I ride both, on bikes with very similiar dimensions (both riv's), they are
very different and both good.
the albas look less serious, but you can go pretty fast with them, the
upright position is comfortable, the curves allow you to stretch out a bit
and they are so wide (way wider then even
Anne,
Not that complicated if you talked to Peter White he'd make sure you get
the correct combination, but pretty much any light now will have some kind
of fork-crown mount either with it or for a few bucks more. Any of the
fork-crown mounts will work with the nitto on the front.
Brett,
Learning to accept scratches (to your brooks or bike) is one of the things
in life that you have to come to on your own. There are a few things you
can do, proofide, saddle soap or obenaufs to try and buff them out, shoe
polish if you want to get more aggresive. None of them will
FYI, you can get similar but not as pretty as the nitto clamps at home depot or
plumbing supply places for a buck or two.
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Hi all,
For the folks coming from Virginia, if there is a possiblity of a car-pool
please let me know. I can't offer a vehicle as my car only carries one
bike but would be happy to carpool and split the gas costs. I'm flexible
for Friday and would prefer to stay in Frostburg friday nite, but
Funny i was thinking about this over the weekend, i think you have to come
to your own equilibrium on this. It depends on whether you have other
bikes to be your mules, my SH is my camping bike so i think the only
overkill is the big nitto front rack, i'd keep the dynohub, back rack,
I have to agree with others. It souns like a San Marcos is a better fit. I
have a Sam and would never ride it with less then 35mm tires, it feels more
like a country bike to me. Now I do go fast on my Sam but its usually downhill!
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wow, this is an open end question. Do you have a starting point? are you
looking for a modern group or something more rivendell inspired? have you
looked at the rivendell component groups on their website?
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Keith,
I think the reason the SO was retired is that it';s a hard bike to justify on
paper. If you can only have 1 bike it doesn't feel versatile enough, if you
already have a bike it's hard to see the need. But let me tell you, once you
get it, it's a great bike. It's my favorite bike of
Hmmm. So would the 38 not fit on an orange Sam? And to Scott or Jim, would
there be more clearance if the bike used cantis instead of side pulls?
I have 700x35 supremes with metal fenders and good clearance now, wanted to go
38 at least on the next set.
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Ha! I've got on the full fenders + mudflaps, hopefully that's enough to ward
off the rain. Also packing an extra sweater!
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I will give you the benefit of the doubt that there was nothing implied,
but i think you're reading into the title too much. This is a Rivendell
Owners Group, but there is no requirement that you have to own or ride a
Rivendell. In the same way it was a Riv Rally because we organized it
What's your label on the marathon supremes? are they the 700x42 ones from
Riv that measure out at ~38mm? I'm thinking of upgrading from my marathon
plus tires on my hillborne, but those are 700x37--which measure out pretty
close to size.
i love the integrated bell mount on the stem. I
Hmmm, i went downstairs to check my Hillborne and sure enough the dog-bones
are much lower then on your atlantis with relation to the canti-bosses. If
this were my bike i'd see if i could bend the two arms to try and level it.
if that was too much work i'd just live with the unlevelness,
Eric I don't switch as much as I thought I would, I don't notice the difference
when I do switch I usually just tough it out the switch to the other gear.
Shop around, you can find the dos UNO for 80-100, if I did not get the dos UNO
I would've settled for a single acs. The white is really
Man, this discussion is making it really hard to resist hitting order on a
pair of supremes! i keep telling myself the tires on the bike currently
are working perfectly fine, but so hard to resist
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Norm,
I'm guessing you're using the Marks because you already had one? Tom is
right a Nitto Mini front will give a little more clearance because it will
dip under the straddle wire. That being said you can make it work with the
Marks. I have the IRD Cafams on one bike and the Pauls on
While the list is not the best sample, i do notice that most requests for
swaps are initated by someone looking to swap up to a larger size. Both of
my Rivs (a 56 Sam, 60cm QB) both fit fine. i was right in the middle for
the Sam and after owning it i think a 60cm may have worked (though the
I know it sounds like a record but another one for keeping the quickbeam.
