[RBW] A four hour (over two days) ride on the Great Allegheny Passage

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Roberta,
Thanks for sharing your experiences.  Your photographs and descriptions brought 
back great memories of my trips on the GAP.  I am so glad you enjoyed your time 
on the trail.  
All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] Ride Report - 600-mile tour on Joe Appaloosa

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Brad,
Congrats on an epic journey and such a cool way to travel to a conference.  
Your description of the C this summer is spot on! What a mess.  So glad you 
made the best of it.  Thanks for sharing the trip experience and your 
impressions of the Joe A.
All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] OT - Wooden Boat Build Complete (and the paint matches my Saluki!)

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Dear Tony,
Congratulations on finishing this beautiful boat.  I enjoyed hearing about your 
progress this spring.  I can’t wait to see it in person.  Perhaps you need a 
way to carry the Saluki on the boat, too.  Again, great work.
All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] Help me diagnose chain slip cause?

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I had a the exact problem and took bike to my LBS. They said that I didn’t have 
my cable properly affixed to Altus. He routed it “properly” and things worked 
well.
Good luck,
Erl

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[RBW] Bicycle Commuting

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Doug,
Yes, any Riv would handle the task well.  Having commuted (8 hilly miles each 
way) on an LHT, Atlantis, Romulus, and a Cheviot, my favorite is the Cheviot 
with Little Big Ben tires, fenders, rear saddlesack and a front basket. A 
wonderful bike all around.
Good luck,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?

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https://www.rivbike.com/pages/rivendell-models-1
This link from the frame page seems to indicate the Rodeo can be a special 
order.

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[RBW] google group recommendations

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Joe,
It is “Bicycle Lifestyle”; still around but gets less traffic than some of the 
others mentioned.  It’s a great resource for questions and issues with dynamo 
lights.
Erl 

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[RBW] google group recommendations

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I also belong to the “650b” group and “Classic Rendezvous lightweight vintage 
bicycles“ group.

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[RBW] heard a song that reminded me of my Riv bikes

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Guy Clark is a legend.  For those wanting a good intro to his music and 
songwriting, I recommend this album of Guy Clark songs covered by other 
artists: 
http://americansongwriter.com/2012/01/guy-clark-this-one’s-for-him-a-tribute-to-guy-clark/

Yes, that song reminds me of my Rivs too!
Erl

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[RBW] WTB: 650b/27.5 rear wheel

[WETH]

For my new-to-me Hunqapillar:
-135 rear spacing
-36 holes preferred 
-8 speed cassette comparable 
-used ok, but not abused

Open to a wheel set but really just need the rear.
Someone perhaps upgrading their Rivendell budget 650B wheels?

Thanks,
Erl 
Washington DC area

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[RBW] 59 650b Hunqapillar-New F/F/HS/BB Day

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That is perfect! I look forward to seeing many photos on Instagram of your 
adventures with this bike.
Erl

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[RBW] New Bike Day!

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Beautiful! Enjoy!

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[RBW] Ride Report - HHH W Overnighter and Beer Sampling Adventure

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Tony,
Thanks for a wonderful report on the trip and the bike!  I am glad to learn how 
well everything went.  I also had no idea there were so many places for liquid 
refreshment along that trail!
Erl

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Re: [RBW] FS: 56cm Rivendell Road - $875

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As a previous owner of this frame, I will add that photos never do justice to 
the paint job.  There is a subtle sparkle in the silver/grey that is hard to 
capture in a photograph.  Also, Chris made our transaction a pleasant 
experience, like everyone else here with whom I have bought, sold, or traded 
items.
Erl 

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[RBW] OT: Frankenbar sighting

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Good eye! I was sontransfixed by the bars that I overlooked that!

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[RBW] What do Rivendell Riders wear for cycling caps?

[WETH]

This year I’ve been wearing a Shelta hat 
https://www.sheltahats.com/products/the-firebird
The front brim is stiff like a ball cap while the surrounding wide brim is soft 
like a Tilley.  So far, it stays on my head at 20+ mph descents and keeps sun 
off my ears and neck.  They have different styles with varying widths in the 
side.
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Dogs on Rivs -- leash "wand"?

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Patrick,
I sent you a private email, but I will elaborate here.  I own the Wally-dog 
device in your Amazon link.  I used it half a dozen times for a strong 70 lbs 
Labrador.  It worked well and as advertised.  It kept him from getting under 
wheel.  Some training is needed in getting your dog to “heel” and “stop” 
especially big dogs.  In the end, my dog was too strong physically and stubborn 
for me to safely use it with him.  For a smaller, better trained canine, it 
would work well.  I clamped it to my seatpost with no problem.
Thanks,
Erl

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[RBW] N+4?

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Rod,
Congrats on the new Atlantis, and the other three bikes in your build queue are 
great too!  I always find it comforting to have a build project waiting when 
the time/weather is right. 
I wish Riv put the truss on the 56cm Atlantis too; I’d buy one in a heartbeat.  
I really like the look of the curved second top tube in the 59cm.  
I look forward to photos as you work your way through the builds!
Erl

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[RBW] I got a new Clem!

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Congratulations, Joe!  That color looks great.  Will this be a candidate for 
another e-conversion?
Enjoy the ride!
Erl

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[RBW] Recent Hunq Trip on the Erie

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Marc, 
I enjoyed your description and photographs.  The Erie looks to be a far better 
experience than I’ve gathered from other online reading.  Did you find any 
resources particularly helpful in trip planning and navigating that you’d 
recommend, especially that indicate free camping options?
Thanks,
Erl

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Re: [RBW] Re: 58 Appaloosa Build (a tale of two bike frames)

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Thanks! Most helpful!
Glad it’s all working out so well.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 58 Appaloosa Build (a tale of two bike frames)

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Hugh,
How does the standover height work? According to the geometry charts a 58 Joe 
has a standover height of 87cm.  I run a 75.5 seat height but my PBH is 
86-87cm.  With the sloaping toptube, is the standover height a bit lower if 
measured right in front of the saddle?
Thanks.

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[RBW] Smokey with a chance of Scattered Showers

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The photo:” Climbing through the columbine” is iconic. Another great 
photograph!  I’ll be curious to Leland how you like the Steilacoom tires.
Thanks,
Erl

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[RBW] 59cm MIT Atlantis build and (short) ride report

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That is beautiful! Thanks for the preliminary ride report and photos. I wish 
the second top tube came on the smaller sizes. It looks great!

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[RBW] 650b vs 700c wide tite thoughts needed.

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Dear Lum, 
I assume you are thinking of converting a bike from 700c to 650b.  I’ve 
converted two bikes: a riv road and Romulus.  I ride Fatty Rumpkins 650bx41 on 
the Romulus.  Handling feels more stable and the wider tires make for a more 
comfortable ride.  In terms of safety, I compensated for lower bottom bracket 
height by changing my crank arm length from 170 to 165.  I liked the feel of 
165 so much I changed to that crank length on my Cheviot too.  Finally don’t 
forget you will likely need to switch brakes if your bike uses center/side 
pulls.
Happy to answer other questions.
Erl 

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[RBW] HHH tool kit and other brainstorming

[WETH]

Tony,
Excited to learn the HHH is coming along and you are planning more adventures 
on it.
Not much to add to your list except:
-Sunscreen: always keep a container in my bike bags.
-ziplock bags (sandwich and larger size) for stowing my phone or camera in if I 
get caught in a deluge or need to ride through one. ( larger trash bag 
too-always keep one in my large saddle sack.
-chain lube small bottle. My chain never fails to squeak on a longer outing.  
Given you and I share drive train maintenance philosophy, I like to have some 
lube to quiet things as needed.
All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] Bikepacking Kit

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Thanks for sharing your kit.  Quite helpful.
Erl 

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[WETH]

>From today’s email: “Just know that it's a Riv thru and thru, it will have a 
>superior form of disc brake that utilizes the rim for maximum leverage and 
>light weight, it will be rigid, steel & human powered, and it will use an 
>existing wheel size with plenty of tire choices. A little more heavy-duty than 
>a Clem.”
This sounds perfect to me; I am saving my pennies to be ready next spring!

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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking the Smokey Mountains of the Colorado Rockies

[WETH]

Patrick,
I thoroughly enjoyed reading about the adventure as well as your writing 
and photography.
Erl

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 7:40:59 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> In which I ride through nearly every ecosystem Colorado has, wonder if I’m 
> in the Smokey Mountains instead, encounter deer, bear, wild ass, pronghorn 
> antelope, heard elk, and if my cloths got dirty I had plenty of washboard 
> to scrub them clean. Grin.
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/fixed-gear-bikepacking-the-colorado-rockies
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[WETH]

Multi-talented family.  Thanks for sharing the write-up and great video!

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 3:19:55 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Like it or not, I did manage to make my music video.  It's easier to 
> motivate oneself to gather the footage if you have a concept ahead of 
> time.  For me, 'concept' means a song.  The song is my own bootleg 
> recording of "Kopi Luwak", played by the El Cerrito High School Jazz 
> Ensemble.  My son Henry plays trombone for the jazz ensemble.  Check it out 
> if you like.  It's about 5:30 in length.
>
>  Youtube link 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

[WETH]

Ps: fatter tires help too. You don’t have to worry about the smaller potholes 
and other road debris as much. 38s or larger.

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[RBW] What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

[WETH]

John,
I would say it’s more handlebar dependent than frame, as most Riv frames ride 
well with swept back bars.  I find handlebars that sweep back allow for a more 
relaxed upright riding position, while also allowing for a more aggressive 
riding style when gripped closer to the stem.  Think albatross, bosco, Billie 
bars et al.  I find my Cheviot with swept back bars allows me to ride slowly 
and steadily in congested areas and then to ride more aggressively when 
conditions allow.
Photos here: https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157665232090983
I think any frame and bar combo that allows more upright riding will fullfill 
your goal.  You might have to experiment a bit with bar choice, but that’s part 
of the fun!
All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] How I came to own, and enjoy, a Clem Smith Jr

[WETH]

Welcome. That’s a great introduction and write up. Enjoy the Clem.
Erl
Kensington, MD

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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[WETH]

I no longer own this bike, but for a while it had no fenders or racks.  I can’t 
speak to riding it in rain without fenders because I never did.
https://flic.kr/p/RVTfEU

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[RBW] Re: Sprung Spring

[WETH]

Patrick,
Delightful photographs and prose.  Thanks for brightening my day and 
reminding me to enjoy riding regardless of the conditions.
Thanks,
Erl

On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 3:33:48 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> In which aspens unfurl their leaves overnight, hawks are hawkish and 
> without skill I photograph one, and flowers are in focus, some of them, the 
> one who made it here.
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/sprung-spring
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
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[RBW] Re: Ram in the Dirt

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Matt,
Great photos.  It is great how versatile Rivs are and how they can 
adequately handle so many different riding conditions.
We are on day 5 of constant rain in the mid-Atlantic, so your sunny photos 
are a nice antidote.
Thanks,
Erl

On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 12:24:02 AM UTC-4, Matt wrote:
>
> In 2003 the only bike I owned was a mid-70s 3-speed Raleigh Sport that I 
> rode to work every day and locked up on the street. Somehow I got my hands 
> on a Reader, Grant's philosophy resonated with me and next thing I knew I 
> had a blue Ram. I didn't know the first thing about tire sizes and riding 
> styles but I knew the Ram was comfortable and it could take fenders and I 
> was only ever going to ride on pavement on the east coast, so I put 28s on 
> it and never looked back. Many, many years later and now I'm on the west 
> coast and I know a lot more about bikes and I also know about fire roads. 
> So I finally hung the fenders up and maxed out the tires and wouldn't you 
> know it, but Los Angeles has miles and miles of dirt roads (doesn't hurt 
> that LA covers a massive area). Took a ride a few weeks back that looks 
> downright country but happened to be in the second largest city in the US.
>
> I still have that Raleigh, btw, and it's still perfect for leaving outside.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/QPUjLMgJOP8jEhx22
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[RBW] Re: Balance Bike Delight

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Mike,
Put a smile on my face reading about it.

Patrick,
Congrats on the whole family being ready for Clementines!

10 years ago my youngest was struggling to ride a bike.  I wasn’t clued into to 
balance bikes, so I picked up a 2 wheel razor scooter for $5 at a yard sale.  
He learned the principles of balance riding that and then took effortlessly  to 
a two wheel bike.

All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] Your favorite Rivendell?

[WETH]

I’ve owned four: Early generation Atlantis, Road Standard, Romulus converted to 
650b, and a Cheviot.
I sold the Atlantis and the Road.
The Cheviot is my favorite.  It is stable and smooth. It can handle a load well 
and fits 700x50 Big Bens with fenders (some hacking required).

I’m with Joe on dreaming about a red Cheviot with Wilbury lugs!!

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[RBW] Anyone remember Flickr?

[WETH]

I’ve been a Smugmug and Flickr user for years.  I can’t say enough good things 
about Smugmug. It is worth the money for my purposes.  I am curious about what 
this acquisition will mean.

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[RBW] WTB: Black Saddlesack Large or Medium

[WETH]

Black medium Saddlesack procured.  Thanks to all who sent me leads and offers.  
With appreciation,
Erl 

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[RBW] Loooong dropouts on that 1999 Joe Starck custom fixed gofast

[WETH]

Patrick,
That looks great.  I look forward to photos once built up and your ride 
impressions.
Love that color!
Erl

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[RBW] Well, Here’s a Spot of Snow

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Patrick,
What a fun adventure!  The last photo is spectacular and iconic! 
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Leaning into the Ides of March

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Patrick,
Thanks.  That is a great piece of clothing.  I may have to get one.
Erl

On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 6:08:05 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Thanks, Erl. It’s Schaefer Ranchwear’s Mesquite Vest. I’ve personally 
> proven it is barbwire and decomposed granite proof, as well as wind proof. 
> It makes a great core wind blocker, which around here in sprink and autumn 
> is key for managing warmth/moisture when idiototically climbing and 
> descending. Doesn’t crinkle or make noise like nylon. I love it. 
> https://www.schaefer-ranchwear.com/315-mesquite-vest.html 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Oops!... I Did It Again (eRiv)

[WETH]

Joe,
That Cheviot is looking beautiful and as if it were made to fit that 
motor!  
Erl

On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 7:50:02 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Whelp, I wasn't going to do it then I did it. The first chink in the armor 
> was I bought Deacon Patrick's Bike Friday Haul-a-Day and put a kit on it. 
> It's a great grocery hauler and a good platform for the juice, but as an 
> unloaded "just ride" bike it's a bit quirky. Every time I rode it I 
> couldn't help thinking "Man, this kit on my Cheviot would be great!" 
>
> Then I got to thinking about my Pashley Clubman road bike with Paul Racer 
> brakes. It's a great bike, but with the Chev as my "regular bike" I just 
> wasn't using the Pashley. So I ordered another mid-drive kit and got to 
> parts swapping. Now the Chev - with it's long wheelbase and excellent, 
> predictable handling - is my non-quirky "just ride" ebike, and the Pashley 
> got the Paul Melvin tensioner to match its brakes for a nice, light British 
> 2-speed with Albastache Bars, one Suntour bar-end and an old Mavic 
> derailer. 
>
> I did my first shakedown ride on eChev today (it's been raining, sorry for 
> the low-light pics) and hoo boy is it fun! Realistically it's overpowered 
> on full boost (the no warranty frame warranty is now definitely a no), but 
> I wouldn't ride something like this that way. With the Pedal Assist System 
> on a low setting it cruises along very nicely, like a Riv with a really 
> good tailwind. 
>
> This wasn't the original plan when I bought the frame, but I'm really 
> happy with how all three bikes have turned out now. Pics!
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/e3xXX701DfqcRihA3
>
> Joe Bernard
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Leaning into the Ides of March

[WETH]

Patrick,
Beautiful and inspirational as always. Thanks.
What can you share about the tan vest you are wearing in the photos?
Thanks,
Erl


On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 4:57:14 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> In which I ride out at 25˚F to and around part of Rampart Reservoir and 
> admire the snow on Pikes Peak and ride back down to where it’s 60˚F. Boiled 
> wool proved its worth, as ever. Grin.
>
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/leaning-into-the-ides-of-march 
> 
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Black Saddlesack Large or Medium

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Bill,
Thanks for the suggestion.  I revisited the Flickr stream that I linked to 
in the 3rd post of this thread and found 
this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/brianhef/3577034515/in/photostream/
Which seems to show a metal badge on a black bag. So maybe zipper color is 
a clue?  Did all colors have black zippers?  All current models seem to on 
the Riv website.
Thanks again,
Erl 

On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 1:28:17 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> The metal badge should be a clue.  To the best of my knowledge, all the 
> Saddlesacks that came with the metal badge were the olive color.  I recall 
> black, but I think it was after they moved to cloth badges.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 4:23:53 AM UTC-7, WETH wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for bringing this to my attention. 
>> I really can't tell if it is soiled green or faded black, and I have 
>> message the seller but have not heard back.  
>> I appreciate all those keeping a look out for me for the elusive black 
>> saddlesacks in medium or large.
>> With thanks,
>> Erl
>>
>> On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:23:42 AM UTC-4, Tom Wyland wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure this one is just soiled green. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 11, 2018 at 5:45:38 PM UTC-4, J Imler wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This looks black to me -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F222867078150
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Black Saddlesack Large or Medium

[WETH]

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. 
I really can't tell if it is soiled green or faded black, and I have 
message the seller but have not heard back.  
I appreciate all those keeping a look out for me for the elusive black 
saddlesacks in medium or large.
With thanks,
Erl

On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:23:42 AM UTC-4, Tom Wyland wrote:
>
> I'm pretty sure this one is just soiled green. 
>
> On Sunday, March 11, 2018 at 5:45:38 PM UTC-4, J Imler wrote:
>>
>> This looks black to me -
>>
>>
>> https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F222867078150
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

[WETH]

This has sold and is off to a good home!  Thanks to all who expressed 
interest.
-Erl

On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 2:29:24 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
>
> Update: Frame/Fork/Headset/assorted additional parts still available; 
> complete bike is no longer for sale.
>
> FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm-f/f/hs plus additional parts listed below.
> $850 shipped or $800 local pick-up. PayPal please.
>
> Parts also included with f/f/hs:
> -Set of Tektro 559 brakes
> -One Paul racer medium brake for rear wheel
> -Paul rear brake hanger
> -BB un55 107mm
> -Nitto noodles 46cm
> -Crankset: sugino wide low double;170 crank length
> -Sykes custom wood fenders for 700x28 tires
> -700c wheelset: 36hole Mavic A319 with Shimano Tiagra hubs (130 rear 
> spacing)
> -Tires 700x28 Ruffy Tuffy
>
> Frame Details:
> Headset: Campagnolo record
> Spectrum Tom Kellogg paint job is gorgeous!
> Frame is in good condition: two notable issues--a bulge in the headtube 
> under the headbadge with a corresponding paint chip and one scuff in the 
> clear coat on the top tube.
>
> Frame measurements:
> -56cm c-c seat tube,
> -57.5cm c-c top tube.
> -standover (with 700x28 tires) is 81cm. 
> -Headtube 14.8 (end-end including extension but not headset stack or 
> spacers)
> -Wheelbase: 100.5cm
> -Chainstay c-c: 42.5
> -Rear spacing:130
> -Seatpost 27.2
> -Front derailleur clamp size: 28.6
>
> Pictures here, but please note the complete bike is not for sale, only the 
> f/f/hs and additional parts listed above: 
> *https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157646658697853 
> <https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157646658697853>*
>
> I am happy to provide other measurements and photos. (For photo reference 
> I have a 75-76 cm saddle height and 86cm PBH)
>
> I am not parting components out at this time. 
>
> Just the Frame/fork/headset/fenders: $750 shipped or $700 local pickup, 
> Washington, DC.  PayPal please.
>
> Happy to provide more pics and to answer questions. Please reply off list.
>
> Thanks,
> Erl
>
>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

