[RBW] alternative color hoods for tektro drop bar V-brake levers

2010-08-09 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Hi, all! Anyone know of a source for other-than-black hoods for the drop bar linear-pull brake levers that RBW sells? I think those levers are Tektro RL-520 model levers. I know Dia-Compe has some drop bar linear-pull brake levers that are available with either black or brown hoods; but even for

[RBW] Re: What a beautiful hub!

2010-08-09 Thread JoelMatthews
At those prices, one can easily consider White Industries or DT hubs with the Campagnolo- splined freehub body. Or perhaps Phils with a Shimano/SRAM cassette and a J-tek device. Royce are easily as shiney as the penultimate Campy hub line. They have a sleeker design than the White and

Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne or Hunqapillar

2010-08-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 9:55 PM, ewb ebons...@optonline.net wrote: However, I am a little concerned by the posts that I've read (by a small minority of owners) that the Hillborne ride quality can degrade under load; the fact that the latest version of the Waterford 56cm Hillborne has 2 top

[RBW] Re: Photos from 2010 Marin Century

2010-08-09 Thread RonLau
Jim, Thank you, wish I were there. Ron On Aug 8, 11:34 pm, cyclofiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Hey all - Spent a few hours rolling around Marin and Sonoma counties on Saturday, at the annual running of the Marin Century.  Had the Hilsen all spiffed up and ready to go on the ride,

[RBW] Re: shoulda turned left

2010-08-09 Thread Philip Williamson
It's not an adventure if you don't get lost! philip williamson www.biketinker.com On Aug 8, 5:06 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Went out for a bit of a ride today and decided to veer from my charted course to see what this one hill I'd heard about was like. So I swung a right on

Re: [RBW] Re: Shimmy!

2010-08-09 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/8/10 4:12 AM, MichaelH at mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Lots of interesting thoughts and suggestions here. I haven't heard from anyone who thinks the very narrow tires might have contributed to it. Tires can definitely be a factor. Ride buddy JimG had consistent shimmy issues on his Kog

Re: [RBW] Re: Shimmy!

2010-08-09 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/8/10 12:21 PM, MichaelH at mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Up till yesterday the Rambouillet has had impeccable road manners. I don't think I would buy a second bike from someone who had sold me a frame with built in shimmy. True shimmy is a reproduceable event. There is typically a

Re: [RBW] Re: Shimmy!

2010-08-09 Thread Rene Sterental
Does this only happen when you brake and goes away if you stop braking? Does I happen in bikes with canti brakes but not on bikes with sidepull brakes? I've had this problem only on a Gunnar with canti brakes. Have yet to descend fast on the Atlantis to see if it will happen. Front cantilever

[RBW] Re: What a beautiful hub!

2010-08-09 Thread bfd
On Aug 9, 2:34 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:  At those prices, one can easily consider White Industries or DT hubs with the Campagnolo- splined freehub body.  Or perhaps Phils with a Shimano/SRAM cassette and a J-tek device. Royce are easily as shiney as the penultimate

Re: [RBW] Re: Shimmy!

2010-08-09 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 08:44 -0700, Bob Cooper wrote: It’s a cold, sunny spring morning, and I’m shivering slightly. That right there is enough to initiate a shimmy. I hit a bump in the road hidden by a shadow from a tree. I tense up And per the FAQ that itself is a contributing factor in

[RBW] Re: Shimmy!

2010-08-09 Thread Bob Cooper
René, Thanks for the comments. However, I doubt that brake design has much of an effect on shimmy. By the way, here I define “shimmy” as a mind-numbing terror at an oscillation of maybe 120 cycles per second and an imminent crash. “Shimmy” sounds like a silly dance that they did in the 1920s,

Re: [RBW] Re: Shimmy!

2010-08-09 Thread james black
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:32, Bob Cooper robertcoo...@frontiernet.net wrote: Jobst is the only person who has shed enough light on this problem of mine that, when I actually apply his advise, it has an effect. All praise to Jobst for that post to the FAQ all those years ago.

