[RBW] Re: Snoqualmie Wow

Looks like there is room for full-coverage fenders with that set-up. Although, I expect you'll want to put the Ralphs back on when the snow flies. I now have a number of rides on Hetres (584x41) and they float along. What surprises me is their ability to deal with really poor condition

Re: [RBW] Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

If you're going to use an XT hub make sure it's an older one. The newer ones, like others have mentioned, are crap. I shattered the freehub body in half twice on mine in a matter of a few months. I had it replaced with a nos older xt that still uses the steel axle. I have tortured those and

[RBW] Shifting Mystery - Help

I just set up a new cassette, chain and chainrings, but now I'm having some issues shifting in my lower gears. There is almost no leeway between my bottom three gears so it's difficult(almost impossible) to line things up correctly without the chain jumping around. For context, I'm running a 9

[RBW] Re: Sold 60cm on eBay - real? Who bought?

Automatically listed with major pricing errors? Listing program? Technical issue? Huh? That does not make much sense to me. Somebody has to input the stuff, including picking a price. I notice that the seller currently has zero items for sale. I imagine eBay may be having a word with them.

[RBW] Re: Giving up on my Cambium C17

My latest build has a Brooks Pro, which I like. But I used to ride the SSM Regal back in the day, and I liked that saddle a lot. In fact, I recently picked one up on eBay (white, perforated) for an upcoming build. I also like the B17, and the Swift. I also don't mind the Belt Fujita, which is

[RBW] Re: Giving up on my Cambium C17

Just some insight on the Cambiums. Having a 35 yr. old B 17 and having tried the Cambium C 17 and C 19, my thoughts are that Cambiums work better for heavier riders. I'm now at 206 lbs and the C 17 carved and the C 19 both feel pretty good, though my max rides on both borrowed saddles was 2

[RBW] Re: Snoqualmie Wow

If you go with with the EL, 3 of them will weigh about what a pair of 40 mm Marathon Supremes weigh. And it is possible to physically damage a Marathon; I know, I've done it. dougP On Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 6:02:16 PM UTC-7, Jay Connolly wrote: > > I like these tires so much that I'm

[RBW] Re: Hunq rider in Kingston NY

I am almost certainly positive that would be Brian, who owns just such a bicycle and occasionally drops in to RBW Owners Bunch. I don't think he would mind me saying that he moved to Kingston from Beacon not too long ago, and opened a small bicycle shop, Utility Bicycle Works, at 228 Wall

[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm Sam Hillborne double top tube

Beautiful bike and I hope it finds a home soon! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Re: Giving up on my Cambium C17

I'm one of those who finds Brooks b17 shaped saddles comfortable right out of the box, as well as over time. The shape just works for me, I guess. I actually never think about my saddles now that I have a Brooks on all my bikes. They truly disappear for me. I rode with my friend the other day

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

If this conversation is about hubs and money is not an object, then let me throw my two cents in the pot. I have two bikes with White Industries rear hubs, two bikes with Chris King classic rear hubs, and one bike with an XT touring hub. The white industries hubs are great, my only complaint

[RBW] Re: Snoqualmie Wow

30 front-40 rear. On Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 8:36:38 PM UTC-6, John G. wrote: > > 45-50, but I'm too scared to play around! I'm almost exclusively on > potasphalt. How bout you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

"the replacement of the steel axles with aluminum resulted in smaller diameter bearing balls to allow for the increase in axle diameter. The result is compromised longevity." Thanks Pano for this insight/info. On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 10:51 AM, panog wrote: > I have

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

I have the WI MI5 on my Riv and I am very pleased with it. The wheels are built using H+Son TB-14 rims and 36 Sapim Race spokes. A word of caution on the newer XT hubs; the replacement of the steel axles with aluminum resulted in smaller diameter bearing balls to allow for the increase in axle

[RBW] Re: Snoqualmie Wow

45-50, but I'm too scared to play around! I'm almost exclusively on potasphalt. How bout you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Snoqualmie Wow