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No, it has not sold.  It is still available. Please let me know if you are 
interested.
Thanks,
Erl

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[RBW] FS - Riv'd Burley Tandem

[WETH]

I’ve seen this bike in action, and it is quite nice and capable.  Good luck 
with the sale, Tony.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

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Hi Minh,
Max tires size for 700 is 28.  When I converted to 650b, I fit Panaracer Col de 
La Vie tires which are sold as 38, but I think measured closer to 36.  Some of 
my photos show the bike set up as 650b with SKS fenders.  Only parts I needed 
to convert from 700 to 650b were the longer tektro brakes and a wheel set.  
(Brakes I am including work for 700 but not 650b wheels.) I  Depending on your 
crank arm length you might get some pedal strike pedaling through a corner.
Thanks for asking and hoped this helped,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

[WETH]

Update: Frame/Fork/Headset/assorted additional parts still available; 
complete bike is no longer for sale.

FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm-f/f/hs plus additional parts listed below.
$850 shipped or $800 local pick-up. PayPal please.

Parts also included with f/f/hs:
-Set of Tektro 559 brakes
-One Paul racer medium brake for rear wheel
-Paul rear brake hanger
-BB un55 107mm
-Nitto noodles 46cm
-Crankset: sugino wide low double;170 crank length
-Sykes custom wood fenders for 700x28 tires
-700c wheelset: 36hole Mavic A319 with Shimano Tiagra hubs (130 rear 
spacing)
-Tires 700x28 Ruffy Tuffy

Frame Details:
Headset: Campagnolo record
Spectrum Tom Kellogg paint job is gorgeous!
Frame is in good condition: two notable issues--a bulge in the headtube 
under the headbadge with a corresponding paint chip and one scuff in the 
clear coat on the top tube.

Frame measurements:
-56cm c-c seat tube,
-57.5cm c-c top tube.
-standover (with 700x28 tires) is 81cm. 
-Headtube 14.8 (end-end including extension but not headset stack or 
spacers)
-Wheelbase: 100.5cm
-Chainstay c-c: 42.5
-Rear spacing:130
-Seatpost 27.2
-Front derailleur clamp size: 28.6

Pictures here, but please note the complete bike is not for sale, only the 
f/f/hs and additional parts listed above: 
*https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157646658697853 
*

I am happy to provide other measurements and photos. (For photo reference I 
have a 75-76 cm saddle height and 86cm PBH)

I am not parting components out at this time. 

Just the Frame/fork/headset/fenders: $750 shipped or $700 local pickup, 
Washington, DC.  PayPal please.

Happy to provide more pics and to answer questions. Please reply off list.

Thanks,
Erl


>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Black Saddlesack Large or Medium

[WETH]

Bumping this as I am still seeking one: Black--medium or large.
With thanks,
Erl

On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 12:53:18 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
>
> Please let me know if you have one for sale.
> Thanks,
> Erl

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[RBW] WTB: Black Saddlesack Large or Medium

[WETH]

Joe,
I remember,hopefully, that they did briefly.  I find images on Flickr (like 
this one: https://flic.kr/p/7h5C7c ) that fuel my hope.  I admit they seem to 
be rare.
Thanks,
Erl

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[RBW] WTB: Black Saddlesack Large or Medium

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Please let me know if you have one for sale.
Thanks,
Erl

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[RBW] Albastache (or Moustache) Brake Lever Positions

[WETH]

Maxwell,
In order to get my albastache bars a bit higher and closer, I run them "upside 
down" or flipped.  You could swap in a stem with more rise and that could get 
you the height/reach that is more comfortable while keeping brake levers out 
front.  Sorry I can't address your question about brake levers on the swept 
back portion of the bars. https://flic.kr/p/XrqQ35
Best wishes,
Erl

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[RBW] Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

[WETH]

William!,
I painted the headtube and details myself after it was powdercoated.  In the 
Flickr link there are some photos of what I used: 
https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157654006187120

Thanks,
Erl

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Re: [RBW] Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

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Patrick,
I checked my invoice from the auto body shop that did the powder coat as I was 
hoping to find a color number for you.  I did not but did notice the invoice 
called it "Ford Dark Blue." Sorry for any confusion.
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

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I have always thought the yellow of Pondero's Rambler to be a perfect shade and 
tone of yellow.
Erl

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[RBW] Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

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Patrick,
I had my Romulus powder coated in "Ford Blue." Looks to be close to your 
existing color. https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157654006187120