[RBW] Re: Need 650b Tires

2010-08-09 Thread d2mini
Alright, so one vote for CDLV, one for Fatty Rumpkin and one for Nifty Swifty. LOL! :D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group,

[RBW] Re: What a beautiful hub!

2010-08-09 Thread JoelMatthews
I wonder how loud is the hub when coasting? Shimano is still king as it is the quietest. The Freewheel Royce at least are pretty quiet. I do not recall ever riding a bike with Shimano hubs. Maybe I have, just do not remember. The Royce are easily as quiet as my Maxi-Car, which is a rather

[RBW] walk on art/ride on art

2010-08-09 Thread Seth Vidal
On the morning coffee run I noticed this outside my coffee shop: http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/4875065709/in/pool-64927...@n00/ it's where I normally park my bike and I thought the juxstaposition of the walk-on art (the picture) and the ride-on art (the atlantis) was nice. :) -sv --

[RBW] Re: Need 650b Tires

2010-08-09 Thread Lee
Okay, I'll try to help but I can't promise anything :) I've used the NSs and CdlVs extensively for commuting, mixed terrain riding, long- distance road riding, and camping. IMO, both make fine commuting tires. One thing I'd like to make a point about is that I think the bike you are riding and

[RBW] A basket/saddlebag setup on a Saluki

2010-08-09 Thread Rob Harrison
I'm wanting to try a couple S24Os this summer, and I'm heading toward a basket-in-front and saddlebag-in-rear setup. I ordered a Medium Wald basket from Rivendell. Smaller than I expected, but it fits perfectly on a Mark's rack. My guess is that the Medium size is about optimum for a high

[RBW] Re: Need 650b Tires

2010-08-09 Thread d2mini
Thanks, Lee! Not overboard at all. ;) These will be going on my Homer. I currently have just the rear rack installed with an Arkel Tail Rider and I switch back and forth between a side pannier and a messenger bag depending on my mood. Usually I'm only carrying clothes and other odd/ends for the

[RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-09 Thread William
I'm currently the high bidder, and have been for several days. I doubt that my current bid will win, but I really do want it and will put it right to use if I do win. If somebody does outbid my current max bid I will most likely bid again. If anyone here on the list is planning to blow me out

[RBW] Re: A basket/saddlebag setup on a Saluki

2010-08-09 Thread William
FWIW, on my 56cm Hillborne I ran a Nitto Mini/Platrack in front with a R14 and a Saddlesack Large in back for my S24O on Mt Diablo. The tent, sleeping bag, and thermarest lashed to the platrack in front. Everything else went in the Saddlesack. Worked great, including no hands riding. A picture

[RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-09 Thread Frankwurst
I was on the fence but came to the realization I don't need another Riv at this point in my life. So I'm out. Good Luck Bill! On Aug 9, 3:42 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm currently the high bidder, and have been for several days.  I doubt that my current bid will win, but I really

[RBW] Re: Rear Derailleur Capacity Limits

2010-08-09 Thread Garth
To conclude the thread, I purchased a Shimano LX M581 rear derailleur for the bike. Wow how modern derailleurs have improved. The spring action is super light, the pulley cage is 2cm. longer than the vintage Deore was,allowing for a 45t capacity, up from the 38t of the Deore. Needless to say,

[RBW] Wow! There's an Atlantis under there somewhre

2010-08-09 Thread TomT
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[RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-09 Thread S.Cutshall
Hope you win, but let me add please... I can never quite understand the eBay Refresh-n-Stress method of bidding. Recently I've won a coupla things on The Bay, and even more recently I've sold [and am selling] a metric poop-ton of high end drums cymbals... and it seems to me that it's logical to

[RBW] Re: alternative color hoods for tektro drop bar V-brake levers

2010-08-09 Thread TJ Ramb
This may be a little off topic and a bad idea - but I was considering spraying mine using vinyl upholstery paint. Can't make them gum colored exactly but there are some options that come close - wear may be a factor. Otherwise I wouldn't be shocked if the hoods from other brands could be

Re: [RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-09 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 14:51 -0700, S.Cutshall wrote: Hope you win, but let me add please... I can never quite understand the eBay Refresh-n-Stress method of bidding. Recently I've won a coupla things on The Bay, and even more recently I've sold [and am selling] a metric poop-ton of high end

[RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-09 Thread William
Scott, I agree with you. I've handled this auction wrong. I should have bid my limit at the start, and just be content to let it go if somebody went over the top. I didn't do that, and so here I am. On Aug 9, 2:51 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Hope you win, but let me add

Re: [RBW] Wow! There's an Atlantis under there somewhre

2010-08-09 Thread Aaron Young
Wow! Those are the smallest front panniers I've ever seen! :) Aaron Young Rochester, NY where the rain soaked me to the bone on my commute home. On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:06 PM, TomT vel...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542...@n04/4815789734/ -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-09 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 15:02 -0700, William wrote: Scott, I agree with you. I've handled this auction wrong. I should have bid my limit at the start, and just be content to let it go if somebody went over the top. I didn't do that, and so here I am. So go ahead and raise your bid to your

[RBW] FS:58cm Rambouillet,almost new Phil Wood wheelset 7 freewheel etc.

2010-08-09 Thread hobie
I'm selling my 58cm orange Rambouillett that I picked up from another Riv owner on this site around Feb. of this year. I'm moving into a much smaller place and can't fit 5 bikes,wife and 5 year old. It is not completely built up and will need to be finished.The majority of the parts are here.They

[RBW] Re: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-09 Thread Garth
TT length is one of those it is , but it isn't things. If you ride a bike with too short of a TT , it is. If not it isn't. That's why you get the polar opposite opinions. Being tall, and ridden many short TT'd frames ,it is important to myself because stems only reach so far. They

Re: [RBW] Re: Shimmy!

2010-08-09 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 17:28 -0500, Rene Sterental wrote: You're correct. My confusion. It's just that the OP stated that at speed he'd see a bump or something, would tense and hit the brakes and the vibrations would start; it threw me off. This is quite an interesting discussion but seeing

[RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-09 Thread S.Cutshall
Redundant question, Steve... that's what I am saying [only exception being: known fact that most bidding on high-end/desirable goods on The Bay happen in the last 20 seconds... so again, know your Max-Bid, program it in for the recommended 6 second protocol, walk away, enjoy life, and then check

[RBW] Re: Hong Kong to Shanghai

2010-08-09 Thread Jim M.
Welcome to the list! Sounds like an epic ride. You need an Olympus waterproof camera for your next trip. jim m wc ca On Aug 9, 3:28 am, Fai Mao i.am.fai@gmail.com wrote: I made this tour earlier this summer for my 50th birthday. At that time I was not a member of this group or I would have

[RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-09 Thread William
Scott and Steve You are both right. The stress is really based on wanting the thing and wanting it for the price I want it for. Sure, if somebody wanted that Rambu so badly that they bid $4000 for it, I would on one level be fine with that, but on another, you're still bummed you couldn't have

Re: [RBW] Re: Shimmy!

2010-08-09 Thread Rene Sterental
I guess that's the best way to get rid of it! :-) Thanks for the emergency solution! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-09 Thread Aaron Thomas
There is sort of a way of quantifying it, and it's apparently used by some professional fitters. When I was professionally sized at the Tommasini factory in Italy, they took a measurement that went from the center of the front hub to the center of the handlebar/stem clamp. It was ostensibly to

[RBW] Re: What a beautiful hub!

2010-08-09 Thread bfd
On Aug 9, 8:18 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I wonder how loud is the hub when coasting?  Shimano is still king as it is the quietest. The Freewheel Royce at least are pretty quiet.  I do not recall ever riding a bike with Shimano hubs.  Maybe I have, just do not remember.

[RBW] Re: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-09 Thread Lisa
I think the point is, that reach isn't the same as top tube length. Reach, which for me is a key component of fit, does depend on top tube length, but also on seat tube angle, handlebar height, etc. I have an old Peugeot and a new Atlantis that have exactly the same effective top tube length.

[RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-09 Thread Ken Yokanovich
I'm with you William, the ebaY can be rough on the emotions. I subscribe to the put your top bid in and hope it's enough. BUT, that still leaves me wondering if I am just slightly outbid. I ponder the question of perhaps the other bidder was willing to only pay a couple of bucks more than I

[RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-09 Thread Michael_S
It does seem very nicely done. and it's my size thinking William does have quite a few Rivs.. I have only one... I'll just watch for the moment. No promises though. ~Mike~ On Aug 9, 5:51 pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: I'm with you William, the ebaY can be rough

[RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-09 Thread William
Yeah, and now I'm outbid. I guess that still gives me all night to really contemplate my max/max to take a shot at it in the morning. On Aug 9, 5:51 pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: I'm with you William, the ebaY can be rough on the emotions.  I subscribe to the put your

[RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-09 Thread JoelMatthews
How would this be an improvement over simply bidding as much as you are actually willing to pay in the first place? Schadenfreude, Steve. Schadenfreude. The joy of eBay is not just in the winning. It is knowing someone else lost. And nothing elevates that pleasure more than waiting for

[RBW] Re: Shimmy!

2010-08-09 Thread MichaelH
Actually, I said no such thing. I wrote that I was going 45 mph and moved from the drops to the tops a tuck when the slight vibration started. I immediately reverted to the drops the vibration stopped. Thanks for the reference to the ibob, discusiion Brandt's thoughts. The thing that most

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-09 Thread Ken Freeman
I don't think top tube length is anywhere near the most important measure of a frame. Reach from the ischeal support points on the saddle to the points of grip on the handlebars is important, as is the position of the ischeal supports relative to the BB axis. The horizontal distance from the

Re: [RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-09 Thread cyclotourist
Speaking of ebay and Rivendell, this frame is stunning: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330459226341 Someone please buy it! On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:16 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: How would this be an improvement over simply bidding as much as you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-09 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 17:51 -0700, Ken Yokanovich wrote: I'm with you William, the ebaY can be rough on the emotions. I subscribe to the put your top bid in and hope it's enough. BUT, that still leaves me wondering if I am just slightly outbid. I ponder the question of perhaps the other

[RBW] VO 50.4 BCD Crankset is here

2010-08-09 Thread Michael_S
The new 50.4 bcd TA Cyclotourist copy crankset is now in stock at VO. Looks very nice and shiny! The stock 46-30 combo seems like it would work well most flatter places. Though it seems like 46t ring would get a lot use to me since the 30 would only be needed climbing? What freewheel/cassette do

[RBW] Re: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-09 Thread benzzoy
I had a nice discussion with Grant regarding the TT length as we narrowed down the details of a Riv on order. Basically, if I understood Grant correctly, his explanation was exact as Ken's is below. It all makes sense, really, since no one sits on the TT. Our contact points on the bike are the

[RBW] Re: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-09 Thread benzzoy
Perhaps I'm reading this incorrectly but I think we're misreading Grant's comments on TT length. He is not saying that TT length is unimportant, only that it is a dependent variable. I think the understanding of the TT is not important should be restated as the TT is a dependent variable, in

[RBW] Re: Need 650b Tires

2010-08-09 Thread Bill M.
I've commuted on Maxy Fastys, CdlV's, and Schwalbe Marathons, and have several hundred non-commuting miles on FR's. I had way too many flats on both the MF's and CdlV's. MF's I can understand, they are not designed for flat-resistance. At one point I had five flats in six days on the CdlV's.

