[RBW] Alternative Bars for the Clem

[Vincent Tamer]

Hello, I am proud Clem owner! It's truly a great bike for me and I am so 
glad Riv made an "affordable" bike :D


I am curious if anyone has tried a different bar setup on a Clem, 
specifically an inverted albatross. I am wondering if they are as close to 
the Boscos in comfort. 

Boscos are super comfy, but aren't the coolest lookin bars. I know that 
Clem was designed for the Boscos, I don't want to throw a wrench in the 
design just for aesthetics!



Here is my Mustard Clem in the Mustard Field:




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[RBW] Re: Dumb question- silent rear hub

[Jeffrey Arita]

Shimano Sora rear hub on our grocery getter.  Silent and smooth.  Might be 
the best value out there?

Jeff

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-8, Drw wrote:
>
> I ordered the riv budget 650b wheelset with Shimano lx hubs. They are 
> silent (ish) when spun in coasting mode. I’m guessing this is normal but 
> I’ve never had wheels that didn’t make the ratcheting sound while coasting. 
>  It’s not a sound you miss until it’s not there anymore. 
>
> Normal? 
> Not normal?

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Re: [RBW] Frank Jones brake choices

[Joe Bernard]

Yep yep, that was Will's recommendation for my Chev, too. He has a Paul Racer 
on the front of his, but he doesn't consider them any stronger than sidepulls. 
The unspoken impression I got was he thinks all the cable hanger gymnastics 
aren't worth the bother. 

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[RBW] Burrito Wrap

[Christopher Murray]

I have an unused one in the parts bin. I can dig it out this weekend if no one 
has the answer before then. 

Chris

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones brake choices

[Jeremy Tavan]

Well, looks like the rear on mine just didn't want to reach far enough. 
It's going to be 610 centerpulls for me.

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 2:08:14 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Tavan wrote:
>
> I have just picked up a set of Tektro R737 long-reach calipers for Frank. 
> On their web site they're indicated as 47-59mm reach, but when I picked up 
> the box it indicated 57mm max reach. A quick mock-up fit seems to indicate 
> that they WILL reach the rims, but I'm a little concerned and will report 
> back. If they don't work out, I'll go with Dia-Compe 610 centerpulls. I'm 
> not a huge fan of the extra-long-reach sidepulls. This is a bike where I 
> really wish they'd gone with canti brakes.
>
> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 1:48:18 PM UTC-8, nathan wrote:
>>
>> One of the interesting differences between Quickbeam/Simpleone and Frank 
>> Jones is that brake options are different (canti vs side/center pull). I'm 
>> curious: if you were to build up a Frank Jones would you go with Tektro 
>> R559 sidepull, a centerpull (eg. Dia Compe or Paul), or something else? Why?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nathan
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: free stuff, cheap stuff

[Drw]

Free lot is gone

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Re: [RBW] Frank Jones brake choices

[Nathan Spindel]

Thanks all! I also spoke without Will @ RBW today and he strongly
recommended the 559s as well. I think I’ll go that route.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 7:27 PM ted  wrote:

> I’ll probably end up with the 559s. I prefer the side pull cable route in
> the rear over using a seat lug bolt mounted cable hanger. But as rbw are
> out of stock at the moment I may start out with the mafac raid I’ve got in
> my parts stash. If you are trying to max out the tire size with fenders,
> center pull probly gives better room than dual pivot side pulls.
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[RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

[Dave Redmon]

Even quicker is using a strong, light parking band spanning the distance 
from the backside of the handlebar to the front side of the brake lever. i 
use a high quality bungee looped through a section of inner tube which I 
then slip onto the handlebar opposite my front brake lever. i don't use a 
kickstand, so when i park I lift the looped bungee over the end of the 
brake lever, which locks the brakes quite firmly and holds the entire 
bicycle rigidly against a wall or post. (I prefer to allow only the edge of 
the handlebar to touch the wall or post, eliminating frame scratches.)  I 
use a 8"-10" section of strong, high-quality bungee looped through a 
section of old inner tube a bit larger in diameter than my handlebar. Be 
sure to place the section of inner tube into the bungee loop before you 
join the ends of the bungee. . Hold opposite ends of the bungee in a 
circle, place both ends in a bench vise or vice grips, then join them by 
wrapping hemp twine tightly around the two compressed bungee ends, knotting 
as you go.. My parking bands are inconspicuous, out of the way, and have 
been in use for several years. Works on any handlebar with any type of 
brake lever. By the way, those pony tail loops found everywhere these days 
are rarely strong enough to work properly. 

Dave in Kansas  .   . 

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 9:11:48 PM UTC-6, Ian A wrote:
>
> Just lock the front brake lever. I use a toe strap. Works perfectly.
>
> IanA
>

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[RBW] Burrito Wrap

[Clayton.sf]

anyone remember the dimensions for the burrito wrap? that square piece of waxed 
cloth riv used to sell?

Best,
Clayton Scott
ST, CA

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[RBW] Re: wtb: Homer Hilsen - 59cm

[ted]

Fair enough. I’d say the most significant difference in those bikes would be 
the style of brakes and the slope of the top tube. Reasonable folks could 
easily have different preferences. Beyond that there are aesthetic differences, 
I think even between different vintages of the same model. Of course aesthetics 
and the weight one gives therm are also a personal choice.
Me, I really really like my late toyo ahh and I wouldn’t trade it for a sam and 
an appropriate cash differential.

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[RBW] Frank Jones brake choices

[ted]

I’ll probably end up with the 559s. I prefer the side pull cable route in the 
rear over using a seat lug bolt mounted cable hanger. But as rbw are out of 
stock at the moment I may start out with the mafac raid I’ve got in my parts 
stash. If you are trying to max out the tire size with fenders, center pull 
probly gives better room than dual pivot side pulls.

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[RBW] Dumb question- silent rear hub

[Kainalu V.]

I have some ultegra hubs whose silence drove me crazy! I like using my 
freewheeling sound to warn any pedestrians in the line of fire of my approach. 
I was glad when the rims wore out (from my purposely squeealy brake pads)
-Kai 
BK NY 

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[RBW] Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

[Ian A]

Just lock the front brake lever. I use a toe strap. Works perfectly.

IanA

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto M1 Mark Rack

[Lum Gim Fong]

Yes Bill. That’s the 8kg link that is currently posted by Nitto, and the one I 
saw when researching which rack to get about 4 years ago.

What I’d really like is a canti- rivbike so I can get a solid tang rack and not 
a slider like the M series.

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[RBW] Re: FS: free stuff, cheap stuff

[Drw]

flickstand is sold

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[RBW] FS: free stuff, cheap stuff

[Drw]

Some stuff that has to move along. 


-XD2- triple crank. 170mm arms. 7 out of 10 condition. lots of life left. - 
70$ shipped

-Deore rear derailler- the one riv sells. long cage. not used much but the 
cable clamp bolt is getting close to rounded. - 25$ shipped

-Tektro RL340 linear pull/ V drop bar levers- essentially new- 20$ shipped

-Shimano BR-MC70 canti's. vintage. pretty good shape. good for conversions. 
1 set. 15$ shipped

-Flickstand- for non OS downtubes. - 10$ shipped


Free for shipping lot, but you have to take all of it.  15$

-Vintage specialized bottle cage

-Zefal bottle cage

-Shimano mountain LX front derailler

-Pearl Izumi gloves

-2 700x50 ish tubes and 1 700x30 ish tube (I THINK none have holes)

-a black seatpost with scratches

-3 qr's. 2 for wheels, one for mtb binder bolt



 


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[RBW] Re: Dumb question- silent rear hub

[Joe Bernard]

Some of them had some kinda "silent clutch" type thingy. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Well, yes. That's why I used the word "tried." Although I'm not sure it was 
exactly good sense that was fully responsible for the abandonment of BB 
I do agree it was an interesting experiment. 

dougP wrote: However, Rivendell had the good sense to abandon that effort.  
Bike, Book & Hatchet was an interesting experiment.

Mark in Beacon wrote:Let's not forget that Rivendell tried something 
similar. It's difficult to be a specialty retailer, web or brick, that 
cares to one degree or another about quality, sourcing, etc.

