Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne vintage
Patrick, You're right. I had forgotten the first green ones were canti. For some reason had it burned in my brain mine was sidepull. Just checked some old photos. Nope. Canti mounts. Looks like I was using V brakes for most of the time. Wonder if it was because the Tektro long sidepulls weren't available yet? I can't run tires over 40mm and fenders on mine now. Would love to run 42 to 45 with fenders. But am so used to this bike don't want to move it on and start over with another one. Not that it matters right now as the only bike getting ridden is the Clem L. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 9:00 AM Patrick Moore wrote: > I had a first edition Sam, all green with no cream or white, > pre-double-top-tubes, and with cantilever brakes. Orange and sidepulls > obviously came afterward. > > Why did Rivendell start using calipers on the Sam? Cantilevers are a > natural for this, for wider tires and fender clearance, especially as (I > think) the later designs accommodated wider tires than the first ones. > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:33 AM EricP wrote: > >> Yes, I believe it was first green, then orange, solid color. Had a green >> one. It's possible they were both available for a while. Then it was the >> blue with white/cream headtube option. Still sidepull brakes. And double >> top tubes on the big sizes. That's the model I still have. Believe the next >> batch after that went to canti. Really wish I had waited for that version. >> But of course had no idea it was in the works. >> >> Eric Platt >> St. Paul, MN >> >> On Friday, No >> > -- > > --- > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/iQAlTCYBd3w/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgu3UXk5Cizgge4qyfByQ4k3Sr%3D3%3Dwm1N3qWEc8jrcO3NA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgu3UXk5Cizgge4qyfByQ4k3Sr%3D3%3Dwm1N3qWEc8jrcO3NA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAC%3DA9uLgGuXUU1dDyYbJ6%2B9iJfsFBjvScT4RGooqtAodNpxHkQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)
Sorry, It was a quote from multiple James Bond movies. By an actor who played a character named "Q". Knew I shouldn't have said anything. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 3:46 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Not being a follower of Q, I wouldn’t know … Or is that what I would say > if I WAS a follower of Q? > > --Eric Norris > campyonly...@me.com > Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy > YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy > > On Aug 10, 2020, at 11:49 AM, EricP wrote: > > Isn't the correct response "Pay attention 007?" > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 10:59:21 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: >> >> >> On 8/10/20 11:37 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: >> >> I was riding my Quickbeam yesterday, and it dawned on me that the seat >> tube decal might lead some to an incorrect conclusion: >> >> >> So, just to be clear: I am NOT a follower of “Q” or “Q Anon” or any of >> those related conspiracy theories. >> >> Thanks. Just had to get that off my chest. >> >> >> Isn't that exactly what you would say if you were "Q" himself? >> >> >> Steve Palincsar >> Alexandria, Virginia >> USA >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/47006d54-7bbe-40ce-94f7-2d815d029dcfo%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/47006d54-7bbe-40ce-94f7-2d815d029dcfo%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/POGm38ZEik8/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2E8B87B9-535F-4B45-9538-800DB3D6047C%40me.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2E8B87B9-535F-4B45-9538-800DB3D6047C%40me.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAC%3DA9uJi3JcAoxPEQvL4XG40eWeLU3qseGdFccveTsC0McHxxQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Slowly reappearing
In my case had to go with the green. One time had a SimpleOne in a slightly similar color. Plus, my Hillborne is blue and I certainly can't have 2 bikes of the same color. . As to the Ogre, when I first got it, it was great. But after 6 or 7 years it just was no longer fun to ride. I put it on me, as the new owner loves it and considers it better than the one he had, which had been stolen. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, May 27, 2020, 9:04 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! < jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Eric, > > I think you will love your new Clem. You neglected to say which color you > got...if you got RBW blue then you and my Dad will be twinning with > matching Clems from this batch. Dad’s Clem will live on the North Dakota > side and yours will live on the Minnesota side. Pretty cool! > > I have the same bike in 52 (RBW blue) and I can tell you it’s really fun > to ride. It doesn’t feel fast but it doesn’t feel slow, either. I got mine > in October and have maybe 1400 miles on it now and I never get tired of > riding it. It’s in the shop getting new fancy, light tubeless wheels with > dyno, so I’m riding my husband’s 52 Clem H and man, getting used to a top > tube is an unnecessary evil, if you ask me. You’ll LOVE a step-through and > you’ll never want a diamond frame again. I don’t know if Dad knows about > the “girls’ bike stereotype” but I’ve watched him nearly fall over 3 times > trying to swing his long legs (he’s 6’3”) over his diamond frame. He WANTS > the step-through, whatever people call it matters nothing to him. > > So, you’re going to LOVE that bike. And I hope I run into you on it on the > bike trails in the Cities this summer! I’ll be the one with the blue Clem > and the colorful wheels. > Leah > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/DeBKSwSDvbc/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0f58eab4-f379-45ac-b88b-6baf0255d419%40googlegroups.com > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAC%3DA9uJLKs6Z_89GQePupSa0xhtxiXsGTttjs_uOu7a8ja97eQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Slowly reappearing
The short answer is the swoopy top tube. Easier to mount and dismount. Longer explanation is a bike that handles closer to the classic west coast mountain bike. And something that would let me toddle along without worrying about being too slow. My health has really slowed me down. And I prefer the looks of the Clem. Oh, and the Ogre was feeling like a slog every time I rode it. I was tired of it. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, May 27, 2020, 7:18 AM Doug Hansford wrote: > Welcome back Eric. I look forward to reading about your bicycle journeys > and such. What are you looking for in the Clem L that the Ogre didn't have? > Doug > > On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 6:27:00 AM UTC-4, EricP wrote: >> >> Just wanted to poke my head up and say "hi" to all the folks on the list >> again. It's been a long time since the last post. A lot of things meant it >> was no longer viable to monitor and contribute to the list. The changes >> over the past few years have been both good and bad. And will just keep it >> at that. >> >> What made me come back? It was Clem. Jumped in on the latest pre-sale for >> a 59. And to make it official, sold my non-Riv steel bike (Surly Ogre). >> Don't worry, still have the 60cm Sam Hillborne for riding. And it's been >> getting miles in this year. Have put more mileage on the past two months >> than the prior two years combined. Why Clem? Been sorely tempted on one >> ever since the first introduction. Life had a way of telling me it wasn't >> time. Now, it's time. >> >> So for now, it's good to be back and hope to have some pleasant >> conversations with folks on bikes and stuff. >> >> Eric Platt >> St. Paul, MN >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/DeBKSwSDvbc/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ebb3982f-f2b1-4f0a-a14f-3e427fc86dc8%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ebb3982f-f2b1-4f0a-a14f-3e427fc86dc8%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAC%3DA9uJ_xUeCaY4ONq0%3DeEP92L%3D0_%2BjVbc_JKckopJ9k9hCdGg%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] In search of the Delaware Gear
My fatbike has a low of 22x36. Not as low as it looks as the 3.8 inch tires make for a larger diameter. Have thought of making it a 42t in rear. Just because. On the Sam Hillborne, until last fall the bike was a 1x9 with 39t up front and 11-36 in back. Only changed it because I would be climbing some hills that were very steep for short pitches and wanted a lower gear. In retrospect, could have gotten by without it. In fact, as the bike is indoors this winter will probably change it back to the 1x9. Just easier to deal with for the vast majority of my riding. As for high gears, have rarely used my highest gear, no matter the bike. Might have shifted to the 11t cog on the Hillborne a couple of times. But in those cases it would have to be a downhill with a tailwind. And even then would probably just coast. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:48 PM, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: My 650b MTB has a a single 28 tooth chainring and 10-42 cassette, which yields a high GI around 77 and a low around 18.4. I used to race cyclocross with a single 39 tooth chainring and 12-27 cassette. 38 x 12-36 sounds nice for a mixed terrain bike. Equipped thusly, you will be able to escape the yammering toadies, if not keep up with the hammering roadies. - David G in San Diego On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Every state in America has a highest point. Among those 50 highest points, the highest highest point is about 19,685 feet on top of Mt McKinley. The lowest highest point is in Florida at 345 ft. But there's a song about lowest highest point being in Delaware, and Delaware has the lowest mean elevation, so I always think of Delaware having the lowest highest point. I'm thinking about pushing my 1x9 drivetrain as low as possible, while still being useful. I'm thinking specifically about a 38 ring, with a 12-36 cassette. I'm wondering if I will hate the drivetrain if my highest gear is only 83.3 inches. So, of all your multi-gear, derailer equipped bikes, who's got the LOWEST HIGHEST GEAR? My current personal lowest-highest gear is on my Atlantis. It's a 40x12 with 700x38 tires, so about 91.6 gear inches. Jan Heine's Herse has a high gear just over 90 and claims to have never been dropped on a descent due to not having a high enough gear. He asserts tucking at over 35mph is always more efficient than pedalling. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Worst
Interesting. I vary between the two. Are my bikes best or worst? Probably not. Although folks who don't like what I ride would probably consider them the worst. For most of my hobbies, it's the same way. Not the absolute best, not the worst. Am more of a reverse snob on a lot of things. Love what folks can do with things that are cheap, funky and out of the mainstream. Been that way since I found out about oddball guitars from Dan Forte and David Lindley. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Brian Campbell bdcampbel...@gmail.com wrote: +1. I'm in on this. On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 5:30:02 PM UTC-5, Zack wrote: how about be less of a d*ck about your stuff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Surly LHT vs vintage MTB
Ordered the 26 LHT in a 58cm frame before they were even out. Wanted a modern bike that somewhat duplicated the mid 80's Stumpjumpers I used to own. It is a competent bike, but like others have mentioned, it's not the most inspiring ride. Especially into a headwind. For some reason, it has never inspired me. Have had 4 or 5 different cockpit setups and may once again switch the bike over this winter. If I don't sell it and buy a fat bike. How does it compare to the old stuff? Generally agree with the others, you will notice a higher bottom bracket on an older mountain bike. And the really slack angles. I used to enjoy riding mine as a commuting bike and all-rounder. But it was not that good on things like single track. And today's trails would be even more of a challenge, IMO. The other thing I would argue is, unless you get lucky the LHT will probably have components that will last longer. Just because they are newer. Of course, like everything that would depend on whether the LHT is new or modified and what type of parts are hanging on the older mountain bike. Also, a lot of the lower level mountain bikes from the mid to late 1980's had high tensile steel in part, if not all of the frame. This is not in and of itself that bad, but something to consider in the price. My first mountain bike was a 1984 Ross Mt. Hood and the entire bike was hi-ten although it was labeled cro-moly at the time. (This was the black bike, not the chrome version.) Even a ca. 1990 Specialized Hardrock only had a cro-moly main triangle. Oh, and to pile on what Doug just said - I live not too far from the ACA northern tier route. Each year usually see a number of bikes that are heading across the country. The most common might be the LHT. Followed by older mountain bikes. Not scientific, just my observation. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:29 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Chris: All-rounder covers a lot of sins. I consider my Atlantis an all rounder because it's my daily ride, goes off road well enough for my purposes (like you, no single track gnarly MTBing) and I can toss 40 lbs of junk on it (and another 10 psi in the tires) and take off on tour. But there's a ton of bikes that'll do all that quite competently. The LHT is a known quantity that should be a competent all rounder. As to the differences between a pre-sus MTB and the LHT, I can offer my experience with my Atlantis '90 Fisher HK-II. The two most noticeable differences in handling come from the higher BB on the Fisher and the shorter chainstays. The Atlantis is more comfortable, stable, predicable, etc., BUT one needs to keep in mind it's easier to strike a pedal off-road. The higher BB on the MTB translates into more responsive handling with more ground clearance; desireable qualities off-road. OTH, the longer chainstays on the Atlantis mean far less fussing around when mounting panniers. I've used a rear rack with panniers on the Fisher, and the bags definitely get shoved as far back as possible for foot clearance (size 11 feet, not an unusual size). The Fisher is clearly a stiffer ride, as one would expect from a bike designed to bounce down Mt Tam, etc. With 2 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme tires, it still has gobs of clearance. There are a fair number of braze-ons I've had front low riders on as well as a rear rack. Recently I discovered it has an odd-ball headset size (1-1/4) so replacement parts may be a future issue. It's TIG welded steel, with no tubing stickers, and cost around $500 when I bought it in 1990. It has decent parts but I'm certain there were a gazillion similar bikes produced at the time. As a counterpoint, one of my touring buds has a late 90s rigid fork Stumpjumper that he has used for touring all over the world. He's not much for off-roading but declares the bike perfectly adequate for daily riding and fully loaded touring. He tours frequently with a couple that both have LHTs love'em dearly. If you don't plan on a lot of load carrying (but somehow that sneaks up on you when it can be done) you might compare the Cross Check to the LHT. Of course, right now the coolest all rounder is the Sam Hillborne.used ones come up for sale here from time to time. Food for thought. dougP On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 7:44:05 AM UTC-8, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: Anyone have any thoughts on positives or negatives associated with choosing a 26 LHT versus a 90's MTB, like a Stumpjumper or Rockhopper? I'm familiar with the geometry differences between the two and I will be using modern components (except for stem if I go vintage) so I'm interested in things like ride quality, the impact of the tubing used in each, etc This will be an all-rounder bike that is primarily ridden on pavement with the option to ride on packed dirt, gravel and even double track. I have no interest in single-track or mountain biking as it currently exists. Riv
Re: [RBW] Re: Coldest Ride on a Rivendell Ever?
I salute you for riding in such cold. Have ridden in the teens to about -20F. As it was 30+ years ago, didn't have the correct gear for it. Don't think I could get myself out when it gets in the -30 to -40 range. Wow. The only foot covering that I know of that could maybe, just maybe handle that would be Sorrel boots with a couple of layers of socks inside. Even then, I wouldn't want to ride far. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I’m in SoCal today (alas, with no bike) and it is indeed unnaturally warm here. I had to run the AC in my rental car yesterday! --Eric N campyonly...@me.com www.CampyOnly.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy Blog: http://CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:02 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, those pictures are fantastic, thanks for them and the write up! I posted a pic to the winter thread, but here's another one of today's outing: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/16046526337/ I have no frame of reference for what you did!!! On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:28 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: All I can say is you guy's are nuts! Well I'll add this, Mark a really compelling story and adventure...though I have to say I'll pay the high real estate prices out here in the land of 20C ~Hugh shivering at 7C Smitham Los Angeles, CA On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 7:37:46 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote: Over the holidays I got a hair-brained idea to try a really long, cold ride. 165km door-to-door from my apartment to my parents cabin for Christmas. I'd bring my 4-season tent and a new (to me) -30 sleeping bag along and try sleeping out on the frozen lake. I'd done it before in a quinzee, but was eager to try a tent. The temperature was hovering around -12C for most of the week, so I felt really good about it. Then the day before, everything changed. Temperature: -30C, and -40C with the windchill. That's the point where celcius and farenheit meet! The ride would be nearly entirely across the open prairies, so it would be windy. And cold. Very cold. It was too late to back out though, I had told too many people I was going to do it no matter what! Here's the Atlantis kitted up for the rid https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-sqXhgL0B7_o/VK6j79NsbLI/JPs/laj-YUT9DoY/s1600/DSC_0143.jpg I had a North Face 4-season winter tent in one pannier. A North Face -30C sleeping bag in the other. Carradice bag had spare/dry mitts, hat, down jacket, etc. Front bag had camera, food and a pile of chemical hand/toe warmers. Here's a photo a family member took of me while I was about 45km into the ride. She had just asked me if I was having fun. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w7B0Z1THRG4/VK6kIGvURUI/JP0/2ItIledp7Ho/s1600/DSC_0187.jpg And a few more from the ride. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tmkaUJn9Tlk/VK6itmfCdTI/JPE/tjawN72KYZQ/s1600/DSC_0159.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ddyyOU7Qq5Y/VK6izR2jl7I/JPM/d3HDei6RxAw/s1600/DSC_0180.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YAuZ70UNjak/VK6i3w7Ul9I/JPU/Fe6VCgePwJ4/s1600/DSC_0194.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bUJ4WKBd9ek/VK6i9WoSLCI/JPc/XTabLEyehKo/s1600/DSC_0259.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_JsCOMXyQqU/VK6jBf77VoI/JPk/G1sZtCo5OkY/s1600/DSC_0273.jpg In the end I only made it halfway there. 85km later my toes had finally frozen solid, and the sun was starting to get pretty low. I was riding with my dad, who's face had begun to blister and turn white from frostbite. We were out for 5 hours. Later in the week, I was in the emergency room for a minor cut and met two people who had turned their hands completely black from exposure on that day, after being outside less than 10 minutes each. I felt pretty good about my 5 hours. When I arrived at the cabin, the warmth of the fire and blankets was too much to overcome. I spent the night warm and toasty, which I do not regret at all. I'm going to attempt a much shorter overnight in a few weeks though, so I can test out the winter camping gear. Get out there! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr
Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow
Early Stumpjumpers were 68 degrees. The first version of the Stumpjumper Sport was 67 degrees. The chainstays were 18.5 and 19 inches, respectively. Eric Platt On January 8, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Dave Johnston jdi...@gmail.com wrote: I looked up the Geo of the '89 Koga and the head angle is supposed to be 72°. Rake is 46mm. Any idea what the head angle of the early Stumpjumpers was? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wow, I mean, just wow
Not lugged. Possibly brazed. And ovalized seat tube. Very much like the Ritchey bikes. I won't comment on price. To the right person it might be fair. The seller does have or best offer . Always loved the lines of the early mountain bikes. Not in the market for one. Most of those early bikes that ended up in Minnesota have died of rust. Eric Platt On Jan 7, 2015 2:15 PM, Addison Wilhite addisonwilh...@gmail.com wrote: As a showpiece it's worth the money they're asking. As in, hang it on the wall as a conversation piece while your'e drinking a beer and reminiscing about the early days of mtn biking. Addison Wilhite, M.A. Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology http://www.washoeschools.net/aact *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”* Educator: Professional Portfolio http://addisonwilhite.blogspot.com/ Blogger: Reno Rambler http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/ Bicycle Advocate: Regional Transportation Commission, Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory Committee http://www.rtcwashoe.com/public-transportation-22-124.html On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:49 AM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not seeing the lugs...? - Andrew, Berkeley On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 10:49:35 AM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more like those $100 water bottles: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper- original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/ 301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frameshash=item463135659d I don't know whether to laugh or cry -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Welcome Wagon [Share Your Pics]
Nice for being out. I'm at the point of chickening out of riding these past few days. We did get up to +8F today. Lots of black ice. Even though I have studded tires, the cars don't. Snow can be fun. Or, once it packs to a hard icy surface, not so much. At least to me. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Great pics, Tony! Yes, you'll likely find that snow resistance varies with type and temperature and freeze/thaw cycle, etc. There is a reason Inuit have over 30 words for snow -- each flavor is a vastly different experience! Grin. Enjoy! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] How long does the rivbike.com $75+ free shipping via USPS take?
I wouldn't worry. UPS didn't move stuff over the last weekend. They handle the package until handoff to the post office. Eric Platt On January 6, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious, wondering if I should get worried or not. Got the email that the items had shipped on 12/29 but haven't seen them yet. Granted there was a holiday thrown in there so maybe I should expect longer. Just trying to set my expectations, I guess. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Knobbies for 26 Atlantis
If it can handle it, the Schwalbe Racing Ralph 55mm. Have used the same tire on my 29er and they are excellent both on and off road. Oh, and they are light. Downside is not much flat protection, but did I mention they are light? Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: The Cazadero would be perfect-- since Old Cazadero is just the riding I have in mind. Alas, I don't see a 26 Cazadero. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: So I did enjoy the 42mm wide Cazaderos, because of the smooth center thread and knobs on the sides. I also found the Clement MSO to be a very nice mixed tire. Not sure any of these are available in 26. The Panaracer Driver Pro looks very interesting too, I think that comes in a 26. The center is textured but not knobby but there's a nice side knob. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: I love my Smart Sams (700c/29er) on my Hunqaillar. I ride a wide range of surfaces with them, from miles of paved, to packed dirt, loose dirt, trails, muddy (but not soggy mud) and pockets of really loose gravel and sand, snow. They do poorest in the looser stuff, excellent on all the rest, though my riding is not super aggressive, so a more specialized tire would likely be lost on me. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 2:51:17 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: If you were putting knobbies on an Atlantis, for mixed terrain fun, what tire would you pick? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite weather to ride in.
Favorite is about 20 to about 85. Above and below that range it's a bit more of an effort for me to get out on the bike. Have ridden to the -20F range when I was younger. Probably won't do that again. Have had mild hypothermia enough to prefer warm to cold. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 10:04 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Here in Los Angeles I figure any temp makes for good riding...went out for a ride in mid forties which is pretty cold for here,can and does get colder. In the recent past I've been a fair weather rider, but reading all the cold weather reports I've felt inclined to buck up and brave the cold weather. On my most recent ride which I mentioned above there was something invigorating about the cold air reaching down into my lungs and the side/head wind making me work harder for every revolution, with legs fatigued what made it all the sweeter was the warmth of my home upon returning. To directly answer the post question, low 60's to mid 80's. I can and do ride in the mid 90's much above that, we'll that's just crazy talk. ~Hugh On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 2:48:16 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote: Here in East San Diego we have had a cool day. About 52 degrees Fahrenheit (11 degrees Celsius) with fun sun and a light breeze at 2:30 pm. I really like the cool temps, so I was wondering what is your favorite riding weather. For me it is what I experienced to day. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I WANT ONE OF EACH.....AHEM Grant
I nabbed the AHH knife when it was first offered. Seems to me it was stated (either in Reader or Blug, I forget) that the cost of having them engraved went up too much to make it worth it. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:15 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Goodies like T-shirts, knives, etc., tend to come in batches often not repeat often. If there's something I like, I just buy 2, like the coin purses. Hey, with that logic I should get a 2nd Atlantis! But OTH it's not likely to wear out, break or get lost. dougP On Friday, December 19, 2014 1:28:11 PM UTC-8, Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado wrote: RIv Reader #39 ,early 2007,page 34, There are pictures of A.Homer Hilsen stuff...Swiss knife ,visor, hat, and t-shirt. I would like to see that stuff offered again...for me I'd be happy with the hat (made by Randi Jo of course)and tee shirt and I would like mine to say: Sam Hillborne with a head badge on the front,PLSE. I was drooling over the Mondaine watch but can't swing it right now, but would jump on the hat and tee. I think a hat and tees offered for each Riv model frame would sell. If you agree or would like one,give a shout out to Mr. G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Daring to wrench on my Riv's?
The Felco looks to be about $20 more than the Park. Have a Park in my tool kit which works for my use. The first Park wire cutter I had lasted over 20 years. Died when I put too many dents in the cutting edge. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:25 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Any ideas? How'd you learn? Trial and error. Rivendell YouTube videos. Best tool in the garage: my stand. I'm not sure how I lived without one for so long. Makes everything so much easier. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Thankful for rain
I've abandoned fenders on one winter bike. With 2.3 inch wide studded tires, fenders just don't work. Have a PDW mudshovel up front. Need to create something for the rear. In the past, was able to use fenders on the 26 wheel winter bike. But even then, things get pretty jammed up with snow/slush. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Noise and clogging from rocks, duff, and sticks. Plus, I don't mind getting wet or dirty. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, December 3, 2014 5:27:27 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Why have you abandoned fenders and knobbies? Clearance problem, or something else? Fenders really do keep the bike (the rider too, of course) cleaner. I remember a regular ride I used to do that involved a section of pavement off of which many dirt driveways led. On a wet day the road wasn't merely wet, it was covered in a third of an inch of thin, muddy gruel. Decent fenders (at the time mine were Zefals, IIRC) and a long and wide flap kept even the chainstays clean. The erstwhile Diamondback mountain bike went through a development stage where it wore 60 mm SKS fenders over 60 mm Big Apples, and rides through local dirt road mud were suprisingly sanitary - even if the traction was not optimum. On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: I've given up on fenders with knobbies, but they are brilliant with road tires! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *[I]n exploring the physical universe man has made no attempt to explore himself. Much of what goes by the name of pleasure is simply an effort to destroy consciousness. If one started by asking, what is man? what are his needs? how can he best express himself? one would discover that merely having the power to avoid work and live one’s life from birth to death in electric light and to the tune of tinned music is not a reason for doing so.”* * -- George Orwell, Pleasure Spots* *Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not money, I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money, these three; but the greatest of these is money. * * -- George Orwell, Keep The Apidistra Flying* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: What components do you wish RBW would start making?
Huh, that was the component I was thinking about, too. Can't ever see it happening, but would be nice to put Jones bars on bikes. Or some of the Salsa bars with really short reach. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Dan A d...@abelsons.net wrote: 31.8 clamp diameter quill stem, for those of us who would like a wider selection of bars on the our bikes with quill stems without resorting to kludges. Dan Abelson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Thanks From the RBW Family to Yours
My favorite was the photo. Which caused me to do more looking up of the original black friday. Then put the photo up on my Facebook page. Oh, and have to give another plug to the U.S. Grant autobiography. One of my favorite books. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Any bicycle company that quotes Meister Eckhart can't be all bad Keep it up, Rivendell! And happy Thanksgiving! Patrick Moore, who just picked up his holiday flyer at the PO, riding his 75 fixed '99 gofast in hilly, windy Rio Rancho, NM. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Rivendell Bicycle Works no-re...@rivbike.com wrote: We're grateful for another good year. View this email in your browser ( http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=2f6e414de5e=706fe9c1c5 ) If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, 'Thank you,' that would suffice. -Johannes Eckhart ** Thanks We're all so grateful to our customers for keeping this ship afloat here in Walnut Creek for twenty years. It's been great fortune to have a business that makes fun things, somehow able to survive the slings and arrows of the recession, new competitors, the internet, international currency fluctuations, price-competition, defamation and tithes to the taxman. Business is good, and we're trying to do good business. We'll keep it up in years to come. But it'd all be nothing without your orders. Thank you. ** Laid Back Fry ** Black Friday used to be a bad thing. To gild refined gold, to paint the lily, to throw a perfume on the violet, to smooth the ice... is wasteful and ridiculous excess. - Shakespeare Long before it became a shopping holiday the phrase Black Friday in America referred to financial panic of September 24, 1869 when two of the most rottenest Tammany Hall Robber Barons (with others collectively known as the Riv-sounding Tweed Ring) cornered the gold market, sent prices plummeting (see our header image) and ruined many a good fortune for others. Your gold? Worthless! Moohaha! Ulysses S. Grant, the great Union Army General of the Civil War was president during this period, known as the Gilded Age. Despite his resounding success as an Army General, he was a stupendously bad U.S. Prez, getting duped by seemingly everyone while trying to fix the broken country--resulting in various financial panics, corruption charges, etc. Afterwards, when he was broke and dying of throat cancer (in the picture above), even publishers were trying to scam him into bad deals for writing a book. Mark Twain came to the rescue and scored him a deal letting his family keep 75% of the royalties from the memoir. I read it, it's great! He was a horse guy through and through, but any bike-people or otherwise ramblin-folk out there will enjoy the early parts where he's touring around the South and Mexico with his buddies on horseback, camping out, climbing volcanoes, roughing it. They covered a lot of ground. Don't forget to check out our Holiday Flyer PDF online ( https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzo7-V-zcAdRekZaVDcwbWFvU0k/view) . Some of the prices are wrong, but hey we're not perfect. Lots of gifty things like books and saws for people that don't like bikes yet. ** The Changing Colors of Autumn Bagmatchers Alert!! As Grant noted in the Blug ( http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/103234297799/joe-appaloosa-etc-bikes-for-2015-projex-well) , the cotton fabric on our Sackville Bags will be different colors come spring. SO if you like tan or olive Sackville bags ( http://www.rivbike.com/Bike-Bags-s/37.htm) , act soon. They'll be different colors for at least a year, not saying yet what those new colors are. Also check the blug for the Sam Hillborne anagram contest! http://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2F9hU35 Share ( http://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2F9hU35 ) http://us1.forward-to-friend.com/forward?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=2f6e414de5e=706fe9c1c5 Forward ( http://us1.forward-to-friend.com/forward?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=2f6e414de5e=706fe9c1c5 ) ** Coupon Code Not my circus, not my monkeys, not my problem. - Polish Idiom It's the busiest shopping day of the year Friday, but we'll be closed like we always do (Thursday too). You can avoid the crowds, hey! by shopping with us online. Place a web order on our site between now and December 8 using coupon code: ** thanks for 6% off an entire order between $50 and $800. We reopen Saturday here with Harry Joe and Scott. Bike
Re: [RBW] Re: Cold weather water ideas - how to stop freezing bottles?