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-09 Thread andrew hill
it's a factor for me too - 84.5 pbh and 5'11 for me. not totally sure how to compensate.. i end up pushing the seat way back and putting the bars up high .. but i think that unweights the front end a bit too much, and contributes to wandering handling on my Sam Hillborne. -andrew On Aug 9,

Re: [RBW] F.S. two Brand New Elite Ciussi Button - Alloy water bottles

2010-08-09 Thread Rene Valbuena
The bottle cages are sold. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Rene valbu...@ix.netcom.com Sent: Aug 9, 2010 7:53 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] F.S. two Brand New Elite Ciussi Button - Alloy water bottles I am selling two brand new Elite Ciussi

[RBW] Re: Need 650b Tires

2010-08-09 Thread rob markwardt
I've had Marathons on my Bleriot for the past 15 monthszero flats (and almost no wear). It wore CDL'vs before that for 13 months and had 6 flats...yes, I keep a spreadsheet (GEEK alert)! I've also had used Schwalbes (Marathon Racers) on my Rambouillet for over 18 months and had only one

[RBW] Re: VO 50.4 BCD Crankset is here

2010-08-09 Thread Mike
Wow! I sometimes have mixed feelings about VO but this is really a good thing. I imagine I'll have these on my Hilsen by the the end of the year. I have a 46/34 double on there now, can I keep using the same derailer (Campy compact dbl)? --mike -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-09 Thread Mike
That's a nice looking frame, and it's my size. If I had an extra $1700... I've never purchased something from eBay. I hope to keep it that way. --mike On Aug 9, 7:20 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of ebay and Rivendell, this frame is stunning:

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-10 Thread Fai Mao
Richard Sachs builds his bikes around the top tube length. However, he assumes a 100 cm stem and a certain reach on the bar. That is why Sachs frames have really odd frame angles with numbers like 72.454 The angles fit around the top tube based upon a 1 meter wheelbase On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at

Re: [RBW] VO 50.4 BCD Crankset is here

2010-08-10 Thread Fai Mao
I would run a 13 - 28 8 speed with that but would rather have a 26-38-48 up front On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: The new 50.4 bcd TA Cyclotourist copy crankset is now in stock at VO. Looks very nice and shiny! The stock 46-30 combo seems like it

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-10 Thread Ken Freeman
My view is that if you need to push your saddle so far back, do so, it's where your butt wants to be given the riding style. If you can't achieve that position with a normal or at least available seatppost, the seat tube angle needs to be numerically lower - a custom frame perhaps. After that

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-10 Thread Ken Freeman
eRitchie designs all frames for a 1000mm wheelbase? On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Fai Mao i.am.fai@gmail.com wrote: Richard Sachs builds his bikes around the top tube length. However, he assumes a 100 cm stem and a certain reach on the bar. That is why Sachs frames have really odd

Re: [RBW] Re: Need 650b Tires

2010-08-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 20:33 -0700, Bill M. wrote: At one point I had five flats in six days on the CdlV's. Are you sure that wasn't more like one flat repeated five times because you failed to remove the embedded wire? I'm guessing a wire because sometimes they're almost impossible to see. I

[RBW] Re: Tektro CR720 w/Marks Rack Conflicting

2010-08-10 Thread Garth
I've used these brakes for a few rides now. They work well, but they shed brake material like I've never seen. My rims are coated with black brake dust from 2 rides. These pads won't last long. I think I'll try some SwissStop Black pads or VO's squeal free ones. Anyone use either? -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Shimmy!

2010-08-10 Thread Rene Sterental
Here's why I made my assumption: i tense up and apply the brakes a little. I sit down reflexively to lower my center of gravity, which we all do when it looks like we are going to fall. To not do this requires extraordinary will power and confidence. Instantly, your Quickbeam starts to shake

[RBW] Re: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-10 Thread Bob Cooper
The top tube should really be measured from a point in space that is directly above the bottom bracket spindle to the center of the headset lock nut and level with the lock nut. One way to grasp the concept embodied in the phrase “the top tube is not important” is to visualize, or simply look at,

[RBW] Re: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-10 Thread JoelMatthews
Every woman I know has had a tremendously hard time fitting frames (whatever the maker) due to reach. They try to correct with super short stems, Terry shorter reach bars, compact levers, etc. This is after they size down a frame from what they could/should be riding based on PBH. For