Jon Dukeman,central Colorado wrote: Ibex had a retail store in Denver's 
Cherry Creek Shopping district. Arguably the most expensive place to open a 
brick and mortar retail store in Denver They wouldn't get much sympathy 
from me paying that high rent. Jon

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[RBW] Re: Dumb question- silent rear hub

[Drw]

Ok thanks. I’ve had maybe 6 rear Shimano hubs that at least made some sort of 
click, but these just spin. Good to know it’s all ok

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[RBW] Re: Dumb question- silent rear hub

[Dave Small]

Not sure about that specific hub---I can't remember whether my LX hub(s) 
ratchet(s) or not---but on some bikes the hub ratchets and on some it 
doesn't.  I think of both as normal.  


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[RBW] Dumb question- silent rear hub

[Bill Lindsay]

Shimano rear hubs are normally among the quietest ones you can find. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca

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[RBW] Dumb question- silent rear hub

[nash5510]

Shimano hubs are normally pretty quiet. 

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[RBW] Clem Smith Jr. H

[Doug H.]

This is a reposting of my Clem Smith Jr. H style 52 cm. It’s boxed up and ready 
to ship for $1,250. Includes a Pletscher Clem rear rack with pannier rails. 
Stock build with very few miles. Like new condition. I have decided to use my 
vintage Trek 520 to commute instead of the Clem

. https://photos.app.goo.gl/IFQhCQihikOl3TTY2

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[RBW] Dumb question- silent rear hub

[Drw]

I ordered the riv budget 650b wheelset with Shimano lx hubs. They are silent 
(ish) when spun in coasting mode. I’m guessing this is normal but I’ve never 
had wheels that didn’t make the ratcheting sound while coasting.  It’s not a 
sound you miss until it’s not there anymore. 

Normal?
Not normal?

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Saddlebag Grip quick release R50

[Andrew Letton]

Does anyone have a Nitto Saddlebag Grip quick release R50 gathering dust that 
they'd like to sell.(I know Riv has them new, but the new price is more than I 
can justify right now.)Please reply off-list. letton at flash dot 
netThanks!Andrew

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto M1 Mark Rack

[Bill Lindsay]

I hate when people respond to their own posts, and here I go...

For what it's worth, that webpage says copyright 2004 on it. 

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 3:36:56 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I found this apparently Nitto website, which claims 8kg.  Michael, you 
> don't have to prove me wrong.  I disproved my own skepticism.  
>
> http://nitto-tokyo.sakura.ne.jp/carrier-E.html
>
> So, the number does exist on the internet.  Still, I say "so what?".  The 
> Marks Rack with two struts is the identical rack.  The Marks Rack with four 
> struts is obviously much stronger. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto M1 Mark Rack

[Bill Lindsay]

I found this apparently Nitto website, which claims 8kg.  Michael, you 
don't have to prove me wrong.  I disproved my own skepticism.  

http://nitto-tokyo.sakura.ne.jp/carrier-E.html

So, the number does exist on the internet.  Still, I say "so what?".  The 
Marks Rack with two struts is the identical rack.  The Marks Rack with four 
struts is obviously much stronger. 

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 3:27:55 PM UTC-8, sameness wrote:
>
> According to page 19 of their 2018 catalog 
> , Nitto says the max payload 
> on the M18 is actually 11 lbs (5kg):
>
>
> 
>
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto M1 Mark Rack

[sameness]

According to page 19 of their 2018 catalog 
, Nitto says the max payload 
on the M18 is actually 11 lbs (5kg):




Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[John A. Bennett]

Just realized my comment/attempt at humor doesn't make sense in this digest 
format. 

He/They said:

"Let's not forget that Rivendell tried something similar"

"However, Rivendell had the good sense to abandon that effort. Bike, Book & 
Hatchet was an interesting experiment."

I said:

"Wait!What?! Now you tell us."

John at Rivelo in Portland
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

[Eric Norris]

I also have a converted Riv Road. I’m running Panaracer Gravel Kings on mine 
(marked as 38), and that’s the max tire size that will work. I tried a set of 
42m tires, and the rear rubbed on the chainstays.

--Eric N
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Campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
@Campyonlyguy


> On Mar 1, 2018, at 1:40 PM, WETH  wrote:
> 
> Hi Minh,
> Max tires size for 700 is 28.  When I converted to 650b, I fit Panaracer Col 
> de La Vie tires which are sold as 38, but I think measured closer to 36.  
> Some of my photos show the bike set up as 650b with SKS fenders.  Only parts 
> I needed to convert from 700 to 650b were the longer tektro brakes and a 
> wheel set.  (Brakes I am including work for 700 but not 650b wheels.) I  
> Depending on your crank arm length you might get some pedal strike pedaling 
> through a corner.
> Thanks for asking and hoped this helped,
> Erl
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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto M1 Mark Rack

[Bill Lindsay]

Forgive me for not taking your word for it.  Do you have a link to the 
Nitto Website that says that?  

Do you honestly think the M18 is four times stronger than the Marks Rack?  
If so, why?  

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 2:43:26 PM UTC-8, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> Bill:
> Nitto themselves say The M18 is rated at a 17lb. Two strut.
> Marks is only 4 lbs (2 struts) per Riv description, 6 (with 4 struts) per 
> Riv employee, either dave kevin ir will. Forgot which one tild me that.. 
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto M1 Mark Rack

[Lum Gim Fong]

Bill:
Nitto themselves say The M18 is rated at a 17lb. Two strut.
Marks is only 4 lbs (2 struts) per Riv description, 6 (with 4 struts) per Riv 
employee, either dave kevin ir will. Forgot which one tild me that.. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Patrick Moore]

" ... rich and broadly used ..." and dominant and now arrogant and
totalitarian ... The new Microsoft.

Patrick Moore, who uses Apple products because Word (which he needs for
work; no, Abiword or whatever won't do) won't work with Ubuntu, more's the
pity, and he doesn't want to use Windows. (And once my paid-off ATT iPhone
5s becomes obsolete, I'm going to buy a $150 generic "smart" phone.)


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> Early Apple, maybe.  Now they are so rich and broadly used that I doubt
people would care to support them.

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[RBW] ISO: Carradice SQR clamps for >32 mm post

[Patrick Moore]

Does anyone have an unused pair? I can trade a pair of the =< 32 mm clamps,
new, unused. Or I can pay or trade something.

I'd rather not send to England for a pair and, besides, SJS seems no longer
to list them in the larger size. I bought a pair of the >32mm size from SJS
for the Dahon's seat mast, and I want to try to take another pair apart to
install them on the steering mast, for SQRs front and rear (and wouldn't
that be keen?).

Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

[Patrick Moore]

Tim answered my question.

And it won't fit my Dahon anyway.

But back to the VO and other spring devices (I like the VO because the
clamp is plastic): do these work with a floppy fork with a heavy-ish front
load? I just rode back from Sprout's with 23 lb in front lowriders on what
I assume is a mid-trail Rivendell; floppiness tended to occur (so to
speak). Would one of these spring things keep 23 lb from flopping around,
yet not interfere with handling?

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Now that would be useful. But does it involve a proprietary headset, or is
> it something that can be used with other headsets?
>
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Tom Wyland  wrote:
>
>> This is what it looks like. It was installed on my Torker Cargo T. I
>> can't find it in any searches, but that doesn't mean you still can't get
>> get it from one of the bike supply catalogs.
>> They apparently had these on some older bikes pre-1970s. It's just a
>> spring-loaded pawl that engages like a ratchet and makes turning difficult.
>> It can also lock the handlebars slightly askew... helpful on sloped
>> surfaces.
>>
>>  http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/shimano-locking-
>> headset/rp-prod33075
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 4:56:54 PM UTC-5, Drw wrote:
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>>> Where does one find a headset with the anti flop blocking part?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

[Patrick Moore]

Now that would be useful. But does it involve a proprietary headset, or is
it something that can be used with other headsets?

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Tom Wyland  wrote:

> This is what it looks like. It was installed on my Torker Cargo T. I can't
> find it in any searches, but that doesn't mean you still can't get get it
> from one of the bike supply catalogs.
> They apparently had these on some older bikes pre-1970s. It's just a
> spring-loaded pawl that engages like a ratchet and makes turning difficult.
> It can also lock the handlebars slightly askew... helpful on sloped
> surfaces.
>
>  http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/shimano-locking-headset/rp-
> prod33075
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 4:56:54 PM UTC-5, Drw wrote:
>>
>> Where does one find a headset with the anti flop blocking part?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

[Tim Gavin]

Neat!  Looks like it can be ordered from European sources:
https://www.xxcycle.com/shimano-nexus-headset-thread-with-lock-ihpnx10b,,en.php


On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Tom Wyland  wrote:

> This is what it looks like. It was installed on my Torker Cargo T. I can't
> find it in any searches, but that doesn't mean you still can't get get it
> from one of the bike supply catalogs.
> They apparently had these on some older bikes pre-1970s. It's just a
> spring-loaded pawl that engages like a ratchet and makes turning difficult.
> It can also lock the handlebars slightly askew... helpful on sloped
> surfaces.
>
>  http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/shimano-locking-headset/rp-
> prod33075
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 4:56:54 PM UTC-5, Drw wrote:
>>
>> Where does one find a headset with the anti flop blocking part?
>>
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[RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

[Tom Wyland]

This is what it looks like. It was installed on my Torker Cargo T. I can't 
find it in any searches, but that doesn't mean you still can't get get it 
from one of the bike supply catalogs.
They apparently had these on some older bikes pre-1970s. It's just a 
spring-loaded pawl that engages like a ratchet and makes turning difficult. 
It can also lock the handlebars slightly askew... helpful on sloped 
surfaces.

 http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/shimano-locking-headset/rp-prod33075




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> Where does one find a headset with the anti flop blocking part?
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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones brake choices

[Jeremy Tavan]

I have just picked up a set of Tektro R737 long-reach calipers for Frank. 
On their web site they're indicated as 47-59mm reach, but when I picked up 
the box it indicated 57mm max reach. A quick mock-up fit seems to indicate 
that they WILL reach the rims, but I'm a little concerned and will report 
back. If they don't work out, I'll go with Dia-Compe 610 centerpulls. I'm 
not a huge fan of the extra-long-reach sidepulls. This is a bike where I 
really wish they'd gone with canti brakes.

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 1:48:18 PM UTC-8, nathan wrote:
>
> One of the interesting differences between Quickbeam/Simpleone and Frank 
> Jones is that brake options are different (canti vs side/center pull). I'm 
> curious: if you were to build up a Frank Jones would you go with Tektro 
> R559 sidepull, a centerpull (eg. Dia Compe or Paul), or something else? Why?
>
> Thanks,
> Nathan
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Re: [RBW] Frank Jones brake choices

[Tim Gavin]

Depends on whether you intend to run fenders.  Centerpull brakes have
better fender clearance than R559 sidepulls.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:48 PM, nathan  wrote:

> One of the interesting differences between Quickbeam/Simpleone and Frank
> Jones is that brake options are different (canti vs side/center pull). I'm
> curious: if you were to build up a Frank Jones would you go with Tektro
> R559 sidepull, a centerpull (eg. Dia Compe or Paul), or something else? Why?
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Front Racks - 32f & M18

[David B]

32f is sold.

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 3:13:32 PM UTC-6, David B wrote:
>
> I started cleaning out my garage the other day. Way too much stuff sitting 
> around without a bike to call home.
> Starting with a couple Nitto racks.
>
> Nitto Campee 32f - the one Riv sells as the 'mini-front', lighty used, 
> nice condition - $100 shipped
>
> Nitto M18 Rack - lightly used, 2-strut version - $80 shipped
>
> I *think* I have Nitto p-clamps that I can include with either rack.
>
> Paypal for payment please. Regular goods/services is fine.
> Contact offlist if you can.
> Thanks!
> David
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[RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

[Drw]

Where does one find a headset with the anti flop blocking part?

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[RBW] Frank Jones brake choices

[nathan]

One of the interesting differences between Quickbeam/Simpleone and Frank 
Jones is that brake options are different (canti vs side/center pull). I'm 
curious: if you were to build up a Frank Jones would you go with Tektro 
R559 sidepull, a centerpull (eg. Dia Compe or Paul), or something else? Why?

Thanks,
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

[WETH]

Hi Minh,
Max tires size for 700 is 28.  When I converted to 650b, I fit Panaracer Col de 
La Vie tires which are sold as 38, but I think measured closer to 36.  Some of 
my photos show the bike set up as 650b with SKS fenders.  Only parts I needed 
to convert from 700 to 650b were the longer tektro brakes and a wheel set.  
(Brakes I am including work for 700 but not 650b wheels.) I  Depending on your 
crank arm length you might get some pedal strike pedaling through a corner.
Thanks for asking and hoped this helped,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: FS - Paul SS wheels, Tires, e-lever, Phil BB, Silca floor pump etc

[Howard Ramsay]

Marty, I would like to purchase the DIA COMPE brake levers please.
I have never bought an item via a forum before, so please advise me how to 
accomplish the transction.
Best regards, Howard Ramsay

On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 4:08:05 AM UTC-6, MartyG wrote:
>
> Thanks to all the buyers, here's my updated list:
>
>
> Paul e-lever. Polished. $30 shipped.
 Rhode Gear mirror - the cool one everyone wants for old school drop 
 bars/levers. $25 shipped
 Roc Shox 27.2 seatpost. $15 shipped. 
 Ritchey 120mm threadless stem. 10 degrees rise or so, but can be used 
 both ways. $15 shipped. 
 Dia Compe brake levers. Old school full-fist-o-fingers type. $15 
 shipped. 
 Zefal HP frame pump. Silver. 19" uncompressed end to end. 18.25 
 compressed. $15 shipped. 

 Pics here:


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

[Tim Gavin]

You'd need long-reach brake calipers (Tektro R559, Paul Racer, MAFAC Raid,
or Weinmann/DC centerpull) and 650b wheels to convert this bike to 650b.

My '97 Road Standard has tighter clearances than many (700 x 28 is tight),
and it clears a 650 x 38.  Others, with more generous tire clearance, have
successfully fit 650 x 42 tires.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Minh  wrote:

> Hi Erl,
>
> I know you've posted in the past, but what's the max tire size for 700C?
> what about if you switch it to 650B?  what parts would you need to take it
> to 650B?
>
> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 2:29:24 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
>>
>> Update: Frame/Fork/Headset/assorted additional parts still available;
>> complete bike is no longer for sale.
>>
>> FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm-f/f/hs plus additional parts listed below.
>> $850 shipped or $800 local pick-up. PayPal please.
>>
>> Parts also included with f/f/hs:
>> -Set of Tektro 559 brakes
>> -One Paul racer medium brake for rear wheel
>> -Paul rear brake hanger
>> -BB un55 107mm
>> -Nitto noodles 46cm
>> -Crankset: sugino wide low double;170 crank length
>> -Sykes custom wood fenders for 700x28 tires
>> -700c wheelset: 36hole Mavic A319 with Shimano Tiagra hubs (130 rear
>> spacing)
>> -Tires 700x28 Ruffy Tuffy
>>
>> Frame Details:
>> Headset: Campagnolo record
>> Spectrum Tom Kellogg paint job is gorgeous!
>> Frame is in good condition: two notable issues--a bulge in the headtube
>> under the headbadge with a corresponding paint chip and one scuff in the
>> clear coat on the top tube.
>>
>> Frame measurements:
>> -56cm c-c seat tube,
>> -57.5cm c-c top tube.
>> -standover (with 700x28 tires) is 81cm.
>> -Headtube 14.8 (end-end including extension but not headset stack or
>> spacers)
>> -Wheelbase: 100.5cm
>> -Chainstay c-c: 42.5
>> -Rear spacing:130
>> -Seatpost 27.2
>> -Front derailleur clamp size: 28.6
>>
>> Pictures here, but please note the complete bike is not for sale, only
>> the f/f/hs and additional parts listed above: 
>> *https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157646658697853
>> *
>>
>> I am happy to provide other measurements and photos. (For photo reference
>> I have a 75-76 cm saddle height and 86cm PBH)
>>
>> I am not parting components out at this time.
>>
>> Just the Frame/fork/headset/fenders: $750 shipped or $700 local pickup,
>> Washington, DC.  PayPal please.
>>
>> Happy to provide more pics and to answer questions. Please reply off list.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Erl
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

[Minh]

Hi Erl,

I know you've posted in the past, but what's the max tire size for 700C?  
what about if you switch it to 650B?  what parts would you need to take it 
to 650B?