Agree with Deacon, if you are riding longer distances in serious cold, a CamelBak or similar under a jacket is possibly the best way. The past couple years, my winter rides are shorter, so it's not as much of an issue. Will usually just fill a Contigo insulated bottle and be fine. Have discovered that hot water is better at the start. Also, plastic bottles like Polar which have insulation seem worse than useless, IMO. Also, would recommending you check blogs of folks that have ridden the Arrowhead 135. They might have some good ideas. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 6:41 PM, iamkeith keithhar...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a trick I've used for a long time backcountry skiing, but I've adapted it to snow biking more recently: I bring (at least) two bottles, filled with WARM water of varying degrees. The first is just hot, while the second is close to boiling. By the time I'm ready to drink the second, it's usually pretty cold already. OR (outdoor research) makes some bottle parkas that I've been experimenting with, but I honestly can't tell if they make a huge difference, or if a good double-wall bottle would work just as well. Certainly can't hurt. What's nice though is that these and Nalgene bottles fit into Salsa Everything Cages quite well. Most of my riding and skiing takes place in temperatures in the 0 to 20 F range (-18 to -6 C), and this will easily work for four hours or more. On Monday, November 24, 2014 2:13:03 PM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote: To the northerners here - what are your solutions for keeping water from freezing on long winter rides? I'm mean when it's real cold, -10C to -35C. I've tried it all - insulated water bottles (works for a little while), insulated sleeves around insulated water bottles (works better than just bottles, but still has limits), and my personal favourite, pouring a bunch of bourbon into your water (kinda works I think, but maybe I just drank it all before it had a chance to freeze..). I'm planning a 160km ride over Christmas break up to my family's cabin. It will be cold, with stops approx every 40km. So I could just not drink any water other than at the stops, but that isn't ideal. Any home-brew solutions out there? I had also thought of insulating my Swift Ozette bag with some heat reflecting material and air bubble wrap, sealing it relatively tight and throwing a hand warmer in there (assuming there is enough air movement to keep the chemical reaction going). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there
Okay, I found Steve's comment extremely funny. Mainly as my wife has worked for USDA for 25+ years. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 11/20/2014 04:18 PM, Tim Gavin wrote: But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare *sub-standard* cuts of meat and keep them moist. Are you talking about USDA quality and yield grades below Standard, i.e., Commercial grade and Utility, Cutter and Canner grade? http://www.meatgrades.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Industry Controlled by Grant Peterson
While Fat Tire Flyer was my main influence into riding bikes with wider tires, the short-lived magazine Mountain Bike - for the Adventure put out by Hank Barlow was more my style. It focused more on touring back roads and recreational riding, moreso than racing. Although racing did show up in the magazine. The first issue actually had reviews of small tents for mountain bike touring. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:15 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: I pre-ordered mine on Amazon back when a first came available and devoured it once I got it. You are right, I almost got the Kindle version but that would ahve been such a waste on a library quality, coffee table sized book full of illustrations and photos. I've watched Klunkerz, read Barto's Birth of Dirt as well as a lot of articles but I still learned some fascinating stuff. I also highly recommend it to anyone interested in bike history. On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 1:31:12 PM UTC-6, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, all- Re: the Marin-legacy and it's influence on bike culture, check out Charlie Kelley's new memoir, Fat Tire Flyer. It's a book of both lavish production quality as well as a compelling storytelling. =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 11/5/14, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com wrote: Nice article. So basically we are just going back to the All-Terrain Bikes that came out of Marin County in the late 70's and early 80's. I've done a bit of reading about the history of the MTB (as well as watching Klunkerz) and those guys (and a couple of girls) were really just doing exactly what Guitar Ted is talking aboutdeveloping bikes that could be ridden almost anywhere. The whole downhill/extreme terrain thing came about when the racers took over. I know that Repack was all about racing and was a huge influence but it seems those guys were doing a lot of what would now be called expedition biking. I've evolved to prefer just that type of bike and no longer have any interest in riding anything less than 55mm tires. When I picked up a 1984 MTB last year, I did some research on bikes from that era and in 1985 Bicycling put out a book and they were still referring to them as ATB's, which is actually much more appropriate than mountain bike. On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:21:18 AM UTC-6, Noah Deuce wrote: Hyperbole, sure, but the drum GP has been beating for decades (better tire clearance, too much emphasis on racing, etc.) has finally turned into a product category that may save the industry from itself. Just see the latest by Guitar Ted: http://www.gravelgrindernews.com/less-about-the-rock-and- more-about-the-roll/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] New to Me Rivendell Road (Standard)
Nice bike. Not sure I've seen it in person. Is the photo from the park at the end of the high bridge? As to flats due to glass, I get them riding around St. Paul, too. Before switching back to Little Big Ben's back on the Hillborne, had 3 flats due to glass on the Barlow Pass tires in three weeks. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Oct 29, 2014 10:20 AM, WETH erlhous...@gmail.com wrote: That is a gorgeous bike! I do like the look with the 650b and fenders. Thanks so much for sharing the photo. I had read somewhere else about the tread pattern in the Lierre trapping bits of road flotsam and jetsam; I am sorry to learn they pick up glass on your commute. I have ridden Compass 26 x 1.75 tires on my Atlantis for about 6 months, like how they handle, and have yet to have a flat. Thanks again for the helpful info and photos. Erl On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:09:34 AM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote: Here's a newer shot, as promised. Wrong side, sorry. We had just climbed up a steep, long grade across from St. Paul, so catching my breath came before aesthetics. The sidewalls of the Lierres are more dingy a year later. I commute a 1-2 days a week on this bike (1-2 days on other bikes), so the tires are getting some miles on them. They're a great tire but not great for commuting; I get about 1 flat a month from glass shards. The glass shards seem to get caught in the zig-zag tread of the Lierre; I think they wouldn't get caught as easily in the finer, file tread of the Loup Loup Pass. The VO 650 x 45 mm fenders fit a little more closely than SKS P45's, and they have less clearance due to nuts inside the fender. But they look nice, aren't noisy, and seem to hold their position well (maybe because they're metal vs. chromo-plastic). You'd have more clearance with VO Zeppelin 650 x 52 mm fenders, and they should fit--but maybe with a little crimping at the fork crown. Or just go P45's, they're pretty easy. Enjoy the Road Standard, and share more pics when you have it built. I absolutely love the lugs, head badge, and the ride. And the fact that it says Rivendell on the down tube makes it easier to explain to people. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:12 PM, WETH erlho...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, thanks for the photo. The wheels/tires look nice on the bike. It helps as I wanted to get a sense proportionally how the smaller wheels and larger tires would look on the frame. Bruce, I appreciate your information too about brakes, tires and the conversion to 650b. I am pleased that three of you have done the conversion and like the results. All the best, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] New to Me Rivendell Road (Standard)
Tim, No, just the Barlow Pass. Don't have a 650B bike. Makes more sense. I was on a Surly Ogre at the river bottoms ride. Didn't make the Friday ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Oct 29, 2014 11:09 AM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote: Eric- I'm not sure exactly where the photo was taken; we were visiting St. Paul for the Ramble last month. It's on the west bluff. I live and commute in Cedar Rapids, IA. You had flat problems with the Barlow Pass as well as the Lierres? I have some Mitsuboshi Trimlines to try out once the Lierres are done, and I figured I'd try the Barlow Pass after that. My other main commuter is a vintage Schwinn KOM on micro-knobby tires. I get no flats on those tires, so who knows. On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: Nice bike. Not sure I've seen it in person. Is the photo from the park at the end of the high bridge? As to flats due to glass, I get them riding around St. Paul, too. Before switching back to Little Big Ben's back on the Hillborne, had 3 flats due to glass on the Barlow Pass tires in three weeks. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] New to Me Rivendell Road (Standard)
Forgot to finish my thought. The Twin Cities seems to have more glass on the roads than most places. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Oct 29, 2014 11:09 AM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote: Eric- I'm not sure exactly where the photo was taken; we were visiting St. Paul for the Ramble last month. It's on the west bluff. I live and commute in Cedar Rapids, IA. You had flat problems with the Barlow Pass as well as the Lierres? I have some Mitsuboshi Trimlines to try out once the Lierres are done, and I figured I'd try the Barlow Pass after that. My other main commuter is a vintage Schwinn KOM on micro-knobby tires. I get no flats on those tires, so who knows. On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: Nice bike. Not sure I've seen it in person. Is the photo from the park at the end of the high bridge? As to flats due to glass, I get them riding around St. Paul, too. Before switching back to Little Big Ben's back on the Hillborne, had 3 flats due to glass on the Barlow Pass tires in three weeks. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again
With the recent phenomenon of much wider tires, 3 plus it can get difficult for multiple chainrings to play nice with fat tires and maintain a reasonable Q factor. And related to that, front deraileurs are tougher to design and mount on these bikes. 1x or 2x is one solution. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Oct 22, 2014 9:22 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 10/22/2014 09:37 AM, cyclotourist wrote: But why the move to get rid of triples and even doubles? As I understand it, the issues are roughly these: - triples don't play well with brifters - wide range cassettes can replicate the gear range of road triples - for cyclocross, deciding when/where to shift the front and then double-shift the rear and then executing it on steep short hills and in the hurry and stress of competition can be challenging and difficult, compared to shifting the rear alone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
Totally agree with that observation. But I wasn't biking in 1994, so am unable to speak from experience there. Wonder how much the 29er concept also influenced the bikes? As to the QBP brands, I'm not sure. From what I have read, they are pretty indepdent of each other. As in they don't all sit around and decide who is going to develop what type of bike. Not even sure they communicate that much while working. From photos I've seen they all have different office areas. Definitely run by distinct groups of people. With individual marketing concepts. For the record, I like most of the Surly marketing, even though I don't have a beard, tattoos or drink adult beverages under bridges or next to barrel fires. Mainly because it is different. And that is something I can identify with. Different. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 9:44 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I think the growth and acceptance of large tire sizes definitely happened on Grant's/Rivendell's watch and he can humbly take the majority of credit for it. He obviously didn't invent the concept of a demi-ballon tire, and others were working in tandem (Jan, Surly, etc), but in modern mainstream cycling, the concept was lost. Think about it: Prior to 1994, what was considered a large road bike (not touring) tire was 28mm. That grew to 33.3mm, and now it's a full 42mm! There are plenty of MCRBs that still barely fit a 28, but people don't question larger tires. One of my local buddies who is fully into the local carbon crit scene was complaining how the fenders on his commuter couldn't fit his new 35mm Kojaks. The times they have a' changed! Alt topic: Did not know that about All City being a QBP brand. Anybody know how distinct and the level of independence the various QBP marques have? On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: A couple of days ago, someone asked what type of Dutch bike my Sam Hillborne was. He was quite serious and shocked when I informed him the bike was modern and designed in California. This was actually the first time I'd been on a trip up to Grand Marais, MN with a Rivendell. Previous trips had been with either a Surly or Salsa. Oh, and don't forget that All City bikes is also a QBP product. Sort of their own niche. And in seeing the numbers of them around here, replacing the Surly Cross Check as the standard bike of the Twin Cities. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: You can always remove decals... What kind of bike is that? Steel ? Just in case some folks didn't know, Surly is a brand (like Salsa now, among others) owned by QBP (Quality Bicycle Products) which is the largest wholesaler of bike parts accessories within the US. That means that if you are a QBP dealer (which most shops are), you can stock Surly bikes. For a smaller dealer, this means that you can offer models without having the necessarily pre-order a container load. This a good thing for independent dealers and good thing for folks who have wanted options from what the brand-intensive shops stock. They focused on an underserved (heck, at the time _UN_served) part of the market and have executed well for a while now. - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw
Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
A couple of days ago, someone asked what type of Dutch bike my Sam Hillborne was. He was quite serious and shocked when I informed him the bike was modern and designed in California. This was actually the first time I'd been on a trip up to Grand Marais, MN with a Rivendell. Previous trips had been with either a Surly or Salsa. Oh, and don't forget that All City bikes is also a QBP product. Sort of their own niche. And in seeing the numbers of them around here, replacing the Surly Cross Check as the standard bike of the Twin Cities. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: You can always remove decals... What kind of bike is that? Steel ? Just in case some folks didn't know, Surly is a brand (like Salsa now, among others) owned by QBP (Quality Bicycle Products) which is the largest wholesaler of bike parts accessories within the US. That means that if you are a QBP dealer (which most shops are), you can stock Surly bikes. For a smaller dealer, this means that you can offer models without having the necessarily pre-order a container load. This a good thing for independent dealers and good thing for folks who have wanted options from what the brand-intensive shops stock. They focused on an underserved (heck, at the time _UN_served) part of the market and have executed well for a while now. - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Clem on the Blug
I was not as thrilled with the Compass 26x1.75 on my Long Haul Trucker as the Schwalbe Kojak tires they replaced. They are better than Big Apples. Not saying they are bad tires, they're not bad. Quite good. My personal preference is for something even wider. Especially on that bike. As to the Clem, I'd really like the 59cm to stay 700C. That way I have a choice of skinny tires (Compass Barlow Pass 38mm) or go wide such as most 29er 50mm or 60mm tires. It's getting to the point where 38mm are almost too skinny except for smooth roads. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Someone else (or perhaps Eric on an earlier occasion) opined the same, which makes me sit up because I have been toying with the thought of seeing whether the 559X1.5s might not fit under the crown of my Riv customs. Can anyone confirm or, in the event, describe other experience? After all, there is the 32 mm 559 Kojak, which is a pretty darn nice tire, and Panracer still has the 559 Pasela in 1.5 for half the Compass's price. ... Or are the 559 Paselas only in Tourguard nowadays? On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: Except for the Barlow Pass. And in a bit of an apples to oranges comparison, I didn't think my 26 Compass tires were any better than my (much, much cheaper) 700 x 35 Paselas. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: RBW] Seat post clamp bolt snapped
This used to happen on one of my bikes. Tapping the bolt out works. Two other suggestions when you do get it out. First see if the cable hanger binding on the seatpost. Had to grind a bit off one to make things work. Also as others suggested, measure the seatpost. In my case, had to get rid of the Nitto post and went to a Kalloy that fit better. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On October 13, 2014, at 11:14AM, Jason Hartman wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Not Riv, but new Rivish build...
Very nice build. And bike. That's the version with the top and downtube flared at the headtube, right? Fillet up front and lug in the rear. Not quite a bike mullet. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Edwin W dweenda...@hotmail.com wrote: My orange Sam is, um, green with envy. Couldn't resist. Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug
Like it enuf to think about selling my LHT to get one. For bottle mounts how about just one set. Bare seat tube. Would also prefer black or a rusty bike color. Less obvious to bad folk. Eric Platt On Oct 10, 2014 9:47 AM, Edwin W dweenda...@hotmail.com wrote: Grant, let me help you with your questions (yes, I know you weren't asking me directly, and that they were not really questions): - No bottle mounts. I thik that’s kind of neat, but it’s not neat if it’s a dealkiller, and it will surely be that for somebody, so on they’ll go. - Good! Because you know many of your riders will go on long meandering rides. And drink at the same time. - we might turn the rear fender mount down 90 deg. A case can be made either way. - For the fenders you sell, it is easier if it is facing backwards. - raise the upper rack mounts 20mm? Probably, but no bigge if we don’t. - No bigge to me. (We New Yorkers like biggie, like the notorious one.) - move the kickstand plate forward almost an inch. So there’s a balance of clearance. - Balance is good. - the binder bolt cavity is an odd surprise. - Let's not have TOO many surprises - keep this standard like other bikes, please, even if it does fit a very common bolt. Other things: - Can we have two eyelet's up front - rack and fender, please? Mid-fork's might not be necessary with canti studs there for the asking. - If you are selling them complete only, you should have a dyno upgrade option (since you have that big box of dyno-hubs lying around). - Where's the shifter going? Thumbie on bar? - I like a lot of the details - 1x8 - makes sense, shifts great. - Nice 'n' wide tires - Pre-sale??? Looking forward to watching this develop, Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally
Anne, The fat bikes were fun. The new Ice Cream Truck is the best of the bunch. Well, except for a Ventana with a shocked fork. However, when all was said and done, if I were to buy a new fatbike, it would be an ECR. That is more my preference in both handling and comfort while riding. We spent the rest of the afternoon riding the Missisippi river bottoms. Basically hardpacked sand/mud with occasional stretches of sand. There were a couple of Rivendells on that ride, but most of the riders were on fatbikes or other Surly bikes. (I rode my Surly Ogre with 2.3 inch tires and someone else was on a Surly Troll.) Unfortunately, due to job (yesterday) and band practice (tomorrow) am unable to make the other events. Jim or someone else will need to post a report. All in all, a fun day. Even if I wasn't on my Rivendell. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Hey country bike people, report back to us how you like the fat bikes in the demos. On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 6:21 AM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote: That's great news, Jim! My girlfriend and I are excited for the demo. We'll meet you at HC tonight! Tim On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Surly loaned me several fat bikes. Four Ice Cream Trucks and a couple Moonlanders in various sizes. We will add these to the HC family fat bike stable, and have lots of bikes available to demo. 9am 9/27 Saturday morning. Meet at HC to ride to the demo site, or just go to the parking lot near the interpretive center at Fort Snelling state park. On Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:52:35 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Hey, I finally posted some details about the rally next weekend. Hope to see many of you there. tell your friends! http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2014/09/country-bike-rally-details.html On Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:48:15 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Ha, I enjoy the drive across northern Wisconsin! Too bad you can't make it, Michael. On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 3:35:52 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote: Jim, Alas Pat and I need to bow out of this event, although we are sorry to miss it. It turns out that after a very,very, busy summer neither one of us was up for the 4 days of driving to from St Paul. We have made the trip before. The road through Ontario is really only worth seeing once and after you leave Green Bay (the bay not the city) northern Wisconsin is dreadfully boring. We need to relax more, spend and drive less. We will drive one day through scenic southern NE and then take the tandem to Block Island ( 6 hours off the coast of RI) for two days. Michael On Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:05:41 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Been chatting with some friends, and I think it might be fun to have a fatbike demo on one of the days. Fat bikes have nothing to do with Rivendell, but they are about as country as bikes get. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Considering my first Riv purchase and looking for helpful advice
Much like guitars, never found anything close to a lifetime bike. In a related matter, a friend of mine has been through more custom guitars and custom bikes than I can count. At least 4 custom bikes I know of. His present passion? Long Haul Trucker with 26 wheels. I have no problem getting the bars high enough on my bikes with threadless stems. Now, the 6 or so above the saddle I occasionally put the bars on my Hillborne? Nope. But two or three inches above, not a problem. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: 'til death do us partor some other bike catches my eye On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 4:49:33 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: I always purchase lifetime bikes. Problem is, I always sell them for different lifetime bikes ;) On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 3:53:04 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: Leaving the steerer long isn't even a trick... Simply do nothing, and it magically stays long! I have and love bikes with quill stems and with threadless stems. I've had my Bontrager (threadless) for almost 14 years, so it's looking like a Buy It For Life bike. And the fork may well be almost as irreplaceable as Steve's Longstaff fork. Stem adjustment is something I almost never do on most of my bikes. My quill bikes, never, my newer threadless bike every few months as I dial different elements. Bearing preload seems easy, once you learn to use your body weight, and which thing (stem or star nut) to tighten first. Maybe I'm missing some secret difficulty? Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Multiple thanks to the folks at Rivendell
A couple of weeks ago, put in two orders. Both arrived extremely well packed. Now, Jenny is always great about making the best use of space, but this time outdid herself. Best example, putting a couple pair of brake pads inside the bandana and then securing with an Irish strap. Beautiful use of space. Then on Friday have a big smack myself in the forehead moment - I forgot to ask for the Sam Hillborne catalog. E-mailed Miesha and asked her about the catalog and let her know I'd put together another order just to get the catalog. No worries is her reply. Yesterday a catalog shows up in my mailbox. Joy! So thanks everyone at Rivendell, but especially Jenny and Miesha for making me feel very valued as a customer. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] suggestions for a bike computer?
Wasn't speaking of generator lights. Specifically battery lights. Mainly lights that can and/or do flash. It happened with a Niterider Mako that has a constant flashing red side light and also with a Cateye light that was set to flashing. Have also discovered a number of areas in the Twin Cities where there is outside interference that causes problems with the sensor. Other folks use wireless, so it is obviously not an issue for all. As to battery strength, hard to say for certain. Neither of the wireless units I tried lasted more than a couple of months. It is possible the battery was weak by the second month. Unsure of actual reliability of wireless computer batteries. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA benzouy...@gmail.com wrote: I read a lot about interfere with wireless cyclocomputers from generator lights but I don't see it. Granted, I only use two wireless systems now (Cateye and the optional Garmin Speed/Cadence sensor) but across all my bikes with generator hubs (Schmidt, SP Shimano), I've never had an interference issue. What I have observed is that my cyclocomputers occasionally go out but those instances are correlated with areas I ride through rather than proximity my dynamo hubs. Have those who have interference use Cateye with verified-good batteries? On Monday, September 15, 2014 8:35:29 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: I'm a wired Cateye person. Velo 8 and Velo 9 on two bikes, The Same Hillborne has an older model. Why wired? Am used to them. Don't have to worry if adding a battery light to the bike. And when I tried a a couple of wireless models had issues with them. Mainly unreliable readings due to other apparent transmitters near where I was riding. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com wrote: I picked up a wireless unit at Performance Bike recently for 19.99. Axiom brand. It seems to do it's duties well, can't say i have any complaints about it. Good value for the money. On Sep 14, 2014 11:22 PM, Neil neil.h...@gmail.com wrote: Despite historical resistance to the idea, I am contemplating a bike computer for my Sam, the better with which to follow cue sheets and the like. Any suggestions from the Bunch? I suppose I would prefer wireless, and a small, modest screen. Cheers, Neil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] suggestions for a bike computer?
I'm a wired Cateye person. Velo 8 and Velo 9 on two bikes, The Same Hillborne has an older model. Why wired? Am used to them. Don't have to worry if adding a battery light to the bike. And when I tried a a couple of wireless models had issues with them. Mainly unreliable readings due to other apparent transmitters near where I was riding. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I picked up a wireless unit at Performance Bike recently for 19.99. Axiom brand. It seems to do it's duties well, can't say i have any complaints about it. Good value for the money. On Sep 14, 2014 11:22 PM, Neil neil.h.do...@gmail.com wrote: Despite historical resistance to the idea, I am contemplating a bike computer for my Sam, the better with which to follow cue sheets and the like. Any suggestions from the Bunch? I suppose I would prefer wireless, and a small, modest screen. Cheers, Neil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More details about the medium Sackville saddle bag
I don't notice it with my medium Sackville. However, I do use a small leather strap to secure it lightly to the rear rack. Just so it won't shift as much. Will also agree that the straps are less than perfect in colder weather. But as my other bags all have leather straps and buckles, the Sackville might be the the easiest to load and unload. Regular Carradice leather straps and buckles are seriously sub-optimal in cold weather (i.e. below +20F). Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 5:51 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Do you cats get a lot of tail wagging with those Sackvilles saddle bags? They stick out so far to the rear. The Carradices tend to sit with the load closer to seatpost. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears
Seems to me discussion on this bike has come up a couple of times on the list. While the bike looks big, am pretty sure it's the 26 wheels contributing. My Surly LHT has a 58cm frame and 26 wheels and looks similar. Also will agree with the general price suggestion by Cyclotourist. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote: Frame was probably $1300 new. Actually, cyclotourist's estimate might not be totally out-of-line. That was a top-quality frame, and I don't think there are thousands of A/R's around. They were a small-batch production frame Now when you start getting into the customs built by JS or CG with the JB paint job, things can add up in a hurry On Monday, September 1, 2014 3:21:14 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: Hey y'all, Maybe you can clue me in. But how does a bike maintain such a high value when it is used and 19 years old? I'm not saying its not worth it, because I don't really know the value of these things. I know its a Waterford Rivendell, so its top quality. But it is used and 19 years old. And no one knows how old the components are and what the bike has been through. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally
Jim know, but I'm voting yes. But only on Saturday. May be heading out of town on Sunday. Am hoping to make at least part of this. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not able to go, although I wish I could, so maybe my opinion should be discounted, but I say YES on the fatbike demo. Fatbikes and 29+ bikes seem Rivvish to me. It seems like fatbikes are practical, simple and no-nonsense for the kinds of riding they're for, in a Rivvish practical no-nonsense way. On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Been chatting with some friends, and I think it might be fun to have a fatbike demo on one of the days. Fat bikes have nothing to do with Rivendell, but they are about as country as bikes get. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Redemption
And I'll always take a different approach. Buy the most expensive tool you can afford to lose and/or break without dire consequences. If one of my present guitars were to be destroyed, I'd feel bad, but move on. However, if I had, say, a 1950's or earlier Martin D that was destroyed, well, so would I. Because in that case, I don't see it as owning an instrument. Then it's something I'm taking care of until the next generation. But that's me. Who just got back from a festival where for the first time was a performer instead of just sitting out in the woods jamming with friends. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: This fits with my longstanding philosophy: buy the best tools you can afford. Tools include art materials, musical instruments, pots and pans. Bicycles. Actual tools. Espresso machines. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Redemption
Philip and Ron - thanks. It was fun. But to the point, you are correct, Philip that best doesn't always mean most expensive. However, in guitars, especially acoustic, there is often a direct correlation. For me, it's also that way with bikes. Rivendell bikes are probably as expensive as I'll ever ride. Love looking at custom bikes, but have never had much of an itch to order one. Ron - that's a great story. Totally jealous. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations on the performance! That's cool. Semantic nit: I did say best, not most expensive. A tool you can't use isn't really a tool anymore, right? Maybe it's a collectible, or an artifact, but it seems more like a burden. I'm not going to live my life in fear of losing something good, but I don't buy interesting cars anymore, either. I know I'm a bad steward of automobiles, and won't budget to take care of them. Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, August 11, 2014 3:54:43 AM UTC-7, EricP wrote: And I'll always take a different approach. Buy the most expensive tool you can afford to lose and/or break without dire consequences. If one of my present guitars were to be destroyed, I'd feel bad, but move on. However, if I had, say, a 1950's or earlier Martin D that was destroyed, well, so would I. Because in that case, I don't see it as owning an instrument. Then it's something I'm taking care of until the next generation. But that's me. Who just got back from a festival where for the first time was a performer instead of just sitting out in the woods jamming with friends. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Philip Williamson philip.w...@gmail.com wrote: This fits with my longstanding philosophy: buy the best tools you can afford. Tools include art materials, musical instruments, pots and pans. Bicycles. Actual tools. Espresso machines. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Do you ride your drop bars above, at, or below saddle height on your Rivbikes?
Quite a bit above. Haven't measured, but on three bikes would guess the bars are between 4-7cm higher than the saddle. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote: Just above On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:04 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious how everyone here rides. There is no right or wrong way, of course - just whatever is comfortable! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Somewhat OT: Advice about basic Kindle versus Kindle Fire
The basic is nice, but spring for the Paperwhite if you end up buying. Makes it easier to read at night. Both on tour or just sitting around the house. I've seen enough of them to appreciate the improvement. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: Paperwhite is pretty good. And it lasts for a while on a charge. Nice to bring along on a tour and not worry about charging it. cc On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, Chris Lampe, Cecily: thanks for the further information. Since Chris Murray so generously offered me the Fire, I'll give that a try first -- $0 is a great incentive -- and, if it does not work out, it will go up for grabs (free) on this list and I will buy a Kindle -- not sure if it would be a Basic or a Paperwhite, though. Patrick Moore, who just made it back from Colorado Springs to Rio Rancho, NM in 4H 55M in a POS rented Chevy Impala and wants very much to take a bike ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Somewhat OT: Advice about basic Kindle versus Kindle Fire
I have both an early Kindle and a Fire. For book reading, another one of the chorus of it's great. Especially in the sun. For anything else, not so much. It can be used to get books off Gutenberg or any of the other free book sites. They format does not always stay the same, but it does work. The Fire is basically a small tablet like an iPad or other such device. And that is how I use mine. Except I read books on it, which I don't do with a laptop or desktop. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Chris: I am weeping with gratitude and servile acceptance, and will respond offlist, but I wanted to tell the list publicly that I am quite honestly amazed at your offer, and say publicly Thanks very much! On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Christopher Murray chrispmurra...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, I have the original Kindle Fire you can have if you would like it. Gratis! You could at least try it out and see what you want in such a device and then pass it on or something. Let me know if you are interested and I'll send it. Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne
The original green Hillborne had a longer top tube. Even though I should have purchased a 60, based on the TT length, went with a 56. My present 60cm Hillborne works fine with a Dirtdrop stem and Noodles. At least for my preference for being pretty upright while riding. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I don't want to confuse the discussion about the Samuel Hillborne, the 56cm Samuel Hillborne in particular, but here goes. Not every 56cm Samuel Hillborne has a 59cm TT. Patrick Moore's prototype Waterford Hillborne undoubtedly did, and the Geo charts still say that it does, but my Orange 56cm Hillborne does not. Mine has a 57.5cm top tube. At the time (December 2009) I was a little freaked out at the thought of a 59cm Top Tube. Keven told me that it had been changed to 57.5cm. I measured on my new frame when I bought it and confirmed that's what it was (57.5cm). I have no idea how many 56cm Hillbornes have a 59cm top tube like Patrick Moore's had, and how many have a 57.5cm top tube like mine. All I know for sure is that at least one was 59cm (Patrick's) and at least one is 57.5 cm (mine). If the OP ends up buying a new Sam Hillborne, then he'll need to start over comparing a 55cm and a 58cm Hillborne, with their associated geonumbers. If the OP buys a used 56, it may be useful to find out which TT length he is getting. As Patrick correctly pointed out, it matters (although nobody said it didn't), and as Grant correctly pointed out, it's not the only thing that matters or even the most important thing. On Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:23:36 AM UTC-7, grant wrote: It must be true that you ended up with too bigga bike. I don't remember the particulars and I'm sorry if the bike didn't work out. I may have misunderstood some answers to questions or maybe didn't ask the questions (the ones that steer me toward a recommendation) as clearly as I should've. I may have goofed, but I didn't actively and knowingly sell you a bike that didn't fit. I'm not saying it happened without me, just that even back then I was as conscientious (concerned about fit) as I am now. But...sorry. The Long Low happened like15 or more years ago, and to this day the length of a top tube remains easily misunderstandable. Of course it isn't an isolated number. A 59cm top tube on one bike can feel short, and on another bike, long...depending on Seat tube angle, even bb drop, stem exit point and how that compares to seat tube length, and more obviously, to handlebar shape. On a bike like a LongLow that is meant to accept useful tires and fenders, the front-center dimension is another tie-in to the frame geometry...but this is getting kind of deep detailed defensive for what was supposed to be a quick apology with an acceptable amount of personal defense! Anyway, sorry best, G On Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:28:36 AM UTC-7, Charlie wrote: I AGREE !!! Grant sold me a Long Low 58 with a very long top tube = NO standover clerance way too long top tube (could have turned the stem around backward to fit right). NOW it is with a new happy owner. Charlie On Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:59:52 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: A dissenting opinion: I had a 56 and found the 59 cm top tube too long. If you have a preferred bar and a preferred bar position with respect to the saddle, there are limits to adjusting reach by adjusting the stem -- I could not get the Sam's Noodle close enough to the saddle with a normal stem, even with the Sam's relaxed seat tube angle. I could have used a 5 or 6 cm extension, except that would put too little weight on the front wheel. I ended up with the bar too high for my liking -- some 5-6 cm above the saddle, when even for a country' bike I prefer it no more than 2 cm above saddle. Top tube length matters! I personally would very definitely test ride one if you can, though if you don't mind very high bars, you have less need to worry about top tube length. Me, I like my bars where I like them -- it's not a variable but a given. The Sam would be an excellent candidate for upright bars, though. On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 9:35 AM, lungimsam john1...@gmail.com wrote: Most people seem happy with the Rivendell method of sizing for their bikes. *If this is your first bike*, just go with their sizing. You can always use a shorter or longer stem, and rotate the brake levers little more forward or back on the handlebars (if using drops) to try to buy the centimeters you need to get the reach comfortable for you. If using other bars, then it is even easier to fit for reach because you are talking huge sweep back and rise like on the Albas and Bosco bars. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle
Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally
Considering Jim Thill does not presently own a Rivendell, I think you'll be just fine. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Kevin M kpmulc...@gmail.com wrote: Would I be the only guy on a non-Riv country bike? I'm assuming this is a family friendly type of thing if the wife and little one tagged along? Kevin in Chicago -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Cover of Bicycle Times Magazine
Not that it has any bearing on this - but pretty sure present Word will read Wordperfect back to 5.0. Maybe even 3.2. We need to bring up documents that old from time to time. To step into this - am also dropping my BQ subscription. But not because of lack of electronic version. Because my interest in cycling has evolved and no longer really has an intersection with what the magazine represents. And Bicycle Times now more closely resembles what I'm intrested in. For full disclosure, I've also dropped my subscription to Dirt Rag. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: I still have a box that can read zips and Connor tape drives. I'm not proud of that... i had one until last year when I bought cloud storage. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Advice: crank arms less than 165mm
Will second that choice. Mark is a good guy. Bias alert - I know Mark and consider him a friend. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:33 PM, 'Jason Cloutier' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Contact Mark Stonich, Bikesmith Design and Fabrication in Minneapolis, MN. at http://www.bikesmithdesign.com. He modifies cranks to 85mm to 160mm lengths. His main clients are recumbent riders, but these cranks will also work for upright bicycles. Here's an information page about short cranks. http://bikesmithdesign.com/Short_Cranks/crank-questions.html I'm sure that with Mark's experience he can recommend something suitable for your wife. Jason Cloutier Pawtucket, RI On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 2:47:43 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote: My wife who is 5'3 with a PBH of 74 develops knee pain during rides longer than 10 miles. As she has been easing into cycling over the last year, she rides exclusively in her small chainring (24) on her Sugino XD2 triple 46-36-24 with 165mm crankarms. The pain is in front in her kneecaps. I am going to be raising her seat slightly and pushing her saddle slightly back to see if that helps. I am also considering shorter crank arms given her relatively short legs compared to torso. Does anyone have experiences with shorter crank arms, especially folks in my wife's height range? Also thoughts on good crank sets with shorter crank arms? I was thinking of trying 155mm crank arms if adjusting seat height didn't alleviate the issue. Can I put non-Sugino crank arms on a Xd2? Thanks for any insights, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur
For me, it was to make the Hillborne different from my other bikes. Also, it was what was on my Surly Cross Check when I stripped it of parts to build up the Hillborne. For winter in Minnesota, not having a front derailleur is an advantage. Even with full coverage fenders, that area gets caked with mud/slush/snow. One less thing to stop working. Eventually, would like to spend the money for a 1x10 setup with a 42t in the rear. But that may end up being purchased for my Surly Ogre. Lastly, it was laziness. One less derailleur and shifter to install and adjust when building the bike. Not a huge thing, but a thing anyway. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: But I seem to be hearing of more people trying to get along *without* a front derailleur as if it's like giving up gluten or dairy (simply because they're hearing from others there may be benefit to it). Is this more fashion than function? out https://groups.google.com/d/optout. I am interested in the concept but I don't think it's fully baked at this point in time if people are having the chain jump off when they are using the gears at the edge of the cassettes. I'd also like to use SRAM's setup with the big 42 bailout gear in the back if I were to have no shifting in the front. Heck, I'm running a triple now on all my bikes though, I think going to a wide range double would probably be something I would want to try first before going to a wide-er single. With my triple I tend to shift multiple gears on the back cluster pretty often, making me think that I could easily handle a wider range casette in the back, and also only two ranges in the front. But cranksets aren't free, so for now I am sticking with what I've got as it works well enough. Only real problem is that the Riv tends to either toss the chain off the top or the bottom, no matter what I do. It's done this with 4 different cranksets and many, many chains. I think maybe it's a function of the geometry of my extremely large bike, seat tube 69cm C-T and TT 64CM. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur
Over the past two years have had occasional chain drop on my 1x9 Hillborne. Usually over a hard bump. Figure with the 12-36 in back and a long cage derailleur, it's more likely to happen. Chain is probably too long, but am too lazy to fix it. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I've run 1XNs with no throwing, but on road bikes with tight clusters where most riding is in the middle cogs. A quick search for chain retention calls up these, among others: http://www.ecovelo.info/category/product-reviews/page/3/ (scroll down). Home brew: http://forums.mtbr.com/drivetrain-shifters-derailleurs-cranks/1x9-conversion-w-coin-retention-device-406026.html . This one looks designed for brazed on fd mounts: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ethirteen-xcx-st-direct-mount-chain-retention-top-guide/ , Me, I had problems with the Fargo's chain falling off onto the bb shell when shifting from the middle to the granny; I installed a Jump Stop: http://n-gear.com/whatis.html. Mine is (still, I suppose; I forgot about it when I switched from a 46/36/24 to a 38/24) attached near the granny; not sure if it can be adjusted outward and upward to protect a middle ring. On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Garth, Really interesting points! I do need to look on the middle ring 'T clearance'. The frame I'm working with is the Saluki for this question though not the XO3. I've had 4 occurrences over 2 days of the chain coming off the 36T middle; 1. Came off entirely, onto the BB shell 2-3. 'downshifted' to the 24T ring 4. 'upshifted' to the 46T ring Honestly I don't remember alot of specifics but I was near the high or low rear cog in each of the instances and very often there was some kind of bump or sharp acceleration accompanying the issue. As for trimming the FD, its not a constant thing. Only when I move the rear chain line 3+ cog's usually... so not a terrible burden but definitely something I notice a couple times a ride. The lack of the FD has me shifting more boldly through 2-3 rear cogs at a time without having to think about adjusting my FD trim. This also might be something with the bar ends on drop bars, I'm not used to haveing to work both shifters simultaneously or near simultaneously in that handlebar setup whereas on the alba's or M-bars it was second nature. Tony On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: I for one do see benefits to a FD. If you are trimming the FD often, it's either not setup correctly or the crankset is inherently wobbly, as in imperfect laterally . I own 5 Sugino's at the moment and they are all over in that regard. Using 2 or more rings, you can usually get the best chainline as opposed to one ring stretching out over 8 or 9 gears. I use 7 sp. FW and do use all 7 cogs with the 36t middle ring, but even then the 1 and 7 cog are a bit of stretch really. Not optimal but it does the job. 8 speeds surely don't make that any less of stretch. What cogs are you getting the chain slipping off your 36t ring Tony ? I've never had a chainring drop a chain that was not involved in moving im moving it up or down to another ring. That's a curious issue ! And before you consider a 40t middle ring, just make sure it will clear the stays first ! I don't know the XO3 frame, but my Bomba and I suppose a Hunqa frame you are limited to a 36t middle unless you get a wider BB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/iPz54h9hT7s/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you
Re: [RBW] Re: synergy rims (again?)