Erl
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[RBW] Cowboy Trail NE, Goatheads, tire choice

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Patricks and Tim, 
Thanks for the info.  I'll do some reading on Orange Seal and tubes with 
removable valve cores.
Dean,
I appreciate the info from your ride.  From the reading I've done, it seems 
portions of the western section (Atkinson to Valentine) are afflicted with 
vegetation and thorns on the trail.  Apparently a state highway runs parallel 
to the trail in sections and is used by some riders weary of flats and rougher 
trail surfaces.  
Thanks,
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[RBW] Cowboy Trail NE, Goatheads, tire choice

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My son and I plan on riding several of the country's (USA) railtrails this 
summer, including the Cowboy Trail in Nebraska.  
http://www.bikecowboytrail.com/default.aspx

Previous riders of this trail have reported in online journals that there are 
thorns and "goatheads" in several sections that caused multiple flats or made 
folks happy they used tubeless tires.  I'm an Easterner who has no goathead 
experience.  I also do not run tubeless tires and do not own any tubeless 
compatible rims.  I also would rather not mess with sealant in my tubes.  

What, if any, 700x35-40 tires have proved goathead resistant with tubes and no 
sealant in the tubes? Schwalbe  Marathon Mondials?  

Has anyone ridden the entirety of the Cowboy Trail who can substantiate the 
severity of  goatheads along the way? Recommend tires? 

The Riv bikes we will be riding have Little Big Bens. Should I stick with 
those, bring a gross of tubes, and try to improve my flat fixing time?

Thanks,
Erl
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[RBW] Are you using your real name on here?

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I use my initials, but try to sign all my posts with my name. Though at times I 
forget.

Erl Houston

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[RBW] Backpedal Braking

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Patrick,
I am so glad to read how well the fixed gear is working for you in the 
conditions you enjoy!
The more you share, the more intrigued I get about fixed gear.  A set-up I 
never thought much about.  I look forward to reading more about your 
experiences.
Thanks,
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[RBW] FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

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More geometry and frame measurements:
Headtube 14.8 (end-end including extension but not headset stack or spacers)
Wheelbase: 100.5cm
Chainstay c-c: 42.5
Rear spacing:130
Seatpost 27.2
Front derailleur clamp size: 28.6

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[RBW] FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

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Thanks for the kind words all; hopefully it fits someone and their budget who 
finds it beautiful.
Lum, top tube is 57.5cm and standover with current 700x28 tires is 81cm.

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[RBW] FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

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Complete bike: $1500 shipped or $1400 local pickup-Washington DC area.  
Or
F/f/hs/fenders: $800 shipped or $750 local pickup.  PayPal please.

Background:
In this fun pastime of catch and release, it is time to release this bike.  I 
bought the f/f/hs used on eBay and built it up as a 650b conversion before 
changing to 700c. It rides wonderfully and is beautiful!  However, since 
acquiring my Romulus and Cheviot, I am mostly riding them.  Time to release 
this bike to an owner with time to ride it! Though it pains me a bit as I will 
miss the gorgeous paint, lugs and head badge!  As previously stated, I 
originally built this as a 650b, but the bike currently has 700c wheels and 
Ruffy Tuffy tires.  (Photos show bike as both 650b and 700c)

Frame is in great condition: two notable issues--one scuff in the clear coat on 
the top tube and a bulge on the headtube under the headbadge with a 
corresponding paint chip-I bought the bike with these flaws.

Pictures here: https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157646658697853
Happy to provide more pics if wanted.

Frame measurements: 56cm c-c seat tube, 57.5cm c-c top tube.  I am happy to 
provide other measurements and photos. (I have a 75-76 cm saddle height and 
86cm PBH.)

Spectrum Tom Kellogg paint job is gorgeous!

Headset: Campagnolo record

Components included (also see photos with exceptions listed below):
-Tektro R539 brake on front, Paul brake on rear (a rear Tektro 539 is also 
included with complete bike) (some photos show R559 brakes which are not 
included)
-Paul rear brake hanger 
-TRP brake levers
-Kmc chain 
-Altus rear derailleur 
-11-32 shimano cassette 
-Shimano CX-70 front derailleur 
-Shimano 8sp shift levers 
-BB un55 107mm 
-Crankset sugino wide low double;170 crank length
-Nitto Albastache bars (Nitto noodles 46cm also included)
-Nitto Dirt Drop stem (Nitto Technomic 280mm with 70mm reach is also included 
with complete bike)
-Tires 700x28 Ruffy Tuffy 
-700c wheelset 36hole Mavic A319 wheelset Shimano Tiagra hubs (130 rear spacing)
-VO grand cru seat post 
-Brooks b17 saddle - blue 
-Bar wrap - Cinelli - blue gel cork
-pedals -MKS RMX Sneaker Pedals
-Sykes custom wood fenders
-blue Rivendell mud flap on front fender, --blue small Saddlesack.
-2 king iris bottle cages

NOT included but pictured in some of the photos:
-Frame pump
-Kleen kanteen bottle
-SKS fenders
-rear blinky light, front light
-American flag 
-bell 

I am not interested in selling parts/accessories individually at this time.