What psi do you run yours, John? I'm also on Atlas rims and weigh the same as you. On Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 8:23:44 PM UTC-6, John G. wrote: > > After about 200 miles, mine measured 43mm on Velocity Atlas rims. Truly > delightful tires--glad you enjoyed them! -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Snoqualmie Wow

After about 200 miles, mine measured 43mm on Velocity Atlas rims. Truly delightful tires--glad you enjoyed them! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: New Riv Model - Newsletter

I read it as "no more Sams or Appaloosas for 648 days, so if you like the ones we have now (in these colors), get 'em now." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

Hi Birdman, I have no experience with PW but I had Rich build me a WI M15 26" (36 spokes) rear wheel and a Son Hub front (36 spokes) for my 51 Atlantis. Both front and rear wheels performed well during my TransAm last 2016. I was very glad I had Rich build my wheels since I met 3 cyclist

[RBW] Re: Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

Thanks all, I'm enjoying and learning from your thoughts/experiences/opinions. Cory, I've been in touch with Rich too. In fact, it was his mentioning the WI and PW as "high end" options for my situation/build that prompted this thread. Pleasure to meet another Atlantis-awaiter. Thanks again

[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm Sam Hillborne double top tube

Thanks! price drop to 1450$ for riv group and ibob members for the basic build. i have it listed on CL HERE , with photos of the bike as it will be sold. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: Snoqualmie Wow

My plan exactly, Jay! nearly the perfect plush all terrain touring tire, though underbiking a wee bit on technical single track. I've ridden my QB on a lot of technical single track over the last three+ years with the Barlow Pass tires and not once had a sidewall issue, which surprises me

[RBW] Re: Snoqualmie Wow

I like these tires so much that I'm going to use them on a tour this summer. There are risks, so I'm taking an extra tire, in case one gets slashed beyond repair. I just can't give up the ride quality. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Snoqualmie Wow

what width do they measure out at? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

Isaac- I'm in the same position as you - I'm awaiting an Atlantis, and presently putting together my build (with two wheelsets). I had thought about Phil hubs for one set of wheels (old XT hubs I already had for the other), but I went with MI-5s after speaking with Rich. There was no

[RBW] Re: Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

I own the PW touring hub, had it for 3 years now. On the way down the coast on my tour last summer I stopped by PW and had them upgrade the hub to the latest 11 speed cassette body and change all the bearings, not that I needed it, I was just in the area. Since then I've put 10,000km on it

[RBW] Re: Giving up on my Cambium C17

I've purchased several used B17s and they were all comfortable immediately. Every body-to-saddle relationship is different, but I've never found that the used shape interferes with mine. Someone else mentioned adapting to new ones right away, which I'm sure is possible if "right away" means

[RBW] Re: Snoqualmie Wow

Keith, front, yes. Rear, possibly, but you be limited to the rearward wheel position and it would be snug. I haven't tried mounting them, and I've only inflated mine to 35psi and they measure 41mm. I expect them to expand with time, as the Compass did. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June

[RBW] Re: Giving up on my Cambium C17

For about a decade, I rode B17s exclusively. I then I went on a short tour with a bunch of rain in the forecast and didn't want to fuss with leather--not that my saddles haven't gotten wet many times over the years, but regardless. I threw on a relatively narrow Selle plastic saddle and went

[RBW] Hunq rider in Kingston NY

I saw a nice green hunqapilar with diagonal tube and a sackville rear bag being ridden toward town at about 7:45am today on Wilbur Ave. Was it anyone on this list? Jason (in Eddyville) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Sold 60cm on eBay - real? Who bought?

