[RBW] Re: Roaduno catnip

[Brett Callahan]

Ah, right you are, Garth. I should've googled before posting. I assumed 
they should be sunk in as is the case on my similar stem from Analog 
Cycles. I stand corrected!

On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 10:37:05 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> If you go to the IRiv or RD website Brett you'll see a nice detailed image 
> showing the flush interface. Nitto welded stems are not flush either. I can 
> relate to the sentiment  "I remember when back in the day people gave a 
> damm about making bike parts with elegance". 
> On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 12:57:44 PM UTC-4 brettjc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Detour of sorts. Do the bolts on the IRD version of the faceplater stem 
>> look off to anyone else?  Shouldn't they be sunk into the...'holder bits'?  
>> (the photo is of the stem on the roaduno from the blog post above, BTW. 
>> Brett
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 11:34:38 AM UTC-7 Edwin W wrote:
>>
>>> According to the latest blahg/blug:
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/june
>>>
>>> "December: ROADUNO Frames and completes. PurpleRiv Purple, Dark 
>>> Orange"
>>>
>>> "The complete RoadUno bikes will probably come with a double and a 
>>> chainguard. It's hard for US to pick your ideal gearing, but basically, if 
>>> you live in a hilly area like I do, a triple beats a double. If your land 
>>> is flat or you'll ride a normal geared bike in the hills, then two 
>>> chainrings is enough. The complete RoadUnos will come with two rings, but 
>>> no shifter or front derailer, and no rear derailer, but with "track-style" 
>>> dropouts with a cable hanger. So multi-gearing it from one to two or three, 
>>> is a minor DIY project."
>>> "The RoadUno will be PurpleRiv Purple and a new ("Sergio") green."
>>>
>>> So probably Purple and either Sergio green or dark orange.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to seeing what they actually look like and how the 
>>> completes come. I am guessing mid 2024.
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>> Nashville
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 9:02:00 AM UTC-6 dane...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Nice. Cool bike.

 -Dan
 NJ

 On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:00:14 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> Depends on your body proportions. I have a long torso so my long bikes 
> do not have swept back bars. My main ride last year was a Rivendell 
> Mystery 
> Bike single speed[image: EG2s.jpg], but as you can see in the photo - 
> hills are pretty non-existent here.
>
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 9:54:30 AM UTC-5 dane...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> It seems this bike will be stickin with the longer chain stay/longer 
>> front end for swept bars style of things.  Has anyone ridden that type 
>> of 
>> Rivendell single speed often?  I'm curious what it feels like to do a 
>> lot 
>> of out of the saddle climbing in a hilly area.  
>>
>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 7:00:56 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> Keep in mind that, at some point after Grant revealed that 
>>> purple/orange one, Will said that it was basically irrelevant because 
>>> they 
>>> were making so many changes.  
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 1:23:26 PM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>>>
 Thank you Doug. I think that was the only blug post that I didn't 
 look at the other day.

 JohnS

 On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:13:06 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> I want one with Bullmoose bars and cantilevers, in purple of 
> course. Need is a different matter...
>
> Laing
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:03:07 AM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> John,
>> There is one on the linked blog below. You'll need to scroll a 
>> bit to find the photo. Note that the fork is mismatched. 
>> Blog 
>> 
>> Doug
>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 10:50:53 AM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Does any one have a link to a picture of a fully built Roaduno? 
>>> I was looking for one the other day and the closest I could find 
>>> was the 
>>> pics of the three frames without paint. 
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:34:41 AM UTC-5 mark e wrote:
>>>
 I am excited to see the Uno in purple. 

 On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 6:13:09 PM UTC-5 Edwin W wrote:

> From Will's email update today:
> September: Roaduno complete and frames (lime-olive, purple and 
> dark gold).
>
> That's good news!
>
> Roaduno dreaming,
>
> Edwin
>

[RBW] Re: Roaduno catnip

[Brett Callahan]

Detour of sorts. Do the bolts on the IRD version of the faceplater stem 
look off to anyone else?  Shouldn't they be sunk into the...'holder bits'?  
(the photo is of the stem on the roaduno from the blog post above, BTW. 
Brett



On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 11:34:38 AM UTC-7 Edwin W wrote:

> According to the latest blahg/blug:
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/june
>
> "December: ROADUNO Frames and completes. PurpleRiv Purple, Dark Orange"
>
> "The complete RoadUno bikes will probably come with a double and a 
> chainguard. It's hard for US to pick your ideal gearing, but basically, if 
> you live in a hilly area like I do, a triple beats a double. If your land 
> is flat or you'll ride a normal geared bike in the hills, then two 
> chainrings is enough. The complete RoadUnos will come with two rings, but 
> no shifter or front derailer, and no rear derailer, but with "track-style" 
> dropouts with a cable hanger. So multi-gearing it from one to two or three, 
> is a minor DIY project."
> "The RoadUno will be PurpleRiv Purple and a new ("Sergio") green."
>
> So probably Purple and either Sergio green or dark orange.
>
> Looking forward to seeing what they actually look like and how the 
> completes come. I am guessing mid 2024.
>
> Edwin
> Nashville
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 9:02:00 AM UTC-6 dane...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Nice. Cool bike.
>>
>> -Dan
>> NJ
>>
>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:00:14 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> Depends on your body proportions. I have a long torso so my long bikes 
>>> do not have swept back bars. My main ride last year was a Rivendell Mystery 
>>> Bike single speed[image: EG2s.jpg], but as you can see in the photo - 
>>> hills are pretty non-existent here.
>>>
>>>
>>> Laing
>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 9:54:30 AM UTC-5 dane...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It seems this bike will be stickin with the longer chain stay/longer 
 front end for swept bars style of things.  Has anyone ridden that type of 
 Rivendell single speed often?  I'm curious what it feels like to do a lot 
 of out of the saddle climbing in a hilly area.  

 On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 7:00:56 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> Keep in mind that, at some point after Grant revealed that 
> purple/orange one, Will said that it was basically irrelevant because 
> they 
> were making so many changes.  
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 1:23:26 PM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you Doug. I think that was the only blug post that I didn't 
>> look at the other day.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:13:06 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> I want one with Bullmoose bars and cantilevers, in purple of course. 
>>> Need is a different matter...
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:03:07 AM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 John,
 There is one on the linked blog below. You'll need to scroll a bit 
 to find the photo. Note that the fork is mismatched. 
 Blog 
 
 Doug
 On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 10:50:53 AM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:

> Does any one have a link to a picture of a fully built Roaduno? I 
> was looking for one the other day and the closest I could find was 
> the pics 
> of the three frames without paint. 
>
> Thanks!
> JohnS
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:34:41 AM UTC-5 mark e wrote:
>
>> I am excited to see the Uno in purple. 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 6:13:09 PM UTC-5 Edwin W wrote:
>>
>>> From Will's email update today:
>>> September: Roaduno complete and frames (lime-olive, purple and 
>>> dark gold).
>>>
>>> That's good news!
>>>
>>> Roaduno dreaming,
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: 173 v. 178 Crank Arms?

[Brett Callahan]

Is toe overlap an issue for you on this bike? Would it be if you added 
fenders? Do you ever intend to add fenders? 

I think the other arguments in this thread, both pro and con, are 
articulate. Personally, I hate to overlap and would make my decision based 
on whether this will make it a problem, or worsen a problem. 
On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 12:49:19 PM UTC-7 ryan.tre...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Matt,
>
> There's a long thread on the i-bob group site on this topic as well.  I 
> just bought some longer cranks (my PBH is 91 and I'm 6'2") - riv is selling 
> 184's now, so I got some.  I went form 175's to 184's, so a bigger jump 
> that what you're looking to do.  It's slightly noticeable.   I do like the 
> longer ones better, but it's probably personal preference.  Most noticeable 
> aspect is a slightly lower cadence, which I personally like, but it doesn't 
> make that much of a difference tbh.  I had 178's on a 58 cm appaloosa I 
> used to own so it should fit fine (if memory serves, I think I actually 
> sold that frame to you several years ago, lol).  Currently, I have 178's on 
> my Clem L (in addition to the 184's on my Roadini) and don't have any 
> problems with pedal strike.  Just don't pedal through corners.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 8:00:16 AM UTC-6 Stephen wrote:
>
>> My experience with crank length is that it is not very noticeable. I 
>> think I have the 173 silvers on my appaloosa, have 175's on my ram, and 
>> also have 165's on another bike. I ride flat pedals all the time and tend 
>> to adjust my foot position slightly throughout rides, probably more 
>> noticeable clipped in. At this point I'd say I'm partial towards a shorter 
>> crank (I like the 165-170 range, personally I would'nt go above 175) to 
>> avoid more pedal strike, but it also depends a little on the bike. Shorter 
>> cranks raises your saddle a little, but again, its all very slight. I think 
>> I've even seen Will in a riv email say that crank length doesn't matter 
>> that much/don't overthink it..
>>
>> for reference I'm around 6'2 with a 92ish pbh, I ride the 60cm Joe. 
>>
>> -Stephen 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 8:55:31 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> Save your cash . 
>>>
>>> I'd ask why are you considering longer arms ?  
>>>
>>> My experience with longer cranks(up to 185mm) is that they didn't live 
>>> up to the promise the crank length theories based on leg dimensions 
>>> claimed. Theories are theories after all. The opposite way works for me. 
>>> Foot further forward of the axle and much shorter arms(150mm) works 
>>> brilliant for me. Ease of leg speed and leverage. I'm not alone in this 
>>> discovery of course, it's just that it doesn't fit into any of the en-vogue 
>>> formulas, so few bother to challenge it. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 12:55:02 AM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>>
 I'm 6' 1" give or take with a 89.5pbh. 've ridden 165-180mm cranks. My 
 preference is typically 165-170. I like the pedal clearance and prefer 
 higher cadence riding. I generally get used to whatever I am riding 
 though. 
 No science based or anatomical insight, but I feel like outside of 
 marginal 
 gains and maybe physiological anomalies ones body will adapt to whatever. 

 I wouldn't over think it. If you want some new cranks and got the cash, 
 why not give it a try. 

 On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 8:26:28 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Hi everyone, 
>
> I am considering switching my crank arms. My existing arms are 173; 
> I’m thinking about going to 178. Here are the existing specs: 
>
> Bike: Appaloosa 58cm with 700c wheels 
> PBH: 90.5 
> I’m 6’ tall and I have long legs. 
>
> Here are my questions: 
>
> 1: Will 178 arms work on my bike, or will I not have enough ground 
> clearance? 
>
> 2: Why was the bike originally built with 173 arms? Is it a 
> standard/average size, better ground clearance, better fit for the 
> average 
> user, toe-hitting-the-front-wheel, or another reason? 
>
> 3: Is the 173 v. 178 difference so minimal that I won’t notice it? 
>
> As always, your experience, wisdom, advice, and opinions are 
> appreciated. Thanks, everyone. 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Chris King Open House

[Brett Callahan]

Mike, thanks for posting these. I missed the open house last weekend and 
enjoyed the photos. 

Brett

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:20:34 PM UTC-7 velomann wrote:

> I know this kind of bike bling doesn't appeal to everyone on this list, 
> but after a 3-year absence, Chris King opened their doors again today for a 
> small custom bike show and bike geek hang fest. I always enjoy the heck out 
> of this event, and it was even sweeter for us to all gather again in person 
> post-pandemic to celebrate bikes and riding.
>
> The event is used by CK to showcase the new colorway - it's kept pretty 
> hush-hush, but supplied to the custom builders, who design the bikes to 
> showcase the hubs/headsets/bottom brackets. It might be difficult to see in 
> the pictures, but the new colorway is a matte finish dark gray/blue. I 
> forget what they call it. Depending on the light it looks almost black or 
> dark navy. Very subtle and subdued compared to some recent colors. 
> Consequently, many of the builders chose raw or anodized titanium, or 
> various shades of blue (The Best Bike Color IMHO). 
>
> But the highlight of the show was the students from our local Benson 
> Polytechnic High School showing off one of their custom frames and talking 
> about the program. They currently have 25 (!) frame jigs, and a full class 
> (including several female students). The instructor is a former United 
> Bicycle Institute instructor. Each student gets to build (and keep) their 
> own frame. Really inspiring!
> A few pics in my flickr album here: https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAbmPb
>
> Mike M
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

[Brett Callahan]

PSA:  Looks like those longer reach dia compe are in stock at Soma Fab.  

