbor MI Craigslist. The post is old, but came up just now when I searched Rivendell. Nice bike. Tom Palmer, Twin Lake, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Re: Third flat on Marathons

ps - folks were mentioning sale prices on the new Soma Vitesse - anyone have a link? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: The healing power of the bicycle a Rivendell story.

Too few have learned the value that gift through words. Compared to equivalent physical lessons It's easier, hurts less and leaves miles off your soul's odometer. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 7:24:16 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Every day I can, it is a

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

Thanks for posting these pics Patrick. This is the best look at the Choco Moose bar yet. It looks like Grant put a lot of thought into providing a really comfortable pocket grip area forward of the levers. I will echo the sentiment that I am looking more and more forward to getting my hands on

[RBW] FS: Waterford Rivendell Road Standard/Custom

Nice looking bike. You can date it by the serial # on the bottom bracket. The usual Waterford dating method is used. Yours has no head tube extension and appears to have a level TT, so an earlier date might be right. Possibly repainted along the way, because it has later DT decals. -- You

[RBW] Clem for my husband

So, my husband rides - get ready for this - a Target Schwinn, purchased over 5 years ago that feels as though it is going to fall apart at any moment. Wobbly. Poor shifting. Bent bars. Awful. He never spends money on himself, but my excitement over my bike has rubbed off on him, and he's

[RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

Call RBW and they will instantaneously tell you what size is his. You can even buy it over the phone so as not to lose out in case there are only a couple left. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: AHH Tubing Sticker on Frame

Actually, the sticker mentioned above, and that same sticker on my Sam, are recent developments; I was surprised to find it when the frame arrived. Grant has in fact repeatedly stressed the unimportant of specific tubing in a frame; however, he does seem proud of these proprietary tubes. I

[RBW] Re: Third flat on Marathons

I cannot answer for MetinUtz, but I know that BQ did roll tests of various tires. The slowest tire was 20% slower than the fastest tire tested. Marathons were not tested. So if you rode the fastest tested tire on a 600k, you could, in theory, finish 20% faster than if you were on the slowest of

[RBW] Re: Was a 55cm double top tube Hillborne ever made?

A second top tube provides an added canine safety feature if: You have dismounted and are using the bike to block a charging dog. The extra TT makes it that much harder for the dog to leap through your frame and latch onto your leg , especially if you have two waterbottle cages and a frame pump

Re: [RBW] Re: AHH Tubing Sticker on Frame

Zach thanks for the reply.  The % of elements indicate it is Cr-Moly 4130 steel, 1% Cr 0.2% Mo, is the major alloying elements giving the steel certain properties.  In contrast, Reynolds 531 used Mangenese instead of Mo. The 2 values are the yield stress (used to design the frame) and ultimate

[RBW] Re: Third flat on Marathons

Metin, I don't mean to be argumentative, just curious. Could you explain how you know that using Marathons would cost you at least an hour in a 600K ride? regards Ted On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 9:53:54 PM UTC-8, Metin Uz wrote: > > Here is why I don't use Marathons: In a 600K ride, they

[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

Keith I went ahead and drew a 50cm Rambouillet, with a 46 Appaloosa and a 51 Appaloosa on top of it. The three drawings all have ground zero at the center of the BB. I can send you pictures, but photos of pencil on white paper don't show up all that well. At any rate, I can tell you

[RBW] Re: AHH Tubing Sticker on Frame

If I recall correctly, Grant has suggested that 1) the cost of tubes is such a small fraction of the total cost of a frame that it doesn't make any sense to try and save money there. 2) there is a lot more to a bike than the particular tubes it is made out of, and that getting all wrapped

[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

Well, now I know where Riv got the idea for the two colors to be offered. David P. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: AHH Tubing Sticker on Frame

Drew, Thanks for the reply. I would assume the same as you except for 2 thoughts 1. The AHH price may reflect the higher costs Waterford (or any American shop) has. It may NOT reflect higher grade tubing costs, Although one would think the AHH uses "better (higher strength)"

[RBW] Re: Was a 55cm double top tube Hillborne ever made?

I re-checked the one on the blug and it is sidepull. I will continue my blissful contentment with my orange, canti-sam. Despite the fact that there is no functional need for 2tt on a 56, I've always liked the unique aesthetic of the 2tt Rivs. But, it's good to be content with what one has.

[RBW] WTB: Bar end shifters

Looking for ratchet bar end shifters. Suntour hopefully, riv/vo good too. Will pickup in Seattle. My mission of returning to friction and 8 speed is almost complete. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] WTB: Bar end shifters

I can't say loud enough how nice the Silvers are, compared even to the old SunTours. FWIW. Me, I hope to try shifting 10 with my Silver BES. 9 is cake. On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Ryan Ray wrote: > Looking for ratchet bar end shifters. Suntour hopefully, riv/vo good

[RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

That'd put him on a 59cm for sure. David Chicago On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 1:37:42 PM UTC-6, LeahFoy wrote: > > So, my husband rides - get ready for this - a Target Schwinn, purchased > over 5 years ago that feels as though it is going to fall apart at any > moment. Wobbly. Poor shifting.

[RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

Go for an Appaloosa that delivers in March. Fully lugged. I've seen the Hillbornes. The Apploosa is a long chain-stay, canti-built Hillborne. It's the best offer Riv has going. For sure. On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 1:37:42 PM UTC-6, LeahFoy wrote: > > So, my husband rides - get ready for

[RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

I respectfully disagree. The Clem brochure recommends the 59 Clem Smith Jr for people with Saddle Height of 79-86. A rider with a PBH of 86.3 will have a Saddle Height of about 75.3. That puts him right in the middle of the range for a 52 Clem (SH 68-78). If he wanted to go way upright, a

[RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

Gotcha. Mixed up SH & PBH. David Chicago On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 3:15:18 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I respectfully disagree. The Clem brochure recommends the 59 Clem Smith > Jr for people with Saddle Height of 79-86. A rider with a PBH of 86.3 will > have a Saddle Height of

Re: [RBW] Re: Third flat on Marathons

Jan wrote an article in BQ a few years ago about saving time on Paris-Brest-Paris, quantifying the affect of around 10 lb weight difference, aero wheels, aero position, and slow vs fast tires. I'll be it would be easy to extrapolate from that. On 11/22/2015 01:15 PM, ted wrote: Metin, I

[RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

Ah, well, there's the rub. He doesn't want the Clementine. He wants the Clem, and it sounds like he'll need the size that Riv is sold out of, naturally. I wonder if there's any way the 59 could work. Sigh... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

After test riding my daughters' Clementines I was stunned how light and good they felt while still being hearty. A size small for me, they still rode great. I'd be delighted with a black or orange Clementine. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 2:47:41 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy