[RBW] Re: Hillborne 6-degree upsloping top tube

Joe, it does feel calmer. That's a good way to put it. Descends very well, excellent on the flats, stable, comfortable...all the attributes one would associate with a Rivendell. I have often wondered if it isn't just a size issue. That is, I was between sizes and was encouraged to go up and get

Re: [RBW] Hillborne 6-degree upsloping top tube

Joe, that’s pretty intuitive on your part. You may be right; it could be time to roll on some new wheels. I’m always interested in hearing how other rider’s perceptions may or may not jibe with mine. Every rider has an opinion, and each opinion is completely valid. It’s nutty how for one rider

Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne 6-degree upsloping top tube

Interesting you mention that, because now the choice is 58cm or 62cm, I believe. (In 2009 it was 56 or 60). If the frame is the same as it was in 2009, I’d most likely feel I had a better fit with the current 58. That would probably be my sweet spot in this frame. Although, the frame may have ch

[RBW] Re: Hillborne 6-degree upsloping top tube

bly the Roadini, but I doubt level top > tubes will be prominent on Riv-production bikes. There are too many sizes > to accommodate for. > > > > On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 7:53:23 PM UTC-5, John Bokman wrote: >> >> Joe, it does feel calmer. That's a good wa

[RBW] Re: Hillborne 6-degree upsloping top tube

Bill, thanks for the thoughts. I actually do think the type of bike is good for me, because I regularly haul heavy groceries - easily 30 pounds. I don't expect the Sam to be sprightly when I'm hauling weight, of course (wouldn't that be nice?). It's the when I remove all the weight and climb t

[RBW] Re: Hillborne 6-degree upsloping top tube

urrent Atlantis has > thicker tubing than the early generation ones, but Riv doesn't like to talk > about tubing so I'm not sure. > > > -Dave J > > > On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 5:29:16 PM UTC-5, John Bokman wrote: >> >> I'm trying to discern if

[RBW] Re: Hillborne 6-degree upsloping top tube

ppy day rides. I believe the current Atlantis has > thicker tubing than the early generation ones, but Riv doesn't like to talk > about tubing so I'm not sure. > > > -Dave J > > > On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 5:29:16 PM UTC-5, John Bokman wrote: >> >&g

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

I have the Tektro 720 on my 2009 Sam, and have been impressed with their power and good enough modulation. Inexpensive, too. But I do get significant brake shudder. I was surprised to read that Jan says the 720s are too flexible to function optimally. I haven't noticed this. Logic would tell m

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

Curious if you've tried the VO Zeste Cantis on another bike? They look like well designed brakes. On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 9:03:13 PM UTC-8, Ash A wrote: > > Wish I had known about these before I got VO Zeste Cantis for the > Appaloosa I'm going to build soon. Given the tire clearance (

[RBW] 2009 Geometry charts?

Hi all. I'm looking for the Geo chart for the 2009 model year. Specifically I'm looking for the Hillborne specs. It has undergone some changes since then - notably frame size differences. Thanks for any help you can offer. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

[RBW] Re: Low riders on the Saluki

I can't speak for Ortlieb use, since I'm a Lone Peak guy, but the Tara gets my vote for sure. Excellent quality. Strong, stiff, light. Easy to mount. I use the Tubus brackets that fit around the forks for mounting since the fork braze ons are in the wrong place for the Tara. Much nicer than P-

Re: [RBW] Re: 2009 Geometry charts?

Thanks Ryan, I forgot about that resource (for shame!). > On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Ryan Fleming > wrote: > > Cyclofiend's site perhaps? Just a guess > > On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 10:56:35 PM UTC-6, John Bokman wrote: > Hi all. I'm looking for the Ge

Re: [RBW] Re: 2009 Geometry charts?

/drive.google.com/file/d/0BwiqqlgYXXvxNGo3ZVFTWHZBNkE/view?usp=sharing> > > > On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 11:56:35 PM UTC-5, John Bokman wrote: > Hi all. I'm looking for the Geo chart for the 2009 model year. Specifically > I'm looking for the Hillborne specs. It has

[RBW] WTB: 56 or 58cm Sam Hillborne frame/fork

Hello all. I am hoping to find an old- school 56 cm or newer-school 58cm Sam Hillborne, preferably just frame and fork. I own a 60cm and want to downsize. Please contact me off list. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: Roadini!

That Blue looks nice! Trying to decide if the Roadeo is worth the extra bones. I really love the aesthetics of the Roadeo (close to parallel top tube rather than upsloping), but based on the literature I've seen, hard to justify the extra cash based on ride quality. On Thursday, August 3, 20

[RBW] Re: Roadini!

Looks like the tubing is different, but to what degree I can't say. The statement that the butted ends are cut down to reduce excess heft doesn't mean much to me since I'm ignorant about the process. I do know that I want a light, svelt feeling road bike. However, my new Sam (2017) tube set is

[RBW] Re: Roadini!

Sorry. Was speaking to the differences between the Roadini and Roadeo. Still dreaming in my own mind! On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 7:50:34 PM UTC-7, John Bokman wrote: > > Looks like the tubing is different, but to what degree I can't say. The > statement that the butted ends a

[RBW] Re: PSA: 55cm Rivendell All-Rounder - $1200

Wow, that's a stunning ride Dave! On Saturday, September 16, 2017 at 12:19:00 PM UTC-7, Dave Johnston wrote: > > > > Here is a picture of my 56cm Atlantis and

[RBW] WTB: Old School Grundens Poncho size L

Hi All. My wife uses the New School Grundens for her commute; I'm trying to find her an Old School cape. Reason being, she had an Old School, loved it, and it was stolen when her bike was stolen (It was left in the carradice saddlebag). I got her a New School as a replacement, but it's a new des

Re: [RBW] WTB: Old School Grundens Poncho size L

#x27;ve been getting short but heavy downpours during the > last few days. We may make the 9" citywide average this year!) > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 4:50 PM, John Bokman <mailto:jpbco...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi All. My wife uses the New School Grundens for her commute

[RBW] Re: Afternoon ride from home into the mountains and back on my Sam

I ride a Sammy with 44cm Noodles and love love love it! Been on it - or "in it" - since 2009. If I were to change bars - not planning on it - Id go with the Albastache. I know the Deacon has enthused about these before, so I won't bother, since I haven't used them. I have, however, ridden the ol

[RBW] Re: Hip Pack Recommendations

Take a look at Lone Peak. They make the most durable packs I've used. I'm still using panniers I purchased in 1992. The zippers are super strong, cordura is triple stitched, designs are well thought-out. They are made in Washington. On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 12:58:40 PM UTC-8, Dave Gross

[RBW] FS: Shimano CX-70 brakes, NIB

Bobbers, I've got front and rear, New-In-Box Shimano CX-70 brakes for sale. How bout &100, shipped CONUS? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to r

[RBW] Re: FS: Shimano CX-70 brakes, NIB

Sold. Thanks Brian. On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 12:46:01 PM UTC-8, Brian Campbell wrote: > > PM sent. > > > On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 6:55:07 PM UTC-5, John Bokman wrote: >> >> Bobbers, I've got front and rear, New-In-Box Shimano CX-70 brakes for >&

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

Can't find info on how big a tire the Roadini can fit? Especially with fenders (I know some offer more clearance than others)? A roadini with 35mm tires and center pull brakes is making me think hard about a 57Maybe albastache bars On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 at 3:55:24 PM UTC-8, Bill L

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

OADINI-clearance-020519.JPG] > > > Jeff Hagedorn > Los Angeles, CA USA > > On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 at 5:33:58 PM UTC-8, John Bokman wrote: >> >> Can't find info on how big a tire the Roadini can fit? Especially with >> fenders (I know some offer more clearan

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

Bill, that looks very nice. I was hoping to run Bon Jons with fenders and the Diacompe centerpull brakes. Not sure if I'd be able to do so, but I sure am tempted to try! If I could not run the Bon Jons, I could, perhaps, go to a Jack Brown Green, which I've really enjoyed - except that they don'

[RBW] Sugino 40x26 wide low double?

Any thoughts on this setup vs. the Sugino XD-2 tripple (46/36/24)? I know the double has a lower top end. I guess what I"m most curious about is the Q-factor. I can't find info on the Q of the Wide Low double. I've been riding doubles for a while, and like them, in general (VO 46/30 and a mish-

[RBW] Re: Sugino 40x26 wide low double?

