Hi Michael -
I mean no disrespect.
Here's my take on the RBW Business Model:
In 2004, when I came to try and buy one of the original [Coleman green]
Quickbeams, Mark said: "We'll treat you right". And everyone at Rivendell
always has treated me right ever since. Miesha, Sterling, Rich, Will,
There's also the matter of looks, color, name and maybe just wanting to try
something different. It's a thing!
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I'll look into some water shoes. With boiled wool socks, even walking
through water, my feet will stay warm albeit wet.
On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 11:35:30 PM UTC-5 masmojo wrote:
> That tricky. because the temperature range is still quite cool. Just above
> freezing the still freezing, if
Well it is a smaller frame likely doesn't have the double top tube so it should
feel lighter. The longer chainstays do give the bike a springy feel.
That's the magic of Rivendell!
It kinda reminds me of a friend of mine many years ago who worked in a high end
stero store, when I asked him about
I also ride a 64cm QB. My saddle height is 81.5cm and I’m 6’2.5” tall. It is on
the big side when compared to some of my racy frames but fits great and I love
the ride.
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That tricky. because the temperature range is still quite cool. Just above
freezing the still freezing, if it's wet and it's windy or you are moving
through the air, due to evaporative cooling. Up to about 45 to 50 degrees it
would still be imperative to keep your feet dry! On up to at least 65
That seems like a reasonable price just to hang on the wall as art. Plus it has
history as an OG iBOB bike. If we had a museum, this would be in it, with
pictures of Patrick’s other bikes.
Philip
Santa Rosa, CA
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Thanks for the links! You actually turned me to Dachstein socks a couple
years ago and they're simply the best. Unfortunately, one of our dogs got a
hold of one so I need to replace them before winter. Our weather here in TN
is nothing compared to your neck of the woods, snow comes once a year
Sorry, I meant to ask also, what temps you're talking about? I find the
trickiest weather to ride, rest, and then ride again in is wet and 25 to
55. Below that, and staying dry is easy, above that and staying warm is
easy, even when wet. If you haven't tried fish net long johns for this temp
Boiled wool socks, at which point nearly any shoe you like will work great.
I like Vivo barefoot's Ra II. I ride with a leather sole as an insert to
emulate a stiffer soled cycling shoe. I recommend Dachstein boiled wool.
Here are their socks:
Looks gorgeous! Someone from England would probably love to go here on vacation.
What kind of snake is that!?
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> On Jul 22, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Julian Westerhout wrote:
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> COVID canceled our plan to tour
COVID canceled our plan to tour in the UK on our Bilenky tandem this
summer, so in partial compensation today we went for a day ride on the
Illinois and Michigan Canal from Lasalle to Marseilles, Il and back on our
Rivendell HHH -- about 45 miles. Nice ride, even if the path is very poorly
Kai-
I am all out of Jumbo Homer Holden’s but have a 68cm Bombadil I would love for
you to take off my hands. Also have a 73cm Nobilette Custom country bike but
it only takes up to 33mm tires, Campy drivetrain, cantilevered brakes.
You know how to contact me if interested in either.
Sincerely,
*TL;DR: Looking for a shoe that'll last a long time during the rainy
seasons or when water in your shoes is inevitable. *
My rides usually include a couple creek crossings and come the rainy
seasons, I'm guaranteed to get wet feet.
Summer's covered with bedrock sandals. Winter's covered in
Very helpful, thank you very much. My Rivs are more recent and have sloping top
tubes. I assumed I could go larger with a level top tube.
Regards,
Bones
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All I need for a reason to try a new Rivendell is "I want to try that one."
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Doug, you have put your finger on the problem exactly. Yes, chainstays
have gotten longer, tire clearance wider (than 52!) and geometries have
been tweeked, but as you ask:
"what would I want that my Atlantis doesn't do?" and have never come up
with a good answer. "
What we poor humans face
Ha!
Yes, I have a wholesale account, so I build up nice bicycles now and then for
charity, and it sort of doubles the value of my giving since the bikes usually
raise a lot of money.
Also neighborhood kids help build the bikes and they learn, too.
❤️❤️❤️
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All these WTB's has me wondering if maybe there's one of these huge Homers out
there for me. The less attractive the better (on furlough for at least another
month) but want to talk to YOU about making this dream happen...
Thanks!
-Kai
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I've got a blue one I'm not using.