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 2:29:24 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
>
> Update: Frame/Fork/Headset/assorted additional parts still available; 
> complete bike is no longer for sale.
>
> FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm-f/f/hs plus additional parts listed below.
> $850 shipped or $800 local pick-up. PayPal please.
>
> Parts also included with f/f/hs:
> -Set of Tektro 559 brakes
> -One Paul racer medium brake for rear wheel
> -Paul rear brake hanger
> -BB un55 107mm
> -Nitto noodles 46cm
> -Crankset: sugino wide low double;170 crank length
> -Sykes custom wood fenders for 700x28 tires
> -700c wheelset: 36hole Mavic A319 with Shimano Tiagra hubs (130 rear 
> spacing)
> -Tires 700x28 Ruffy Tuffy
>
> Frame Details:
> Headset: Campagnolo record
> Spectrum Tom Kellogg paint job is gorgeous!
> Frame is in good condition: two notable issues--a bulge in the headtube 
> under the headbadge with a corresponding paint chip and one scuff in the 
> clear coat on the top tube.
>
> Frame measurements:
> -56cm c-c seat tube,
> -57.5cm c-c top tube.
> -standover (with 700x28 tires) is 81cm. 
> -Headtube 14.8 (end-end including extension but not headset stack or 
> spacers)
> -Wheelbase: 100.5cm
> -Chainstay c-c: 42.5
> -Rear spacing:130
> -Seatpost 27.2
> -Front derailleur clamp size: 28.6
>
> Pictures here, but please note the complete bike is not for sale, only the 
> f/f/hs and additional parts listed above: 
> *https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157646658697853 
> *
>
> I am happy to provide other measurements and photos. (For photo reference 
> I have a 75-76 cm saddle height and 86cm PBH)
>
> I am not parting components out at this time. 
>
> Just the Frame/fork/headset/fenders: $750 shipped or $700 local pickup, 
> Washington, DC.  PayPal please.
>
> Happy to provide more pics and to answer questions. Please reply off list.
>
> Thanks,
> Erl
>
>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

[Dave]

I've been using a Hebie Wheel Stabilizer on my 55 cheviot for a while, and 
aside from the occasional need to reinstall some protection under the 
downtube metal strap, it's been 
solid: http://www.hebie.de/en/parking/stand-accessories/steer-damper/695/

I believe I found mine on ebay, and while it's nearly identical to the VO 
model, I like the metal downtube bit vs. the plastic downtube bit.

Dave

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 11:59:53 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> I have a Sanyo BB generator just aft of the bb. Also, FWIW, I've found 
> that at least the VO and the Pletscher 2-leggers don't hold up asymmetrical 
> rear loads well (a cheap Greenfield dropout-attached stand worked better, 
> when I tried it), though on the Dahon I have a Camper LF rear and (soon) a 
> Nelson LF front. 
>
> If I install a hub dynamo, I will probably once again experiment with a 2 
> legged stand.
>
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Dave S  
> wrote:
>
>> Dual leg kickstand.  The bike will balance on three point depending on 
>> rear/front load.  Also the bike is perpendicular to the ground compare to a 
>> traditional one leg leaning stand so it tends to be less wobbly.
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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto M1 Mark Rack

[nicholas tingey]

Found one. Love this group. Thanks to everyone for reaching out! 

As to the discussion between the m1 & m18. I went with the M1 because in 
can be used as a rear rack or front. I should have mentioned that. I'm 
planning to use it for a saddle bag I'm making to store clothes in on my 
trip around Japan next month. 

All the best,
Nick 



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>
> Rivendell are currently all sold out & won't have them back in stock 
> before my trip to Japan next month. If anyone has one, I would love to 
> purchase it from you. I'm in SF (Nob Hill) but can travel around the bay or 
> pay shipping. 
>
> Cheers! 
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[RBW] FS: Nitto Front Racks - 32f & M18

[David B]

I started cleaning out my garage the other day. Way too much stuff sitting 
around without a bike to call home.
Starting with a couple Nitto racks.

Nitto Campee 32f - the one Riv sells as the 'mini-front', lighty used, nice 
condition - $100 shipped

Nitto M18 Rack - lightly used, 2-strut version - $80 shipped

I *think* I have Nitto p-clamps that I can include with either rack.

Paypal for payment please. Regular goods/services is fine.
Contact offlist if you can.
Thanks!
David

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[R Shannon]

Steve, 

Just a guess: Brian Tester former Riv staffer and mechanic.

Best,
Richard



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> On Mar 1, 2018, at 3:48 PM, John A. Bennett  wrote:
> 
> Wait! What?! Now you tell us.
> 
> John at Rivelo in Portland
> 
>> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 9:18:17 AM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>> "Let's not forget that Rivendell tried something similar"
>> 
>> However, Rivendell had the good sense to abandon that effort.  Bike, Book & 
>> Hatchet was an interesting experiment.
>> 
>> dougP
>> 
>>> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 7:22:52 AM UTC-8, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>> Let's not forget that Rivendell tried something similar. It's difficult to 
>>> be a specialty retailer, web or brick, that cares to one degree or another 
>>> about quality, sourcing, etc.
>>> 
 On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 10:11:36 AM UTC-5, Jon Dukeman,central 
 Colorado wrote:
 Steve
 Ibex had a retail store in Denver's Cherry Creek Shopping district. 
 Arguably the most expensive place to open a brick and mortar retail store 
 in Denver 
 They wouldn't get much sympathy from me paying that high rent. 
 Jon
 
 On Mar 1, 2018 7:56 AM, "Steven Sweedler"  wrote:
 I wonder if Ibex tried something like this what the response would have 
 been, rather than folding. Steve
 
 On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:38 PM Dave Small  wrote:
> This was remarkable to watch, and I'm glad I was able to participate.  
> I've tried to think of another business that would have been able to pull 
> this off, and was unable to.  I talked to Roman last week about an order 
> I'd placed and during the conversation he mentioned that the response was 
> better than they'd expected, and I told him that Riv's customer base was 
> narrow but was deep and loyal.   
> 
> Can anyone else think of another business with the kind of base that 
> would have responded the way Riv's did?  I'm truly curious.  There must 
> be some, but I can't think of any.  
> 
> Dave
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[John A. Bennett]

Wait! *What*?! *Now* you tell us.

John at Rivelo in Portland

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 9:18:17 AM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>
> "Let's not forget that Rivendell tried something similar"
>
> However, Rivendell had the good sense to abandon that effort.  Bike, Book 
> & Hatchet was an interesting experiment.
>
> dougP
>
> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 7:22:52 AM UTC-8, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>
>> Let's not forget that Rivendell tried something similar. It's difficult 
>> to be a specialty retailer, web or brick, that cares to one degree or 
>> another about quality, sourcing, etc.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 10:11:36 AM UTC-5, Jon Dukeman,central 
>> Colorado wrote:
>>>
>>> Steve
>>> Ibex had a retail store in Denver's Cherry Creek Shopping district. 
>>> Arguably the most expensive place to open a brick and mortar retail store 
>>> in Denver 
>>> They wouldn't get much sympathy from me paying that high rent. 
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> On Mar 1, 2018 7:56 AM, "Steven Sweedler"  wrote:
>>>
>>> I wonder if Ibex tried something like this what the response would have 
>>> been, rather than folding. Steve
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:38 PM Dave Small  wrote:
>>>
 This was remarkable to watch, and I'm glad I was able to participate.  
 I've tried to think of another business that would have been able to pull 
 this off, and was unable to.  I talked to Roman last week about an order 
 I'd placed and during the conversation he mentioned that the response was 
 better than they'd expected, and I told him that Riv's customer base was 
 narrow but was deep and loyal.   

 Can anyone else think of another business with the kind of base that 
 would have responded the way Riv's did?  I'm truly curious.  There must be 
 some, but I can't think of any.  

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[George Schick]

Matt - not to mention that the quality of their products seems to have 
suffered since Jobs died.  At least that's been my experience.

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 11:44:48 AM UTC-6, Matt Beecher wrote:
>
> Early Apple, maybe.  Now they are so rich and broadly used that I doubt 
> people would care to support them.  
>
> Matt B.  
>
> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 8:38:08 AM UTC-6, Dave Small wrote:
>>
>> This was remarkable to watch, and I'm glad I was able to participate. 
>>  I've tried to think of another business that would have been able to pull 
>> this off, and was unable to.  I talked to Roman last week about an order 
>> I'd placed and during the conversation he mentioned that the response was 
>> better than they'd expected, and I told him that Riv's customer base was 
>> narrow but was deep and loyal.   
>>
>> Can anyone else think of another business with the kind of base that 
>> would have responded the way Riv's did?  I'm truly curious.  There must be 
>> some, but I can't think of any.  
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[stevef]

Glad to see Grant's email that things worked out better than he expected.  
Just curious-anyone know who "BT Brian," is?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

[Patrick Moore]

I have a Sanyo BB generator just aft of the bb. Also, FWIW, I've found that
at least the VO and the Pletscher 2-leggers don't hold up asymmetrical rear
loads well (a cheap Greenfield dropout-attached stand worked better, when I
tried it), though on the Dahon I have a Camper LF rear and (soon) a Nelson
LF front.