I am sure you would have not problem unloading. Saves me explaining how good of a deal it is to my wife. She normally doesn't buy that argument. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

New XT hubs suck. You won't save money and maybe even kill yourself or your frame. Clayton Scott SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Giving up on my Cambium C17

Hi Tim, my experience with the C17 is the same as yours. I find the C17 good for about 10-15 miles and after that my sit bones are aching. As I prefer a Brooks Pro over a B17, I thought maybe I needed a narrower saddle, so I tried the C15. That was like sitting on the sharp edge of an ax. The

[RBW] Re: Sold 60cm on eBay - real? Who bought?

Yeah, I'm really not bummed at all, I honestly expected to see this in my inbox sooner than later. If I am being honest I have wy too many bikes as it is. But agreed, I was flying high on the fumes of that deal yesterday for sure. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Wednesday, June 14,

[RBW] Re: Snoqualmie Wow

Looks nice. You're probably the guy to ask: would those fit on an "actual" quickbeam? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Snoqualmie Wow

Photo of the new shoes and a singletrack update... http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/hunqapillars-new-shoes On Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 12:10:26 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Compass’ EL Snoqualmie have turned my Hunqapillar into a stout, geared > Quickbeam. Grin. > > Just did my first ride

Re: [RBW] Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

Go with the XT's and use the money you save for Nitto stuff. That way you get both. Dependable hubs and dependable bicycle bling. On Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 11:26:00 AM UTC-5, Birdman wrote: > > Thanks all, I'm definitely looking for reliability, durability, and peace > of mind. In the end,

[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm Sam Hillborne double top tube

Great looking bike. Wish I could add one to my collection. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Sold 60cm on eBay - real? Who bought?

I emailed to see if they had any other. Said they sold and shipped one. Didn't have another one. Great buy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Re: Sold 60cm on eBay - real? Who bought?

too bad, i looked at their listings for other bikes and noticed quite a few that were priced too low when compared with other ones that looked to be priced retail. it's too bad, but at the same time it seems like an honest mistake and not something sketchy so gotta let it go. besides think

[RBW] Re: Giving up on my Cambium C17

Hi, Broccoli Cog. I got my first Brooks--a B17 two months ago on a Joe A. Prior to that, I rode inexpensive saddles that I purchased at the LBS, but those rides were usually short, less than 10 miles. My first ride on B17 was OK, but my sits bones and back hurt a little, like the first

[RBW] Re: New Riv Model - Newsletter

" not being able to get an orange Sam or a green/silver Appaloosa for at least 648 days " I read this as those colors might not be available for those models, not that the models are going away. The Appaloosa was such a swift seller (and loved by many, including me), I cannot imaging not

[RBW] Re: AHH with Shimano Nexus 8 Speed Internal Gear Hub

Hi R Gonet, Curious as to what has been your long term experience with the IGH... On Wednesday, 2 July 2008 20:46:41 UTC-7, R Gonet wrote: > > I just completed building up a Hilsen with a Shimano 8 speed internal > gear hub and really enjoy it. It is simple, easy to use, requires >

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road, Rambouillet and a poor man's Hunqapillar

That Road is sooo nice. GLWS! KJ On Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 1:36:47 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote: > > These are now listed on eBay... currently at super low prices with no > reserve! Please take a look and bid! > > > On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 8:53:49 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote: >> >> A pending

[RBW] Snoqualmie Wow

Compass’ EL Snoqualmie have turned my Hunqapillar into a stout, geared Quickbeam. Grin. Just did my first ride on thebeauties, all of 8 miles, but it is the 8 miles of Ute Pass to Woodland Park via CR21 that I ride to ride anywhere else. Wow. Yet smoother than the Compass (not surprising with

[RBW] Re: Platform Pedal Recommendation for Sam

Most comfortable platform pedal I have ever pedaled is the Canfield Cramp-on Ultimate. The new Mountain version looks good too, but have no first hand experience. The are convex! Not concave. They need some lube now and then, but so far they have held very well on the MTB. Very spendy, but

Re: [RBW] Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

i had a rear hub for this and it was also excellent On Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 1:50:37 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote: > > Or what about Rivendell's Silver hubs? Not as pricey but they seem to be > good-looking, reasonably priced and I'm sure are meant to be super-reliable > > On Wednesday,