If it's overlap consider making the quickbeam into a city bike with
albatross bars. I think your list is pretty sound, i assume you want to
keep the romulus instead of the bleriot for wheel size reasons? I'd keep
the
Argh, I always hate to hear this, and having been to the Ferry Building
Farmers Market on a Saturday and knowing how busy it is, it just sucks even
more that this happened in such a crowded place.
I think about this everytime i leave the bike with bags attached, thinking
who would risk
You have plenty of fender/tire clearance so this would not be an issue for
you, but this eliminates the 'safety' quick release feature of the SKS
front fenders, correct?
This is a great idea for those who do not have a nitto mini front to secure
the fender.
On Sunday, May 6, 2012 1:35:00 PM
If you have one of the green qb's, i think that's one of the least
flashiest bikes around--particulary if you don't have it too kitted out.
with alba bars and a basket it will look like a beater!
On Sunday, May 6, 2012 1:45:14 PM UTC-4, Ray wrote:
That QB recommendation is a great one. Use
I would also add that for components, the 50% is even more true, i've
bought out of the package never installed components at 50% off normal
price so on a bike it's even harder. While the hunqas don't come up that
often the second hand middle level frames (i.e. hunqa, homer's, bombas,
Scott,
Thanks for posting about the marathon racers on sale, it took some digging
on their site to find them but i did. i was thinking about supremes, but
i'll give the racers a go at this price, if i don't like em on the sam i
can find another bike for them!
ps. great looking sam
Michael, not sure how fancy you want to get, but a simple spacer will close the
distance, at least on mine I could not shape the fender to that extreme to make
it work.
Also not sure if you have a marks front or the nitto mini (what's a marks
mini?) but if you don't have a boss to bolt into
, May 16, 2012 7:21:46 PM UTC-4, Minh wrote:
Michael, not sure how fancy you want to get, but a simple spacer will
close the distance, at least on mine I could not shape the fender to that
extreme to make it work.
Also not sure if you have a marks front or the nitto mini (what's a marks
mini
i had concerns about this, but it's rock solid for me, i think it's the
combination of the bolted brake bridge and chain-stay bridge.
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:46:13 AM UTC-4, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:
(continuing)
...of establishing a line with two holes, which I think resists twisting
i'm always surprised by the the 107mm recommendation, i guess it works for
triples with small rings, but on my bikes with normal doubles, it's
*really* close to the chainstays.
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:54:04 AM UTC-4, dougP wrote:
Eric:
Do what Mitch did give Rivendell a call. My
I'm superstitious so i hate talking about flats but i have not gotten one
in quite a long time. I use non-racing (read heavy) tires on most of my
bikes, schwalbe marthon plus (bullet proof but heavy), marathon racers (in
25mm so pretty high pressure), and some dutch touring tires (heavy). I
Wow, all great tips here to get folks started. Liesl one thing that you
should keep in mind, and i think Grant brought this up when he explain the
S24O concept, it's only an overnite, and in many cases it's less then 24
hours. You're only a few hours (ride) away from home and in an emergency
Thomas,
Thanks for posting this, i just ordered a BarSack with my birthday discount
and was thinking of how i could come up with a better quick release system.
now just need to find a source for the set screws!
On Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:04:07 PM UTC-4, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:
I've used
As others point out are you trying to solve a problem or just want something
different? I just got a pair because all my bikes only have non-aero levers
and anted something different. I don't have them ona bike yet but the bodies
feel good in the hand, the levers feel a little thin,but
From my documents, for a 58cm ram, so height is 82.1 cm.