Thanks Joe. On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 4:47:23 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > The Q is the same, you're just replacing the big ring with a chainguard. > The main benefit of a Wide-Low double is you can set the fd stops to cover > just the two rings, making friction front shifting almost

[RBW] Swaping one Riv for another

I'm a super-duper happy owner of a Sam. It's a fantastic commuter. (I know it can do more, but don't). However...I have always wanted an Atlantis. Now, it's (almost) affordable for me. I've been thinking of getting an Atlantis in 650 B, using it as my commuter (and hopefully, touring bike if I

[RBW] Re: Swaping one Riv for another

ntastic bike and so is my roadish > Sam. I feel that the Sam/Joe combo will suit all my cycling needs for years > to come. Get the MIT Atlantis to complement your Sam. There is enough of a > difference to make it worthwhile. > > Tim > > On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 8:32:09

[RBW] Re: Swaping one Riv for another

s a fantastic bike and so is my >>> roadish Sam. I feel that the Sam/Joe combo will suit all my cycling needs >>> for years to come. Get the MIT Atlantis to complement your Sam. There is >>> enough of a difference to make it worthwhile. >>> >>> Tim >&g

[RBW] Re: FS big nitto front rack 34F

Tom, could you tell me what kind of panniers you used with this rack? Looking at the triangulation of the rack, I"m wondering if those added supports might prevent me from mounting my Lone Peak panniers. I can't adjust the hooks, unlike an ortlieb or some such. Do you know if this rack was desig

Re: [RBW] Re: FS big nitto front rack 34F

a set of smaller > ortleibs and larger ones > > Both mounted fine on the nitto front rack > > Not sure the triangles will get in yr way a pretty big rack be glad to > measure it if you want > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 27, 2019, at 6:14 PM, John Bokman <ma

[RBW] Carradice Super C Pannier question

Does anyone have the "new" Super C's with the cam-style hooks and lower securing clip? I'm curious if the "new" mounting system is: 1. As secure as a standard good ol' hooks and bungee system, and 2. A hassle to get on and off? I love Carradice stuff, but am dubious about this securing system. -

Re: [RBW] Carradice Super C Pannier question

om the rack). The Ortlieb closure > seems very size specific (in regard to the rack tubing diameter), whereas the > Carradice accommodates a wider range and can tighten around different > diameter racks no problem. > > Toshi > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:28 AM John Bokm

Re: [RBW] Carradice Super C Pannier question

ungy or strap to put around the outside if I was more worried > about that hook on another tour. > > Darin > > On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 11:24:37 AM UTC-8, John Bokman wrote: > Thanks for the information Toshi. > We are talking about the same bags. > Good to know they are se

Re: [RBW] Carradice Super C Pannier question

Thanks for the head’s up, Patrick. I have seen these before, and they look like excellent bags. However, since I’ll be using these for commuting and shopping, and need to install and remove frequently, I’m thinking the attachment may not be the best for my use. I have happily been using Lone P

Re: [RBW] Carradice Super C Pannier question

Deacon, I hitch my hoss (Sam) to the post all day and can’t leave the saddlebags. I use my saddlebags not just for grocery shopping, but for my work stuff (I teach and need 3-ring binders, notebooks, books, etc.). I also want bags that do 2x duty for touring, when I get the chance. So, conserva

Re: [RBW] Carradice Super C Pannier question

John, thanks a lot for the head’s up. I actually live not far from their headquarters here in Portland. I have not given them serious consideration before. I will give them a better look. They do look like nice bags. I must admit I’ve been a little off-put by the price. But if they give value ov

Re: [RBW] Re: Carradice Super C Pannier question

gt; > > Craig in Tucson > > On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 11:28:22 AM UTC-7, John Bokman wrote: > Does anyone have the "new" Super C's with the cam-style hooks and lower > securing clip? > I'm curious if the "new" mounting system is: > 1. As sec

Re: [RBW] Re: Carradice Super C Pannier question

To all who helped elucidate me: Thank You! I struggled with the choice, but in the end ordered a set of Super C Rear bags from SJS. Ride with the wind at your backs. John On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 9:42:16 PM UTC-8, Ian A wrote: > > +1. I bought a pair of Super C front panniers from SJS and p

Re: [RBW] Re: Carradice Super C Pannier question

Sean, thanks for the reply. Q: Since you use the Universal front bags: In your estimation would I be able to fit a 3-ring binder or a few of them in there? I did not get them because it looks like they taper down pretty narrow (6” wide by my rough calculation) at the bottom. And they don’t look

[RBW] Re: Carradice Super C front pannier fit

Thanks Toshi! This is the information I was after. I suspected as much, so ordered the Super C Rear panniers. If I find they are too monsterous for my daily riding needs, I may well try their commuter pannier for my everyday riding and reserve the Rear's for tours or major grocery trips. On Mo

Re: [RBW] Re: Carradice Super C Pannier question

Thanks Sean. That’s what I was thinking. I have some Super C Rear bags coming. Wish the front bags were in between the size they are, and the large. Very nice looking bags. They would be great for overnight trips and the like. > On Mar 6, 2019, at 9:34 AM, sean wrote: > > Hi John, > > The outs

[RBW] Re: New bike day. 56cm 650B Atlantis

Time for a review yet? I'm eager to hear about the ride - especially with the long stays. On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 10:30:21 AM UTC-8, Mark Schneider wrote: > > That's one sweet build Bill, look forward to a review. > > Mark > > On Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 2:45:36 PM UTC-8, Bill Linds

[RBW] Re: Anyone have Rivendell Reader #23?