 They're 
not cheap.

My experience with 559 vs. Paul centerpulls on a caliper brake Hillborne 
model was that the CP's stopped a little better than 559's  in the dry, and 
'felt' better, probably because less flex. However, braking in the dry from 
both was satisfactory with Kool Stop pads.  In the wet, (actively raining, 
hard) neither brake stopped worth a damn. 
Caveats: I'm a big guy at 250+ and really well set up cantis don't stop me 
in the wet all that well either.  For wet weather braking, a bike with 
discs or to a lesser extent V-brakes are the way to go, I think. 

Brett

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:15:23 AM UTC-7 Patch T wrote:

> Hey Patrick - this diagram with measurements is from the Grand Bois 
> website.  https://cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/gb_ch_m.html
> Hope it's helpful!
>
> I highly recommend going through Jitensha Studio. I live in NYC and they 
> made this transaction super easy, the parts got to me quickly, shipping was 
> better than it would have been from Japan. And I like that when I want 
> parts from the likes of Peter White or Hiroshi-san, I have to call and 
> speak with a human :)
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-07-19 at 10.00.00 AM.png]
>
> Patch
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:12:00 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I'm glad you mentioned these, as I'd not heard of them. They look nice, 
>> and if they stop as you say, then they are very good deals at half the 
>> price -- or less -- of Paul's. 
>>
>> The website does not say; how long a reach do they have? And: Will the 
>> wider ones fit 42s and fenders? If so, I almost wish I'd had my 2020 
>> Matthews built for these instead of cantilevers (also Paul's).
>>
>> I must get a pair of those lovely non-aero levers; besides, it would be 
>> an opportunity to finally by a HP 20 pump chuck. 
>>
>> Curious: Besides calling Jitensha, can you order the DC levers online 
>> anywhere? A quick Google (v,t) did not help. 
>>
>> Also, unrelated except by the Jitensha site: Has anyone used these 650 
>> latex tubes? 58 grams??? Those are lighter than the Schwalbe XL 559 X 42s I 
>> use on the Matthews, which are a burdensome 90 grams and cost a plebian $15 
>> each.
>>
>> 650 X 36-42B, latex super lightweight, made by Soyo, 34mm valve stem, 58g 
>>  $35.00 ea
>>
>> How neat would it be to have tubes that weigh the less than my extralight 
>> 571/559 X 23 mm (60 gr advertised, 70 grams actual) and cost more than some 
>> tires I've used?
>>
>> And I see that they still offer their wool-mix knickers and socks; 
>> wonderful. Since Rick Risemberg's store is long gone, it's good to know 
>> that really nice cycling knickers and socks are still available -- the Riv, 
>> Swrv, etc knickers I've used simply don't fit as well as the old fashioned 
>> type like these that are cut like regular street pants in waist and hips.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 6:27 PM Patch T  wrote:
>>
>>> I've used a set of these Grand Bois "Chouette" long reach centerpulls 
>>> for a conversion, using a backing plate:
>>> https://www.jitensha.com/eng/brakes.html
>>>
>>> Decent value, great looks, maybe finicky to set up, but fantastic 
>>> braking power. I love my MiniMotos and love these, too. They have very 
>>> different feels, but are both very effective.
>>>
>>> Patch in NYC
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 9:37:19 AM UTC-4 Pierre wrote:
>>>
 Hi bunch - 

 Not super happy with the original Silver calipers raw stopping power 
 (admittedly quite spoiled by excellent hydro discs on other bikes).

 Looking for an upgrade but looks like long reach Paul racer are no 
 longer produced. What are my options lately? Anyone tried Rene Herse 
 center 
 pulls?

 (Even toying with idea of sending frame to Bilenky to add canti studs 
 so I can run mini-motos but maybe a bit extreme...).

 Thanks.

 Pierre

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 68cm Atlantis

[Brett Callahan]

What a great looking bike. The pink case on the Wahoo is a really nice 
touch. 

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:39:11 AM UTC-7 mark etze wrote:

> That's a great looking Atlantis. I am always sorta looking for 68cm Riv's 
> and when I saw your WTB I just figured there was no chance you would get 
> one because they are so rare. Congratulations on finding 2.
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:13:23 PM UTC-4 penne...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Following up here just to say that, against the odds, this worked 
>> amazingly well. Took 9 days from the WTB being posted for me to take 
>> delivery of a 68cm Atlantis frame, which I built up right away, fine tuned 
>> for a week or so, and is now up and running. The build was mainly dictated 
>> by parts availability in my garage (didn't buy anything), but I also took 
>> inspiration from the colour scheme of 1980s era Burger Kings after a photo 
>> of one preserved behind a wall at a mall in Delaware made its rounds on the 
>> internet a couple of weeks ago! I've attached a photo—hope I've done so 
>> properly. 
>>
>> This success, I presume, would be unlikely enough. But, my WTB also led 
>> straight to finding the other 68 I had been wanting, a Quickbeam, which 
>> arrived today! Seems miraculous. Thanks to the tall guys on here who helped 
>> me out! 
>>
>> Mack in Alberta (and in the middle of a pbh range) 
>>
>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 11:00:11 AM UTC-6 Mack Penner wrote:
>>
>>> In the last couple of years, at least, the bunch seems to have been 
>>> amazingly effective at moving some 68cm Atlantises (Atlantii?) around to 
>>> new owners. So, one more time? F/F/HS would be ideal, but if you only want 
>>> to sell complete my arm could be twisted, probably. 
>>>
>>> I've been a reader for a little while, but never a poster, so this post 
>>> might have an uphill battle ahead of it. Maybe a brief explanation will 
>>> help: I managed to buy a 67cm Homer this winter, and it went straight to 
>>> the top of my favourites list, ahead of a 62cm 2TT Appaloosa (thx Jim W!), 
>>> a 61cm Roadini that I'm always on the verge of selling, and just barely 
>>> ahead of a 60cm Platypus. Being totally hooked on the fit of the Homer, I 
>>> want another big one but with room for fatter tires.
>>>
>>> Could this work in time for my end of summer tour in the Rockies to be 
>>> an Atlantis tour? Here's hoping!
>>>
>>> Mack in Alberta 
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Discussion on Reddit

[Brett Callahan]

Nobody asked, but here's my somtwo cents: VO metal fenders are much easier 
to install **well** than the SKS plastic ones.  They're predrilled, so you 
only need basic tools like allen wrenches and a little bit of patience 
(maybe a drill if you're going to directly mount to a rando rack, too). 
Once they're installed, they stay in place much better than the SKS. The 
stays are thick enough that if they get whacked, they're unlikely to 
bend.   With many metal fenders, you can gently reradius them for a better 
fender line.  Installing metal fenders stays from VO and similar brands 
requires you to cut or dremel the fender stay, so four cuts. VO helpfully 
includes both a bracket and daruma for mounting to a variety of frames. 
Once they're on the bike, VO fenders tend to stay in place and seem to have 
a nice fender line.   

SKS fenders have fiddly stays, which I'm constantly finding get bent out of 
shape.  The fenders have an arc that can't be altered, so you'd better hope 
it fits the tire (or not be concerned with frivolity like fender line, but 
hey, I am).  The stays, if they require cutting, have more metal to cut and 
it's flimsy. Once cut, you've also got sharp ends facing your legs, which 
SKS helpfully provides little rubber thingees to cover. These are a total 
PITA to mount in my experience. Once on a bike, I find that they are easy 
to knock out of alignment. There are positives: SKS fenders are pretty 
minimal, so can be squeezed onto a bike well. They do have the nice QR 
feature when something gets jammed between fender and tire. However,  if 
you're worried about a QR system, Portland Design Works sells a quick 
release tab that I put on bikes with knobby tires and metal fenders for 
safety. 

The real challenge, IMHO, are the Sim Works and Honjo (maybe redundant, as 
Honjo makes the SW models?) versions that are completely  undrilled. You 
get infinite options for mounting and infinite chance to err. I call these 
six pack fenders, and they generally take a day to install. They generally 
look fantastic. 

Anyway, Rivendell and other manufacturers that include plenty of space and 
provisions for fender mounting are the best, and we should all buy their 
bikes!

Brett in pdx

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 5:53:18 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

>
>
>   SKS fenders may be easy-er than nothing to install for someone like a 
> bike shop looking for a path of least resistance, but sheesh  they look 
> awful. I have some Bluemel P50's on my Bombadil. Frankly, any fender can be 
> a challenge to install so I'd rather have some metal ones that look like 
> they belong on the bike if I'm going to have anything on there. 
>
>  As Patrick pointed out though, regular SKS fenders are much too short in 
> length, and they doesn't make longboard styles for the larger 700c fenders. 
> They do sell x-long flaps as add-ons, but it's an add-on that would be 
> better served as being included. SKS is wildly inconsistent in their fender 
> offerings. 
>
>   I ordered some 63mm VO fenders for more coverage and they look nice. 
> I'll likely have to move the front stay down because it looks like they 
> drill it for right where the toes would come closest to the fenders and the 
> bolts stick out. I like the way Berthoud does their stays though as they 
> are flattened at the bend. 
>
>   I read that the Portland Design Works safety tabs work for VO stays. 
> Again, it would be nice to have them as standard on the VO. I really 
> dislike buying new stuff and then needing to change something about it.
>
>   The funny thing is most of the times I've been caught in rainstorms have 
> been on my 1999 custom Franklin that has no fenders. I used to rain ride 
> for hours in Minnesota back in the day with no fenders , nor would they 
> have fit on a racing bike.
>
>   I was out riding today in cold and wind and felt like crap. Then I 
> thought of Mike the Mailman riding all those hard miles on his whatever 
> bike he had. So I let go all silly ideas of obligations and rode on, broke 
> out in songs of appreciation  and just enjoyed everything about it. 
>
>  The Secret to Life is that there is no Secret to Life. tee hee hee 
>  
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 5:39:35 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Just for the record, and not trying to change anyone's mind: I've used 
>> most major brands, extant and defunct, of plastic fenders, and many makes 
>> of metal fenders, aluminum and stainless steel. 
>>
>> Good plastic ones -- SKS, Planet Bike (not Avocet or Zefal!), perhaps 
>> Bumels, tho' it's been too long for those -- are sturdy, relatively easy to 
>> install, and -- *if long enough:* some PBs and SKS's are shamefully 
>> short in front -- work well, especially if you add mudflaps at the "spray" 
>> end, ie forward edge of rear, trailing edge of front.
>>
>> But metal ones are stiffer, quieter, lighter, generally have fuller 
>> coverage, can be adjusted more precisely, and look better. OTOH, 

[RBW] Re: FS: Original Suntour BAR-CON shifters

[Brett Callahan]

Hi Laing, PM sent, but I know sometimes they don't go through, so 
expressing my interest here as well. 
-Brett

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 5:42:14 AM UTC-8 lconley wrote:

> These are the original, pre-indexing Suntour BAR-CON bar end shifters, 
> includes pair of 29.5" SS spiral housing and downtube clamp. No inner 
> cables. very good condition, could probably stand to be dis-assembled, 
> cleaned and lubricated, shown some love - been sitting in a bag for many 
> years. $40 shipped CONUS.
>
> [image: BarCon.jpg]
>
> Laing
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[RBW] Re: Yet another round of name that sound

[Brett Callahan]

This is going to sound crazy, but is it the saddle, seatpost, or their 
interface? That's happened to me more than once, and I've chased sounds 
that I'm sure are bottom bracket, crank, or cassette related only to 
discover that in certain gears or at certain effort levels, my saddle is 
clicking. (In fact, this is happening with a Berthoud on my NFE at the 
moment. It only clicks when I shift my weight and ride upright at low 
cadence). 