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How ready to go are you thinking of? a rando-bag is the natural option,
but there are a number of strap/harness options. I use an black-rapid
strap which keeps an SLR camera at your hip, there is a buckle which can
control the amount of play in the strap. though i would not use this for a
Are you asking if Paul's canti levers are better then shimano canti levers? I
feel the Paul's are nicer finished but both work fine.
I have sun tour canti xc levers now and they work great.
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hi charlie, which fenders would not take the 38mm marathon supreme (i'm
guessing these are the 42mm labeled ones?), i'm thinking about a pair of
supremes and want to make sure i can clear my fenders--eyeballs say yes,
but any other data point is useful!
On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:27:45 AM
Thomas,
I had to laugh when i saw this picture, i have a lot of bags but i rarely
do the double decker high/low combination, that is some serious hauling
capacity!
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Just to add my two cents, i use a nitto uplift (it's kinda like a bagman
only upside down), but that is only on my 'light' bike on which i carry my
smaller saddlebags, if it was loaded i'd be worried about sag.
as others point out i'd suggest a rear rack, either an r14 (top rack) or a
mark's
Hi guys, been reading the bosco threads and have had a lingering question.
in marc's picture where he puts the bosco on top of the albatross bar, you
can see that to get the same back hand position he'd need a much longer
stem. so for the folks using this bar, did you get a longer stem to
Man, look at all that bar space.
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I know the cat's out of the bag with them posting pieces of it but i wish
they had waited until next week to start the reveal so that folks on the
east coast would get them first. While i had no reason to go to DLG's
site, i still read the blug regularly and i paged down before i realized
I just got mine today and i think i'm in the camp with Rene, i think this
is going to grow on me. the color and style was not what i expected
(having no DLG context), not bad, just different
And i have a framed print of the cycles gladiator poster that grant is
talking about (with the naked
For those who have framed the poster, how much should I expect to pay, with
matting?
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I guess that google offer in dc today is a good buy when it's this expensive to
frame!
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Hmmm, I remember tom's bike from te rally and I thought he had hetres on it.
At the tme it didn't even register, looked good, and he looked comfortable on
te bike. I don't remember him having Paul's brakes though. Someone needs to
ping Tom Nez. !
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Brian,
I've bought from Marc in the past, and while not too communicative, I received
my items, in both cases a day or two after I started wondering where they were.
I think he's just busy so I'd suggest you give him some time, he's been a
member for awhile.
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I'd be slow to damn all freewheels because of this. The ird ones have
a bad rep. And it's too bad it is still happening ihqve one and still
seeing these reports are making me nervous.
On Apr 16, 11:06 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 07:29 -0700, Mike wrote:
Hi Chris,
Jason linked to the waybackmachine which is like an archive for old
internet websites, that's what the riv site looked like back when this
information was posted.
On Apr 17, 6:14 pm, numbnuts campredd...@charter.net wrote:
Now how is it that I have been all thru the Riv website, and
I would second this, we should create a demand list to see if we can
arrange some kind of group-buy. I'd buy one, heck i'd even buy two if
that's what it took to get another run going.
On Apr 19, 10:17 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:
The Woolistic world champ motif jersey that RBW used
If you just want to record, you could a wireless computer and keep the
computer in your seat bag.
if you want wired because of the battery issue then just mount it
upside down so you can't see it :)
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Patrick,
If all you want is distance and time (with location), any of the
iPhone GPS apps will work, you just need to decide how well integrated
you want it. Some of them have their own websites where you can track
previous rides etc.
I use a Garmin 305 GPS watch because it includes a
At a min. you need p-clamps because the Ram does not have eyelets on
the fork. Even then it might be tough because the arms on this rack
are not adjustable, if you do get it mounted please post back so that
others will have a reference :)
On Apr 22, 3:18 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com
I'd repeat what others suggested, if you really stripped it, either
get it re-chased, or just use a bolt and nut. i've done this before
on frames that didn't have threaded eyelets (yes it's really old or
bad threads before it got to me), in one case i had to put the bolt in
with the head on the
I know you were talking about re-painting this but i think it looks
great, only change i would make is brown accents instead of black but
that's minor!
