[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread rw1911
I wrote a big, long response sharing my personal experiences with moving to new tech related to bikes and cars, but in the end, I came to the same place... Why not? Disc brakes are good. Maybe they they don't have the character or aesthetics of our beloved rim brakes, but they are good, even

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Just to be clear, and I'm starting to regret bringing up this phrase in the first place, a line in the sand is not a brand or marketing distinction. Obviously Rivendell is not The Bicycle Company Without Discs Ever Since 1994. And no, if they made a disc bike I wouldn't look at it as selling

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Lines drawn in the sand don't lead to anything; they are something. Specialized was used to make the point that if you wander past your line in the sand one too many times, you can become just another generic bicycle company. Because it does not make sense to you where someone else decides to

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Jeremy Tavan
I volunteer to pick up that torch in a few months when the Bimoz motor for my MTBubbe comes in. On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 9:29:19 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Hey, it could be worse, Mark. I could still be going on about Rivs with > electric motors ;-) -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: When your Rambouillet chainstay/dropout broke, were you...

2018-02-03 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Thanks, Wards! Very interesting to read about the repairs and how the ride differs from the Hilsen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Have you loved your model of Rivendell so much that you bought one of every color?

2018-02-03 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
Well, technically, my custom only has one original color. So yes, I bought one of every color. OK, it was a sunny 75 degrees here in Silicon Valley today. I should had gone riding. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
Hey, it could be worse, Mark. I could still be going on about Rivs with electric motors ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Have you loved your model of Rivendell so much that you bought one of every color?

2018-02-03 Thread RJM
Nope, but I’ve paid extra for a custom color on my Roadeo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread Don Compton
I would really like a 60cm Saluki with Roadeo/Legolas tubing. On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 12:21:26 AM UTC-8, drew wrote: > > It’s late and I’ve been inspired by lum gim fongs Willy nilly topic > creation. I’ve owned 2 sams, a hunq, Clem and Atlantis. Down to just an > Atlantis now and

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
Agreed, which is how I talked myself into a disc Riv dirt bike. I can't see discs on any other models. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: When your Rambouillet chainstay/dropout broke, were you...

2018-02-03 Thread DonandDebi Ward
I have a 65 cm Rambouillet that I bought from the original owner about 4 years ago. The previous owner said that the chain stay dropout had broken and that it had been repaired by Rivendell and that they had repainted the entire frame including the fork at that time. The bikes wheelset and

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread drew
Sure, and that’s a valid reason (I’m playing devil’s advocate myself for the aforementioned reasons), but it’s not a line in the sand. Especially for road and all rounder style bikes. That’s a totally valid point of view. If we are talking hunqapillar/mountainy/plus bike (which I thought we

[RBW] Re: Clem L Sizing for Wife with 87.5 PBH

2018-02-03 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I don't exactly know my PBH, but my saddle is usually set around 74, so I can infer that I'm a centimeter or two shy of 87. I' am five ten. I am very happy with this size for me, although recently having spent some time on my friend's 55cm Cheviot, I would go 59 with that bike. I would think

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
Drew, to play devil's advocate for why Grant would tell me discs are a no go, I don't think he's thrilled with the stresses the front one puts into the fork. For someone who's invested so much of his design ethos into a lovely, slender fork, I can see why this would concern him. -- You

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread drew
Id ask what the line in the sand leads to? I’d like to think that Rivendell is smart enough and creative enough to own a minor mechanical change and figure out a way to make it fit with their brand. Somehow crust and bmc and many others have been able to remain unique while embracing all

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I know it's undertaken in a helpful spirit, Joe. You must cut me some slack, as I am of the opinion that our modern civilization truly went off the rails when the telephone climbed down off the kitchen wall. If you start advocating for chainsaws, that will be another story. (I will say that a

[RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
The Surly may be similar to the original Jones, but not the current Loop. Loop has hand positions near the stem and far forward, as well as the standard grip position on the ends. There's any number of cheaper bars out there if you just want the ends position. -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
Also, the question isn't whether folks think a disc Riv is acceptable. The question is if anybody wants one, thereby presuming they would buy it. The answer is yes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Have you loved your model of Rivendell so much that you bought one of every color?