Just a thought...
Brett in Portland

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 5:35:26 AM UTC-7 David Wadstrup wrote:

> We've played this game before, and I'm reluctant to begin another round. 
>  But after a fruitless deep dive into a general internet search trying to 
> identify the source of my sound, I thought bringing up my issue here might 
> be of help.  Here goes
>
> I am the proud owner of a beautiful, creamsicle colored Roadeo that I 
> purchased from a fellow list member here a couple of years ago.  I 
> purchased only the frameset, and built up it up myself.  A short while ago 
> I began to notice a creaking, clicking, cracking-type sound when climbing 
> steep-ish hills.  I loosened and re-tightened just about everything(except 
> the bottom bracket) in an attempt to fix whatever the source of the sound 
> might be.  No luck.  While out on a ride yesterday, I noticed that the 
> sound was apparently getting worse.  I started to fear that there was maybe 
> a crack somewhere in the frame, and made a plan to remove the crank and 
> re-install the BB to eliminate it as a possible source(which I ended up not 
> doing.)  But further into the ride, I happened to discover that the sound 
> only occurs when I am in one of the 3 largest cogs on the cassette.  I made 
> about 7 or 8 trips up and down one of the steeper hills on my route, and 
> was able to confirm that it did not happen in the 4th, or 5th, or any other 
> cog in back -- just the 3 largest.  
>
> For clarification, I am running a Shimano 11sp Ultegra group.  The sound 
> is NOT regular.  Meaning that it doesn't occur in the same place in either 
> my wheel's or crank's rotation. It happens both when seated and while I am 
> out of the saddle. It is more of a cracking, creaking, sound rather than a 
> clicking sound(although it does sound clicky,) if that makes any sense.  It 
> sounds like what I'd imagine a a cracked something-or-other to sound like.
>
> I suppose I'll remove and reinstall the cassette when I get a chance, but 
> figured I reach out to you all to see whether anyone has an inkling of what 
> the trouble might be.  Please let me know your thoughts!
>
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] Re: Faceplater failure--anyone else?

[Brett Callahan]

Thanks for the thoughts, folks. I'll use a torque wrench next time and look 
for a suitable replacement in the meantime. 

Brett

On Monday, July 19, 2021 at 10:09:25 AM UTC-7 velomann wrote:

> I've got the longest faceplate stem (135) holding Bosco bars on my Sam and 
> while I haven't experienced any slipping, it does creak. Had me perplexed 
> for awhile because it only creaks when I'm holding the grips (max torque on 
> the stem) I ride a lot on the center of the bar near the stem (wrapped) and 
> sometimes on the bends in front of the flat grip area. No creak. But out on 
> the grips it creaks. I eliminated headset, brake lever connection to bar, 
> everything else. I removed the faceplate, re-lubed the bolts, even lubed 
> the stem/bar interface. It still creaks.
>
>
>
> Mike "maybe it's a Portland thing?" M
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 9:35:22 PM UTC-7 brettjc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I recently bought a tosco to use with a faceplater stem because the losco 
>> I was trying out didn't agree with me.  I like the wider, more flared tosco 
>> a lot.  Anyway,  In a test ride of the new setup, the bar was slipping.  I 
>> torqued the bolts down, probably too much, because I noticed in doing so 
>> that the faceplate now seems to be bent.  In removing the faceplate, one of 
>> the bolts sheeted off and is stuck in the stem.  
>>
>> I can get the bolt out, but I'm not sure what to do with the bent 
>> faceplate.  Anyone else have this issue? Anyone know if Riv has 
>> replacements? 
>>
>> For what it's worth, I bought the 31.8 bar and stem because I was worried 
>> about slippage.  I'm a big guy and that's lots of leverage, but honestly I 
>> expected better from Nitto.
>>
>>   I replaced the faceplater  with a slightly shorter 2 bolt removable 
>> faceplate stem from Velo Orange, which has larger diameter bolts to attach 
>> the faceplate, and didn't experience any slipping. However, the VO stem us 
>> a little shorter than I'd like, and I really hate to think I'm just out a 
>> nice looking stem because of the bent faceplate.
>>
>>  Brett in PDX 
>>
>

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[RBW] Faceplater failure--anyone else?

[Brett Callahan]

I recently bought a tosco to use with a faceplater stem because the losco I 
was trying out didn't agree with me.  I like the wider, more flared tosco a 
lot.  Anyway,  In a test ride of the new setup, the bar was slipping.  I 
torqued the bolts down, probably too much, because I noticed in doing so 
that the faceplate now seems to be bent.  In removing the faceplate, one of 
the bolts sheeted off and is stuck in the stem.  

I can get the bolt out, but I'm not sure what to do with the bent 
faceplate.  Anyone else have this issue? Anyone know if Riv has 
replacements? 

For what it's worth, I bought the 31.8 bar and stem because I was worried 
about slippage.  I'm a big guy and that's lots of leverage, but honestly I 
expected better from Nitto.

  I replaced the faceplater  with a slightly shorter 2 bolt removable 
faceplate stem from Velo Orange, which has larger diameter bolts to attach 
the faceplate, and didn't experience any slipping. However, the VO stem us 
a little shorter than I'd like, and I really hate to think I'm just out a 
nice looking stem because of the bent faceplate.

 Brett in PDX 

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[RBW] Has anyone shellacked cushioned Newbaum's?

[Brett Callahan]

If so, would you share a picture and/or your impressions? I'm curious as to 
how A) it looks; and, B) how the cush underneath works with the hard tape 
on top. 

I've double wrapped with unpadded Newbaum's and shellacked on the top layer 
with good success. I'm wondering if this would work out similarly. 

Thanks!
Brett in PDX

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[RBW] Re: Something similar to Rustines Constructeur Grips?

[Brett Callahan]

I read earlier during the pandemic that Rustines has ramped up other 
aspects of their business. They make medical supplies and that has been a 
big driver of sales. The bike parts business, a tiny part of their overall 
sales, has been sidelined. This was in comments here, or another list serv. 
I can't vouch for the information, but it seems to make sense. It also 
seems possible that if VO can't reliably get the parts, they'd remove them 
from the website. 

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[RBW] Re: I decided to ditch LOSCO

[Brett Callahan]

James, your experience with the Losco was similar to my experience with the 
Billie bars. I found the Billie's and an 11CM stem on my Atlantis to be too 
flexy when carrying a load. I ended up going back to albatross bars on a 
slightly shorter stem. A little flex was fine, but it was just too much, 
especially on a heavy bike. I've been tempted to try out the Loscos or 
Toscos on a lighter bike where I don't carry a front load. 

Brett in PDX

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 5:37:43 AM UTC-8 James Valiensi wrote:

> I left him by the creek….
> Actually, I put LOSCO bars on my Riv custom road frame. I really liked the 
> upright position and the width of the bars. I also have a Joe A but it has 
> Albatross handle bars.
> I found the LOSCO bars to be too flexible. I was never sure if they were 
> flexing or slipping in the stem. It was a bit disconcerting. 
>
> I need to have my bars higher than I am used too. I ordered a new 60mm 
> Nitto FacePlater stem and a Rene Herse Maes parallel handle bar. The clamp 
> diameter is 31,8mm. The bigger diameter is a stiffer tube and the bars will 
> not flex as much as 25.4 or 26mm bars would. 
> I hope the bars will be an inch or two higher than the saddle. The reach 
> is slightly shorter than I used before, and that help keeps my upper body 
> straighter. 
>
> Traditional shaped bars have some advantages, like many hand positions and 
> if you have them high enough one can use the drops for the headwinds.
>
> I will post a photo when the parts get put on.
>
> The folks here sure have beautiful bikes. I ride in the north LA area and 
> there is no shortage of bike riders out here. But I can ride everyday for a 
> month and never see the kind of stuff posted here.
>
> I was fixing a friends Rivendell and as we were loading his bike on the 
> car rack a doordash guy came by and said “That’s a Rivendell!”. We spent 
> the next 20-min talking about it and Rivendell bikes. 
>
> Cheers!

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[RBW] Re: Experiences with Riv/Soma Clipper Crankset?

[Brett Callahan]

Michael, thanks for the links. That Stridsland chainring in particular is 
snazzy! I'd like to keep this bike as a triple, so as not to swap 
derailleurs and shifters or lose range, but I might pick one of those up 
for my quickbeam!

Joe, thanks. Good information. Another listmember reached out and offered a 
Sugino XD2 take-off to me, so I may go that route.  

I appreciate it, guys. 

Brett

On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 11:56:48 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> That's a rebranded Sugino XD2 which has pedal-powered many many Rivs. I 
> think you would be happy with it. 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 9:55:19 AM UTC-8 brettjc...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone used the clipper triple that Riv is now selling? I believe 
>> it's imported by Soma. This one: 
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/crank-akhdkgn2154sdg
>>
>> I have an older model Atlantis with a 94 bcd crankset that needs new 
>> rings and could use a new BB as well. Replacing the rings is trying my 
>> patience. I tracked down some Vuelta rings on ebay, which go for about $80. 
>> The nice looking TA ones are significantly more and the availability looks 
>> spotty. 
>>
>> The shiny triple isn't that much more, but I'm wondering if folks have 
>> used it and how experiences have been. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Brett in PDX
>>
>

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[RBW] Experiences with Riv/Soma Clipper Crankset?

[Brett Callahan]

Has anyone used the clipper triple that Riv is now selling? I believe it's 
imported by Soma. This one: 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/crank-akhdkgn2154sdg

I have an older model Atlantis with a 94 bcd crankset that needs new rings 
and could use a new BB as well. Replacing the rings is trying my patience. 
I tracked down some Vuelta rings on ebay, which go for about $80. The nice 
looking TA ones are significantly more and the availability looks spotty. 

The shiny triple isn't that much more, but I'm wondering if folks have used 
it and how experiences have been. 

Cheers,
Brett in PDX

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Re: [RBW] Re: Personal Experiences Request.

[Brett Callahan]

Hi David, I might be interested in those 700c voyagers you're hanging onto. 
I'll send a PM, too, but I know they don't always come through. If you're 
interested in selling and don't get a PM, feel free to email me: 
waterfowl04 (at) gmail (dot) com

On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 7:07:36 AM UTC-8 David Person wrote:

> Hugh, too bad (for me) that you need 650b Voyagers,  as I have a set of 
> 700c Voyager rims hanging up.  I built them up into wheels but decided to 
> go with Dyads.  Could have made you a good deal.  I do have a set of silver 
> VP Vice pedals in excellent condition, if you are in need of a pair.  I 
> gotta get around to listing some of items it's time to purge from the 
> collection.
>
> David
>
>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Quickbeam 58cm green

[Brett Callahan]

Great bike. I sent a PM, but I know sometimes those don't come through. I'm 
interested but think this might be a size small for me. Can you tell us 
what your PBH is, and the saddle height in your photos? 

Cheers,

Brett

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[RBW] Re: FS: King cages

[Brett Callahan]

I am confused, but intrigued, by this comment.  


   1. On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 5:51:50 PM UTC-8 Berkeleyan wrote:

Forgive me, I thought this was a thread about F*cking Cages and the dangers 
> of riding in mixed traffic.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Brett Callahan]

Thanks everyone, there are some great ideas in this thread. The Brooklyn 
bikes and Handsome cycles seem like a step up in quality (from afar, 
anyway) from my old Linus, but are really reasonable. The Pashley certainly 
seems, as noted, like the most Rivendell equivalent of the bunch, short of 
a clever adaptation of an existing Riv like Jason's Clem and John G's 
Quickbeam. Or I could take a machine gun to the budget and go full custom 
like Patrick. Or, or, I could look vintage, which has the advantage of 
really keeping me busy, and the disadvantage of older standards that I'm 
not as comfortable working on. So many decisions!

Shawn, if I show up to a three speed event on a five speed, am I instantly 
persona non grata? (I've been exploring the Sturmey catalogue). 

John G, could you say a bit more about the non rotation chain tugs? I think 
the only other 3 speeded quickbeam I've seen did not use those. Were they 
designed to prevent twisting of the hub inside the dropout? 

Again, thank you all!

Brett

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Re: [RBW] Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Brett Callahan]

Joe and Eric thanks for the good suggestions from totally opposite ends of
the spectrum!!

Patrick, you're right, that bike is simply stunning.  What a great bike and
I love the color you picked.  It's something else.

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[RBW] Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Brett Callahan]

A few years back I briefly had a three-speed Public done up in Rivendellian 
style, with a thumb shifter, albatross bars with shellacked tape, a nice 
silver porteur rack, etc. It was, as a bike shaped object, fine. It was not 
a Rivendell and I sold it a short time later to buy a Clem. 

I find myself missing having a three speed in the stable. I've long 
entertained thoughts of buying a Quickbeam, if one would ever come up for 
sale in my tall guy size, and adding a three speed hub. The same might be 
possible with the new Roaduno and I'll be keeping my eye on developments. 

I wonder, though, if there's a nice purpose built three speed out there I 
should be aware of but have missed. Any thoughts? 

If anyone here has put together a three speed Riv, I'd love to see photos 
or read insights? 

Brett in PDX. 

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[RBW] Re: Racks/fenders, an aesthetics question

[Brett Callahan]

Joe, I can certainly appreciate spending too much time worrying about 
aesthetics when you should be riding. Plus, this year in particular, I hope 
we all "need to get out more." I think you have a great looking bike that 
doesn't fall into a easily classified niche and the attendant (perceived) 
aesthetic roles that come with that kind of classification. It doesn't call 
out to me for fenders, and I don't think the rack is going to change that. 
Like Robert says, getting the rack level is far more important! 

IMHO, certain bikes DO need fenders (regardless of racks or other 
accessories.) For example, a 650b rando bike looks absolutely naked without 
metal fenders to my mind. Like...they should be tagged NSFW on Instagram. 
But I also need to get out more. 

Brett, in, in Portland. 



On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 10:05:22 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I need opinions on this matter because I've wrestled with it enough to 
> think I might be bonkers loony and need to get out more (probably and yes): 
>
> This is my Riv Custom (pictured below) and it's about to get a Nitto RBW51 
> rear rack to support a gray Medium Saddlesack. To go along with it I'm 
> thinking of adding fenders even though I don't particularly need them, and 
> find them to be a bit of a fussy headache. Here's my dilemma: I think racks 
> need fenders. Like it looks wrong if you just have a bag-support rack and a 
> bag over a bare tire. I know this is a thing with gravel/camping bikes now, 
> but my brain is stuck on the 'full touring bike' look of the olden days 
> which always had racks and fenders together. So whaddyathink? Do they need 
> to go together to look "right", or is my drop-toptube low-kicker Rivendell 
> already non-traditional enough that it doesn't freaking matter? 
>
> Joe "he needs to get out more" Bernard
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Swappable handlebar setup

[Brett Callahan]

Thanks! Stem length hasn't been an issue so far, with the pretty straight
bars.  Some with with backsweep like an albatross bar would likely require
a different stem.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 5:19 PM Robert Hakim 
wrote:

> Wonderful! A luxury not often seen with quill-stemmed bikes.
> Do you find yourself wishing for any extra stem length when riding with
> the flat bars?
>
> -Robert
>
> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 3:53:34 PM UTC-7 brettjc...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Link to album  since groups
>> won't let me post photos
>>
>>  I present my handlebar swappable Atlantis. I was inspired by the Alps in
>> the last BQ. I'm not a fan of downtube shifters, so I went with quill
>> mount, which allow the bar swap not to mess with shifting.  The Paul moon
>> units allow me to leave the straddle cable in place while swapping the
>> bars, and with a slotted Tektro hanger in front and a modified IRD hanger
>> in rear make it easy to simply slide the brake cables out.  Removable
>> faceplate will stem allows me to swap bars by removing only two bolts. Not
>> having to revamp a cable repeatedly should avoid concerns about them
>> wearing prematurely or weakening.
>>
>> Brett in PDX
>>
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[RBW] Swappable handlebar setup

[Brett Callahan]

Link to album  since groups 
won't let me post photos

 I present my handlebar swappable Atlantis. I was inspired by the Alps in 
the last BQ. I'm not a fan of downtube shifters, so I went with quill 
mount, which allow the bar swap not to mess with shifting.  The Paul moon 
units allow me to leave the straddle cable in place while swapping the 
bars, and with a slotted Tektro hanger in front and a modified IRD hanger 
in rear make it easy to simply slide the brake cables out.  Removable 
faceplate will stem allows me to swap bars by removing only two bolts. Not 
having to revamp a cable repeatedly should avoid concerns about them 
wearing prematurely or weakening.  

Brett in PDX

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[RBW] Re: Black hole of mixing Campagnolo and Shimano

[Brett Callahan]

Here's an old but helpful article on the subject.  I have not tried but 
have always been curious.  
https://www.cxmagazine.com/shimano-campagnolo-ergopower-compatibility
-Brett

On Friday, November 20, 2020 at 11:52:46 AM UTC-8 Damien wrote:

> Hey all, hoping to tap your collective knowledge on this topic. I have a 
> pretty standard Albatross-Riv-Shimano set up on my Sam (Deore RD, Tiagra 
> FD, 11-36 9 speed cassette with Sugino triple up front, Microshift 9 speed 
> bar end shifters) and am *exploring *the idea of converting to drop bars 
> and using 9 speed Campagnolo Centaur shifters (since I love the way these 
> look and feel), potentially using a JTek Shiftmate 3. 
>
> It sounds simple, but as with most things, I imagine it's not as simple as 
> it sounds. Before I start getting parts together for this mess, would love 
> to know if anyone feels strongly about this working well together, not 
> working well together, or if it's not worth the hassle and I just stick 
> with my Microshift bar ends on the drops. I figured that it would be nice 
> to keep the whole upright stem-handlebar-levers-shifters combo in tact if I 
> want to go back upright, and since I'm changing bar styles, why not 
> consider another option?
>
> Anyways, would love all of your thoughts on this, especially if you have 
> first-hand experience. Thank you all in advance!
>

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Re: [RBW] Attention Bleriot Owners!

[Brett Callahan]

Well that is utterly charming.  Thanks for posting a photo!

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[RBW] Re: Attention Bleriot Owners!

[Brett Callahan]

I would really like to see a photo, please! As I'm not a Bleriot owner 
(yet?) I won't buy it, but what a great gift idea!

Brett

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 11:25:39 AM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Got the bike? Get the plane!
>
> Offered for sale is this high quality due-cast model of Louis Blériot in 
> his eponymous monoplane, looking as though he’s flying over the English 
> Channel. 
>
> Perfect for the Bleriot owner who has everything (except a scale model of 
> the Bleriot plane).
>
>

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[RBW] Re: BRP

[Brett Callahan]

"Ladies Night" or a senior discount are both given based on an immutable 
characteristic, yet are common. As Bill notes "positive discrimination" 
such as race or sex based scholarships are allowable. I'm not convinced 
this illegal. 

Grant and Co are certainly intelligent enough to have considered this 
possibility and either determined it was allowable or decided the chances 
of a legal challenge were low enough not to worry about. They don't need 
all of us giving them pro bono legal advice! (Not that it isn't a fun thing 
to discuss). 

On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 11:35:31 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Doug pointed out discounts are common.  
>
> That's totally true, but I think the distinction Michael Gordon was making 
> is that none of your example discounts are granted based on race, ethnicity 
> or national origin.  
>
> The example I would give is this:  I'm Norwegian-American.  There is a 
> college scholarship for which I can apply that is earmarked for 
> Norwegian-American applicants.  I could hypothetically apply for that 
> scholarship.  If I get the scholarship, I could turn around and sue the 
> organization that gave it to me on the basis of the quote on the ACLU 
> website.  It's a benefit that is granted based on my ethnicity.  
>
> Similarly, the person who takes RBW to court would need to apply for the 
> BRP discount, get the discount, and then sue RBW for giving them a 
> discount.  It would be a strange motivation to sue Rivendell Bicycle Works, 
> but I think the strict interpretation of the law may mean there's an 
> argument to be had, and I think the outcome of that argument could be 
> really good.  
>
> I don't think there is a grounds upon which an aggrieved consumer could 
> sue Rivendell Bicycle Works because they had to pay normal price.  You'd 
> have to get the discount to have a case.  
>
> I don't think the spirit of the law prohibits a private business from 
> electing to pay reparations.  I'll talk it over with my JD friends.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 11:22:56 AM UTC-7 dougP wrote:
>
>> My understanding of BRP is that it is a *discount* off the list price.  
>> These are given routinely in retail.  When I got to the grocery store, I'm 
>> given a discount because we are members of their discount program.  Cutting 
>> coupons can also yield a discount off the list price.  My local bicycle 
>> club has a discount arrangement with some shops.  Adventure Cycling has a 
>> list price for maps and a discount for members. Gas stations have differing 
>> prices for cash & credit card. Qualifications for discounts seem to be 
>> determined by the vendor.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 10:33:10 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> Michael Gordon pointed out that BRP is illegal.  
>>>
>>> Excellent point, and welcome back!  I'm still glad they are doing it.  
>>> If somebody sues RBW and BRP is brought before a judge, I will be really 
>>> interested to hear both sides of the argument.  Better yet though, I hope 
>>> 85 people get a helpful discount on fun bikes.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 9:26:33 AM UTC-7 Michael G wrote:
>>>
 Regardless of good intentions and what you may think of BRP, price 
 discrimination on the basis of race is illegal under Federal law.


 https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/discrimination-on-the-basis-of-race-ethnicity-or-national-origin/

 "you cannot be charged a different price because of your race, 
 ethnicity, or national origin."

>>>

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[RBW] Re: BRP

[Brett Callahan]

Wholeheartedly agree, Bill.   I don't need a company to be in lockstep with 
me  politically to support it, but it's refreshing to feel really, really 
good about where I spend my discretionary dollars.  I love that Riv is 
doing this and hope other in the industry follow their lead.  

Cheers, Brett in PDX

On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 8:59:05 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Instagram, the Blahg, and maybe an email update have Rivendell Bicycle 
> Works putting their money where their mouths are.  Their announcement makes 
> me more likely to spend more of my money at Rivendell Bicycle Works.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Brett Callahan]

Thanks Patrick! Those tires are the Soma Shikoro in 700 x 48.  They're not 
Compass supple but seem like nice tires.  I don't have a lot of miles on them 
yet.  

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[RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

[Brett Callahan]

He must be, I read it on the internet!

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[RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

[Brett Callahan]

So, soon JFK Jr.  Will reveal that a) he alive, b) he is Grant, and c) he faked 
his own death to take down the carbon fiber conspiracy? Sign me up!  

Where we pedal one we pedal all, or something.  

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[RBW] Personal 'Grip of the Gods' variations

[Brett Callahan]

That looks amazing, and I bet it's as functional as it is good looking.  

How's the denim do when wet? Is it denim bar tape? 

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[RBW] Re: Path Less Pedaled will review a Riv!

[Brett Callahan]

I wish the albatross were a little wider.  The trick for me has been using a 
very long stem--far longer than what Russ has on his demo bike.  I also run 
them at saddle height, not high like many I've seen.  In that configuration I 
find them to be comfy and like the control. I just put a pair on my MIT 
Atlantis and am going to try a slightly longer than usual gravel ride in them 
this weekend. I usually commute about 9 miles one way in them.  Thinking 30ish 
miles of mixed terrain is a good test.  

The billies didn't work for me, but perhaps I gave up on them too quickly.  I 
tried them on a 12 cm stem with a moderate front load on an overnighter and 
found everything too flexy.  

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[RBW] Re: Path Less Pedaled will review a Riv!

[Brett Callahan]

I enjoyed the first ride video. Not surprised that Russ seems to be 
enjoying the bike, as so much of his aesthetic and riding style seems to be 
Grant inspired. I also got a kick out of the joking about disc brakes. 

Interesting that the bike came equipped with Ultradynamico tires. I for one 
really like the Rivendell/Crust/Poppi cross pollination that has been going 
on lately. 

Re: the comments in this thread about the perceived overuse of the term 
supple, it's never bothered me. It seems to me that Russ uses the term with 
tongue firmly in cheek, and I think it's a good way of describing the non 
race type of comfortable riding he enjoys, as is his other catch phrase: 
"party pace." It's as good a term as any, I think. He's also sort of 
branded the term, making "Supple" patches and other gear. Maybe it divides 
people into pro and con camps with no middle ground, like the Crust Bike 
marketing copy seems to. 