On Apr 23, 3:35 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
William,
That is great!
-Original Message-
From: William
Shimano ok? There's still quite a few on eBay at ok prices. Th sun
tour ones have really gone up in price.
And to the cassette people, yes we freewheel people need to modernize
but when freewheel hubs last this long it's tough for some of us to
justify a whole new wheel.
And all this ird
Ok so while changing the hoods on a set of dura-ace levers today, i
took off the clamp from the back, and somehow the allen bolt on the
side of the lever (which you tighten to the clamp i removed in step 1)
rotated 90 degrees as i was futzing with it. now i can't secure the
clamp anymore.
Any
Ok, that was quick. without popping the lever blade out i was able to
fix it, through some poking and prodding i was able to get the allen
bolt out of the body, it's attached to a square plastic washer. i
could not get the bolt and washer to go in as one piece (would not
fit, when i got it out
Hi Brian,
Looks great! Is that a single tt 56? How much stem are you showing?
I've been obsessed lately thinking i've got my bars too high
On Apr 29, 3:54 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:
I had a nice ride home tonight between the thunderstorms. I've put the
basket back on the
Wow, that is a great looking mixte, for the front rack, if you really
plan on using it that way, get a nitto mini front and tie the basket
to that, or get a pletscher, or a wald woody goody. i'd love to hear
the backstory on this bike, what you plan to use it for, the ss
couplers are intriguing
I think you need more shim, soda can?
On May 2, 5:08 pm, Bill Rhea billr...@yahoo.com wrote:
Thanks for mentioning this Jeremy, but yup indeed, I've got a Nitto
shim in there to drop the clamp diameter down to 25.4mm.
I wonder if anybody has a trick o' the trade? The bar, stem, shims
and
So for the slow among us (me), is the current, secret discounted price
until may 12th, $900 ?
hmm, may 12th is my b-day, should this be a present to myself?
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My body measurements are very similiar to yours and i actually really
like my 42cm dream bar. just put a 48cm noodle on another bike, will
get back to you on that.
i'm debating a simpleone too and thinking about drops or albatross
myself
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Does anyone have one of these with pictures? I'm considering it for a
bike, but not sure how it attaches at the fork crown (will it work
with sidepulls?) and the bike does not have fenders so i can't attach
the rack to those.
Any other comments overall about the rack would be appreciated.
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also like to know how well it works if you don't have them
anchored to fenders as VO really talk that up in the instructions...
On May 13, 3:10 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 11:36 -0700, Minh wrote:
Does anyone have one of these with pictures? I'm considering
Not a big deal, and that's a decent price for a full bike (even if
quite a bit of it is old)
On May 20, 1:51 pm, Daniel aframaf...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been looking at look at this Ram on
Craigslist:http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/2388442830.html
The cable routing, handlebars and
Eric,
The one thing i think can mess you up is whether the shimano shifters
will mount on to the bar-pods. Are there any special washers/fittings
when you mount them to the downtube? The bar-pods don't work with
shifters that require special fittings, for example i have an old pair
of shimano
I'll second the Zinn book, mine's old, but bike tech, especially what
we talk about here, hasn't changed much in the last 30 years. you can
find all of this info online now, but being able to sit down with a
paper book and walk through it over a cup of coffee is helpful for
me.
my best
Hi all,
I know with summer it's not exactly light season, but for those
needing to refresh their dyno lights on the cheap, BM have just
updated their light line-up so PW is closing out the older DLumotec
Oval LED dyno lights, these are unswitched, but pretty bright for
$23. I was going to buy 2
Has anyone held one of these in person? I'm in the market for a new
stem and another technomic deluxe would be fine, but thinking about
other options just for variety sakes. Any other experience with the
latest gran compe stuff from diacompe?
I don't question the quality and craftmanship, but isn't this more
then the lugged quill stem?