2018-02-03 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Rustoleum is your friend, Mr. Fong. Less than 10 bucks a can, and a matter of hours. Just remember, ventilation is your friend. On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:14:05 PM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > Just wondering if anyone here has done that. > I think about doing that sometimes. But that

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
Well Mark, this thread is an offshoot of the one asking about potential Rivs which don't exist, so that's the spirit of Hunqadiscer. And yes, I would think it would originate from one of the youngsters as Clem did. That's why I brought it up with Roman instead of Grant, who'd rather have a hole

[RBW] Cowboy Trail NE, Goatheads, tire choice

2018-02-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
Erl, from my limited experience with Orange Sealant in tubes, this is exactly the situation Patrick of the Moore’s tube goop system works for. All you need to buy is tubes with removable valve cores (if yours aren’t already), a valve core remover tool, and the Orange Sealant. No mess installing

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I think I said this some time ago in one of the previous disc-ussions, but I would think if RBW were to go in this direction, it might be with a design from one of the non-Grant designers at the company, who have been working on the Rosco projects. On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 10:28:56 PM

[RBW] Re: Have you loved your model of Rivendell so much that you bought one of every color?

2018-02-03 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Gotta keep the forum alive!!! :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Drew wrote: *It seems unnecessarily stubborn to completely rule out another way of stopping a bike. I mean that’s all it is. How a bike stops shouldn’t be integral to anyone’s being.* You are so right. And you know, making a bicycle out of carbon fiber or aluminum or bamboo is just another

[RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

2018-02-03 Thread a spens
Alternatively, you might consider a much cheaper option to try the Surly Open Bar ( https://surlybikes.com/parts/handlebars/open_bar ) I installed one on my Clem and really like it. It's very similar to the original Jones bar in sweep angle and length but with 25.4 clamp diameter. I

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread John G.
Alex wins this thread, IMHO. Me? I could go for a Roadeo with the clearance of the Atlantis. But I guess the Legolas sorta covers that... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread drew
+1 on forks. I’d buy an Atlantis or hunq fork immediately and have someone braze disc tabs on it right away. I know it’s weird, but I want a canti fork and a disc fork. (Also, if anyone has any recommendations for a custom builder who can make a 1in threaded disc fork that is otherwise

[RBW] Cowboy Trail NE, Goatheads, tire choice

2018-02-03 Thread WETH
My son and I plan on riding several of the country's (USA) railtrails this summer, including the Cowboy Trail in Nebraska. http://www.bikecowboytrail.com/default.aspx Previous riders of this trail have reported in online journals that there are thorns and "goatheads" in several sections that

Re: [RBW] What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
This all reminds me of a story my dear old uncle Lewy used to regale me with when I was a lad.* The story tells of a prince who wants to marry a princess, but is having difficulty finding a suitable wife. Something is always wrong with those he meets, and he cannot be certain they are *real*

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread Justin August
Does Argo Cargo bike not fit your #1? https://argobikes.com -J On Feb 3, 2018, 6:42 PM -0800, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles <4824...@gmail.com>, wrote: > Wish list: > > 1. Clem style modular bakfiets attachment. Drop your fork, plug in your cargo > front end w/ 20" wheel & front

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
Wish list: 1. Clem style modular bakfiets attachment. Drop your fork, plug in your cargo front end w/ 20" wheel & front brake cable ready to go Room for 2.5" tires. 2. 650b (26 for smalls) Homer on steroids with light tubing, canti, room for 2.0's & fenders I'd love a 63cm c-t level top

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread Linda G
A Cheviot with v-brakes as several have already mentioned. And in that nice dark green they once came in. Sidepulls just don't work for me in the wet winters here. On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 12:21:26 AM UTC-8, drew wrote: > > It’s late and I’ve been inspired by lum gim fongs Willy nilly