If I install a hub dynamo, I will probably once again experiment with a 2
legged stand.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Dave S  wrote:

> Dual leg kickstand.  The bike will balance on three point depending on
> rear/front load.  Also the bike is perpendicular to the ground compare to a
> traditional one leg leaning stand so it tends to be less wobbly.
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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto M1 Mark Rack

[Todd Porter]

The soma store carries them, but they are a little more expensive than at 
Rivendell.  http://store.somafab.com/nimamira.html

On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 11:21:44 PM UTC-6, nicholas tingey wrote:
>
> Rivendell are currently all sold out & won't have them back in stock 
> before my trip to Japan next month. If anyone has one, I would love to 
> purchase it from you. I'm in SF (Nob Hill) but can travel around the bay or 
> pay shipping. 
>
> Cheers! 
>

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[RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

[Dave S]

Dual leg kickstand.  The bike will balance on three point depending on 
rear/front load.  Also the bike is perpendicular to the ground compare to a 
traditional one leg leaning stand so it tends to be less wobbly.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

[WETH]

Update: Frame/Fork/Headset/assorted additional parts still available; 
complete bike is no longer for sale.

FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm-f/f/hs plus additional parts listed below.
$850 shipped or $800 local pick-up. PayPal please.

Parts also included with f/f/hs:
-Set of Tektro 559 brakes
-One Paul racer medium brake for rear wheel
-Paul rear brake hanger
-BB un55 107mm
-Nitto noodles 46cm
-Crankset: sugino wide low double;170 crank length
-Sykes custom wood fenders for 700x28 tires
-700c wheelset: 36hole Mavic A319 with Shimano Tiagra hubs (130 rear 
spacing)
-Tires 700x28 Ruffy Tuffy

Frame Details:
Headset: Campagnolo record
Spectrum Tom Kellogg paint job is gorgeous!
Frame is in good condition: two notable issues--a bulge in the headtube 
under the headbadge with a corresponding paint chip and one scuff in the 
clear coat on the top tube.

Frame measurements:
-56cm c-c seat tube,
-57.5cm c-c top tube.
-standover (with 700x28 tires) is 81cm. 
-Headtube 14.8 (end-end including extension but not headset stack or 
spacers)
-Wheelbase: 100.5cm
-Chainstay c-c: 42.5
-Rear spacing:130
-Seatpost 27.2
-Front derailleur clamp size: 28.6

Pictures here, but please note the complete bike is not for sale, only the 
f/f/hs and additional parts listed above: 
*https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157646658697853 
*

I am happy to provide other measurements and photos. (For photo reference I 
have a 75-76 cm saddle height and 86cm PBH)

I am not parting components out at this time. 

Just the Frame/fork/headset/fenders: $750 shipped or $700 local pickup, 
Washington, DC.  PayPal please.

Happy to provide more pics and to answer questions. Please reply off list.

Thanks,
Erl


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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Matt Beecher]

Early Apple, maybe.  Now they are so rich and broadly used that I doubt 
people would care to support them.  

Matt B.  

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 8:38:08 AM UTC-6, Dave Small wrote:
>
> This was remarkable to watch, and I'm glad I was able to participate. 
>  I've tried to think of another business that would have been able to pull 
> this off, and was unable to.  I talked to Roman last week about an order 
> I'd placed and during the conversation he mentioned that the response was 
> better than they'd expected, and I told him that Riv's customer base was 
> narrow but was deep and loyal.   
>
> Can anyone else think of another business with the kind of base that would 
> have responded the way Riv's did?  I'm truly curious.  There must be some, 
> but I can't think of any.  
>
> Dave
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Bob Lovejoy]

I miss Ibex and am grateful for each and every one of their items I bought 
over the years, be that online or on Ebay or wherever.  I never quite 
warmed up (so to speak) to their more formal shirts and I know sizing could 
be tricky with pants and such.  There were more misses in their execution 
than I would have liked but when they got it right, it was perfect, perfect 
for me anyway.  Their jackets and vests were especially good.  I miss 
them...  

I think on the store front issue, in Denver anyway, they took a chance and 
lost.  Their store was positioned, as I remember it, in a line of pricey 
but things-in-common types of stores, including an Arc'teryx store (of all 
things) on the high end, and an Eddie Bauer at the lower end.  I think they 
were just trying to get in front of people who might have the funds to 
support the business model.  We take our chances...

I do agree that their normal prices were probably too high - and the sales 
a little too often.  They probably should have found a lower-middle ground 
on pricing and held that ground a bit better.  That is something of a 
lesson for most businesses, especially these days.

Bike and Riv content... I rode my Appaloosa the other day in my lightweight 
but tough and windproof Ibex jacket, that over one of their amazing 
Woolaire vests.  Both bike and clothes were absolutely perfect...

Bob Lovejoy
Galesburg, IL

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[dougP]

"Let's not forget that Rivendell tried something similar"

However, Rivendell had the good sense to abandon that effort.  Bike, Book & 
Hatchet was an interesting experiment.

dougP

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 7:22:52 AM UTC-8, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Let's not forget that Rivendell tried something similar. It's difficult to 
> be a specialty retailer, web or brick, that cares to one degree or another 
> about quality, sourcing, etc.
>
> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 10:11:36 AM UTC-5, Jon Dukeman,central 
> Colorado wrote:
>>
>> Steve
>> Ibex had a retail store in Denver's Cherry Creek Shopping district. 
>> Arguably the most expensive place to open a brick and mortar retail store 
>> in Denver 
>> They wouldn't get much sympathy from me paying that high rent. 
>> Jon
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2018 7:56 AM, "Steven Sweedler"  wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if Ibex tried something like this what the response would have 
>> been, rather than folding. Steve
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:38 PM Dave Small  wrote:
>>
>>> This was remarkable to watch, and I'm glad I was able to participate.  
>>> I've tried to think of another business that would have been able to pull 
>>> this off, and was unable to.  I talked to Roman last week about an order 
>>> I'd placed and during the conversation he mentioned that the response was 
>>> better than they'd expected, and I told him that Riv's customer base was 
>>> narrow but was deep and loyal.   
>>>
>>> Can anyone else think of another business with the kind of base that 
>>> would have responded the way Riv's did?  I'm truly curious.  There must be 
>>> some, but I can't think of any.  
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
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[RBW] WTB: Brooks C17 Carved (Slate/Black)

[Bob Keal]

Hi Folks,

I'm looking to buy a slate or black C17 carved. Doesn't need to be a
show-piece.

Please PM with any offers. Thanks!

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto M1 Mark Rack

[Bill Lindsay]

In my humble opinion, it is completely obvious that the Marks Rack with TWO 
platform struts is identical to the M18 in load capacity.  It is also 
obvious to me that the Marks Rack with FOUR platform struts is much much 
stronger than the M18 as it pertains to load capacity.  The fact that 
Vendor A says one load capacity for the Marks Rack and Vendor B says 
something much greater for the M18 tells me NOTHING about the racks and 
EVERYTHING about the two vendors.  Rivendell likes you more and cares more 
about your safety than they do about your money.  Whoever says the M18 is 
three to four times stronger than the Marks Rack cares more about selling 
you something and less about you. In my humble opinion.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 10:32:29 PM UTC-8, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> The M18 is rated at a 17lb load the Marks is only 4 lbs (2 struts), 6 
> (with 4 struts). But they look like the same rack structurally, except the 
> Marks has the tab in the front and an extra set of eyelets. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Steven Sweedler]

I should have added that my relationship with Ibex was based  on their
annual sale. Very friendly employees and reasonable prices, never have been
to one of their retail shops. Steve

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 5:23 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I don't think Ibex had that kind of following, and they were doomed by
> their constant fire-sale promotions. Did you ever pay full pop for Ibex
> stuff? I know I didn't.
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[RBW] Re: Analog Cycles w(Right) stem write up

[James / Analog Cycles]

Bike Radar just posted an article about our w(right) stem project:  
http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/article/analog-cycles-0-30mm-stem-51838/

On Monday, February 26, 2018 at 6:30:25 PM UTC-5, James / Analog Cycles 
wrote:
>
> Hey Gang, James from Analog Cycles, formerly the Co-Owner at Gravel & 
> Grind here.  We have some interesting projects in the works that are highly 
> Riv oriented.  Hope you'll take the time to check them out.  Also: for 
> right now, we're the DC area Rivendell dealer.  Wanna get a Riv?  We'll set 
> you up.  We have a few Chev frames and Roadini frames in stock, and we can 
> get ya whatever Rivendell has, and save you the shipping + help with build 
> outs and fitting.  In late spring, we're moving Analog to Vermont, but 
> we're in Frederick for a few more months!
>
>
> We have a new entry up on the Analog journal: w(Right) Stem Write Up  
> which details our recent stem project.
>
>
> 
>
>
> It's about super short reach stems, the benefits, the history and the 
> future.  We've been riding the prototypes for a while, but they're about to 
> go into low scale production.  Check it out when ya get a sec. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Tom. I see that the Eco 3 had what looks like a molded aluminum
frame; my Hon Solo has a steel tube "backbone", 39 mm IIRC, and a VO model
ought to fit that. As for room at the bottom of the headset, I think
there's room; so the question remains whether it really works to keep the
wheel from flopping.