[RBW] Hillbourne handling - was: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-10 Thread Bill Connell
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:49 PM, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: it's a factor for me too - 84.5 pbh and 5'11 for me. not totally sure how to compensate.. i end up pushing the seat way back and putting the bars up high .. but i think that unweights the front end a bit too much, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-10 Thread Bill Connell
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Bob Cooper robertcoo...@frontiernet.net wrote: The top tube should really be measured from a point in space that is directly above the bottom bracket spindle to the center of the headset lock nut and level with the lock nut. I think that's an important

Re: [RBW] Hillbourne handling - was: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
In my case, the saddle position is the very first variable to be determined and set, and everything else is measured off of that. I like a distance from saddle nose (Flites and Turbos) of 3 to 3.5 inches behind bb center. This means that, with the 71* st, the saddle is more or less centered,

Re: [RBW] Re: Shimmy!

2010-08-10 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/10/10 4:38 AM, Rene Sterental at orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I made my assumption: i tense up and apply the brakes a little... (snipped) That was a follow up post made by Bob C. Not the original post. Further, I'm not quite sure why this was referenced to Angus' Quickbeam,

[RBW] WTD: Acorn Tan Rando bag

2010-08-10 Thread Backcountry
Hey Everyone, Maybe some one can help me, I am looking for a Acorn Tan Rando bag. I have the Saddle bag and would like the matching front, But being in Canada, I am not privileged enough to purchase them. So I am hoping some one might have a used one they would like to sell to me. Oh, I have

[RBW] Re: VO 50.4 BCD Crankset is here

2010-08-10 Thread stevep33
I give VO a lot of credit for making these cranks. Until now, there weren't many options for wide range compact doubles, and most of those cranks (TA Pro 5 Vis, TA Carmina, White Industries, etc.) are exceedingly expensive. The cyclotourist gives the gear range of a triple with a simpler double

[RBW] Re: VO 50.4 BCD Crankset is here

2010-08-10 Thread Michael_S
Mike, for a range like that I was going to use a Campy medium cage dérailleur an prob. an 11-32 8 spd xtr cassette. I've been using that dérailleur with a 50-34 and 13-29. I just picked up a long cage Centaur dérailleur if I need to switch to that. I like to ride in the San Gabriel Mountains

[RBW] Grant doesn't TOTALLY discount the value of TT length

2010-08-10 Thread grant
Top Tube Length When you draw enough frames (and one may be enough') you'll see that the forwardmost point of a fixed-length top tube depends on the drop (barely) and the seat tube angle (heavily), and that alone---with nothing else added to the discussion---illustrates that a 57cm tt on one bike

[RBW] Re: Grant doesn't TOTALLY discount the value of TT length

2010-08-10 Thread William
Perhaps I was more controversial in the title of my original post than I intended. I meant 'discount' as in, you know, discount: 1 : a reduction made from the gross amount or value of something Some people think TT length is THE most important dimension on a bike. Every one of you has read a

[RBW] Re: VO 50.4 BCD Crankset is here

2010-08-10 Thread JoelMatthews
I give VO a lot of credit for making these cranks. Until now, there weren't many options for wide range compact doubles, and most of those cranks (TA Pro 5 Vis, TA Carmina, White Industries, etc.) are exceedingly expensive. Exceedingly how? I hardly doubt TA and the White family (the

Re: [RBW] Grant doesn't TOTALLY discount the value of TT length

2010-08-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Grant: question re Sam Hill: does the particular geometry of this frame (56 cm in particular) go less well with a rearward weight bias and shortish stem and highiss bars than for a frame with steep st and lower bars, ie, making the front end lighter than optimal, so that you get a feeling of

[RBW] Re: alternative color hoods for tektro drop bar V-brake levers

2010-08-10 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Thanks, folks! I've e-mailed the Hudz folks (the makers of the hoods used in the build referenced in Eric's link) to discover what they know about compatibility between any of their offerings and the two drop-bar linear-pull brake levers of which I'm aware (Tektro RL-520 and Dia- Compe V-287). (I