Had a Salsa Delgado rim crack like that last year. Had been on for about 3 years. My weight and riding style is more to blame than anything when stuff like that happens. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote: I guess I'll keep an eye on my eyelets. I recently built up a Synergy 650b OC rear rim. Twice, actually; I dented the first rim on a huge pavement crack within the first week. That was totally my fault. I'm 220# and I ride these wheels on gravel and commuting, in addition to road touring. I went with the OC rim because it made for a strong, nearly dishless wheel with the Phil FW hub. Tim On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:25 AM, MobileBill zeusande...@gmail.com wrote: Scott They should have been built up after the rim improvement measures. But I'm not sure what the likelihood is that you'll experience these problems... I had a good conversation with Velocity, and they are bending over backwards to make things right. As annoying as this has been for me, I feel bad for them -- I think they generally make good products and they've really made an effort to build rims suitable for Rivendell-style riding. As they note, there are a lot of OC rims out there that they haven't heard complaints about. Maybe those riders don't ride as much, or don't notice, or genuinely aren't having a problem. But for some of us, for reasons I'm not smart enough to figure out, these Synergy OCs have been an issue. In my case, it's not excess weight or ill-suited tires. Maybe it's something about the design coupled with our road conditions or climate or ... I did confirm that they have discontinued the OC version of the Synergy. Since some asked, I am attaching a photo of one the typical cracks here. I am told that this kind of cracking can occur on rims by various makers, so it may be wise to look for this regardless of who made the rim. At this stage, I'm guessing the rim is still ridable if incredibly noisy, but I am told it can eventually spread around the rim and virtually split the rim in two. I'm hoping most of us would notice well before that happens ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.
Congrats! Knowing through friends how tough that course is, I'm extremely impressed. Glad to know the Atlantis is perfect for that type of riding. Did one (Westside Dirty Benjamin) on a Fargo with 2.1 inch tires and my hands were numb for days. Am totally in awe of your accomplishments. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Living in MD, it is hard to imagine riding on 100 miles of gravel road/trail. I just don't know of anything like that around here. That looks like some fun and beautiful scenery to ride through. Congrats on the great accomplishment! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Hammocking!
Ah, thanks. Haven't been that direction in a while. That's why it didn't take immediately. FWIW, that's the area where Emma Bull was inspired to write War for the Oaks. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Eunice Chang sleepyn...@gmail.com wrote: Hennessy Hammock, where have you been all my life? Thank you for pointing me in the right direction! -E. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: Eric, it's the south bank of Minnehaha Creek at maybe ... somewhere west of Lyndale. Yes, the Hennessy hammock! We'll have 'skeets soon enough, believe me! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Hammocking!
Nice. Totally jealous. Thinking I need to do a variant of that soon. Where was that if I may ask? Can't particularly place the site. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: *yawn* that looks cozy On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:58:38 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: Maybe some day I'll even figure out how to properly attach an image to my post without it being sideways, washed out color, or too big a file (the too big a file is what gets me doing some unsuccessful work-around) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Another data point - my Surly LHT has 559x50 Kojak tires. They are smooth, but nowhere near as nice as the Compass Barlow Pass tires. In the past week put about 150 miltes total on the Kojak tires and by the end of the week, I was feeling the miles in my legs. In fact, am now considering buying the Compass 26 tires for this bike. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Joe. As of this moment, the Kojaks are the standard to beat. There are 559X28 (1 1/8) tires available that might be better running, but that extra 4 mm is worth a bit of flat-resistant drag. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: My mistake, Patrick. The PT (seems to stand for protex) is in the T-Serv line, not the Pasela, but the tread looks identical. I had the 26x1.25 slotted in as a replacement for the XO-1 in the family, once the current set of Avocets finally wear out. I don't have any experience with them yet, but 240g sounds promising. http://www.panaracer.com/urban.php The Kojak sounds like a winner, though, and Schwalbes seem to be worth the price. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Joe: I can't find anything online about the PT model; the only information that I am confident is up to date is about the TG version. Can you point me to a site? I put several thousand miles on the non TG 559X 32 Paselas and they were fine for the price, but I don't recall finding them as nice as the similar Kojak: 1. They seemed much more sensitive to pressure: a much finer line between harsh and saggy. 2. They were indeed flat prone, but that can be cured by Stan's. OTOH, the Kojak is quite flat resistant while rolling at least as nicely as the Pasela. 3. The sidewalls were fragile; so was the tread, come to think of it: I put 1,200 miles on a rear once in 30 feet when my Bagman QR suddenly quick-released at speed, flipping the Nelson back onto the rear tire and locking it. The skid took off all of the tread in a 1.5 long section. OTOH again, they rolled well when inflated right and the price is certainly good (though I just saw them online at $36 and change). On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have you had a local shop confirm they're discontinued? I just googled pasela 26x1.25 wire and saw lots of stock of the non-TGs, but maybe that's the end of them. If so, the new PT models look promising. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: From what I can google, Pasela no longer makes the 559X1.25 except in a Tourguard model. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick, Have plain Paselas proven too flat prone for you? Based on BQ's testing, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the humble Pasela in performance even at 2-3x the price. They haven't tested the Kojak, but the very similar Marathon Racer was slightly slower. Where I ride (no goatheads!), the plain Pasela's been just as flat resistant as the Tourguard. I've gotten 1 flat about every 600 miles with 700x32s. There's also the new T-serv PT from Panaracer that saves some weight (kevlar bead) and has a new flat protection layer. Best, joe broach portland, or On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for a high capacity canvas banana bag
The Echo Trail is about the same size as the old Bannana bag from different makers. I've seen that bag. Have not seen the Caribou Trail, but it appears to be the same size as the old Baggins Little Joe bag. I have one of those and they might fit everything on that list, but it would be close, and only if the wool top were thin. The Carradice Junior appears to be the same size. I can stuff more in my Duluth Pack badged Little Joe because of the extended straps. And for handlebar bags, the Frost River bag is definitely smaller than the Brand V handlebar bag. I have both. Know they aren't under discussion, but wanted to point that out in case folks are looking at the Frost River site. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Carradice Junior, thank you very much. The Camper is far, far, FAR too big. I'd be using the Junior on my Fargo yet did it not scrap the tire when heavily loaded. If OP has a 66 cm QB (did I get that right?) he'll no' have that problem. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 05/18/2014 07:11 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: I have the Baggins bag that is similar to the Frost River Echo Trail. There is absolutely no way you could fit a sun hat, a wool hat, wool socks, a windbreaker, a shade shirt, a bottle of butter and a wool top layer in that bag unless those items were sized for a Barbie doll. That sounds like a job for the Carradice Camper! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Losing Bike weight vs. Rider weight. Which one more effectively makes you go faster?
I'm in Tony's camp, both with personal and bike weight. One thing I've noticed does make a difference is tires. Have now had a second, longer ride on the Compass Barlow Pass tires and have noticed that I am faster on my Hillborne with those tires. But that is me. Have a friend who is very light, rode a Surly LHT with heavy duty wheels and tires. He was able to go significantly faster than me on any ride we would do together. Except for long downhills. So engine probably makes the bigger difference. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote: As a 250 lb guy riding mostly 30ish pound bikes (+commuting load) I don't get to wrapped up about weight... But I am always intrigued when I heft a light weight bike. Thing is you'll never be able to do side by side testing of a +/-25 lbs 'engine' but it's easy to try a +/-10lb bike/equipment. Reducing the engine weight has to be the most effective and satisfying long term but every time I've hopped on a much lighter bike it has made a big impression on me from a ride perspective. (How long that sub 18lbs carbon bike would actually last under my weight is another thing entirely!) Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis as touring bike: best choice?
Having owned a (too small) Atlantis a number of years ago and having a LHT for the past few years, the Atlantis has a better ride feel. Especially unloaded. The Trucker Deluxe (great suggestion) or the 26 wheel LHT would be my choice. Of course, I like the idea of a larger frame with 26 tires. Running 2 tires on the LHT gives a very comfortable feel on the road. Especially when the bike is loaded. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: What is the wait time on the Hilsen? It was a while back but I recall GP posting Riv had a surplus of larger 650B frames. The 700C is obviously a good choice as well. On Sunday, May 11, 2014 4:56:17 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: I know that the Atlantis is R's most popular model (I think it is anyway) and I know many listmembers use them for touring. I asked this question on the iBoblist and got many responses, but perhaps asking it here in a more focused fashion will raise more guiding advice about the choice as loaded touring bike of the Atlantis in particular. I have a client who is a surgeon (ie, he can afford what he wants) who wants to do some loaded touring. We got to talking and I quickly recommended the Atlantis, and he was very interested. I got an email from him yesterday; apparently he had called Rivendell to ask for their catalogue and discovered that there is a 5 month waiting list for the Atlantis. My question to yawl is: considering other possibilities from the LHT to a custom Bruce Gordon, is the Atlantis, *as touring bike*, special enough to warrant a wait? Or would you advise other choices? He presently has a Trek 1420 that is about 15 years old; don't know anything about that model. What about a Hunquapillar? -- too beefy/off road built? Sam Hillborne? Me, having owned a Sam Hill and now owning a Ram with clearance for 35 mm Kojaks and fenders, I'd probably opt for the Ram for touring, flex be damned. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Compass Barlow Pass tires
A pair of these tires have found their way onto my Sam Hillborne. Realize they will stretch some, but at first glance, they looked a lot skinnier than the Baby Big Bens that were on the bike. Due to recent bad weather, only was able to get about 9 miles in on the tires today. My first impressions are - WOW. I like. Seemed to me the ride went faster than usual. My time was definitely quicker than my average this year. Thre ride is also very smooth. Am very much a convert to these tires. Yes, some of this is probably due to wanting the tires to work well. Still and all, am hoping to keep these on the bike this year and just enjoy the ride. Picture of bike as currently set up - https://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/14168168173/ Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
Each bike has either a muti-tool or a Park WTK-1 kit. Then in the handlebar bag is usually a Park MT-1. Try to also have a small Swiss Army knife on each bike. Had been carrying 1 tube per bike, but after a recent spate of flats, may go up to two. Also, all the kits have a chain tool of some sort. Have twice helped folks with busted/twisted chains to get back on the road. Yes, I'm way over-prepared. For 99 percent of my riding could get by with the MT-1 and a tire lever. Still prefer the mental safety net of the extra tools. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: I have a tool set for each of my bikes inspired by Tool Kit B: http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-003/000.html One of my kits has a Ritchey CPR 14 as shown, the rest have the smaller CPR 9. They fit into an Altoids-type can very well. In addition to the tools shown, I have a tiny Swiss Army folding pliers thingy in one tool kit and in another I carry a small jackknife that was my Dad's. There is a surprising amount of stuff that can be put into an Altoids can. FWIW Tool Kit A is Jobst Brandt's. I have several Cool Tools that I have picked up over the years and would be my tool of choice when touring. It's a pretty complete package that can do most things that need to be done on the road with a bike. One of the comments on the Pardo site is very important: the best bike tool is preventive maintenance- periodically inspect the bike for things that are wearing out or breaking. The best bike part failure is the one that doesn't happen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Smoking might be good for you
Thanks, Hugh. Didn't see this earlier today. Eric Platt On Apr 25, 2014 12:27 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Road-Valor-Cyclist-Inspired-Nation/dp/030759064X I have it if you'd like to read it. I can mail it to you. ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 2:46 PM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: Eric: Who is the author of Road to Valor? George Strickler New Orleans, La. On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:40:54 PM UTC-5, EricP wrote: Made me smile, too. BTW, it reminds me that the book Road to Valor is a nice biography of Bartali. Not sure if all allegations are true, but if so, he really was a hero in more than just racing. Pretty sure this book was talke about on this list when it came out. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:52 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: Tom, Thank you for bringing a smile to my face. The great Gino Bartali smoked too and won two tours 10 years apart. On some level they must have known it wasn't beneficial to their riding? Or maybe not. ~Hugh On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 3:33:36 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: and maybe not https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10202183233317395 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/wdouYE4j7sQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Smoking might be good for you
Made me smile, too. BTW, it reminds me that the book Road to Valor is a nice biography of Bartali. Not sure if all allegations are true, but if so, he really was a hero in more than just racing. Pretty sure this book was talke about on this list when it came out. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:52 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Tom, Thank you for bringing a smile to my face. The great Gino Bartali smoked too and won two tours 10 years apart. On some level they must have known it wasn't beneficial to their riding? Or maybe not. ~Hugh On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 3:33:36 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: and maybe not https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10202183233317395 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos
Anne, Not saying it doesn't work. Just saying I personally can see a flicker in the light at those speeds. Just thinking about Patrick and wondering if that would cause balance issues. Also it is possible (probable?) the newer lights have a better capacitor and don't flicker as much. That's why I mentioned the Cyo, which is on all my bikes at present. Have also used the Lyt and it does the same thing. Granted, both are cheaper lights by BM. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: My dynamo works at speeds a lot lower than 5-6 mph. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.comwrote: One thing to think about with dynamo hubs. At really slow speeds climbing, the light can start to flicker. I have it happen on my bikes around 5 to 6 mph. Not sure how much the latest lights do this, but it happens with the Cyo on three different bikes. As to a 29er + I'd wait. Right now, I don't see a large enough tire selection to be worth it for me. With something like a Surly Ogre, that will take any 29er tire up to about 2.4 or so (I think 2.7 in the front.) BTW, after riding my Ogre with 2.25 tires, and getting on the Hillborne with 38s, it almost seems like the 38s are too skinny for me to ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.comwrote: I asked the question about a 29er+ and the answer wasn't no. The answer was more like If you reach the point of being serious about this, we'll talk. I wasn't talking with Grant though. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:44:34 PM UTC-6, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Custom Riv fat bike??? Could it be done?!? On 4/17/14, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: I know what I'm about to write is sacrilege but Deacon it seems that the rig for your needs may be a bike with disc brakes and fat tires. There are many choices these days and they can all be Riv'd out. I think your Hung can and does do much of what you want and with class but it just seems that based on your somewhat extreme climate and needs it might make sense. I know that you were/ are concerned with too much bounce from fat tires. I have only very limited time on a couple of fat bikes and they didn't seem that bouncy. If others have more experience with fat bikes chime in. Also I think you could pick a day and visit a local bike store in say Colorado Springs and test ride some. My 2 cents worth and then some. ~H On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:57:16 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: At some point in the future I will likely need to beef up my front rim to an Atlas to match my rear rim. At such point replacing the front hub with a dynamo/drum brake combo hub is something I am toying with, especially as I've found more area dirt roads to ride and nighttime rides would open up some things. My questions are as follows: Drum brakes: -- Why are drum brakes not used much? -- How practical are they for rugged, steep single track? -- It seems they would address the snow/mud/muck loss of braking issues I sometimes experience. Is this true? -- Does my frame need anything special, or will they simply go on? Dynamo: -- How hearty are they (and the accompanying lights) on rugged single track? Will they hold up or be fussy? Thanks! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received
Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos
SON hub on two bikes. Shimano 71 series on the other. All three lights are Lumotec IQ Cyo models. One with the senso function, the other two with just on and off. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm using a SON dynamo, and and older light. I don't remember which light it is, but it's five or six years old. Trying to figure out what light to install on my new bike. It has to be something that clamps on the bars. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 5:55 AM, David Banzer daban...@gmail.com wrote: Eric and Anne. What dynamo hubs are you using with which specific lights (a few Cyo models now)? Might help to have that information. David Chicago On Friday, April 18, 2014 5:56:19 AM UTC-5, EricP wrote: Anne, Not saying it doesn't work. Just saying I personally can see a flicker in the light at those speeds. Just thinking about Patrick and wondering if that would cause balance issues. Also it is possible (probable?) the newer lights have a better capacitor and don't flicker as much. That's why I mentioned the Cyo, which is on all my bikes at present. Have also used the Lyt and it does the same thing. Granted, both are cheaper lights by BM. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comwrote: My dynamo works at speeds a lot lower than 5-6 mph. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Eric Platt eperic...@gmail.comwrote: One thing to think about with dynamo hubs. At really slow speeds climbing, the light can start to flicker. I have it happen on my bikes around 5 to 6 mph. Not sure how much the latest lights do this, but it happens with the Cyo on three different bikes. As to a 29er + I'd wait. Right now, I don't see a large enough tire selection to be worth it for me. With something like a Surly Ogre, that will take any 29er tire up to about 2.4 or so (I think 2.7 in the front.) BTW, after riding my Ogre with 2.25 tires, and getting on the Hillborne with 38s, it almost seems like the 38s are too skinny for me to ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote: I asked the question about a 29er+ and the answer wasn't no. The answer was more like If you reach the point of being serious about this, we'll talk. I wasn't talking with Grant though. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:44:34 PM UTC-6, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Custom Riv fat bike??? Could it be done?!? On 4/17/14, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: I know what I'm about to write is sacrilege but Deacon it seems that the rig for your needs may be a bike with disc brakes and fat tires. There are many choices these days and they can all be Riv'd out. I think your Hung can and does do much of what you want and with class but it just seems that based on your somewhat extreme climate and needs it might make sense. I know that you were/ are concerned with too much bounce from fat tires. I have only very limited time on a couple of fat bikes and they didn't seem that bouncy. If others have more experience with fat bikes chime in. Also I think you could pick a day and visit a local bike store in say Colorado Springs and test ride some. My 2 cents worth and then some. ~H On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:57:16 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: At some point in the future I will likely need to beef up my front rim to an Atlas to match my rear rim. At such point replacing the front hub with a dynamo/drum brake combo hub is something I am toying with, especially as I've found more area dirt roads to ride and nighttime rides would open up some things. My questions are as follows: Drum brakes: -- Why are drum brakes not used much? -- How practical are they for rugged, steep single track? -- It seems they would address the snow/mud/muck loss of braking issues I sometimes experience. Is this true? -- Does my frame need anything special, or will they simply go on? Dynamo: -- How hearty are they (and the accompanying lights) on rugged single track? Will they hold up or be fussy? Thanks! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group /rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?
Trail debate? How about Root River Trail system vs. Elroy Sparta? One paved, one not. Unpaved has three good tunnels. Oh, not that type of trail. Never mind. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: My Ram also feels much quicker than my former Sam. I don't know if it's tubing or geometry, but the Sam, nice as it was, wasn't a fast road bike. I daresay that the Roadeo feels faster than the Ram. Regarding Riv versus low trail Rando: one thing that Riv has is a particular handling quality that I, for one, really like. I've not found this on other bikes, at least to the same degree (so much so that, even after 20 years, getting on one of the benchmark Rivs after riding other bikes for a while still surprises me with the difference in turn in and fit). I gather that this turn in quality is incompatible with optimum front load geometry. As to planing or at least bikes that feel faster, for me that is separate from handling, since I've ridden bikes whose handling I didn't particularly like that somehow encouraged me to go faster. I still think that fit and geometry in relation to build, gear choice and pedaling style play a part in this feeling. I at any rate haven't experienced planing in the sense of light tubing and speed -- don't know if the general feeling of a frame being faster counts as planing; the lightest frames I've ridden (at least, I assume that 531C standard gauge is lighter tubing than the Rivs I've owned) haven't felt particularly spritely. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:27 AM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I don't know about the rando bikes since I haven't owned one, but I will say that my Roadeo (ligher tubing) is faster feeling and quicker riding than my Sam Hillborne. But, I can't load up the Roadeo for camping like I can the Hillborne, which is certainly the more versatile bike. I don't know if the Roadeo has oversized tubing but it is a quick feeling bike and livelier than my hillborne, probably because of geometry and tubing differences. Could a rando bike be the end all be all for me? No, I don't think so. I need two, one for camping and one for club riding. I don't ride Rando events and would feel quite limited with just a handlebar bag for when I do go camping/touring, and I feel it may not be quite the best pick for club riding. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos
One thing to think about with dynamo hubs. At really slow speeds climbing, the light can start to flicker. I have it happen on my bikes around 5 to 6 mph. Not sure how much the latest lights do this, but it happens with the Cyo on three different bikes. As to a 29er + I'd wait. Right now, I don't see a large enough tire selection to be worth it for me. With something like a Surly Ogre, that will take any 29er tire up to about 2.4 or so (I think 2.7 in the front.) BTW, after riding my Ogre with 2.25 tires, and getting on the Hillborne with 38s, it almost seems like the 38s are too skinny for me to ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: I asked the question about a 29er+ and the answer wasn't no. The answer was more like If you reach the point of being serious about this, we'll talk. I wasn't talking with Grant though. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:44:34 PM UTC-6, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Custom Riv fat bike??? Could it be done?!? On 4/17/14, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: I know what I'm about to write is sacrilege but Deacon it seems that the rig for your needs may be a bike with disc brakes and fat tires. There are many choices these days and they can all be Riv'd out. I think your Hung can and does do much of what you want and with class but it just seems that based on your somewhat extreme climate and needs it might make sense. I know that you were/ are concerned with too much bounce from fat tires. I have only very limited time on a couple of fat bikes and they didn't seem that bouncy. If others have more experience with fat bikes chime in. Also I think you could pick a day and visit a local bike store in say Colorado Springs and test ride some. My 2 cents worth and then some. ~H On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:57:16 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: At some point in the future I will likely need to beef up my front rim to an Atlas to match my rear rim. At such point replacing the front hub with a dynamo/drum brake combo hub is something I am toying with, especially as I've found more area dirt roads to ride and nighttime rides would open up some things. My questions are as follows: Drum brakes: -- Why are drum brakes not used much? -- How practical are they for rugged, steep single track? -- It seems they would address the snow/mud/muck loss of braking issues I sometimes experience. Is this true? -- Does my frame need anything special, or will they simply go on? Dynamo: -- How hearty are they (and the accompanying lights) on rugged single track? Will they hold up or be fussy? Thanks! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update
Based on Avery's experience decided to put drops on my Sam Hillborne. Also with a Dirt Drop stem. Only had one 30 mile ride on it so far. Definitely is different. Still haven't decided it will stay this way or not. The reach to the bars is still about one inch further than my personal ideal. If my weight wasn't so high right now, it would be easier, of course. Did find my Nitto 115 bars which have a shorter reach, so that helps. And a good chunk of yesterday's ride was into a 25 mph headwind, which kept me on the hoods or in the drops. Will give it a month or two. Current setup here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/13747187905/ Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Brian Campbell bdcampbel...@gmail.comwrote: I am 190 and running my Barlow Pass tires at 65 rear and 60 front. I may try an go a bit lower to see if things get better (they areally nice as is). It is all pretty subjective when it comes to preference. Start somewhere, keep track and experiment. Road surface, conditioning, length of ride, mood, amount of sleep, weather will all play a role/ :0 On Monday, April 7, 2014 10:18:07 PM UTC-4, ted wrote: In my last exchange with Jan he asserted rolling resistance was basically i dependent of tire pressure, baring riding flat tires and very high pressures (or maybe it was ultra high). I don't think he mentioned 15% drop. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Have a 1x9 on my Sam Hillborne and it works fine. But I don't do a lot of off-road or really steep hill climbing so the 39 up front with an 11-36 in back is sufficient. If you went with a 32t up front and an 11-36 in the back you'd probably be good to go. Maybe a 30t up front if you want a really low gear. The best thing about a 1xanything is tire clearance with wide tires. Talking 2.7 inches and wider here. On most bikes the inner chainring and largest cogs can get too close to knobs and sidewalls. One of the many reasons that 1x10 is making such good headway. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: in range, gear inches - you want something under 30 inches and something over 80 inches. Then make sure you don't have any steps over 8-10 inches. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:42:09 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Forgot this: 28.5 38.0 24.0 13.0 83.3 14.0 77.4 15.0 72.2 16.0 67.7 17.0 63.7 18.0 60.2 38.0 20.0 54.2 34.2 23.0 47.1 29.7 27.0 40.1 25.3 I don't find that shifting the 9 speed is any harder than the previous 7; both home made cassettes and Silver shifters. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com wrote: Why not a 1X9 with granny? I use the middle and inner rings on the XD2, with bashguard on the outside. I hardly ever use the 24, but I see no good reason to remove it. On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. here is the gear ration range comparison: In gain ratios: Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be dropping): 1.5 - 6 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36) 1.6 - 4.7 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36) 1.3 - 6 I don't really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here? I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is practical. I'd love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add significantly to the number of hills i'm walking, especially when bikepacking. Perhaps going with a 30 or 32t 1x set up is the way to go? I will no doubt get stronger and the loss may not be a big deal with that. But then it's better to lose gears on the upper range and coast more, and enjoy the ride on the climbs without killing myself. All wisdom deeply appreciated. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Does anyone use fenders off road?
Have always used non-metal fenders on bikes that go on non-paved ramblings. Had a fender fold-up in the back a couple times. Luckily nothing except the fender was damaged. That's me. Others use metal fenders with no problem at all off-road. Have noticed that leather washers at the mounting points do make a difference. My LHT has metal fenders and works fine. Although rarely take that on anything worse than a gravel road.\ Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Nanga Parbat nangapa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello RBW OB, I'm using a late 80's / early 90's Specialized mountain bike with Velo Orange steel fenders, that were on the bike. Even with the leather washers the fenders still rattle on trails. Is anyone using fenders for moderate off roading? Should I try the SKS fenders? Cheers, Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Can i ride in hiking boots?
Not a problem at all. Have ridden in either Red Wing or Merrill boots depending on the weather. The only boots I haven't tried are my Sorrel. No reason they wouldn't work. Just don't often bike in weather that needs that type of boot anymore. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Beauty Shots of the Custom are up!
Wowser! Hope to see it in person sometime this spring/summer. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: That's just..I mean..this rarely happens but... Speechless. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:36:53 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Hi friends, If you haven't seen it already, here they are: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/80720787036/heres-the- story-of-our-latest-custom-bike-for The bike is a treasure. So sure and confident and comfy and beautiful. It will go anywhere and everywhere. For a very long time. I went out on the Saturday Gentlewoman's ride with the local Rivsters. I can't really give a full report, though, because I was too sick with an upper respiratory thang to venture out in the hills with the rest of the gang (thank you Cora for sitting in the shade with me). Any time you borrow a saddlebag to tote Dayquill and a box of Kleenex is just not a good sign. Anyway, the little riding we did on Saturday lets me know that it is a joy to ride and fits like a broken-in pair of wonderful handmade shoes. I managed to get in the shortest of descents on a grassy Riv-style hill and I was in awe of its stability. Like a mountain goat. The paint has to be seen to be believed. JB added pearl to the paint that you can't see until it's in brilliant sun. And then it flickers and dazzles with the most subtle blues and yellows and whites...like you just found a treasure on the beach. Some details: The Select Flyer wasn't just a test saddle; it's the saddle. Paul seatpost, thumbies, and brakes; SON hub, White Industries MI5 rear hub, brown big bens, phil BB, shimano xt derailer. Will add cedar fenders and a nitto mini front rack. And how wonderful to say to my fellow low PBH friends like Manny: Take it for a ride! (Rich Lee, you're next in line!) Once it's set up here in Minneapolis, there'll be more photos and ride reports. Thank you everyone for your knowledge, skill, artistry, support and input. And especially Grant, Mark, Mark, Rich, JB, and Keven. grinning from ear-to-ear, Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tires in the Goldilocks zone (was Grant on tires)
Well, glad to know there are some others out there that aren't overly
pleased with the Marathon Supreme. Have used both the 700x40 and the
26x50 versions. In both sets found the ride to be slow. LIke they are
sticking to the ground. Have always written it off as my excess weight.