[RBW] wtb 55 frame or complete

2018-02-03 Thread drew
I can verify that the geo chart is wrong. When I was deciding between a 56 Atlantis and 56 hunq, I asked will for various measurements and the numbers he gave me were different than the geo chart. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] wtb 55 frame or complete

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
Middle of seatpost horizontal to middle of headtube. It's just about impossible to get it right without the post in there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

2018-02-03 Thread tc
Thanks all! Sweet bikes. Got a grilver 59 clem h today and can't wait to play around with diff bars. The VO threadless stem adapter + stem with removable faceplate is a smart-lookin solution. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Clem L Sizing for Wife with 87.5 PBH

2018-02-03 Thread tc
Hey, The 52 and 59 Clem L's sizing overlaps quite a bit. Does anyone out there with a 52 Clem L and an 87-88 PBH wish they'd gotten a 59? Or vice-versa? My wife is considering one. We'll talk with the Riv folks, but I'd love to hear of any experience you all have if you're in the same PBH

[RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

2018-02-03 Thread Kevin Lindsey
Ah. Perfect. I knew there had to be something like that out there somewhere but, until now, was too lazy to track it down. I'll shoot VO an order in the morning. Many thanks, Kevin Lindsey Alexandria, VA On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:00:14 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Till wrote: > > Velo orange

[RBW] wtb 55 frame or complete

2018-02-03 Thread MountNormal
If I measure from the front of the head tube, I get 61.5...I was under the impression that the measurement was from the middle of the head tube.. as I mentioned,I might be doing it all wrong. I aplogize for my ignorance and for taking this thread hostage. :) Stephen -- You received this

[RBW] wtb 55 frame or complete

2018-02-03 Thread MountNormal
Joe, That measures 56. Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] wtb 55 frame or complete

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
What's the measurement from BB center to top of seattube? Your bike sounds like it's a size smaller than 56. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I don't really have an interest in disc brakes but a tig welded Hunqapillar clone in the clem frameset price range would make me a happy man. On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 2:30:33 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Now that I've conjured up my future-Riv on the "what type of bike" thread >

[RBW] Re: Have you loved your model of Rivendell so much that you bought one of every color?

2018-02-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
Nae such thin’ as bad weather, only bad clothing. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread EasyRider
If Riv did a Scapegoat-ish plus bike, that'd be a disc bike, wouldn't it? I think so, for practical reasons and intended use. The Hubbuh tandem has a disc mount for a drag brake, so it's not like Riv is morally opposed to the technology. FWIW, I get one finger braking with good modulation

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread iamkeith
On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 5:19:36 PM UTC-7, Dave Grossman wrote: > > ... The fact that they spec bikes with parts that could have been found 30 > years ago is what makes them endearing. > > ^ This is true. However, because I'm the kind of guy who will only buy a bike that I

[RBW] Re: Have you loved your model of Rivendell so much that you bought one of every color?

2018-02-03 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Okay Lum, I don't care how cold it is in Maryland, you need to go for a ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread Sky Coulter
Isn’t that the clem? Sky in new west > On Feb 3, 2018, at 5:11 PM, nash5...@gmail.com wrote: > > Something like a hunq but with the price point of a clem. That would do it > for me. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] wtb 55 frame or complete

2018-02-03 Thread MountNormal
John, It fits well, I have Albatross bars with a 12mm stem...now, the chart says the TT is 61.5 except I measured it and I come up with 59...also, the SO was measured by Riv when they built it up (with full 2.4 inch Schwalbe Super Moto X tires) and it came to 83.6 which doesn't match the

[RBW] wtb 55 frame or complete

2018-02-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
As I understand it, John, sloped top tubes, which can accomidate a wider range of riders due to standover height (but may require shifts in saddle, stem, and handlebar positions/sized to dial in fit), read a smaller size but fit larger. I ride a 62cm Hunqapillar and a 66 Quickbeam. Their main

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread nash5510
Something like a hunq but with the price point of a clem. That would do it for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr or Appaloosa as a mtb/gravel road bicycle.