On May 31, 3:11 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Whoo-HOO! Wretched excess! I'll take a Pearl. (I have, two on'em.)
They are priddy.
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Michael_S
maybe it's just me, but i find the GR9 platform as a little small,
coming from speedplay's you might not feel this.
ps. i ride in sidi touring shoes (yes the ones from RBW way back in
the day), soccer shoes, or jack purcells
On Jun 1, 3:55 pm, Allingham II, Thomas J
thomas.alling...@skadden.com
Not to dissuade you (and hopefully my just saying it will make it not
so :) ) but i waited months for a SON wheel and edelux, in the 6
months i waited i got a SON wheel (with 1 minute to spare)i paid $275
(decent for sure), and i've seen one edelux go by, and that was only
at a $25 discount.
Maybe it's a dumb quesiton, but have you tried different pedals? Just
to verify the clicking is coming from the pedals?
On Jun 2, 1:11 pm, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.com wrote:
My QB is my do everything bike so I like these pedals because it does not
matter what shoes I am wearing, I can
I'm about the same weight as the OP (well 155), and i think the double
is overkill, but you know what, if the decision between a double top
SH and no SH at all, i would take the double-top-tube. The bike is
that good. If you plan on using it for touring, once you add the
racks, bags, lights the
I found the metal fenders (VO ones) were in fact harder to install
then the SKS ones but i'm not that patient, i think the metal ones
require a lot more test fitting. In the overall scheme it's not a big
difference in time.
I think the SKS ones have their place though, i think the metal ones
are
Man i think i'm freaked out enough now by these IRD failures that i
need to swap out the one that i have on my SH before my next camping
trip...
On Jun 7, 12:47 pm, james black chocot...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 03:35, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On Mon, 2011-06-06
Thomas,
I'll tell you soon how this works out, i have a Phil Wheel IRD FW hub
and i'm about to replace it with a sunrace one, at least until i can
figure out if my IRD is trust-worthy or not.
From my research before, i couldn't find any deal-breaker differences
between the IRD specific
I'm not sure what the real story behind this bike is but it's shown up
on ebay/craigslist for the last 6 months at various times and from
various locations, it never seems to sell/gets cancelled at the last
minute.
I also don't get why he had it repainted an orange so similiar to the
original ram
From the archives:
For touching-up we've found the following recipe to work well:
3 drops of Orange Pearl Colors by Boyd from Testor's
1 drop of 1114 Yellow by Testors
As with any re-touch, it won't be 100% as good as new, but this is
just about as perfect as can be expected.
And for making
I find this idea a litlte counter to the spirit of Rivendell in
general as it seems like these bikes were always meant to be ridden
and beat-up. If you really want to see the price of things you can
get a sense of it from the archives, but the ranges that people have
been throwing out are pretty
This is a bad list to ask this kind of question because lots of us
still use deore stuff from the late 80's! or Suntour XC stuff even!
that said, shimano is always trying to create more demand, i think the
big reason for them creating/resurrecting the deore like was so that
they could raise the
Man, I really need this thread to get going, i've been jonesing to do
some S24O stuff myself, just got myself a new tent, but need a kick in
the butt to do it. Anyone with secret spots in the Washington DC
area? I know about camping along the CO, but any other info would be
awesome to have!
On
Man, i really need to spend more seat time in my new berthoud saddle,
my b17 is just so much more comfortable, i do indeed feel like the
berthoud is floating while the b17 feels like i'm sinking into it.
anyone have additional tips for setting up the berthoud? it's still
pretty new, but i just
Just for reference i have 48mm (i'm pretty sure) fluted VO fenders and
i had to squeeze them at the chainstay a bit to get them to fit. I
think 50mm, you might need to snip a little bit off. on my fenders
i'm running 37mm tires that measure out closer to 35mm, i think 40mm
on mine would be
Hi all,
I have a dumb question, i have a kalloy seatpost (i think it's the
cheapie s83), it's a single bolt. For the life of me i cannot get
this thing tight, i crank it down to what i think is tight, but the
rear of my brooks will dip within about 10 miles. When i look at the
post there are
As a recent b17 hoarder, I can tell you there are tons of folks that
have them in the closet. We must be filled with the attitude of
someday well have a bike for them. I think we should keep a sticky
post just to sell/swap b17 saddles in various colors and sizes.