Happy to answer questions. Please reply off list. 

Thanks,
Erl

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[RBW] My new Cheviot

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Joe,
I love it, especially the cream headtube!  Looking forward to further single 
speed impressions.  
All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Road Stnd-56cm-complete bike

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Tom,

Thanks for asking.

Yes, I still run the inverted albastache bars.   They work well on this frame 
which is too small for me.  Sorry I haven't tried them the normal way, yet.  I 
still don't ride the bike as much as I feel I should.  I should sell it to 
someone who would use it more, but it is such a beautiful frame.

I am also considering trying the inverted albastache bars on my Cheviot in 
place of albatross bars.  I ride a great deal with my hands on the curves.  I 
installed Dia Compe levers that follow the bar's curve and give me quick access 
to the brakes.  https://flic.kr/p/MX1Vwv However there is much lateral play in 
the levers which I don't like. So I am considering the albastaches with road 
brake levers.  Maybe when I do my spring tune up.  I find fun in 
experimentation! 

All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] Head Badge

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When I removed my Romulus headbadge to repaint the frame, I pulled dental floss 
between badge and frame to cut through adhesive.  no paint loss and headbadge 
wasn't destroyed either.

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[RBW] Oddly Harmonic Pastel Brutal Chill: Riding into the New Year

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Lovely! Happy New Year!

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[RBW] Re: Riv visit, quick note

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Joe.
Excited to see photos of your new Cheviot!  Yes, my older green Cheviot has the 
hoovesa nice touch.
Happy New Year!
Erl

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[RBW] Fixed Gear Snow Ride

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Best thing I've read and the best photographs Ive encountered this week!  Well 
done as always!

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[RBW] CHEVIOT For Me

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Congrats! You'll love it! I've ridden mine about 2700 miles in the last year 
commuting and light touring.  https://flic.kr/p/YKKibX
And more photos:https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157665232090983

The blue color is quite nice.  Joe, your custom red will be atunning!
All the best,
Erl
Kensington, MD

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[RBW] 200# Grocery Run

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Now that's good living all the way around!

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[RBW] Ridin’ Where the Sun Don’t Shine

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Patrick,
You certainly make the most of the weather and the terrain.  I especially 
enjoyed the photos:"Grinnin' Fool" and "I love this Trail".  Much to be 
thankful for!
All the best,
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[RBW] When is underbiking just biking?

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Looks fun!

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[RBW] WTB: bike poncho/cape

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The group has come through as usual.  I've found a used Carradice to buy at 
price that makes experimentation practical. 

Tony, yes Tuesday night was wet!!  I enjoy riding in the rain, but the temps 
were low enough and I got wet enough to be miserable half way into my 40 minute 
ride home.  

Patrick, thanks for your valuable insights.  When researching and reading 
previous posts here about rain capes, I benefited greatly from your posts, and 
Ron Mc, Deacon, Liesle, Shawn, and many others I am forgetting, who wrote 
helpfully on the pros and cons of being a caped crusader err caped commuter!
Thanks again,
Erl

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[RBW] WTB: bike poncho/cape

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Thanks.  I'll keep an eye on that auction!  But, wow, $20 shipping makes it 
pricey already. Thanks again for alerting me to this.

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[RBW] WTB: bike poncho/cape

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Thanks.  I'll keep an eye on that auction!

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[RBW] WTB: bike poncho/cape

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it's been raining on and off all week, and I am sick of my leaky Shower Pass 
rain jacket.  I want to experiment with using a cape/poncho.  Anyone have one 
they want to sell? Ideally looking for a:  Grudens size large (Riv is out of 
stock), J rain cape, or carradice pro-route.

Thanks,
Erl 
damp and cold in DC

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[RBW] Cheviot dreaming

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Joe,
I love my Cheviot.  For the type of riding I enjoy, it is my favorite of the 
Rivs I've owned or own (Atlantis, Romulus, Road Standard).  It is almost the 
perfect bike. One more set of water bottle cage braze-ons  and it is perfect!

It will look stunning in red; can't wait to see photos.

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[RBW] Oh Boy Got the '96 All Rounder Repainted

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Wow! That's is beautiful.  Well done and ready for another 20 years!

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[RBW] October - A big riding month!