2018-02-03 Thread Doug H.
Ann, I already acquired a Clem H and am considering a handlebar swap. Thanks for the feedback. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] FS: Woolistic wool jersey from Rivendell

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bunik
I'd love to try it, Brad. Let me know, thanks!!! =- Joe On 2/3/18, Brad wrote: > I'm selling one of those long sleeve wool jerseys made by Woolistic. Grey > with red, black, and green stripes on the torso, neck, and wrists (like > this one >

[RBW] Re: Have you loved your model of Rivendell so much that you bought one of every color?

2018-02-03 Thread 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch
No. But that is my new Lotto fantasy. On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 6:14:05 PM UTC-6, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > Just wondering if anyone here has done that. > I think about doing that sometimes. But that would be a tremendous amount > of money. Maybe over the years... -- You received this

[RBW] wtb 55 frame or complete

2018-02-03 Thread John W
I’m not the OP, but this is where I think potential new Riv riders like myself get confused. “Well, you’re a 53 in x frames. A 55 in Y. You’d be a 57 in Z but you could also do a 59.” *Runs to geo chart*. MountNormal, I’m curious — how does that 56 fit with its 61cm effective top tube? What

[RBW] Have you loved your model of Rivendell so much that you bought one of every color?

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
Have you ever entered a competition for most new threads on a forum? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm not proposing a hydro Riv, that's a swap I would make myself at home. A Hunqadiscer would come with the same levers, cranks and derailers as any other trail-ready Riv, it would just have mechanical discs instead of rim brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread Charlie R
Right On!!! Better description than my recent post. I have the damn hearts on my Gomez and Wilbury Charlie On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 3:30:23 PM UTC-5, tc wrote: > > I like the wide-tire, canti, lugged, mountain mixte idea. Replace hearts > on lugs with

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread Charlie R
A Mountain Mixte with room for wide tires (3 inches) and 26 inch wheels in the smaller sizes. (I'm short and old.) The North American Handmade Bicycle Show is 20 miles away from me in a few weeks and I'm really thinking about attending and talking to builders about such a bike. Charlie in

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread Tim D
I've been envisioning a Custom lately. It'd basically be a Rambouillet/Roadeo with room for 700cx32 tires *with* fenders, and AHH-style braze-ons for front and rear Mark's racks. On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 1:21:26 AM UTC-7, drew wrote: > > It’s late and I’ve been inspired by lum gim

Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa Front-End Update

2018-02-03 Thread Liam Allen
Hi everyone, Thanks for all this info. New to this so not sure I'm posting in the right place but thanks to Coal and Kainalu too! What a bummer! I actually got the Tubus to replace a Hebie front pannier rack I was running. It was fine great and sat level, and it did me well for a long trip in

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Dave Grossman
I don't feel Riv would be Riv with discs. Are they going to spec XT hydros with an Altus mech? Are you going to build a full 1x11 XT Hunqa? That just doesn't seem Riv to me. The fact that they spec bikes with parts that could have been found 30 years ago is what makes them endearing. They

[RBW] Have you loved your model of Rivendell so much that you bought one of every color?

2018-02-03 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Just wondering if anyone here has done that. I think about doing that sometimes. But that would be a tremendous amount of money. Maybe over the years... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

2018-02-03 Thread Jeremy Till
Velo orange now makes a quill stem with a 31.8mmm bar clamp and a removable faceplate. That is what I used to mount the Loop bars on my Clem. As Joe said, the other way to do it would be a threadless stem on a quill to threadless adapter. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Fixed Gear and Crank Arm Length

2018-02-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
The gear calculator is an excellent place to answer my question, Kai. Thanks. My switch from a 40t chainring to 44t (4.7-5.1, or an increase of .4 gain ratio) was roughly the same as the difference in gain ratio difference betrween 165 to 175 (5.1-5.4, or an increase of .3 gain ratio). In other

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread William!
That's how I spec'd my Atlantis when I converted it to discs. Feels very Rivendellian in terms of maintenance, setup and fussy-ness. I think it looks Rivendellian too – in so far as most folks don't even notice. William On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 3:45:53 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > >

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread Jonathan D.
I would love a cargo/family hauler. Something like a Yuba crossed with a Clem L. I have turned my Joe into a similar bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
You're right, Bill, I assumed hydros were more expensive. But mechanicals can - as you say - use regular levers and cables, so that's how I see a disc Riv being spec'd. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Bill Lindsay
The argument that a hypothetical mechanical disc Riv would be cheaper appears to be built on the fallacy that mechanical disc brakes are less expensive than hydraulic disc brakes. They are not. Hydraulic disc brakes are super cheap and super awesome. Mechanical discs are for people who have a

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
You and me both, Joe! Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr or Appaloosa as a mtb/gravel road bicycle.