Anyway, good pub for Rivendell excites me. Hopefully this will generate 
more interest in Rivendell among an audience that isn't as familiar with 
the brand!

Brett in PDX. 

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 3:44:35 PM UTC-7, Jingy wrote:
>
> He just posted a 1st ride video
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRUo74yqz6w
>

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[RBW] Path Less Pedaled will review a Riv!

[Brett Callahan]

I don't know what the reader/viewer overlap between the Riv list and the Path 
Less Pedaled list is like, outside of Michael Mann and myself, but damn am I 
excited by this!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDccdhYHoFU/?igshid=phskilu88qw3
(Link is to their Instagram, I'm mobile right know so you may have to copy and 
paste, apologies) 

Anyone know what model this is? 

For those unfamiliar, Russ and his partner at Path Less Pedaled do a lot of 
great bike reviews, videos and interviews with Industry folk "on the supple 
side" of cycling, i.e.; they're into non race oriented stuff.  Worth your time, 
I think.  

Cheers, 

Brett in PDX

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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Brett Callahan]

That's a great looking build.  I recently helped a friend build up a purple 
poly, and it is an impressive bike.  Easy to build. I'd very much reccommend it 
to anyone who wants "Riv-adjacent" aesthetics with disc brakes.   

If Riv is going to push for more riders to ride V brakes with drops, dare I 
hope we'll see them make or partner with someone on a better drop bar V lever? 
The widely available Tektro, which I use, is unpleasant, ugly and cheap.  I'd 
love to see something like the TRP levers for Vs.  

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[RBW] FS: All City Space Horse Custom 55cm Golden Gate w/ dynamo and nitto bits

[Brett Callahan]

This is a great build.  My wife has (and very much enjoys) a Space Horse.  
Would reccommend.  I'm sorry you have to sell it. 

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[RBW] Brooks Brown v. Black

[Brett Callahan]

I almost always prefer brown, BUT, I like the look of the black on your bike. 
The big question to me is whether you'll ever add gumwall tires, in which case 
my vote goes back to brown.  

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[RBW] Gus is a sit-up guy and his neck flows like a swan now

[Brett Callahan]

My initial response to the Gus photos and info from Rivendell was a huge "meh", 
but seeing Patrick's and John's built up is really changing my mind.   

I still think I'd have a hard time buying this type of bike without discs (said 
as the proud owner of a Hillborne and Atlantis--I'm not anti rim brake) but 
these two builds look FUN! 

For a bike that seems similar in purpose and execution that does have discs, 
folks should check out Stooge Cycles.  Their buildouts also seem to scream 
"fun!" 

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[RBW] Social justice from a real working class perspective

[Brett Callahan]

Patrick, thanks for the link.  I read a couple of posts and found them I 
retesting and thought provoking.   

I was just exchanging emails with a group of friends today talking about our 
various "daily visits" as far as blogs, sites, etc It would be interesting 
to have a similar thread here and see what people are regularly browsing.  

Brett in PDX 

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[RBW] Lowrider racks on MIT Atlantis?

[Brett Callahan]

As always this forum is a wealth of information.  I looked locally for Tubus 
and failed to find it, then strongly considered the Blue Lug racks, u til I saw 
shipping costs, then found that Riv has the hub area rack in stock.  That's 
what I've ordered.  Appreciate everyone's help and input! 
Cheers, 
brett

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[RBW] Lowrider racks on MIT Atlantis?

[Brett Callahan]

Curious as to what lowriders people are using on Atlantii. Bonus points for 
pix.  

Brett in pdx

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[RBW] Favorite Rivendell model names?

[Brett Callahan]

For years I believed the Benedict Cumberbatch was a 26" riv offering.  Very 
disappointed to have learned that is in fact a person.   Would till make a good 
name for a bike. 

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[RBW] Gravel & Dirt: New blog about equipment

[Brett Callahan]

Good luck with the new blog.  Your review of the ultradynamicos seems similar 
to what I've seen elsewhere.  They look amazing and I find the copy 
entertaining, but the tires seem to get mixed reviews.   I'll stick with 
Compass for my $70 tire needs for now.  

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[RBW] Going from Sam (60cm to New Atlantis (59cm) - asking the unaskable: how will the New Atlantis feel?

[Brett Callahan]

JP, I have a Sam in 58 and the Atlantis in 59.  The Atlantis feels noticeably 
bigger in both good and bad ways.  It's less zippy, more stable. Tire choice is 
probably a factor here--700x 50 Cazaderos on the Atlantis and 700x38 Compass on 
the Sam. 

To me the Atlantis is more loaded touring, rough stuff focused.  It certainly 
handles a load well.  Neither bike is sprightly.  I've swapped a lot of parts 
between the two, but have arrived at using the Atlantis in a flat bar V brakes 
and knobbies setup that is fun to ride in all conditions but never fast.  The 
Sam is more road focused with drops.  

Enjoy your new ride! 
Brett in pdx 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Clem Smith Jr Disc 59

[Brett Callahan]

@William, Did you replace the jockey wheels on the Altus rear derailleur? 

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[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

[Brett Callahan]

Hi John,

I have a 59 MIT Atlantis set up with the Crust towel rack bars (in the 
smallest size, which are about 615 wide). 

I've used a short stem (Nitto Dirt Drop in 8CM) and a zero setback seatpost 
to minimize the length of the top tube and long effective reach of those 
bars. It's a comfy set up for me. I'd think that by playing with stem 
length, you should be able to run drops effectively. 

Best,
Brett in pdx 

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 4:00:13 AM UTC-8, John G. wrote:
>
> I have a bunch of parts in need of a 700c frame, so I’ve been pondering my 
> next build. I miss my old Atlantis, though I traded it for my Roadeo, which 
> I love. I’m thinking about getting a MIT Atlantis, but the reach on the MIT 
> model seems longer than the older iterations. Albatrosses aren’t for me—I 
> get wrist pain on longer rides. Has anyone set up their MIT Atlantis with 
> drops or Albastaches? Are they really more intended for bars like the 
> Albastache?

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[RBW] 58cm Boxdog Pelican for sale

[Brett Callahan]

650b or 700c? (Sorry, can't tell from the picture and believe some of the early 
models were 700c) 

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[RBW] Winter Cleaning Grab-Bag: Bike Stuff, Camera, Electronics, more!

[Brett Callahan]

Shawn, is the saddlebag support from YBS silver or black? 
Thanks, 
Brett  

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[RBW] Rivelo closing in January

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Very sad to see John and Darby closing up shop.   It's been such a welcoming 
atmosphere and great place to visit. 

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[RBW] Re: Blue Lug bars arrived today

[Brett Callahan]

Very interested to hear your thoughts on the mystery bar.  Looks to have 
slightly more backsweep, which is appealing to me.  I've thought about 
something similar for my Atlantis but have not pulled the trigger.  Please post 
a review! 
Brett in pdx

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Re: [RBW] fresh Riv content on the Radavist, plus TOP TUBE PANNIERS

[Brett Callahan]

They seem like the same great idea as is behind a feed bag or a fuel tank
style bikepacking bag--essentials in easy reach.  Sounds like knee whacking
isn't a concern.   Cool!

On Sat, Aug 10, 2019, 7:07 AM Eamon Nordquist 
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> I love the top tube panniers, and I think my top tube is long enough to
> keep my knees away from them, but I wonder how much they would mess with my
> downtube shifters. Downtube shifters were the norm for derailleur equipped
> bikes when those were designed, so maybe I should just get out a tape
> measure and see. The Rough Stuff folks seemed to like them. They look like
> they would be good for snacks, small camera, etc.
>
> Eamon
> Seattle
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[RBW] fresh Riv content on the Radavist, plus TOP TUBE PANNIERS

[Brett Callahan]

The top tube panniers look cool, but I'd hit my knees on them in stand up 
pedaling, I think. 

What I want to know is how he got those levers to work with v brakes and no 
travel agent.   

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Stems, Shimano & Tektro Levers, Sackville & North St. Bags and more

[Brett Callahan]

One more bump. $140 for the Sackville and $50 for the saddle? 
Brett   

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Stems, Shimano & Tektro Levers, Sackville & North St. Bags and more

[Brett Callahan]

Hey Adam, it is! Shoot me a private message or send me a text at five-oh-3 
seven 4 0 981three and I can send you a few photos.  I'm on mobile right now 
and can't send you a private message. 
Brett

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Stems, Shimano & Tektro Levers, Sackville & North St. Bags and more

[Brett Callahan]

Update on what's available, bump, and price drops.

Bump, updates, price drops: 

Cross post on IBOB and RBW lists. All items used and in good condition 
unless otherwise noted. Feel free to let me know if you think pricing is 
off anywhere or want to make an offer. Prices do not include shipping. I'll 
ship anything I can in $7.55 flat rate USPS envelopes or $12.80 medium 
boxes. PayPal F unless you want to propose something else. 

Link to photos here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/HnZkKqmZWb3qikAJ6

*Stems: *

Nitto Stem 26.0 x 90  (220 tall) (not technomic--I think Pearl--nicer, more 
satin finish) $25 Very nice shape. Essentially new. 

*Grips: *
Oury Lock-on flat bar grips. $15. Good/newish shape. Scratch on one. See 
photo. 

Plastic Retro Grips $8. As used by Riv on the early Clem Smiths. 

*Bags: *
Sackville Medium Blue Saddle Sack. $160. Good condition. Used for a few 
months of commutes and a couple overnights.  Top notch quality, but I've 
discovered I prefer to use a traditionally shaped saddlebag.  Mild rub 
marks on the underside of bag from where a tire bumped it.   Includes post 
strap (not pictured).  Does not include the tool bag Riv used to sell these 
with.  Several small pinholes where I had buttons on the right side of the 
flap--see photos.   

*Brake Levers: *
Tektro "City" Canti Brake Levers. $15. Used but very serviceable. 

Tektro V Brake Levers. $15. Very good shape. 

Shimano BL-R780 Deore V Brake Levers. $18 Very good shape. 

Shimano Super SLR Drop Bar Levers. 2 available. Both in fair-good shape. 
$15/set

*Shifting: *
Shimano Altus 8 Speed read derailleur $15. Grant Peterson approved with 
bigger pulleys. 


*Saddles:*
Brooks Professional. $60. I cannot break this thing in and switched to a 
B17. Some signs of use, but in very good shape. 

VO Woman's Sprung Saddle. $35. Lots of use. It looks kinda neat but not as 
nice as a Brooks. It squeaks, but not as much as my sprung Brooks. 

*Misc: *
FSA Metropolis single ring crankset. $40. 175mm arms, 45 tooth. Black 
bashguard on siver. Used and shows it, but in decent shape. 

Panaracer Pari Moto 650b x 38 mm. $40 for pair. Good shape. Sidewalls are a 
little dirty from a Portland winter, but many, many miles left.  (no photos 
yet) 
 
Thanks for looking!

Brett in pdx

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Mini-Front 32, or Mark's, or similar.

[Brett Callahan]

I found what I needed! Thank you. 

Brett

On Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 7:57:27 AM UTC-7, Brett Callahan wrote:
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> Hi folks, title says it all. I'm looking for a used but in good shape 
> small front rack. 
>
> If you've got something similar to a Mark's or a 32, such as one of the 
> Rawland Racks, I might be interested.
>
> In keeping with the recent posts suggesting that "Want to Buy" posts 
> include a price, I've got a budget of $100 including shipping for a Mark's 
> or 32. The Rawlands retail for $70 ish new. I'd pay $55 shipped. I'm open 
> to suggestions if you have a similar rack but think those offers are off. 
>
> If you're in the Portland area, I have a Velo Orange Porteur rack with 
> rails that I'd trade straight across. It's a bit big to ship. 
>
> Thanks!
>
> Brett in PDX
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Pedal click driving me batty

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>
> Seconding what Steve said. If there's no click when you're out of the 
> saddle, check the saddle itself and connections. I was 100 % sure at one 
> point that my pedal was clicking. After trying everything I could think of 
> to do with the pedals, cranks, bottom bracket, etc, I removed and 
> reinstalled the saddle snugly. Problem solved. 
>

Good luck,
Brett 

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Mini-Front 32, or Mark's, or similar.