I use the Hon Solo as a grocery getter, and it does have a particularly
floppy front wheel.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:22 AM, Tom Wyland  wrote:

> I have one of the VO spring stabilizers and it's a tight fit on some bikes
> at the bottom of the headset. It didn't fit the bike I intended to use it
> on.  I also have a Dahon and I don't think it would fit (it's an Eco 3).
>
> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 11:08:20 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Kiley: How does the VO "flickstand" work in real life? I see it comes in
>> a model suitable for large tubes, so it will fit on my Dahon. I'll buy one
>> if they are effective.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Kiley DeMond  wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, is this one near and dear to my heart! I am just a jump on, jump off
>>> kinda gal, so all the fiddly solutions were not going to work long term for
>>> me. I bought a Flickstand off eBay before I installed fenders, so that
>>> lasted about a month (still have it for sale if anyone is interested). As
>>> of right now my 60cm Cheviot, aka Heidi, is sporting the Velo Orange
>>> solution which works pretty well. I did go to the hardware store and
>>> purchase the same spring in silver and I am working on a replacement spring
>>> cover in an appropriate color as Heidi doesn't look good in black.
>>>
>>> P.S. I use an Axa frame lock to further facilitate the 'jump on, jump
>>> off' way and the bike is heavy enough, no one is slinging it over their
>>> shoulder and running off, at least where I live.
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 12:46:24 PM UTC-7, Ash wrote:

 Happy Friday everyone!

 Today my Appa made its first 24 mile commute to work, with my laptop
 bag and bunch of other things in the front on Mark's rack/Wald's basket
 combo.

 With all that weight in the front, keeping the bike stable while not
 moving was a big problem.  This is because the steering mechanism would
 turn all the way to the right or left, causing the bike to move and fall.

 Perhaps the solution is to somehow lock the front wheel to the down
 tube.  Quick search on the inter webs told me that there used to be
 something called Flickstand.  It doesn't exist anymore.

 How do you folks deal with this situation?  Velcro the wheel to down
 tube maybe?  Is there a better option?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Joe Bernard]

I don't think Ibex had that kind of following, and they were doomed by their 
constant fire-sale promotions. Did you ever pay full pop for Ibex stuff? I know 
I didn't. 

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe G-One Speed tire & Atlantis

[Kellie]

So my Atlantis was produced in "16. A 51 cm with 26" wheels. I've also had 
Thunder Burts mounted; they're 2.1.

On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 3:22:28 PM UTC-8, Matt Beecher wrote:
>
> The Rivendell website lists these as going on an Atlantis, but it also 
> says that the widest tire an Atlantis can take is 55mm, while these are 
> 60mm.  Has anyone tried them on an Atlantis?  If so, can you give a ride 
> report?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt B.
> Oswego, IL
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Re: [RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

[Tom Wyland]

I have one of the VO spring stabilizers and it's a tight fit on some bikes 
at the bottom of the headset. It didn't fit the bike I intended to use it 
on.  I also have a Dahon and I don't think it would fit (it's an Eco 3).

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 11:08:20 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Kiley: How does the VO "flickstand" work in real life? I see it comes in a 
> model suitable for large tubes, so it will fit on my Dahon. I'll buy one if 
> they are effective.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Kiley DeMond  > wrote:
>
>> Oh, is this one near and dear to my heart! I am just a jump on, jump off 
>> kinda gal, so all the fiddly solutions were not going to work long term for 
>> me. I bought a Flickstand off eBay before I installed fenders, so that 
>> lasted about a month (still have it for sale if anyone is interested). As 
>> of right now my 60cm Cheviot, aka Heidi, is sporting the Velo Orange 
>> solution which works pretty well. I did go to the hardware store and 
>> purchase the same spring in silver and I am working on a replacement spring 
>> cover in an appropriate color as Heidi doesn't look good in black. 
>>
>> P.S. I use an Axa frame lock to further facilitate the 'jump on, jump 
>> off' way and the bike is heavy enough, no one is slinging it over their 
>> shoulder and running off, at least where I live.
>>
>> On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 12:46:24 PM UTC-7, Ash wrote:
>>>
>>> Happy Friday everyone!
>>>
>>> Today my Appa made its first 24 mile commute to work, with my laptop bag 
>>> and bunch of other things in the front on Mark's rack/Wald's basket combo.
>>>
>>> With all that weight in the front, keeping the bike stable while not 
>>> moving was a big problem.  This is because the steering mechanism would 
>>> turn all the way to the right or left, causing the bike to move and fall.   
>>>
>>> Perhaps the solution is to somehow lock the front wheel to the down 
>>> tube.  Quick search on the inter webs told me that there used to be 
>>> something called Flickstand.  It doesn't exist anymore.
>>>
>>> How do you folks deal with this situation?  Velcro the wheel to down 
>>> tube maybe?  Is there a better option?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

[Patrick Moore]

Kiley: How does the VO "flickstand" work in real life? I see it comes in a
model suitable for large tubes, so it will fit on my Dahon. I'll buy one if
they are effective.

Thanks.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Kiley DeMond  wrote:

> Oh, is this one near and dear to my heart! I am just a jump on, jump off
> kinda gal, so all the fiddly solutions were not going to work long term for
> me. I bought a Flickstand off eBay before I installed fenders, so that
> lasted about a month (still have it for sale if anyone is interested). As
> of right now my 60cm Cheviot, aka Heidi, is sporting the Velo Orange
> solution which works pretty well. I did go to the hardware store and
> purchase the same spring in silver and I am working on a replacement spring
> cover in an appropriate color as Heidi doesn't look good in black.
>
> P.S. I use an Axa frame lock to further facilitate the 'jump on, jump off'
> way and the bike is heavy enough, no one is slinging it over their shoulder
> and running off, at least where I live.
>
> On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 12:46:24 PM UTC-7, Ash wrote:
>>
>> Happy Friday everyone!
>>
>> Today my Appa made its first 24 mile commute to work, with my laptop bag
>> and bunch of other things in the front on Mark's rack/Wald's basket combo.
>>
>> With all that weight in the front, keeping the bike stable while not
>> moving was a big problem.  This is because the steering mechanism would
>> turn all the way to the right or left, causing the bike to move and fall.
>>
>> Perhaps the solution is to somehow lock the front wheel to the down
>> tube.  Quick search on the inter webs told me that there used to be
>> something called Flickstand.  It doesn't exist anymore.
>>
>> How do you folks deal with this situation?  Velcro the wheel to down tube
>> maybe?  Is there a better option?
>>
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[RBW] Re: wtb: Homer Hilsen - 59cm

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I do not know for a fact if the Hilsen and the Hilborne share the same 
tubing, but based on the catalog copy, the Hilsen leaning road and the 
Hilborne leaning fire road gravel grind, I assume the Sam has a beefier 
fork for sure, and probably other more substantial frame tubing as well. 
If, as I suspect is true of many, most of the OP's miles are on pavement 
and some hard pack, and not multi-day rides laden with supplies on rutted 
dirt and trails, a Hilsen would be sweet and plenty versatile enough.

I think it comes down to, you either believe and/or experience tubing 
diameters and thicknesses, or, perhaps, the weight of a given frameset, has 
a noticeable effect on ride quality, or you don't. At some point in the 
spectrum, of course, it does. Where in that spectrum a particular rider is 
able to discern the difference is the issue (as well as how much it 
matters; to me, these days, less and less.) Sure build will affect things. 
My Treklantis weighs in the neighborhood of 36 pounds with racks, bags, 
fenders, lights, tools, water bottle. But even without all that, it has a 
different ride quality than my 1980s sport touring Kuwahara did. Almost 
identical geos (the Trekendell being almost identical to an Atlantis), but 
different tubesets. The Trek (a 1990s Mulltitrack 750, aka Trek 520 in 
another life, now sporting 26" wheels and a Riv fork) is lugged OS and the 
Kuwahara Ishiwata 022. But in terms of how a build affects the ride, I will 
say that the Rat Trap Pass on the Atlantrek make it pretty much just as fun 
to ride burdened as the Kuwahara. I like the variety, which is the thing 
that allows me to, well, enjoy the variety!;^) But, getting a bike you 
like, when we have that luxury, can be a big factor, obviously. Hence RBW. 