[RBW] Re: Hillbourne handling - was: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-10 Thread newenglandbike
I think at the heart of the matter is the notion of length/angle (or magnitude/phase) pairs, which in mathematics/physics are known as a vectors: http://www.physics.uoguelph.ca/tutorials/vectors/vectors.html To me, when it comes to how a bike *fits* a rider, there are only two vectors on a bike

[RBW] Re: Hillbourne handling - was: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-10 Thread William
Vectors?! Next you're going to ask me to handle polar coordinates! Just kidding. You're totally right. I'm working on drawing those out on all my bikes. On Aug 10, 9:46 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: I think at the heart of the matter is the notion of length/angle (or

Re: [RBW] Re: Shimmy!

2010-08-10 Thread Rene Sterental
Thanks for setting me straight again! :-) I obviously missed the beginning of the thread. My apologies to the OP... :-) René On 8/10/10, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 8/10/10 4:38 AM, Rene Sterental at orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I made my assumption: i tense up

[RBW] Re: alternative color hoods for tektro drop bar V-brake levers

2010-08-10 Thread Jeremy Till
A lot of larger online retailers that sell brake levers will often have replacement hoods for them, if they're available. For instance, here jenson has replacement hoods for the shorter pull cane creek aero levers (which will also work on the tektro R200), in both black and gum:

[RBW] Re: VO 50.4 BCD Crankset is here

2010-08-10 Thread stevep33
A side by side comparison of the TA's and the new VO cranks, both in appearance and function, would be interesting. I'm sure there is some trade off between price and quality (and labor economics). And we all know that even the best vendors in the bike business work hard for their dollar. On

[RBW] Re: Grant doesn't TOTALLY discount the value of TT length

2010-08-10 Thread Ken Yokanovich
I think the whole idea of top tube length not mattering might be a bit controversial because it seems SO EMPHASIZED in the rest of the bicycle industry as THE KEY MEASURE of bicycle fit. Sales and marketing teams have gotten lazy with trying to explain how compact frame designs designated as

Re: [RBW] Hillbourne handling - was: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-10 Thread andrew hill
This note on the frame drawing thread struck me, as both Andrew and Patrick Moore have said the same thing. I'm surprised, actually, that even on the slacker (even by Riv standards) Hillbourne seat tube you still feel the need to push the saddle so far back, though that would certainly

[RBW] Re: Hillbourne handling - was: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-10 Thread neurodrum
oh - whups that's actually a long TT at 622.. not sure why i thought it was short. so maybe that's part of it. Well, my stats (phb 84.5, 5'11, short limbs, all torso) have always made bike fittings hard.  with typical road bikes i've been way too far forward out over the front wheel, and it

[RBW] Looking for an All Rounder frame

2010-08-10 Thread kevin lindsey
Greetings. As an utter newbie here - heck, I don't even own a Rivendell - this may be an inappropriate posting. If so, please forgive my ignorance. I'm looking to buy an All Rounder frame for restoration and rebuild. Due to genetic laziness and a bit of procrastination, I just yesterday missed

Re: [RBW] Looking for an All Rounder frame

2010-08-10 Thread BPustow
Kevin, You may want to mention what size you're looking for. Bill In a message dated 8/10/2010 6:41:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lindsey.ke...@gmail.com writes: Greetings. As an utter newbie here - heck, I don't even own a Rivendell - this may be an inappropriate posting. If so,

Re: [RBW] Looking for an All Rounder frame

2010-08-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 12:00 -0700, kevin lindsey wrote: Greetings. As an utter newbie here - heck, I don't even own a Rivendell - this may be an inappropriate posting. If so, please forgive my ignorance. I'm looking to buy an All Rounder frame for restoration and rebuild. Due to genetic

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant doesn't TOTALLY discount the value of TT length

2010-08-10 Thread Shaun Meehan
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[RBW] Re: Looking for an All Rounder frame