[Brett Callahan]

Hi folks, title says it all. I'm looking for a used but in good shape small 
front rack. 

If you've got something similar to a Mark's or a 32, such as one of the Rawland 
Racks, I might be interested.

In keeping with the recent posts suggesting that "Want to Buy" posts include a 
price, I've got a budget of $100 including shipping for a Mark's or 32. The 
Rawlands retail for $70 ish new. I'd pay $55 shipped. I'm open to suggestions 
if you have a similar rack but think those offers are off. 

If you're in the Portland area, I have a Velo Orange Porteur rack with rails 
that I'd trade straight across. It's a bit big to ship. 

Thanks!

Brett in PDX

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Stems, Shimano & Tektro Levers, Sackville & North St. Bags and more

[Brett Callahan]

Dirt drop, pads, 90mm technomic, 60 mm technomic, friction shifters, and 
North St. Bag are now sold. Updated list: 

*Stems: *

Nitto Technomic 25.4 x 110mm (220 tall) $25 Decent shape. Insertion marks 
and scratches. 


Nitto Stem (not technomic--I think Pear--nicer, more satin finish) $35 Very 
nice shape. Essentially new. 



*Grips: *

Oury Lock-on flat bar grips. $18. Good/newish shape. Scratch on one. See 
photo. 

Plastic Retro Grips $10. As used by Riv on the early Clem Smiths. 

*Bags: *

Sackville Medium Blue Saddle Sack. $175. Good condition. Used for a few 
months of commutes and a couple overnights.  Top notch quality, but I've 
discovered I prefer to use a traditionally shaped saddlebag.  Mild rub 
marks on the underside of bag from where a tire bumped it.   Includes post 
strap (not pictured).  Does not include the tool bag Riv used to sell these 
with.  Several small pinholes where I had buttons on the right side of the 
flap--see photos.   



*Brake Levers: *

Tektro "City" Canti Brake Levers. $18. Used but very serviceable. 

Tektro V Brake Levers. $18. Very good shape. 

Shimano BL-R780 Deore V Brake Levers. $20 Very good shape. 

Shimano Super SLR Drop Bar Levers. 2 available. Both in fair-good shape. 
$20/set

*Shifting: *

Shimano Altus 8 Speed read derailleur $15. Grant Peterson approved with 
bigger pulleys. 


*Saddles:*

Brooks Professional. $65. I cannot break this thing in and switched to a 
B17. Some signs of use, but in very good shape. 

VO Woman's Sprung Saddle. $40. Lots of use. It looks kinda neat but not as 
nice as a Brooks. It squeaks, but not as much as my sprung Brooks. 

*Misc: *


FSA Metropolis single ring crankset. $40. 175mm arms, 45 tooth. Black 
bashguard on siver. Used and shows it, but in decent shape. 

Soma 27.2 Silver Layback Seatpost. $15. New. May have been inserted but not 
ridden.

Panaracer Pari Moto 650b x 38 mm. $40 for pair. Good shape. Sidewalls are a 
little dirty from a Portland winter, but many, many miles left.  (no photos 
yet) 

On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 9:55:27 PM UTC-7, Brett Callahan wrote:
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> Dirt drop, pads, and 90mm technomic are spoken for.  

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[RBW] FS: Nitto Stems, Shimano & Tektro Levers, Sackville & North St. Bags and more

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Dirt drop, pads, and 90mm technomic are spoken for.  

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[RBW] FS: Nitto Stems, Shimano & Tektro Levers, Sackville & North St. Bags and more

[Brett Callahan]

Cross post on IBOB and RBW lists. All items used and in good condition 
unless otherwise noted. Feel free to let me know if you think pricing is 
off anywhere or want to make an offer. Prices do not include shipping. I'll 
ship anything I can in $7.50 flat rate USPS boxes. If it won't fit, call it 
$15 for shipping and I'll figure it out. PayPal F unless you want to 
propose something else. 

Link to photos here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/HnZkKqmZWb3qikAJ6

*Stems: *

Nitto Technomic 25.4 x 110mm (220 tall) $25 Decent shape. Insertion marks 
and scratches. 

Nitto Technomic 25.4 x 90 mm (220 tall) $25 Decent shape. Insertion marks 
and scratches. 

Nitto Technomic 25.4 x 26.0 x x 60 mm (220 tall) $25 Good shape, insertion 
marks and light scratching. 

Nitto Stem (not technomic--I think Pear--nicer, more satin finish) $35 Very 
nice shape. Essentially new. 

Nitto Dirt Drop Stem MT 10. 25.4 x 80 mm (220 tall plus rise) $40. Very 
good shape. Very little use. 

*Grips: *

Oury Lock-on flat bar grips. $18. Good/newish shape. Scratch on one. See 
photo. 

Plastic Retro Grips $10. As used by Riv on the early Clem Smiths. 

*Bags: *

Sackville Medium Blue Saddle Sack. $175. Good condition. Used for a few 
months of commutes and a couple overnights.  Top notch quality, but I've 
discovered I prefer to use a traditionally shaped saddlebag.  Mild rub 
marks on the underside of bag from where a tire bumped it.   Includes post 
strap (not pictured).  Does not include the tool bag Riv used to sell these 
with.  Several small pinholes where I had buttons on the right side of the 
flap--see photos.   

North St. Bags Scout Duffle for Wald Medium Basket. $50. Cordura outer but 
not fully waterproof because of zipper. Nice little bag for a basket bike. 
No strap. 

*Brake Levers: *

Tektro "City" Canti Brake Levers. $18. Used but very serviceable. 

Tektro V Brake Levers. $18. Very good shape. 

Shimano BL-R780 Deore V Brake Levers. $20 Very good shape. 

Shimano Super SLR Drop Bar Levers. 2 available. Both in fair-good shape. 
$20/set

*Shifting: *

Shimano Altus 8 Speed read derailleur $15. Grant Peterson approved with 
bigger pulleys. 

Sunrace M90 friction shifter set. $25. As specced by Rivendell on early 
Clems. 

*Saddles:*

Brooks Professional. $65. I cannot break this thing in and switched to a 
B17. Some signs of use, but in very good shape. 

VO Woman's Sprung Saddle. $40. Lots of use. It looks kinda neat but not as 
nice as a Brooks. It squeaks, but not as much as my sprung Brooks. 

*Misc: *

4 New Koolstop thinline pads for smooth post brakes. $10 See photos. I 
mistakenly bought these. 1 bag open. All news. 

FSA Metropolis single ring crankset. $40. 175mm arms, 45 tooth. Black 
bashguard on siver. Used and shows it, but in decent shape. 

Soma 27.2 Silver Layback Seatpost. $15. New. May have been inserted but not 
ridden.

Panaracer Pari Moto 650b x 38 mm. $40 for pair. Good shape. Sidewalls are a 
little dirty from a Portland winter, but many, many miles left.  (no photos 
yet) 

Thanks for looking!

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[RBW] Does anyone have any knobby tire suggestions for a 52 Clem H?

[Brett Callahan]

I absolutely love Schwalbe Thunderburts if your bike will fit them.   Soma's 
cazaderos also give nice traction with minimal drag.  I leave the caz on my 
Atlantis year round.  

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[RBW] Best GPS for Android?

[Brett Callahan]

I've been happy with Ride w/ GPS.  Does the tracking you desire for a few bucks 
a month and you can search for rides in your area that others have created ( or 
create your own) with turn by turn queues. 

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[RBW] FS: Saddlesacks, Stems, Compass Tires, MKS Sneaker Pedals, mudflaps

[Brett Callahan]

Hi all, 

Tires, sneaker pedals and small tan saddlesack have sold. All else still 
available. 

Brett in PDX

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[RBW] Re: FS: Saddlesacks, Stems, Compass Tires, MKS Sneaker Pedals, mudflaps

[Brett Callahan]

It has been observed that I'm asking for $30 for the sneaker pedals and Riv 
sells them for that. Let's say $20 shipped? 

On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 10:13:18 AM UTC-7, Brett Callahan wrote:
>
> Cross posted to iBOB Group. 
>
>
> Hi all, looking to clean out some seldom used stuff. All prices include 
> shipping.  I'll be able to send out Monday-Weds of next week.  PayPal F+F 
> or cash app, please. If you're local to Portland and want to pickup I'll 
> knock a few bucks off. 
>
>
> If you're interested but think my pricing is off, let me know. I've tried 
> to price fairly but I'm certainly open to offers. 
>
>
> Photos here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/9NAZDfRjRNMSzeUH6
>
>
> 1)  Sackville Medium Blue Saddle Sack--$200
> Good condition. Used for a few months of commutes and a couple 
> overnights.  Top notch quality, but I've discovered I prefer to use a 
> traditionally shaped saddlebag.  Mild rub marks on the underside of bag 
> from where a tire bumped it.   Includes post strap (not pictured).  Does 
> not include the tool bag Riv used to sell these with.  Several small 
> pinholes where I had buttons on the right side of the flap--see photos. 
>
>
> 2)  Sackville small tan saddleback --$135
> Excellent condition.  Few smudges where it rested against seat post but 
> otherwise like new. The Rivelo patch is sewed on with fine thread and could 
> be removed.  
>
>
> 3)  Stems: ITM millennium stems--$25 each. 
>
> Nice lightweight threadless stems for roadish builds.  Lengths 
> 130/120/110.  All 80 degree.  All in great shape.  Two longer stems include 
> original boxes.  (See photos) $25 each. 
>
>
> 4)  MKS Sneaker Pedals --$30 
> Great shape.  About 5 years old but came in a lightly used Riv demo model. 
> I replaced with grip kings, but I know a lot of folks love these. 
>
>
> 5)  Portland Design Works fender flaps--$20. 
>
> New in package. "Road" version.  I was going to put these on a bike with 
> 50mm fenders and 38 mm tires but they look a little narros. Would look 
> great on a bike with narrowish (sub 35 mm) tires. 
>
>
> 6)  Compass Snoqualmie Pass--$75 for the pair.  
>
> I do not have photos of these yet but can take some on request. These were 
> purchased in 2017 but used for only about 4 months before I replaced them, 
> so tons of life left.  Gumwalls are a little dirty from Portland roads.  
> Worth noting that these looked a little thinner than labeled (700 x 44) on 
> my Velocity Dyad rims. I did not measure with calipers and they are no 
> longer mounted.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Brett in PDX
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[RBW] FS: Saddlesacks, Stems, Compass Tires, MKS Sneaker Pedals, mudflaps

[Brett Callahan]

Cross posted to iBOB Group. 


Hi all, looking to clean out some seldom used stuff. All prices include 
shipping.  I'll be able to send out Monday-Weds of next week.  PayPal F+F 
or cash app, please. If you're local to Portland and want to pickup I'll 
knock a few bucks off. 


If you're interested but think my pricing is off, let me know. I've tried 
to price fairly but I'm certainly open to offers. 


Photos here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/9NAZDfRjRNMSzeUH6


1)  Sackville Medium Blue Saddle Sack--$200
Good condition. Used for a few months of commutes and a couple overnights.  
Top notch quality, but I've discovered I prefer to use a traditionally 
shaped saddlebag.  Mild rub marks on the underside of bag from where a tire 
bumped it.   Includes post strap (not pictured).  Does not include the tool 
bag Riv used to sell these with.  Several small pinholes where I had 
buttons on the right side of the flap--see photos. 


2)  Sackville small tan saddleback --$135
Excellent condition.  Few smudges where it rested against seat post but 
otherwise like new. The Rivelo patch is sewed on with fine thread and could 
be removed.  


3)  Stems: ITM millennium stems--$25 each. 

Nice lightweight threadless stems for roadish builds.  Lengths 
130/120/110.  All 80 degree.  All in great shape.  Two longer stems include 
original boxes.  (See photos) $25 each. 


4)  MKS Sneaker Pedals --$30 
Great shape.  About 5 years old but came in a lightly used Riv demo model. 
I replaced with grip kings, but I know a lot of folks love these. 


5)  Portland Design Works fender flaps--$20. 

New in package. "Road" version.  I was going to put these on a bike with 
50mm fenders and 38 mm tires but they look a little narros. Would look 
great on a bike with narrowish (sub 35 mm) tires. 