Reed, I have it. Would be glad to send to you if you get it back to me. I don't have a way to scan it. On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 10:27:50 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote: > > I just realized the copy of Rivendell Reader #23 up on my site is missing > a *bunch* of pages. Including the pages on th

[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

Adam, could you tell me: What size basket? What width handlebars? What's the bag in the basket? I'm considering putting a rack on my 58 cm Sam, you see. I run 44cm noodles. Not sure if the big basket wouldn't just be too massive, but unsure. On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 11:29:13 AM UTC-8, Ada

[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Fans: anyone tried the 50cm So Bar?

Darin, curious how you notice the difference between your 46cm Noodles vs. your Nitto RM-13. I ask because I have thought about trying the RM-013. Although I like my noodles (in 44cm), at times I wish for a little more flare so my forearms don't hit the tops when in the hooks, sprinting. On Thu

Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bar Fans: anyone tried the 50cm So Bar?

Thanks for that Brian. I’ll keep this in mind. Not sure if I want to try an even wider bar or not at the moment. While I like the 44cm noodles, I’m tempted to try the “true” 48 cm width, only with more flare, so I might want to try the 52cm RM-013 rather than the 48cm. But as I said, this is all

Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

Thanks for the specs Adam. Happy riding! > On Mar 22, 2019, at 10:46 AM, Adam Leibow wrote: > > Jon Dukeman - yes 2 ring silver cranks, but I'm going to make the big ring a > narrow wide. > > John Bokman - 46mm nitto noodles, small wald (137). There's a Donut Sac

[RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

Mark, for the record, I wear a helmet ever since I was hit by a car (hit and run driver). I was not wearing a helmet at the time. The driver ran right through a stop sign and directly into my left side in the middle of the intersection. I was thrown up onto the hood of the car, and rolled off,

[RBW] Re: Any Green Marathonnriders?

Ian, great intel from your tour. Sounds like a good one! By chance did you ever ride with the Supremes? Curious how the Almotions compare? I still have one Supreme (700x35) in use, but have no more, since they've been discontinued. I've found them to be excellent tires. I know Schwalbe came out

[RBW] Re: Fall Photos 2024

Gorgeous frame Tom! Which model is this? What bars are you using? John On Monday, September 23, 2024 at 7:37:33 AM UTC-7 Tom Goodmann wrote: > [image: IMG_0197.jpeg] > > Tour de Farms last Sunday, 9/15; 30-mile loop from Shoreham, VT; faint > tinges of color near Lake Champlain, all coming on s

Re: [RBW] Re: (perhaps) dumb question time (bottle bosses)

Quite the collection, Richard! I'm confident I'm not the only one who would like to see more photos of those gorgeous bikes. John On Monday, September 23, 2024 at 5:15:47 AM UTC-7 Richard Borneman wrote: > First Generation Sam. The bike I ride most of the time. > [image: IMG_4701.jpeg] > > On

Re: [RBW] Re: Knicker Quest

I've considered these a few times, but the inseam length in a size M is 15"? I'd want at least an 18" inseam to cover my knees properly. Can anyone report on actual inseam length? (Aside; most knickers I've seen in the "bike market" have inseams too short. Rene Herse gets the length right; ther

Re: [RBW] Fall Photos 2024

bit, all to the good. IMHO this > bike needs—and deserves—a refresh from Joe Bell. Great color, right? > > The bars are Salsa Cowchippers. Can’t say enough about Goodrich frames! > > Tom > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 12:56 PM John Bokman <mailto:jpbco...@gmail.com>&g

Re: [RBW] Any Green Marathonnriders?

cing options. Need a studded folding 26"x4.8" tire? No problem! > https://www.bike-discount.de/en/schwalbe-al-mighty-evo-26x4.80-spike-folding-tire > > IanA Alberta Canada > > On Monday, September 23, 2024 at 10:48:57 AM UTC-6 John Bokman wrote: > Ian, great intel

Re: [RBW] Re: Knicker Quest

tely covered - but they don't > ride up above my knees. I got like a 35in inseam or so. > > I'm debating to try the Rivendell baggies. Kinda pricey for me, but they > look about like where I end up rolling my pants to. > > cheers. > > On Sunday, September

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