Jeez, I hope I got affect and effect right. My brain is not what it once 
was.







On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-5, Dave Small wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> What you're saying, in essence, is that I'm underestimating the effect of 
> the "build objective" on the ride.  I'm not curious enough to test your 
> hypothesis in this case, but you may well be right.  If so, then that could 
> explain the divergence of opinion I saw in the previous thread I 
> referenced.  
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 3:36:20 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Part of it for me probably hinges on the fact that I'm a mechanic.  As a 
>> mechanic, the frame and the parts are the paints and the canvas, andthe 
>> frame.  As the mechanic, I'm the painter.  The build is the thing, to me.  
>> For exactly the same reason you said: "I wouldn't recommend getting a Sam 
>> thinking it's a Hilsen", I would say: "I wouldn't recommend putting racks 
>> and heavy tires on one bike thinking it's a sporty build".  You built your 
>> Sam not to be sporty, so it's not.  You built your Hilsen to be sporty, so 
>> it is.  If you flipped your intentions, I bet you would succeed.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 12:25:39 PM UTC-8, Dave Small wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> My comment reflected only my opinion that the models ride a little 
>>> differently.  I own both now, so like you I can directly compare them. 
>>>  There's not a *lot* of difference between them, but in general I find 
>>> the Hilsen to be a little sportier and a little more fun.  I have them set 
>>> up a little differently, with racks and wider-tougher tires on the Sam, so 
>>> that could contribute to the difference I feel but I don't think it 
>>> explains all of it.  I prefer the Hilsen for general fun-rides and take the 
>>> Sam for short tours, although both models could handle both tasks albeit 
>>> maybe just a little better or worse than the other, depending on the task. 
>>>  After my first ride on the Hilsen I told my wife that if I were ever 
>>> forced to trim to N=1, the Hilsen would be a strong contender to be that 
>>> one.  I've never felt that way about the Sam, but I guess I might if I 
>>> didn't have the Hilsen.  
>>>
>>> I remember a thread a few months back on the subject of Sam versus 
>>> Homer, with many posters reflecting your opinion and many others reflecting 
>>> mine.  It was interesting to watch that discussion develop since I had a 
>>> definite opinion and so many of the initial responders disagreed with it. 
>>>  I think it's safe to say that if there's a difference, it's not a big one. 
>>>  
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 1:03:53 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Dave Small stated that he does not consider the Hillborne and the 
 Hilsen functionally equivalent.  

 I respect that opinion but I respectfully disagree with it, as it 
 applies to myself.  I owned them both, both at the same time.  I 
 considered 
 them functionally 

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Let's not forget that Rivendell tried something similar. It's difficult to 
be a specialty retailer, web or brick, that cares to one degree or another 
about quality, sourcing, etc.

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 10:11:36 AM UTC-5, Jon Dukeman,central 
Colorado wrote:
>
> Steve
> Ibex had a retail store in Denver's Cherry Creek Shopping district. 
> Arguably the most expensive place to open a brick and mortar retail store 
> in Denver 
> They wouldn't get much sympathy from me paying that high rent. 
> Jon
>
> On Mar 1, 2018 7:56 AM, "Steven Sweedler"  
> wrote:
>
> I wonder if Ibex tried something like this what the response would have 
> been, rather than folding. Steve
>
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:38 PM Dave Small  > wrote:
>
>> This was remarkable to watch, and I'm glad I was able to participate.  
>> I've tried to think of another business that would have been able to pull 
>> this off, and was unable to.  I talked to Roman last week about an order 
>> I'd placed and during the conversation he mentioned that the response was 
>> better than they'd expected, and I told him that Riv's customer base was 
>> narrow but was deep and loyal.   
>>
>> Can anyone else think of another business with the kind of base that 
>> would have responded the way Riv's did?  I'm truly curious.  There must be 
>> some, but I can't think of any.  
>>
>> Dave
>>
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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe G-One Speed tire & Atlantis

[Gabriel Bruguier]

Matt-- I've been wondering the same thing about the G-one tires on my 
Atlantis!  I want to offer two bits of information that might be helpful.

Mine's an '03, 58cm, 700c version.

First, when I bought it, the previous owner reported that he had ran 2.35s 
with no problem.  No fender clearance, but they fit the frame.

Second, in the shop one night, a friend brought in his gravel bike with 
2.25 knobbies on it.  I put the front wheel on the Atlantis and there was 
plenty of clearance all around (but not enough for a fender).  I can only 
assume it is the same in the rear.

I'd say go for it, and post lots of pictures!  
-Gabe

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Jon Dukeman]

Steve
Ibex had a retail store in Denver's Cherry Creek Shopping district.
Arguably the most expensive place to open a brick and mortar retail store
in Denver
They wouldn't get much sympathy from me paying that high rent.
Jon

On Mar 1, 2018 7:56 AM, "Steven Sweedler"  wrote:

I wonder if Ibex tried something like this what the response would have
been, rather than folding. Steve

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:38 PM Dave Small 
wrote:

> This was remarkable to watch, and I'm glad I was able to participate.
> I've tried to think of another business that would have been able to pull
> this off, and was unable to.  I talked to Roman last week about an order
> I'd placed and during the conversation he mentioned that the response was
> better than they'd expected, and I told him that Riv's customer base was
> narrow but was deep and loyal.
>
> Can anyone else think of another business with the kind of base that would
> have responded the way Riv's did?  I'm truly curious.  There must be some,
> but I can't think of any.
>
> Dave
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Steven Sweedler]

I wonder if Ibex tried something like this what the response would have
been, rather than folding. Steve

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:38 PM Dave Small 
wrote:

> This was remarkable to watch, and I'm glad I was able to participate.
> I've tried to think of another business that would have been able to pull
> this off, and was unable to.  I talked to Roman last week about an order
> I'd placed and during the conversation he mentioned that the response was
> better than they'd expected, and I told him that Riv's customer base was
> narrow but was deep and loyal.
>
> Can anyone else think of another business with the kind of base that would
> have responded the way Riv's did?  I'm truly curious.  There must be some,
> but I can't think of any.
>
> Dave
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[RBW] Re: wtb: Homer Hilsen - 59cm

[Dave Small]

Hi Bill,

What you're saying, in essence, is that I'm underestimating the effect of 
the "build objective" on the ride.  I'm not curious enough to test your 
hypothesis in this case, but you may well be right.  If so, then that could 
explain the divergence of opinion I saw in the previous thread I 
referenced.  