6)  Compass Snoqualmie Pass--$75 for the pair.  

I do not have photos of these yet but can take some on request. These were 
purchased in 2017 but used for only about 4 months before I replaced them, 
so tons of life left.  Gumwalls are a little dirty from Portland roads.  
Worth noting that these looked a little thinner than labeled (700 x 44) on 
my Velocity Dyad rims. I did not measure with calipers and they are no 
longer mounted.


Thanks,


Brett in PDX

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[RBW] Re: FS: tumbleweed mini pannier rack

[Brett Callahan]

That was an attempt at a pm.   I'll try again. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: tumbleweed mini pannier rack

[Brett Callahan]

Hi, If it's still available, I'll take it at that price.   Looks like a fun 
experiment.   Let me know your preferred payment method. Thanks! 
-Brett

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[RBW] Re: FS: Acorn, Carradice, and Nitto

[Brett Callahan]

PM sent.  Trying to send through mobile, so please let me know if you don't get 
it! 
-Brett


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[RBW] Re: Spring Cleaning

[Brett Callahan]

Beautiful bikes. I usually drool over Hunqas, but your Sam's colors are so 
nice. 

On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 9:15:24 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:
>
> Here's a few pics of some shiny Rivs.  Haven't posted here in a while.  
> Hope everyone is still riding the heck out of their bikes!
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskQ9pDoF
>
> Brian Hanson
> Seattle, WA
> Bike Blog 
> @stonehog
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[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

[Brett Callahan]

Joe, it's a beauty. I dig the mix of black and silver used in the build. I 
have the same fenders in silver on another bike and like them a lot. They 
look terrific with those tires and wheels. Let us know how you like that 
stem after you've put a few miles on it, please. Enjoy it!

Brett, pdx

>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil Info

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What a wonderful bike.  Beautiful! 

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[RBW] Re: MIT Atlantis with drops?

[Brett Callahan]

I'm running my 59 with a Nitto / Fairweather bar that is effectively a 46 
cm noodle with less drop.  I love the bike but I've had a hard time dialing 
in bars. This seems to be a keeper. I previously tried flat bars which 
didn't agree with my wrists, the billie bar, which just had too 
muuuch flex,  and noodles and v-brake levers from Tektro that gave me 
too much reach even with a short stem.  Since making the change to cantis 
and a more compact drop, I'm pretty happy with my setup.  The bike felt 
great with flats on dirt, and it feels great with drops on pavement. I'm 
hoping to get it out on some dirt as currently built this weekend. 

Bottom line, if you like the bike and you want to run drops, I vote go for 
it. I think you'll find that the aesthetic funk will fade quickly!

-Brett

On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 7:49:27 AM UTC-7, Leaf Slayer wrote:
>
> Ok, so I'm giving some serious thought to going back down the RBW rabbit 
> hole again (previously had a AHH, Rambouillet and QB). I really like the 
> MIT Atlantis. Last year I sold my CC and LHT and have put together a Crust 
> Evasion which is an absolutely awesome bike. I'll be selling off my Ogre 
> soon and, most likely my Big Dummy. I want to get down to 2 nice and 
> distinct bikes. I got a silver Crust Towel rack on order and will likely 
> build a bike around them. That's a good way to do it, right? I also have a 
> Fab's Chest coming. 
>
> Anyway, I'm curious about the MIT Atlantis with drops and how it rides on 
> dirt roads. I imagine it's great. There's some aesthetically incongruent 
> about drops on a bike with such a long wheel base, but how does it actually 
> feel? Any down sides? The thing I like about the Atlantis is that it's 
> easily rackable and fenderable. It would likely go into service as my daily 
> driver. 
>
> I'm also giving some serious thought to a Romanceur. I know, it sounds 
> like I'm going full Benedict, but believe me, I started down this road 
> years ago and we're just crossing paths at this moment.
>
> I have a collection of parts laying around that would be perfect for 
> either bike.
>
> Thanks,
> mike
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[RBW] Re: railbiking video

[Brett Callahan]

What a great find. Part II was also incredible. The shots of them riding 
above a dam on an abandoned trackWow. 

On Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 10:59:39 AM UTC-8, Mike Packard wrote:
>
> Perhaps not exactly, precisely on topic, but it seems like something folks 
> here would enjoy. The nature, music, and glimpse of a clicky friction 
> shifter put it over the top for me. Maybe a max-fat GBW could ride on the 
> ties between the rails.
>
> "Extreme Railbiking"
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viSJsOUCGu4
>
> Mike in Austin
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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Brett Callahan]

I love seeing how everyone has their Rivs set up. Lots of inspiration in 
this thread. In the interest of keeping it going, here's a picture of my 
Sam parked outside Boxer Ramen in PDX last night.


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[RBW] Re: The gratifying value of a good tailor and cycling clothing

[Brett Callahan]

Patrick, great anecdote and wonderful that you're supporting a local 
business with such a wonderful story. 

Assuming you have a Gmail account, why not write a quick Google review for 
him? If people Google the business to get address or hours, your review and 
a star rating will show up, which is great marketing. Businesses with only 
one or two reviews can really benefit from a five star review, and Google 
is more visible than things like Yelp. 

As to the thumbs up, he may have been asking for a "like" on Facebook, but 
I'm just guessing there. 

Regards,
Brett

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>
> Aside: How does one add an online "thumbs up" comment for AAA (it's AAA) 
> and 4 Seasons? I promised Reza I would do so, but have no clue where to go. 
> Also, Hale carpentry who made my home desk/wall shelf/cabinet -- true 
> professionals all. Sorry, clueless, Googled, no luck.
>
> Tx.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Wavie Bar Photos

[Brett Callahan]

And Grant was into disc brakes before they were cool. Just with, y'know, 
bigger discs :)


On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 at 9:17:41 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> LOL! I say the following in response to those who express this sentiment, 
> not to Brett: NO SHIT!
>
> Grant has built an entire business empire on purposely and very 
> deliberately violating and defying trends!
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 7:56 AM Brett Callahan  > wrote:
>
>> One of the criticisms of Rivendell/Grant that I see frequently is that 
>> they're slow to respond to trends.  
>
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[RBW] Re: New Wavie Bar Photos

[Brett Callahan]

One of the criticisms of Rivendell/Grant that I see frequently is that they're 
slow to respond to trends.  Here, they've brought out a bar similar to a whole 
host of others in a nice finish made by a great manufacturer and they get 
criticized for that, too.  Go figure.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

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Thanks, everyone, for your input. I put sealant in my tubes last night
using a chain tool to remove the cores. It was an easy process.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 7:30 PM Ron Mc  wrote:

> Coming in late, in Barlow and Stampede Pass ELs, I use Challenge latex
> cross tubes.  Up front, living with latex tubes requires pumping every day
> when you ride, and once/wk when you don't.
> Or if you store the bike, store it on a stand that keeps the wheels off
> the ground.
>
> I don't add sealant until I get that first leak, but carry a 2 oz bottle
> of Stan's, valve core tool and spare valve core.
> First thing to check on a slow leak, btw, is whether your valve core is
> tight or not.  .
> First flat, I'll add one oz of the Stans, save the second ounce, and use
> it later as needed.
> That usually takes care of me, but have gone through the exercise of a
> second 2 oz bottle later, though I normally don't get a lot of flats.
> I definitely get fewer flats than my friend who rides city tires - I think
> thinner, softer tires will throw away a lot of sharp stuff that will plant
> in harder, thicker tires.
> I've also been getting a lot of miles out of my tires.  The last one I
> replaced, a 27mm Vittoria, was flopping casing fibers when I replaced it.
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[RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

[Brett Callahan]

Thanks for the notes, very helpful. Did you remove the valve cores from 
another set of tubes, or are they available as a part on their own? 

On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 9:22:33 AM UTC-8, DarinM wrote:
>
> I have used sealant in tubes for 6-8 months. I use standard Stan's sealant 
> in Schwalbe tubes for 26x54 and 650bx42 tires and have not had a flat I had 
> to stop and deal with since starting. The tubes have removable cores, which 
> I remove and then use the Stan's injector to add 2-3oz. I think I topped 
> them off once before a tour as a precaution. 
>
> I've been using sealant with Compass standard and various Schwalbe, 
> including the Liteskin casing which is very thin. I think it's been pretty 
> effective.
>
> I've noticed that the sealant is still very much liquid when handling the 
> tube while changing tires, so longevity hasn't been an issue for me. I have 
> had to swap valve cores on one set of tubes when pumping started taking a 
> little too much effort.
>
> Darin
>
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 7:53:44 AM UTC-8, Brett Callahan wrote:
>>
>> Friends, I know it has been discussed here before, but I'm awful with the 
>> Google Groups search function. Would anyone be willing to share about their 
>> experience using Stan's or Orange Seal in tubes? 
>>
>> I've got a set of Compass tires that I'd like to ride, but it seems they 
>> always have a slow leak from a small puncture. From what I gather, sealant 
>> in the tubes may help combat that. 
>>
>> Specific questions are: which sealant do you use? Which tubes do you pair 
>> it with? With a tube with a removable valve core, do I need to do anything 
>> specific to get it in, or just up end the bottle? How much do you put in in 
>> a go? 
>>
>> Thanks for any willing to share their knowledge. I appreciate the brain 
>> trust that is this group. 
>>
>> Brett, PDX
>>
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[RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

[Brett Callahan]

Thanks, I'll avoid the extralight tubes and go with something heartier. I 
just verified that the stack of Specialized tubes I have at home do have 
removable cores, so I'll start there. 

On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 9:23:00 AM UTC-8, Drw wrote:
>
> I actually just did this last night for the first time and basically did 
> it just as Shoji describes, though I used about 2-3oz of orange seal. It's 
> pretty easy, and i cant see a reason to not do it, especially if you have 
> removable core tubes. Someone mentioned that the installer tube for orange 
> seal is too big for the valve opening, but the basic lid on the 4 or 8oz 
> bottle actually fits in the hole just right. if you bought a bigger bottle, 
> it might make things harder. 
>
> my only note is that i bought schwalbe extra light tubes and either they 
> are not great, or my tire installation skills are not as good as i though 
> they were. 2 out of 4 leaked upon initial pump up when on the wheel. Not 
> sure if they are faulty or if i did something wrong, but I've swapped 
> normal tubes probably a hundred times and never had that happen. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

[Brett Callahan]

Thanks, this is just what I was looking for. The tip about the chain tool 
is great. I was planning on attempting it with needle nose pliers or 
tweezers. Chain tool seems easier!

On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 8:21:01 AM UTC-8, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
> Hi Brett,
> I use Orange Seal in tubes (butyl and latex) with Compass 584x38 and 
> 584x42 (regular, not EL casing).
>
> I think it helps, but my frequency of flats was low before sealant. My 
> rides are generally commutes, and getting a flat can be an expensive 
> nuisance if I'm late for child pickup. 
>
> For set up, I install tube+tire and air it up (without sealant). If it 
> looks good, then I deflate the tube and remove the valve core. (BTW: Park 
> chain tool, probably others, can be used to remove the valve core; the 
> "arms" are the right distance to engage the flats of the core.) 
>
> With valve ~4 o'clock position (and tire off the ground), I inject ~4 oz 
> of Orange Seal. I could probably get away with less sealant, but... half of 
> 8 is 4 and I figured that if I stored the bottle, the remaining sealant 
> would probably dry out. (My LBS didn't have the 4oz size.)
>
> Next, reinstall the core and air it up. I recently read someone advising 
> adding Boeshield or similar to the core before installation (to prevent 
> clogging). Maybe I'll try that next time. I can't say that it's been much 
> of a problem for me, though.
>
> Good luck!
> shoji
> Arlington MA
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 10:53:44 AM UTC-5, Brett Callahan wrote:
>>
>> Friends, I know it has been discussed here before, but I'm awful with the 
>> Google Groups search function. Would anyone be willing to share about their 
>> experience using Stan's or Orange Seal in tubes? 
>>
>> I've got a set of Compass tires that I'd like to ride, but it seems they 
>> always have a slow leak from a small puncture. From what I gather, sealant 
>> in the tubes may help combat that. 
>>
>> Specific questions are: which sealant do you use? Which tubes do you pair 
>> it with? With a tube with a removable valve core, do I need to do anything 
>> specific to get it in, or just up end the bottle? How much do you put in in 
>> a go? 
>>
>> Thanks for any willing to share their knowledge. I appreciate the brain 
>> trust that is this group. 
>>
>> Brett, PDX
>>
>

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[RBW] Teach me about sealant in tubes?