Re: [RBW] Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

Or what about Rivendell's Silver hubs? Not as pricey but they seem to be good-looking, reasonably priced and I'm sure are meant to be super-reliable On Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 11:26:00 AM UTC-5, Birdman wrote: > > Thanks all, I'm definitely looking for reliability, durability, and peace >

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road, Rambouillet and a poor man's Hunqapillar

These are now listed on eBay... currently at super low prices with no reserve! Please take a look and bid! On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 8:53:49 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote: > > A pending move has motivated me to thin the herd a bit... > > First up is a Rivendell Road with a very nice 10 speed

[RBW] Re: Platform Pedal Recommendation for Sam

I think Shimano Saint is worth a mention. I have it on one of my bikes. Have no complaints. On Monday, 12 June 2017 08:07:36 UTC-7, Austin B wrote: > > I'm looking for a recommendation for a decent quality, inexpensive (<$40), > large platform pedal for my Sam Hillborne. > > I currently

Re: [RBW] Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

I have had excellent experience with both DT 240s/350s hubs and recent WI. The WI MI5 is a fantastic hub with emphasis on durability and likely would look best on the Atlantis. If you want DT you have to by older versions. All new ones in 135mm are disc hubs. You can change the rear spacing

[RBW] Re: Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

More money doesn't always mean a better hub, and I define an excellent hub as one that works as intended with minimal maintenance. FWIW, I don't own any cassette wheels, having run PW FW hubs ongoing. They have been excellent, and I for one do prefer the independence of hub and freewheel.

Re: [RBW] Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

I will recommend the WI hub as well. They are a great company to deal with for any support issues. Dan On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Birdman wrote: > Thanks all, I'm definitely looking for reliability, durability, and peace > of mind. In the end, I'll likely go with an XT,

[RBW] Re: Sold 60cm on eBay - real? Who bought?

Alas, File Under: 2GOOD 2B TRUE Hello, > > > > Regretfully, in the last couple of days we have experienced a glitch with > our new listing program. We had a number of bikes that were automatically > listed with major pricing errors and some that were no longer in stock also > became listed.

Re: [RBW] Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

Issac, You may want to peruse the archives of the tandem list and see what holds up well on tandems. In the past, I've had very good luck with Phil wood freewheel hubs but their cassette hubs don't seem to have the same durability. I have little experience with cassette hubs but I've

Re: [RBW] FS: Bruce Gordon Racks

Please give me a call at the shop if you want to know more about these racks, Regards, Bruce Gordon Bruce Gordon Cycles www.bgcycles.com brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com (707) 762-5601 On Jun 13, 2017, at 6:26 PM, drew wrote: > these came with, not on, a

Re: [RBW] Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

Thanks all, I'm definitely looking for reliability, durability, and peace of mind. In the end, I'll likely go with an XT, but it's fun to consider the relative merits of these two "high end" options -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

I know it's only anecdotal but FWIW I have heard more reliability complaints about Phil Wood products than any other manufacturer. I realize some PW owners have had trouble-free experiences, but personally I would seriously would think twice about spending huge money on something having heard

[RBW] Re: Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

I think the WI M15's are beautiful hubs and less spendy than PW rear cassette hubs On Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 10:38:28 AM UTC-5, Birdman wrote: > > So it turns out that while I wait for my Atlantis frame, I get to have > lots of fun drafting up my dream build before the cold, hard reality

Re: [RBW] Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

I've had the Phil Wood Touring hubs, and I'm done with them. The one that was on my Saluki and eventually on my MAP failed on a ride when one of the ratchets broke off and in turn ruined the gearing on the inside of the hub shell. I had Phil rebuild it, but there was so much internal

[RBW] Re: Sold 60cm on eBay - real? Who bought?