2018-02-03 Thread 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch
Doug: I have an Appaloosa and I absolutely love it. I, too, debated between a Clem and an Appaloosa. But the lugs and head badge also sold me on the Appaloosa. It will do well as a mountain bike. As far as head badges, in my (biased) opinion, I rate first: Hungapillar (coolest badge

[RBW] Fixed Gear and Crank Arm Length

2018-02-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
>From Sheldon in his essoteric gain ration post: >http://sheldonbrown.com/gain.html All things being otherwise equal ... “If the mountain bike has 175's and the road bike 170's, the gear on the mountain bike is really about 3% lower!” So, there is a 3% loss of power dropping from 175 to 170,

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
Wouldn't that be a Frank Jones Sr? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-02-03 Thread Rod Holland
I've been running RTPs, Snoqs, Barlows, and Stampedes, all EL, on a gamut of surfaces in Massachusetts, urban and rural. It's been a happy experience, few flats, no sidewall damage over thousands of miles. These tires make any bike better. To get the best out of them, keep your pressures

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com
I've an Atlantis and am very pleased with that, however... I really enjoy fixed riding, on and off road. I'd be hard-pressed to turn down a fixed-gear specific (front brake only), wide-tire clearance Riv frame. Kind of like a quickbeam, I suppose... On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 12:21:26 AM

Re: [RBW] What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread Bill Lindsay
The difference between a Samuel Hillborne and a hypothetical lugged Roadini is what? Maybe former to eight ounces in the scale? Do a light build on a Sam and Bob’s your uncle. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] FS: Woolistic wool jersey from Rivendell

2018-02-03 Thread Brad
I'm selling one of those long sleeve wool jerseys made by Woolistic. Grey with red, black, and green stripes on the torso, neck, and wrists (like this one

[RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
Kevin, if you zoom in on my Clem you can see that black threadless stem (I know it's ugly, I replaced with a nice shiney Thomson) mounted on top of a Velo-Orange quill adapter. It's this thing: https://velo-orange.com/products/vo-threadless-stem-adaptor -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread Dave Small
A Roadeo made in Taiwan, priced like a Sam or Cheviot. Or a lugged Roadini. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
What can I say, Patrick, I'm a happy customer who always wants more Riv stuff. Sometimes I'm annoying about it!  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Brooks microfiber bar tape review

2018-02-03 Thread 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch
Very nice. And you have a beautiful bike :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Re: New Sam color

2018-02-03 Thread 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch
I do love the tuxedo Sam's :} -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Fixed Gear and Crank Arm Length

2018-02-03 Thread Kainalu V.
4.8 versus 5.1 gain ratio is the leap between 165 and 175 with a 38x16. Obviously no change in gear inches, but more push needed to get those inches. On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 5:51:03 PM UTC-5, Kainalu V. wrote: > > I've got a lot of experience using levers, and I always like to use

[RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

2018-02-03 Thread Kevin Lindsey
I've been looking at the Loop for my Hunqapillar, but can't figure out how to get it onto a quill stem. I'm assuming you can't do that for a Loop, but how did you guys replace your stems with threadless ones? Thanks, Kevin Lindsey Alexandria, VA On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 1:07:01 PM

[RBW] Re: Fixed Gear and Crank Arm Length

2018-02-03 Thread Kainalu V.
I've got a lot of experience using levers, and I always like to use the longest lever I can that will fit within the confines of the job needing doing. Sounds like you need a shorter lever to stay within the confines of the job you need doing, but it'll cost you leverage. Sheldon uses crank arm