-Kai
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"Paul brakes & Paul seatpost, White hubs"
That's how you set it up for the charity auction? That's incredibly charitable
of you! Very nice. My first Rivendell was a 64 twin toptubed Hillborne, it's
the only one I sold (don't ever sell anything☹️)
Enjoy!
-Kai
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Wow, I’ve been keeping my eye out for one of these. Anyone know the recommended
saddle height for a 64 (mine is 80)?
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Michael:
In rebuttal, I'd like to point out how much the Rivendell model line-up has
evolved over the years. When I bought my Atlantis in '03, there was just a
handful of models (don't recall the rest) and the Atlantis was the most
heavy duty and touring oriented. In 25 years, Rivendell has
You can google “how to measure Bike Fridays”. A video will demonstrate.
Thanks!
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 5:32 PM Joe Bernard wrote:
> That's correct. On a regular sloping-toptube or step-thru bike you would
> measure straight across from the seatpost through the headtube. You mimic
> that on a
That's correct. On a regular sloping-toptube or step-thru bike you would
measure straight across from the seatpost through the headtube. You mimic that
on a Bike Friday by measuring straight across from about the midpoint of the
seat- and bar-mast.
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Hello,
Horizontally between the middle of the two vertical-ish tubes (a sort of
top-tube length, but lower?)? That’s a very weird way to measure! It is
definitely a larger frame. Let me know if i’ve properly understood where to
measure and i’ll do so. One of the photos has the deat tube
I hate to ask this but I have never used XCPro hubs. What’s with the
grease coming out of the sides? I assume this is wiped away when being
built up.
Sorry for my being uninformed, always used Superbe and Cyclone before.
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price drop to 180 shipped!
On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 11:04:00 PM UTC-7, jamin orrall wrote:
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> Selling a "light grid grey" happisack. I purchased it a while ago to
> replace my Bagboy but I decided to stick with the smaller of the two. The
> bag is in almost new condition, see pictures.
Looking to buy a short chainstay 61cm Atlantis (TOYO, MUSA). I prefer the older
style to the MIT geometry. I’m interested in a full bike or a frame set.
Thanks so much,
Joshua
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Hey I have a green one available in LA
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I’m waiting on a Clem L 52 myself. I bought a Nitto 34F Campee front rack with
the express purpose of mounting it onto my Clem with a WALD 139 or 157 basket.
So there’s one option. Another large load-bearing option is the SURLY front
rack. Heavy, but can carry up to 70 LBS if needed. Silva
My Banana Sack is my favorite bag. The shape is perfect and it holds more
than you'd think based on its size.
Doug Hansford
On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 6:36:08 PM UTC-4, Hetchins52 wrote:
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> Andrew took me up on my offer so mine is on its way to TN and no longer
> available.
>
> David
>
> On
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Nice bikes. The NWT is of interest to me. It must be a Large (58cm) at
least? BF measures size from the center of stem riser to the center of
seat mast using a level.
Thanks!
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 3:19 PM Julian Westerhout
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> For Sale — Two Bike Fridays. I am selling these on behalf of
Hi Jeremy,
I've got a 58 Hunq and my wife has the 55 Appaloosa. I started this thread
to see if anyone has experience with a larger Appaloosa because I was so
surprised when I rode her App for about an hour how much livelier and
supple it felt compared to my Hunq (one of the first generation
Hey group, just seeing if anyone has a 58 Hunqapillar they’re not riding much
and would like to move along. -Mike
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Back in 2013, I test rode an Appaloosa prototype while waiting for my
Hunqapillar to be made. I didn't pick it up to feel its weight compared to
the demo Hunqapillars at Riv, but it did ride much differently than the
Hunqapillar. The longer chains stays give the ride a much different feel. I
I've owned both, the Hunqapillar was a stout trail bike and did not feel
appreciably lighter than an Appaloosa to me.
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The Appaloosa would be a definite upgrade over the Clem.
I think if you went through the Blug and the Blagh for the last 2 or 3 years,
you would find something.