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Tony,
Great photos and congrats on a great month of riding.  I am happy to have 
played a small part in your adventures.
All the best,
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Re: [RBW] OT: New Bike Shed Day

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Dear Patrick,
The answer to your question, where do I work on my bikes, is on our screen 
porch in spring, summer, & fall, and in the living room in winter.  Longer 
projects like hanging components on an empty frame  or refurbishing an old bike 
often occur in my basement workroom.  The narrow/steep stairs to the basement 
discourage me from taking a bike up/down more than absolutely necessary.  Most 
of my tools live in a flambeau tool box (like this:  
https://www.flambeaucases.com/six-tray-box-35-compartments.aspx) that travels 
with my Park work stand.  My wife is quite indulgent of my work stand and tool 
box.  I wish I had a dedicated workshop/garage, but not enough to move.  So I 
improvise, and it all works well even if it is a bit unconventional.
All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: OT: New Bike Shed Day

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Thanks all!
Jeremy and Geoff,
I have no construction plans, we improvised off of the two photos.  I am happy 
to take more detailed photos this weekend.  When I do, I will add them to the 
Flickr folder linked above.  Also happy to answer questions via email.
Thanks again,
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[RBW] OT: New Bike Shed Day

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Riv content is the Riv contents: Rosco Bubbe, Romulus, and Road Standard.

Short version: photos of my two new bike sheds recreated from two photos found 
online: https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157687667377971

Longer version:  I have been searching for a bike storage solution for a few 
years to house my burgeoning bike collection.  Lot restrictions including 
topography and house placement precluded a full size shed or detached garage as 
practical or aesthetically desirable solutions.  Storage inside the house was 
not optimal or convenient.  After searching online I came across this 
intriguing design: https://flic.kr/p/YNFCKL. It looked compact and most 
importantly it looked like it would fit my parameters: wouldn't obstruct the 
kitchen windows, would fit near the backdoor and driveway between AC unit and 
screen porch, and would be easy to secure & use.  After a fruitless search for 
plans for the shed I'd seen or an owner of the photograph, I showed the photo 
to a few handymen and found one willing to replicate it.  Since my wife and 
sons each have a bike, I thought two sheds would be better than one!  N+1!

I still need to paint the exteriors, install a lock on the doors, and install 
some shelving and hooks inside for helmets and other gear.  (The bikes are 
locked to each other in the meantime.)  I also need to find stronger gas struts 
to hold the door up/open.  Overall I'm thrilled! I can now keep all my bikes 
out of the weather, secured, and hidden all while keeping them easy to take out 
and to secure when done!!  
Same Photos here: https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157687667377971

Thanks for indulging my excitement,
Erl

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[RBW] 10x200 challenge complete

[WETH]

Congratulations! Well done!  
PS: I don't know you personally like your coworker, but I would have bet more 
than $10 you'd be successful! :)

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[RBW] Found Stolen Riv in LA - Help me find the owner!

[WETH]

All good ideas. Perhaps Rivendell would feature this on the Blug too to help 
get the word out.  Good luck!

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[RBW] What do Rivendell riders use for winter weather head gear?

[WETH]

I wear an Ibex balaclava: 
https://www.ibex.com/the-balaclava?quantity=1=8990=One+Size
If you shop around or shop their sales you can buy it for about $25
I've worn mine for 3-4 years of winter commuting.  Keeps me warm down into the 
single degree Fahrenheit temperature readings. It fits nicely under my helmet 
and folds up small, so I always have it as temperatures fluctuate greatly 
during a Washington DC winter.

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[RBW] Re: What is a Rivvish bike?

[WETH]

I biked with a friend last weekend who doesn't own a Rivendell or a Rivvish 
bike.  I had him ride my Romulus with albatross bars for a few minutes.  When 
he got off of the bike his first comment said with a smile, "I felt like I was 
a kid again riding my bike!"  

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[RBW] Need help with Romulus Decals

[WETH]

I got the impression when I spoke to them that decals weren't an issue.  Here 
is a photo of what they sent me: https://flic.kr/p/CrSpow
I have never bothered to compare them with the original until your post got me 
thinking.  In comparing my decals to "original" ones in photos on the Internet, 
my downtube sticker looks the same, but the seattube R is a bit different.  
Just an FYI.
Rivendell did tell me too not to lose the headbadge as they had no more!
Good luck. 

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[RBW] Need help with Romulus Decals

[WETH]

Hi,
When I had my Romulus powder coated locally 2 years ago , I bought replacement 
decals from Rivendell.  You should contact them as they were quite helpful.
Regards,
Erl

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[RBW] Let it Begin! (Winter, that is)

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Patrick,
Beautiful photos and great prose.  I'm glad you are enjoying the snow! I always 
like the first snowfall and am sated at that point.
All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] Saluki Re-Tired

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Tony,
As I have said and written on many occasions, "I love that Saluki!"  I'm glad 
you are enjoying it again!

Thanks,
Erl 

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[RBW] Re: OT, sorry, but somewhat urgent question about car trouble

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I am curious about the final diagnosis.  Did the shop figure it out?

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Shorts Black XL

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SOLD
Thanks

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Shorts Black XL

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Steve,
Email sent.
Thanks

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Shorts Black XL

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Steve,
They are still available. 
Thanks,
Erl

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[RBW] FS: MUSA Shorts Black XL

[WETH]

Black MUSA shorts size XL, older style with reflective strip on back of both 
legs.  Bought new in 2015, worn once. $45 shipped CONUS, PayPal please. Reply 
off list. Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/shares/5871iX
Thanks,
Erl

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