Dave


On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 3:36:20 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Part of it for me probably hinges on the fact that I'm a mechanic.  As a 
> mechanic, the frame and the parts are the paints and the canvas, andthe 
> frame.  As the mechanic, I'm the painter.  The build is the thing, to me.  
> For exactly the same reason you said: "I wouldn't recommend getting a Sam 
> thinking it's a Hilsen", I would say: "I wouldn't recommend putting racks 
> and heavy tires on one bike thinking it's a sporty build".  You built your 
> Sam not to be sporty, so it's not.  You built your Hilsen to be sporty, so 
> it is.  If you flipped your intentions, I bet you would succeed.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 12:25:39 PM UTC-8, Dave Small wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> My comment reflected only my opinion that the models ride a little 
>> differently.  I own both now, so like you I can directly compare them. 
>>  There's not a *lot* of difference between them, but in general I find 
>> the Hilsen to be a little sportier and a little more fun.  I have them set 
>> up a little differently, with racks and wider-tougher tires on the Sam, so 
>> that could contribute to the difference I feel but I don't think it 
>> explains all of it.  I prefer the Hilsen for general fun-rides and take the 
>> Sam for short tours, although both models could handle both tasks albeit 
>> maybe just a little better or worse than the other, depending on the task. 
>>  After my first ride on the Hilsen I told my wife that if I were ever 
>> forced to trim to N=1, the Hilsen would be a strong contender to be that 
>> one.  I've never felt that way about the Sam, but I guess I might if I 
>> didn't have the Hilsen.  
>>
>> I remember a thread a few months back on the subject of Sam versus Homer, 
>> with many posters reflecting your opinion and many others reflecting mine. 
>>  It was interesting to watch that discussion develop since I had a definite 
>> opinion and so many of the initial responders disagreed with it.  I think 
>> it's safe to say that if there's a difference, it's not a big one.  
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 1:03:53 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> Dave Small stated that he does not consider the Hillborne and the Hilsen 
>>> functionally equivalent.  
>>>
>>> I respect that opinion but I respectfully disagree with it, as it 
>>> applies to myself.  I owned them both, both at the same time.  I considered 
>>> them functionally equivalent, so I sold the "expensive" one and kept the 
>>> "inexpensive" one.  The inexpensive one (Hillborne) happened to have more 
>>> natural versatility because it has cantilever brakes, and greater resulting 
>>> clearances.  It is definitely possible that I don't have the sensitivity to 
>>> detect the differences that others may detect.  The geometry is virtually 
>>> identical so that contribution to "ride" should be identical.  I definitely 
>>> did not possess the sensitivity to detect "planing" differences between my 
>>> Hilsen and my Hillborne.  I rode the Hilsen a lot more than I rode the 
>>> Hillborne, because, of course, it was the 'nicer' bike.  I detected no 
>>> difference in the ride quality between the two.  Others more sensitive than 
>>> me or who ride a lot more than me might detect something.  The Hilsen is 
>>> certainly no worse than the Hillborne.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 9:17:32 AM UTC-8, Dave Small wrote:

 I don't consider these substitutable.  I mean, yeah, you can substitute 
 a Sam for a Homer, but they ride differently.  If I wanted a Hilsen, I'd 
 get a Hilsen.  I wouldn't recommend getting a Sam thinking it's a Hilsen.  
  
  

 On Monday, February 26, 2018 at 3:17:33 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> If I was in the market for a used 59cm Hilsen, I would give serious 
> consideration to a NEW 55cm canti-Hillborne.  
>>
>> Thanks!! 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Dave Small]

This was remarkable to watch, and I'm glad I was able to participate.  I've 
tried to think of another business that would have been able to pull this 
off, and was unable to.  I talked to Roman last week about an order I'd 
placed and during the conversation he mentioned that the response was 
better than they'd expected, and I told him that Riv's customer base was 
narrow but was deep and loyal.   

Can anyone else think of another business with the kind of base that would 
have responded the way Riv's did?  I'm truly curious.  There must be some, 
but I can't think of any.  

Dave


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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto M1 Mark Rack

[Dave Small]

Thanks, Lum.  Will this work with a canti-Sam, attaching to the external 
braze-on that Riv puts where it does on the Sam?  Looks like it will, but 
would like to confirm, if anyone knows.  

The difference in weight ratings suggests to me that the ratings are nearly 
arbitrary, but I never did buy into the 4-pound limit on the Mark's rack.  

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 1:29:39 AM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> You can also get a Nitto M18. 
> Looks the same but without the front tang. 
>
> And has a much higher load weight safety rating than a Mark’s.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

[Tim Gavin]

I use a miniature bungee cord to stabilize the front wheel, especially when
the bike is fully loaded.

>From one spoke, over the downtube, back to another spoke.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:15 AM, Kiley DeMond  wrote:

> Oh, is this one near and dear to my heart! I am just a jump on, jump off
> kinda gal, so all the fiddly solutions were not going to work long term for
> me. I bought a Flickstand off eBay before I installed fenders, so that
> lasted about a month (still have it for sale if anyone is interested). As
> of right now my 60cm Cheviot, aka Heidi, is sporting the Velo Orange
> solution which works pretty well. I did go to the hardware store and
> purchase the same spring in silver and I am working on a replacement spring
> cover in an appropriate color as Heidi doesn't look good in black.
>
> P.S. I use an Axa frame lock to further facilitate the 'jump on, jump off'
> way and the bike is heavy enough, no one is slinging it over their shoulder
> and running off, at least where I live.
>
> On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 12:46:24 PM UTC-7, Ash wrote:
>>
>> Happy Friday everyone!
>>
>> Today my Appa made its first 24 mile commute to work, with my laptop bag
>> and bunch of other things in the front on Mark's rack/Wald's basket combo.
>>
>> With all that weight in the front, keeping the bike stable while not
>> moving was a big problem.  This is because the steering mechanism would
>> turn all the way to the right or left, causing the bike to move and fall.
>>
>> Perhaps the solution is to somehow lock the front wheel to the down
>> tube.  Quick search on the inter webs told me that there used to be
>> something called Flickstand.  It doesn't exist anymore.
>>
>> How do you folks deal with this situation?  Velcro the wheel to down tube
>> maybe?  Is there a better option?
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[RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

[Kiley DeMond]

Oh, is this one near and dear to my heart! I am just a jump on, jump off 
kinda gal, so all the fiddly solutions were not going to work long term for 
me. I bought a Flickstand off eBay before I installed fenders, so that 
lasted about a month (still have it for sale if anyone is interested). As 
of right now my 60cm Cheviot, aka Heidi, is sporting the Velo Orange 
solution which works pretty well. I did go to the hardware store and 
purchase the same spring in silver and I am working on a replacement spring 
cover in an appropriate color as Heidi doesn't look good in black. 

P.S. I use an Axa frame lock to further facilitate the 'jump on, jump off' 
way and the bike is heavy enough, no one is slinging it over their shoulder 
and running off, at least where I live.

On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 12:46:24 PM UTC-7, Ash wrote:
>
> Happy Friday everyone!
>
> Today my Appa made its first 24 mile commute to work, with my laptop bag 
> and bunch of other things in the front on Mark's rack/Wald's basket combo.
>
> With all that weight in the front, keeping the bike stable while not 
> moving was a big problem.  This is because the steering mechanism would 
> turn all the way to the right or left, causing the bike to move and fall.   
>
> Perhaps the solution is to somehow lock the front wheel to the down tube. 
>  Quick search on the inter webs told me that there used to be something 
> called Flickstand.  It doesn't exist anymore.
>
> How do you folks deal with this situation?  Velcro the wheel to down tube 
> maybe?  Is there a better option?
>

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Re: [RBW] Spring Has Sprung in Tidewater, VA

['mlpessar' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Phil, the Dismal Swamp Trail is a great ride. Downtown Norfolk has been 
re-vitalized with a consequent growth in traffic. Significant strides 
(protected bike lanes) have been made in Ghent. Fun place to bike. A lot of 
cyclists in Pungo, particularly on the weekends.
-Marc


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Re: [RBW] Spring Has Sprung in Tidewater, VA

[phil k]

I loved growing up in Virginia Beach. I used to ride along the Dismal Swamp 
Trail, right along route 17, into South Mills, North Carolina and ride 
back. When I would come home for breaks during college, my friends and I 
would meet at the Dairy Queen in Ghent at night, and ride around downtown 
Norfolk, which would be completely deserted. Seems to be more restaurants 
and night life, and more busy these days though,

I also liked riding along First Landing Park.

On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 1:42:14 PM UTC-5, mlpessar wrote:
>
> Patrick, I'm in Virginia Beach. 
> You're a hardy man, these days a 21 mph headwind would have me traveling 
> in reverse ;-). 
>
> On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 12:57:58 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Beautiful! Where is this?
>>
>> Around here, we know spring is coming because the winds pick up -- 21 mph 
>> headwind for half my trip yesterday, a big, square "U" -- N>E>S and back 
>> again -- as I took the long way to Fat Tire. If we're lucky, the winds will 
>> blow from late Feb through part of April and then calm to the usual breezy 
>> southwesterlies. 
>>
>> But it does look as if it is warming up, and we should see the fruit 
>> trees blooming in a couple of weeks -- once again! Still a long time before 
>> the cottonwoods nearby re-leaf; meanwhile all their leaf detritus ends up 
>> in my yard.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 7:54 AM, 'mlpessar' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A neighborhood cruise on the Appa yesterday afternoon. As improbable as 
>>> it seems Spring has most definitely sprung in this neck of the woods. Does 
>>> a soul good. For those of you still in the clutch of Winter here's some 
>>> pics to remind that Spring is just around the corner.
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/149631067@N08/albums/72157693199672534/with/40536593221/
>>> -Feeling fine in VA,
>>> Marc
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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe G-One Speed tire & Atlantis

[Jon BALER]

These tires have no tread, so they will fit narrower than 2.35 mountain tire.  
Mine measure closer to 2.25.

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