Yeah, I saw that. Same photos, description and inventory number. I'm kinda fighting the urge to contact the seller, but I don't want to spook the horse. Thinking I'll just wait and see what shows up (or doesn't). Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 8:27:03 AM

[RBW] Re: Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

I would personally go WI hub. It's durable and it's a great hub. i got one on a custom, and it's very well-made. However, I've never tried a phil hub, but i do remember hearing some issues in very freezing temps? On Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 11:38:28 AM UTC-4, Birdman wrote: > > So it turns

[RBW] Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

So it turns out that while I wait for my Atlantis frame, I get to have lots of fun drafting up my dream build before the cold, hard reality sets in 3-4 months from now. Lately I've been thinking about a wheel set. I'm a big guy at 250lbs and will be riding on pavement, gravel, and dirt roads

[RBW] Re: Sold 60cm on eBay - real? Who bought?

It was the same bike listed twice and sold twice. Take a look at sold rivendells. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Giving up on my Cambium C17

I agree Jay. I think that hump at the top of the C17 is problematic for me. The comments are making me think more about trying a B17 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[RBW] Re: FS: IRD Defiant Compact Road Double Cranks

SOLD! On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 4:53:15 PM UTC-5, Gideon Tsang wrote: > > These are still available. Correction, 170mm, not the originally stated > 172.5 mm. > > On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 10:09:05 PM UTC-5, Gideon Tsang wrote: >> >> 170 mm. Just a little too long of me. Like new. >> > --

[RBW] Re: Platform Pedal Recommendation for Sam

I use the MKS Grip King or Lambda pedals on my Sam. I added spikes and think the traction as effective as clipless and cleats. I used VP on my Hunq until the bearings decided to fail in the middle of a 10 day tour. I've since replaced them with MKS so I can service them myself. Marc On

[RBW] Re: Giving up on my Cambium C17

I have both Rivet saddles and Brooks saddles. The Rivets are comfortable more quickly, IMO, but the Brooks saddles are a little more comfortable in time. I tried the Cambium and hated it. I was surprised by the claims that it was designed to replicate a B17 in a different material. I'm plenty

[RBW] Re: Giving up on my Cambium C17

I own a ton of Brooks leather saddles and really don't find the B17 hard to break in, per se. In fact, the shape is basically comfortable to me from the beginning. The Brooks Pro is extremely hard and can go a long time before any break in at all happens. I bought a used B17 off of eBay and

[RBW] Re: Sold 60cm on eBay - real? Who bought?

Wow, had I seen this listing I would've purchased immediately as well. Congrats on the new Cheviot and great deal! Will Ashe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: WTB: 43T, 110 S!LVER chainring

Yes, thanks. I was looking for an unramp, unpinned Rivy silver. Sold out per the Riv site. There are the other 43t available. I may just go that right. Worth a shot looking for a silver. Thanks again. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Giving up on my Cambium C17

Thanks Deacon. I have read some of your reviews on the Rivet. My LBS is a dealer so I thought I would try them out. I really like the idea of the guarantee they offer. That is really appealing when you are taking a chance on a $150 saddle. On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 9:04:38 PM UTC-4, Deacon

[RBW] Re: Giving up on my Cambium C17

I was wondering about buying a used B17. I thought the whole idea is that after break in the saddle forms its shape to the riders anatomy. Lets say a rider owns it for a few years and it forms to that individual rider. Is it possible for me to then ride the same saddle and have it adapt to my

[RBW] Re: Sold 60cm on eBay - real? Who bought?

Since we're talking about ones that got away. Not as great a deal as the OP. But mine is a Choco bar orange sam that looked like it just left riv hq, for 1600 last week. Mine to turn down and decided the roadini or something similar made more sense for me. But feel a little tinge... -- You

[RBW] Re: Giving up on my Cambium C17

BC: If you can find a used-not-trashed B17, that's a good (slightly cheaper) way to find out if it works for you. New ones can take so long to break in that you might throw in the towel before finding out if it's a possibility. I'd look for one that's got enough life in it to last a while, then