2010-08-10 Thread Rocky B
What size are you looking for? There's a Riv All-Rounder on eBay right now: http://cgi.ebay.com/1996-Rivendell-All-Rounder-54cm-/110570156443?pt=Road_Bikes#ht_500wt_1154 On Aug 10, 2:00 pm, kevin lindsey lindsey.ke...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings. As an utter newbie here - heck, I don't even

[RBW] Re: Hillbourne handling - was: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-10 Thread Michael_S
I don't understand this wandering effect in the front end. I'm on a 56cm Hillborne with a VO 30mm setback seatpost with the B17 almost all the way back ( long femurs) and the bike seems rock solid. I have not had any load on it but the bike is the most stable bike I've ever owned. FTR Im 5' 11

[RBW] Re: Time to think, time to ride: Sage-scrub Special along the coast

2010-08-10 Thread Michael_S
Missed this topic... was backpacking supplies in to some John Muir Trail through hikers over Kearsarge pass in the Sierra's. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347...@n05/sets/72157624690965960/ But Doug you forgot the high real estate prices, aggressive drivers and arid, desert like hills. ~Mike~

[RBW] Re: Time to think, time to ride: Sage-scrub Special along the coast

2010-08-10 Thread William
Dang Mike Before kids we used to do Onion Valley every year. My best ride on my old Orange XO1 was the descent/climb from Onion Valley down to Independence and back. The kids are old enough now to go back. Thanks for showing that it's right where I saw it last. Bill On Aug 10, 4:54 pm,

Re: [RBW] Re: Hillbourne handling - was: Grant discounts the value of top tube length

2010-08-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
In my case, Riv installed the hs, and it is fine; and again, saddle setback is the First Principle and immutable; can't move it for something as minor as handling. My other Rivs are the epitome of butt-back, light on the front absolutely error free handling; the Sam Hill feels as if it were

[RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-10 Thread Michael_S
one hour to the showdown! It would be nice to have but I'd want to re- paint it. If it goes for under a Thou. I mght be tempted... ~Mike~ On Aug 10, 6:03 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: BUT, that still leaves me wondering if I am just slightly outbid.  I ponder the question

[RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet

2010-08-10 Thread William
I bid my absolute max just now, and I am leading. I'll be fine with losing if I lose, and happy with winning if I win. Based on where the price is now, I'd say I'm about 80% sure I'll be sniped out of it, but I'm fine with that. The seller sounds like a cool guy and I hope he is happy with what

[RBW] Schwinn Paramount 700c Conversion Country Bike

2010-08-10 Thread Jim Cloud
I had a post, a while back, regarding questions about the Rivendell Silver/Tektro R556 brakes, in regard to a 700c conversion that I was considering for an older Schwinn Paramount 27 wheel size bicycle. This isn't strictly speaking a Rivendell content post, but I think it has some relationship to

[RBW] Re: Schwinn Paramount 700c Conversion Country Bike

2010-08-10 Thread JoelMatthews
At any rate, I'm pleased with the conversion. I'll bet you are! Very good job. Mr. Schwinn looks right handsome in his Riv clothes. This isn't strictly speaking a Rivendell content post, but I think it has some relationship to the type of bikes that Rivendell is building, especially the

[RBW] Re: Schwinn Paramount 700c Conversion Country Bike

2010-08-10 Thread doug peterson
That really came out nice. I dunno, but polished lugs, a front rack, a triple,...looks pretty Rivish to me. The matching pump plus single bottle cage is cool. Hey, I recognize those shifters - got a few of those myself; they're the best. dougP On Aug 10, 6:44 pm, JoelMatthews

[RBW] Re: Schwinn Paramount 700c Conversion Country Bike

2010-08-10 Thread ejg
Jim, that bike is gorgeous. On Aug 10, 9:39 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: I had a post, a while back, regarding questions about the Rivendell Silver/Tektro R556 brakes, in regard to a 700c conversion that I was considering for an older Schwinn Paramount 27 wheel size bicycle. This

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