[Brett Callahan]

Friends, I know it has been discussed here before, but I'm awful with the 
Google Groups search function. Would anyone be willing to share about their 
experience using Stan's or Orange Seal in tubes? 

I've got a set of Compass tires that I'd like to ride, but it seems they 
always have a slow leak from a small puncture. From what I gather, sealant 
in the tubes may help combat that. 

Specific questions are: which sealant do you use? Which tubes do you pair 
it with? With a tube with a removable valve core, do I need to do anything 
specific to get it in, or just up end the bottle? How much do you put in in 
a go? 

Thanks for any willing to share their knowledge. I appreciate the brain 
trust that is this group. 

Brett, PDX

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[RBW] Re: new tires for my Homer

[Brett Callahan]

Alan, I've run the Cazaderos, albeit in a 700x50 blend, and absolutely love 
them. Durable, but roll better than they have any right to considering the 
knobs. Surprisingly little road noise, and they're great on dirt or gravel. 

I've also been very happy with my WTB Horizons. They're not as supple as 
the Compass offerings, but not having to change a flat every 15 feet, which 
has been my experience with my Compass Snoqualmie Pass, makes up for the 
extra bumps. 

I have no experience with the Rock 'n Roads, but I have a friend who has 
been running the same pair year round on his Surly Straggler in all 
conditions. He loves them. They've been durable and handle all conditions 
very well. 

Good luck,

Brett

On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 6:36:39 AM UTC-8, Alan H wrote:
>
> Looking for some input from folks that may have experience with these 
> different tires. I'd like to put wider rubber on my A Homer Hilsen. It's a 
> MUSA frame (possibly Toyo, I'm not sure how to tell the difference). 
> Regardless, I'm running the S!lver branded Tektro sidepulls and the wheels 
> are Rich-built with Synergy rims. I currently have Soma New Express tires 
> (650bx38mm) and would like something a bit wider to better set the bike up 
> for fire roads and differentiate it a bit from my Roadini, which is now my 
> primary road bike. The candidates are,
>
> Soma Cazadero (42mm)
> WTB Byway or Horizon (47mm)
> Compass tires, either the Babyshoe Pass (42mm) or the Switchback Hill 
> (48mm)
>
> My inclination is towards the Byway, provided it'll fit and WTB gets it 
> back in stock. IIRC Justin mentioned he put them on his Saluki, so I think 
> that means they should work (sans fenders of course). 
>
> I'd love to hear opinions and experience from folks. If there are other 
> similar tires you think I should consider please share that too!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alan
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: (Narrow) substitute for original issue Moustache bar with curves but less reach

[Brett Callahan]

Have you noticed that if you select the Crust Towel Rack, Poppi's face is 
in the background? I just cracked up at work. What a nice little easter 
egg. 

On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 3:13:16 PM UTC-8, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
> Oh MAN!
> 1) Goto http://whatbars.com
> 2) Select Nitto Mustache
> 3) Select VO Porteur
> 4) Endlessly scrutinize
> 5) post here about your scrutinization
> 6) Donate to http://PayPal.me/whatbars
>
> -J
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Work Stand Suggestions

[Brett Callahan]

Picked it up last night without incident. It appears to be in great shape 
for a used stand, and it fit, barely, in the back of a Ford Focus hatchback 
with the seats down. Fortunately there were no hard stops on the way home, 
because that thing has enough mass to punch right through a seat or window!

On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 10:36:00 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> That pro stand is worth its price.  Lots of pounds for the buck!  Congrats 
> on the purchase; I hope the pickup wasn't too painful.
>
> But those pounds are what makes Pro stands (like a Park PRS) so good; 
> they're sturdy and stable.  The folding-leg PCS designs work fine if you 
> prioritize that the stand be moveable.  But they aren't that stable once 
> they're loaded with a bike.
>
> But, if you can afford a permanent bike work station, the stability of  
> Pro stand is nice to have.  
> I believe a bench-mounted stand (like the Park PCS-12) are a better budget 
> choice than the PCS-10 (due to much better stability) -- but only if you 
> have a suitable mounting spot.  
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 2:39 PM Brett Callahan  > wrote:
>
>> Just called. It is still available and I'm going to pick it up tonight. 
>> Thanks for the tip, I really appreciate it!
>> Brett
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 11:18:21 AM UTC-8, Hoffsta wrote:
>>>
>>> I just saw this posed in another group:
>>>
>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bop/d/park-prs-4-proffesional/6744311771.html
>>>
>>> If I was in Portland I'd buy it today.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Work Stand Suggestions

[Brett Callahan]

Just called. It is still available and I'm going to pick it up tonight. 
Thanks for the tip, I really appreciate it!
Brett

On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 11:18:21 AM UTC-8, Hoffsta wrote:
>
> I just saw this posed in another group:
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bop/d/park-prs-4-proffesional/6744311771.html
>
> If I was in Portland I'd buy it today.
>

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[RBW] Work Stand Suggestions

[Brett Callahan]

Hi all, 

I'm moving to a bigger place with a basement that will be a great bike 
workshop area. Given the amount of time I spend tinkering, maintaining, and 
building bikes for my wife and I, I think it's time to upgrade past the 
cheap plastic work stand I have been using for the last three years. I 
don't know the name or model of what I have, but it is a mostly plastic job 
from Amazon. 

Wants/Needs: I'm not concerned with weight, or ability to store, as it will 
have a more or less permanent spot in the basement. I'm willing to pay a 
little more for durability--between my bikes, my wife's bikes and a 
revolving door of friend's bikes, I seem to do a lot of work on bikes 
lately. One-hand clamp operation would be great. A built in tool holder is 
unnecessary, but not a bad thing. 

I'd love to hear your suggestions! 

Brett, looking forward to a long winter of wrenching in PDX. 

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[RBW] Re: Experimental MIT Atlantis Build

[Brett Callahan]

Thanks for the response, James. The only mini-V's I've had luck with have 
been Paul Moto-Lites, which I find to be wonderful. However, on my MIT 
Atlantis, they won't clear the large rubber + fenders. Despite having set 
up a number of canti brakes on a number of bikes, and having read reams of 
digital paper on the how and why of the setup, I've never been able to get 
them to stop as well as V's. So for now, I'm running short pull Gevenalle 
shifters/brakes with travel agents and Shimano V's. It works just fine, but 
I figure the travel agents will increase wear on the brake cable and 
require more tinkering down the road.

Beautiful build, thanks for sharing it. I always enjoy your posts. 

Cheers, 
Brett

On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 7:49:35 AM UTC-8, James / Analog Cycles 
wrote:
>
> I have not used the Tektro levers, which in general are just so so.  These 
> are Cane Creek V brake levers, similar design to an older Tektro design, 
> but nicer materials and finish.  These work well.  Wider and longer than 
> the diacompe hoods, good for bigger hands or folks who are over the 'aero' 
> brake lever shape.  These brakes are not designed for short pull levers.  
> Mini V brakes in general are kinda wacky, you have to run the brake pads 
> really close to the rim, and they have poor mud/untru wheel clearance.  
>
> Well set up, low profile cantis are very powerful, and if one is looking 
> for short pull levers + canti's, that's the direction I'd suggest looking.  
> Lower profile than Paul's touring.  Look up the old Paul stop lites, 
> they're perfect in terms of power.  Something similar in design would 
> produce similar results.  Shimano Altus...  pretty great cheapo brake if 
> you upgrade the pads and ditch the lawyer straddle wire.  
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 1:48:34 PM UTC-5, Brett Callahan wrote:
>>
>> Same question. I'm running canti pull brake levers on my MIT Atlantis 
>> with V-brakes, which requires a Travel Agent. I tried out the Tektro 
>> V-brake levers and they are hot garbage. If the Bombshell brakes work with 
>> standard levers, that would great!
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 10:35:19 AM UTC-8, Drw wrote:
>>>
>>> are you using long pull levers, or do those bombshells function as 
>>> mini-v's?
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Experimental MIT Atlantis Build

[Brett Callahan]

Same question. I'm running canti pull brake levers on my MIT Atlantis with 
V-brakes, which requires a Travel Agent. I tried out the Tektro V-brake 
levers and they are hot garbage. If the Bombshell brakes work with standard 
levers, that would great!

On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 10:35:19 AM UTC-8, Drw wrote:
>
> are you using long pull levers, or do those bombshells function as 
> mini-v's?
>

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[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.

[Brett Callahan]

My sincere thanks to you all for your comments. I think I'll go ahead with 
the purchase. In the short term, I'll put kool stop pads on the Tektros and 
see how they feel. The consensus seems to be that the Paul's are a slight 
step up in power, but are more work to set up (fine with me) and vastly 
more expensive. 

I appreciate all of your input. 
Brett

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[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.

[Brett Callahan]

Joe, that begs a question! How fat were you able to go under the Paul's? 

I find the Paul's to have an industrial chic that is great, but the reason 
I keep buying their brakes is that they work great. My experience with 
Tektros has been more mixed, but they're a great value. I'll start with the 
Tektros and give them a few months. 

Thanks!
Brett

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 3:27:13 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Brett: As Will @ Riv explained it to me the main benefit of Racers is fat 
> tire clearance

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[RBW] Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.

[Brett Callahan]

Friends, 

I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the caliper 
brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a while 
since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required would 
seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the 
Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with 
these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne? 

If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good idea? 
(The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will look to 
tinker eventually...)

For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small 
front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I 
live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain. 

Thanks!

Brett

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[RBW] Re: New Dia Compe 610s on Redwood.

[Brett Callahan]

Really nice looking brakes, David. What are your impressions so far? Any 
idea what size tire they'll clear? I've got my eye on these as an upgrade, 
and I'm wondering if they'd squeeze a 700x38 shikoro. 
Best,
Brett

On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 3:56:08 PM UTC-7, David B wrote:
>
> Back to 700c for me, and added the new version of Dia Compe 610 brakes. 
> I had an old set on before and the change in spring tension on the new 
> version pairs up nicely with aero brake levers. 
> Photos here: https://instagram.com/p/Bl1UFf_B0aT/
>
> David 
> River Grove, IL
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[RBW] Recommended Mixed Surface Tires for Not-Too-Technical Riding?

[Brett Callahan]

Soma Cazadero come in 700x50, so they're close but not quite as big as what 
you're looking at.  They'll fit your Clem just fine and handle great on loose 
stuff and gravel.  They're also solid on pavement.  They corner well which some 
nobbies don't, and the raised center means a pretty quiet ride.   

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[RBW] Re: Cushy Cotton Bar Tape

[Brett Callahan]

Agreed. The Serfas woven is fantastic to the touch. 

For cotton tape, I've been cutting a used tube into quarters lengthwise (in 
half if you use skinny tires) and wrapping that tightly under the cotton 
tape. Gives some cush and increases the diameter a little, which my hands 
like. It works under the Serfas stuff as well, but I ran short on tape by 
about an inch wrapping drop bars. 
Brett

On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 2:45:49 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>
> I bought some but didn’t install. It doesn’t feel as cushy or cottony as 
> I’d hoped. I really like newbaums but the Serfas woven tape is a new 
> favorite. You can definitely wrap noodles with one package of the serfas 
> tape, and it’s about 25$

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[RBW] Re: Help me diagnose chain slip cause?

[Brett Callahan]

Well, I replaced the cassette and chain together last night. Problem 
solved. Once the cassette was off the hub I compared it to the new one. 
More worn than I had realized, but I'm still surprised it was causing 
issues. 

I've always read that a new cassette should get a new chain to prolong the 
life of both components, so I added a new chain as well, again using a 
second quick link to splice in a few extra links. No problem there. 

The bike is back to spinning along without issue, and I'll reevaluate my 
understanding of what constitutes "worn" when it comes to cassettes. 

Thanks all. 
Brett

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