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I never in a million years thought step-thru/mixtes would break through the
"lady's bike" stigma in this country (most of the world didn't market them that
way) and take off as A Serious Bicycle. Grant was the wise one who looked at
them as bicycles first and thought "A lot of people would be
I think Rivendell uses what they refer to as "Silver" tubing in their current
lineup of overseas manufactured frames. As far as I know this steel is
possibly sourced from one or more manufacturers (True Temper?). Perfectly
adequate I'm sure, but older US made frames were made with more common
The Riv/Nitto Hub Area Rack works with Orlieb front bags and I assume a bunch
of others. Out of stock at Riv but I have one (with hoop) I'm not using. Holler
at me at joeremi62 gmail com if you're interested.
Joe Bernard
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Yes, that Saluki is sweet!
And yes overall the Clementine sort of slid into a Niche, but I don't think
that category really existed 20 years ago. Or at least there wasn't anyone who
thought they could make hay with it.
To me the Electra Townie really staked out that territory of something
hey all-
need a set of the Riv bullmooses for a friend's build. figured i'd check
here first before heading to rivbike...
holler if you have something you're willing to part with.
best,
anthony ritchey // pdx or // 724 757 9358
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It's not a flaw... it's a feature!
On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 1:38:11 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:
> There is a major flaw in the RBW Business Model. They forgot to include
> planned obselence. Really, how can you expect to grow a business when your
> products not only don't wear out
You would need a wheelset too. The Clem 45 is 26”, not 650b
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Nitto 34F (big front rack) worked well on the 52 Clem H (most recent
generation) I used to own. Not sure if your Clem L differs in fork geo
though.
Best,
Clayton Scott
HBG, CA
On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Dave Redmon wrote:
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> I have a Clem L 52cm/650B and am searching for
64cm orange Quickbeam in the DC area.
<
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Make that last read "slopes too far down in front"
Dave in KS
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No problem Kyle— best of luck. I know the 45 Clem L’s are a bit harder to find.
You may be interested in the Velo Orange Polyvalent frameset if you have
trouble finding the Clem 45 L: https://velo-orange.com/products/polyvalent-mk5-1
I may still be interested in purchasing your 52 Clem L frame
A Clementine is always good, now and forever! I think yours will nobly serve
you, Mas. And yes, you should also have the Platypus. I mean, that’s exactly
what I’m having, so it won’t be without precedent! Just own all the Riv mixtes,
that’s what I say.
It’s true that Rivs have overlap and that
I have a Clem L 52cm/650B and am searching for a front rack to carry panniers.
Anyone know what fits? I've tried a Tubus Tara but it slopes too far forward.
Dave in Kansas
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Masmojo, can you point to a source that describes the tubing differences you
mention? Or is it something you experienced from riding both? I've been
following Riv bikes pretty closely since the Hunqapillar came out and don't
remember such differences being mentioned, but I could have missed it.
I appreciate the light-hearted post. But we've been down the road of
second-guessing Grant, Will, and Co.'s business dealings before. Instead, let's
discuss that beautiful Saluki!
RK (now @bike.writing on insta)
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Hello Everyone.
Looking for a new frame to build up for a friend. Either a Sam Hillborne
55cm or A. Homer Hillson at 54.5 would fit perfectly. Would also consider
an "older" horizontal top tube Atlantis (shorter rear triangle version,
smaller tires) if the fit is right!
Prefer frame & fork
You could talk about fit and ride quality, yadda. Yadda, yadda . . .
At the end of the day the main difference would be cost. The Hunqapillar being
made domestically, one at a time & the Appaloosa being made overseas in batches
(and limited frame sizes)
Additionally, I don't know the current
I know you were not being serious, but I can still say your wrong. Indeed
Rivendells reputation for forever bikes is what keeps them in business!
It does present a challenge though, because 90% of your customer base already
has a Rivendell.
How do you sell the owner of an Atlantis, Homer or
Hi Justin
Appreciate the response. I’m afraid the H, even at 45cm is too high for her.
The step thru is what allows her to fit into the bikes this size.
Thanks anyways.
All the best
Kyle
> On Jul 22, 2020, at 5:49 AM, Justin Lai wrote:
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> Kyle,
>
> If you’re at all interested in a
Kyle,
If you’re at all interested in a 45CM Clem H in Grilver, let me know. I may be
interested in a trade. I purchased the bike brand new and complete a few months
ago, and it’s running a tad small for me.
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Chauncey picked up the new bike this (actually, yesterday) morning to re-do
the fork and reinforce the rear rack. A 41 mm Pasela has ample room under
the 45 mm fender in the rear, but while it fits under the fender in front,
there is only about 5 mm of clearance, so he will lengthen the fork legs
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