On Jun 29, 3:56 pm, Bruce
, or maybe shim the mating surfaces with
some fine sandpaper... but these are acts of desperation, trying to
improve a poor item.
pb
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Personally I would learn to get use to it. But if you need the
security go for it. The 46 bars have a lot of space. And get the
interruptors with split lamps. Then you can take them off laterbwith
minimal fuss.
I had no issue adjusting to drops. The noodle also feels funny at
first but hang in
Dan is pretty spot-on, your best bet is trying to get someone here to
sell you theirs. As someone who's now got a mix of baggins, ns tweed,
carradice and berthoud bags, at some point you have to embrace the un-
matchiness (if that's what you're after).
On Jul 2, 12:47 pm, Dan Abelson
So i've been noodling a SimpleOne/Quickbeam for a few months now, i
still might end up with either, thought a QB in my size never seems to
come up anymore. But while i'm noodling that i really have to
research my alternatives, i'm not up to speed on what's the best
options for a single-speed
Not sure for others but when I use this URL
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/topics
The old format still loads for me quick. The topics on the end is the
trck.
On Jul 27, 2:57 pm, Scott Henry ske...@gmail.com wrote:
Never had a problem using it thru gmail or on my iPad.
I can
Amit,
I've been riding the same B17 for about 10 years, so it's well broken
in. I just got a berthoud, and while it sure looks nice, i find the
B17 a little more comfortable (most likely due to the break-in i'm
still doing on the berthoud), outside of that they are pretty similiar
saddles, time
Michael,
Not sure where you are located, but if you share your location,
someone on the list may be able to meet you and help you with the
intricacies of sizing the bike and taking some pictures. The folks
here are more interested about bikes selling at a fair price then in
absolute bargains.
When i got my Hillborne, i too thought it strange that it wasn't
labeled a Rivendell, but i also understood the history of them keeping
the customs as Rivendell branded and the off-the-shelf frames as
Rivendell inspired. In the end, what does having a Rivendell branded
bike really get the buyer?
I too have a recent rivy Phil Wood FW hub on my hillborne. I bought
it last year, as long as your comfortable that you'll be able to
source reasonable freewheels for the next few years then go for it.
More practical people would tell you to get a Deore or LX freehub
built for the same price
I believe this seller is Elton who does work for Harris Cycles (though
this sale is not related to Harris Cycles), i bought my SH frameset
from him last year, good seller. This build is pretty high-end, so
interesting to see what it will end up at, my size as well :) but i
already have a bike
Hi Kathy,
Unfortunately these bikes don't have much info on them (no size
stickers or anything like that), there should be a serial number on
the bottom and if you call Rivendell they might be able to match it to
the original receipt which would help you catalog the bike for sale,
and ballpark a
I went looking for a Larabar recipies and found this
http://www.healthhabits.ca/2010/06/18/homemade-larabar-recipes/
i was curious how this woman eats 2 bars per workout! How long does
she work out, are these bars less calories then regular energy bars?
They do not look appetizing (i find very
With the number of DC folks in the area, it'd be great if we could
maintain a sublist for DC based RBW owners, i think it'd be helpful
for these types of requests, and also for posting local events.
As for the original request, i only know about the mysterious Betty
Foy that surfaced recently, so
polluting the list ;)
On Aug 16, 1:50 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:
With the number of DC folks in the area, it'd be great if we could
maintain a sublist for DC based RBW owners, i think it'd be helpful
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