Re: [RBW] What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread Bob B
I want a [rosco] mountain mixte in my size to be my ultimate utilitarian city bike that I can ride far and load up and camp with (I was in between sizes at 89.5pbh with short arms, so, like, a 58cm with no more than 60cm virtual top tube). I'd junk it up visually but in a way I like (call it

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread drew
Yes I would. I tried to avoid disc talk in the other thread because I know how these conversations devolve and it seems like it definitely won’t happen. That said, I think Rivendell is needlessly eliminating a huge market by not at least being open to discs. A market that you can see others

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread RJM
This is an addition to my previous reply in this thread. I've ridden the same local mtb trails on my cyclocross bike (carbon Kona Jake the Snake), my Santa Cruz Hightower, and my Niner Sir9 and they all offer a different experience...I would think a Rivendell Hunqadiscer would offer a

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, Jeff. Yes, there is a lot to bike handling in addition to front fork. Grin. I also agree with you that a Grant designed disk brake bike would ride better than most all disk brake bikes. But would the change be more than Grant is willing to do? Only one person can answer that question.

Re: [RBW] What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread Melanie
I'm with Lum on a 650B Roadeo, but give me V brakes, and in dark Burgundy, please. On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 1:41:39 PM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > Canti, 650b Roadeo > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

2018-02-03 Thread Ryan Thompson
Jeremy, Your CLEM is awesome! Ryan Arlington, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Jeff Lesperance
On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Jeff said: “In general, front forks for discs appear more stout than many > boutique brand front forks that strive for a french style bend, but there's > plenty that are on par with mid-tier commodity Surly and

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
Joe said: “Btw, Grant is going to strangle me for badgering him about discs again. Sorry, Grant! ” And after he helped you get a grip (or two) too! Grin. Ducking now. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2018-02-03 Thread Jeremy Till
Now that Homers are made to order and can do custom requests, I can pretty much do it (except for the $$). It'd be a Homer with canti posts and (if I can get them to do it) a threadless fork, painted grilver. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-03 Thread Belopsky
Probably true enough for 'full time custom builders' - the nice part is that this is not true for all custom builders. Only a few of these things you list are true, others are assumptions and just plain false On Friday, February 2, 2018 at 10:04:47 AM UTC-6, phil k wrote: > > yes, prices went up

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
Makes sense, Joe. Thanks for explaining it for me. One could make the opposite arguement: that clear communication and phylosophy shapping Rivendell’s bikes’ quality ride on tried and true parts in a declining market raises one above the noise of the big guys whose strategy is far too often

[RBW] Re: New Frank Jones Senor photos on the BLUG

2018-02-03 Thread Belopsky
i havent emailed riv yet - anyone know when these are actually shipping? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

2018-02-03 Thread Jeremy Till
Here's my Clem w/ Jones loops: https://www.instagram.com/p/BZbygMVlv_a/ If you search around you can find my comments on them in other threads (including the current one about Clems and Appas as MTBs), but the short answer is they're awesome. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
Btw, Grant is going to strangle me for badgering him about discs again. Sorry, Grant!  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Clem Smith Jr or Appaloosa as a mtb/gravel road bicycle.

2018-02-03 Thread Jeremy Till
That is exactly what I use my Clem for. Here's a picture of the most recent configuration, with Jones loop bars, taken on my go-to MTB ride, the Foresthill Divide Loop in Auburn, CA: https://www.instagram.com/p/BZbygMVlv_a/ I've ridden the same loop on all types of hardtail and full

[RBW] WTB - Riv Reader #37

2018-02-03 Thread steve
Does anyone have a Riv Reader #37 they are willing to sell? I'm looking for one. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Fixed Gear and Crank Arm Length

2018-02-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
Both my Hunqapillar and Quickbeam have 175mm crank arms. Pedal strikes have been a non-issue on the roads, but I’ve had a few, slow and inconsequential, strikes on the trails. Those of you with experience (not speculation, but actual riding experience): could you please help me understand the

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