Might have to slightly re-think this. But it still is partly due to the
weight, no doubt.
Looking in the garage, it's obvious my go-to tires are more heavy duty.
Mondials, Dureme, and Baby Bens. Want to try some others, but as my
neighbors point out, my garage already looks like a bike shop. Need to
wear out a few sets first. Then again, the new Barlow Pass might be an
excellent fit on the Hillborne.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Jason Leach subfas...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think they will stock the GR is a way to have a better tire. From
a retail perspective it makes sense to try new things, rotate stock, and
offer additional products to compliment existing ones. Rivendell has an
existing business relationship with Soma. To my knowledge RBW has never
sold Gran Bois or Compass tires but they have sold Pari Motos and Soma
650b, in addition to their own 650bx33mm tires. There is precedence to them
stocking a road tire in 650b. It ill be interesting to see what effect
having a mostly roads tire with the same general dimensions and the GB
Hetre will have on the tire preferences of their customers. It has been my
observation that there are a few big reservations to trying more supple
tires (this is patterned on the assumption that RBW customers {in total,
not just the subset that read this group} hold a preference toward strong
tires). My assertion is that the strong GR tire could nudge new people
into trying a very supply tire - one that they may very well like. It may
also move people in the direction of more robust tires options if they
currently prefer the other end of the spectrum. I would imagine that
having a second wheelset equipped with the new Soma GR strong version
would be keen for a bike equipped with Hetres (or Compass Babyshoe Pass)
and fenders.
*I don't mean to infer that supple tires are not strong, some brands are
in fact very well constructed and last for many miles. I opted for the
word strong because it allowed for a positive description of tires with a
reinforced sidewall, all black construction, and thick tread with puncture
prevention considerations.
Jason
SF,CA
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, sameness samen...@gmail.com wrote:
I thought the Big Ben http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/tben.htm was
their favorite tire of all time... obviously the (p)erfect tire... why do
we even sell anything else?
So: Big, nominally knobby, fairly heavy (though not as heavy as they
could be with Kevlar), and/but without as much flat or sidewall protection
as, say... the Marathon.
Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA
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Re: [RBW] New Compass tires?
Starting to look like my Hillborne might try a new set of tires this year. 700x38 is probably the minimum width for me these days. Very, very tempting. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I thought I had enough bikes, but now I'm tempted to build a new bike around a pair of these tires! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Change my chain or ride it til it skips?
My rule is after each winter replace chain. No matter how many/few miles. This year will probably only get about 150 to 200 miles on the bike with this chain. But it will go away by late march. Personally not to the point where the cassette gets replaced after winter with that few miles. Although probably should. Winter in MN means lots of sand/salt/chemicals on the roads. It does a number on chains and chainrings. That's also a reason some folks like steel rings. Slower wear. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:26 AM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: And if you don't do it, eventually your chain, rings, and cassettes will wear and if you get chainsuck at an unfortunate place, you'll crash. So replace the f'n chain. It's $20. :) On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: So is it as easy to do myself as just buying a new 9-speed chain, matching the link count and then snapping together the master link? Any tips? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?
I'll be an outlier. If I were to buy a mountain bike (i.e. a purpose designed bike for mainly single and double track, then it would have front suspension. My hands have been damaged over the years and the only way I could ever do serious mountain biking is with suspension. That said, I now have a Surly Ogre with 2.3 inch wide tires that I am hoping will be more forgiving. Don't plan to ride it on anything rougher than some double track trails, though. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 6:14 PM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: My old mountain bike is a 1996 Specialized Stumpjumper M2 frame with a front suspension fork and 26 wheels...canti brakes. The bike is in pieces now because the suspension fork finally gave up. I rode that bike so much, light, nimble, and just a good time. I would like to get a new fork for it but just haven't thought enough about it. I just haven't been doing enough trail riding to build up a dedicated mountain bike now. I would like to. My ideal mountain bike would be a Rivendell custom mountain mixte with 650b wheels and bombadil/hunqapillar tire clearance. A hunqapillar would work too...and the headbadge is awesome. Something like that will probably be my third Rivendell. I don't think suspension is all that for the riding I do or would do if I got out into the singletrack more. I know plenty of people who tear up the trails using dual suspended bikes and they do ride fastit just isn't for me. I'm now just a little too old to be getting into the kind of crashes I used to get into...too long to heal properly. I'm just a slower rider who likes technical stuff, but likes to do it on my own time. On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 11:48:15 AM UTC-6, David Stein wrote: New to the group. Have a Hunq on order. I've seen a number of threads dancing around this topic (including the recent 'Hunqapillar as a true mountain bike' thread). Wanted to ask the question a different way, how many mountain bikes do you own, what are they, and when do you decide to take which bike out? I just got into mountain biking/trail riding after years of road riding (Bay Area, mostly fire roads for now, some single track). I suck at it. Trying to get better. Salsa El Mariachi with front suspension. My interest is in exploring mostly, not necessarily going fast or racing, but that being said I haven't met a downhill that hasn't resulted in a crash or three (including the demo ride in Shell Ridge I took the Hunq on). When I ordered the Hunq the idea was to use it as an all-rounder (mix of fire roads, light trails, city riding, commuting) and my Salsa El Mariachi 29er to take on more technical terrain and single track. But after another couple more harrowing rides, I decided the Salsa wasn't for me and sold it (I think it was the 29er wheel size that I didn't like, I am short and it wasn't nimble enough, though maybe it was the general geometry of the frame). So now, I'm left with the choice of running the Hunq as my only mountain bike with two sets of wheels (2.1 smart sams on one and 1.75 green guards on another), or using the Salsa money to buy an additional singletrack specific bike with front suspension (and using in conjunction with the Hunq, the ole N+1). Curious to what other people are doing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?
Well, my excuse and it is only that, is moderate to severe carpal tunnel syndrome for the past 30 years. Bad enough that my hands can go numb riding a bike no handed. But granted, suspension is only a crutch. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Your elbows don't bend? Grin. I don't mean to be incredulous here. I genuinely want to understand. I realize the elbow bending requires bending and strength in the wrist. I just know that too often people think they need more cushioning, when in fact they would benefit from less to build strength and flexibility. Not always. Dependis on your specifics. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 6:27:36 PM UTC-7, EricP wrote: I'll be an outlier. If I were to buy a mountain bike (i.e. a purpose designed bike for mainly single and double track, then it would have front suspension. My hands have been damaged over the years and the only way I could ever do serious mountain biking is with suspension. That said, I now have a Surly Ogre with 2.3 inch wide tires that I am hoping will be more forgiving. Don't plan to ride it on anything rougher than some double track trails, though. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Big Boy Pants
Reading what the inseam is like on these jeans, and knowing Jim, I've got a great mental picture of the belt being just below his armpits. May order a set of the fatsopants if they shorten the inseam. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to get a pair of these and report back. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.
Maybe putting on narrower tires. The ECR is designed for 3 wide tires and still have a low-ish bottom bracket. At least one early review stated putting 2.4 tires made the bottom bracket too low for some off-road riding. Was really tempted on the ECR. Went for an Ogre. Less expensive and will be able to run tires from about 47mm to 2.3/2.4 without a problem. Okay, and I really wanted that green color. FWIW, the rumor around here is Surly looks at the ECR as what they would have done with the Fargo adventure bike. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes close enough is good enough. What could you do on the hypothetical Riv that you couldn't do on the ECR? Eric taking my new Krampus out for its first ride in about an hour Daume Dublin, OH On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Clayton treefir...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a serious drool going over the Surly ECR 29+ off road camping bike. Now, if Rivendell made such a bike, I would absolutely have to sell everything I own and get one. Hint Hint Grant? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wheelbuilding advice: spoke gauge? symmetrical rim?
The only wheel I ever built used a Phil FW rear hub. Pretty sure the rim was not offset. Hopefully it is still providing service for the present owner of that Hillborne. Personally, I prefer straight spokes, but most folks agree butted are actually stronger. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: I think the asymmetric rear rim is the greatest thing since sealed bearings. It lets you build a stronger rear wheel with narrower axle and more gears. On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 1:41:25 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote: My next bike project is to build up some new 650b wheels for my Riv Road, using its original Phil hubs. I'm soliciting advice for which spoke gauge/butting to use. Use: Road riding/light trail rambling Touring (220lb rider, ~25lb bike, ~20-40lb load) Parts: Phil Wood 36h Road hub (front) / Phil Wood 36h Road FW hub (rear) Velocity Synergy 650B rims 3x Cross laced DT Swiss spokes --- gauge??? Which gauge of spoke is good for this situation? I want light weight but with enough strength for the heavy load. What gauge/butting would be too light? Is straight gauge overkill? Will using 36h allow me to use a slightly lighter gauge? Rim: Can I use a symmetrical rim in the rear, or do I have to use one with asymmetrical drilling? The Phil Wood FW hub's flanges are only 5mm left of center, better than most cassette hubs. I already have two symmetrical Synergy rims, so I'd like to use them for front and rear if I can. Thanks! Tim Gavin Cedar Rapids, IA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
Find this whole conversation interesting. While I consider any tire 38mm too skinny to ride, a number of friends are now at the point where anything under 50mm is too skinny. Guess I could say that tastes change and people adapt. And that line of thinking is starting to make more sense to me. Honestly, in the past couple weeks have been toying with selling both my Rivendell bikes and buying something that takes at least a 2.5 inch wide tire. For my type of riding, and considering the continuing deterioration of road conditions, it's seeming to be more logical. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Granted, they're not the best for gravel, but 700x25 tires look pretty darn wide to most cyclists, who are used to seeing 700x20 or 23 tires. I have a set on the Motobecane that I purchased from Patrick in ABQ, and I've had people ask me if they are 30-something in width. Going from 700x20 to 700x25 isn't getting you all the way to a set of 42mm-wide Grand Bois, but it's a step in the right direction and plenty wide for most people, who will probably do 99.9% of their riding on smooth pavement. Maybe having a bike that will accommodate 700x28 will encourage this person to try those out ... and I can testify based on personal experience that 700x28 is a pretty darn good tire size as well. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Wherz the rivbike.com site?
Not working in St. Paul, MN. Same screen as above. Hopefully it isn't a squatter. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 2:53 PM, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: Saw a message on the Riv's Tumblr that there are troubles with the site and they are working on it. -Jim On Feb 2, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Not workin' in central Maryland either. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
Bruce and Patrick. Probably won't sell right now. Winter blahs are in full force. Was also being snarky. Or reverse snob. Wider is always better to some. And a Moonlander definitely has a different ride feel than a bike with 42mm Grand Bois tires, at least from my test rides of both. As person who now has the Trek, 'am glad she has a bike she likes. Had a modern Trek in the past and it was an adequate bike. (It was actually the same model reviewed in an early BQ.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 02/02/2014 01:00 PM, James Warren wrote: If he told the her that a road triple (50x40x30 in the front) often has some trouble working well with brifters and she'd be better off with a compact double with its 34F x 28R low, then so far, not such bad advice. But that doesn't complete the story. Lower gears than that are still possible (on a road bike) in a way that does NOT lead to mechanical headaches. We all know. Shouldn't they? They work in bikes. I don't. The word is increasingly getting out. I'm seeing more and more cassettes with 36T large sprockets mated to compact doubles on the bikes my friends ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Wherz the rivbike.com site?
Thanks Robert. Hopefully this gets taken care of PDQ. Hopefully someone has alerted the folks at Rivendell to this issue. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.comwrote: No, it doesn't appear to be a squatter. That's a pretty standard page that hosting companies put up when a domain has expired or hasn't yet been activated. I've seen the exact same picture (though the links are different but in the same places) when I've yet to activate sites I own. I wouldn't worry about that for now. :-) Bob On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.comwrote: Not working in St. Paul, MN. Same screen as above. Hopefully it isn't a squatter. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 2:53 PM, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: Saw a message on the Riv's Tumblr that there are troubles with the site and they are working on it. -Jim On Feb 2, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Not workin' in central Maryland either. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Project - Trail Bike
To follow up on Kellie's idea, a used Surly Troll would work. If that is overkill, then look for a used 1980's Fuji mountain bike. My wife had one in a small size in the late 1980's. Fit her very well. A lot of older mountain bikes have longer top tubes. Keep that in mind when looking. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote: You won't find it used but I'd love to build up a Surly ECR; sizes to fit you too. Otherwise a Hunqapilar. On Sunday, February 2, 2014 5:34:32 PM UTC-8, Lesli Larson wrote: Starting project to build up a new fire trail / off-road bike . I am trying to decide between a new frame and maybe something vintage . I am a shortish woman and I ride a 48 cm to 50 cm frame. Would love to buy a bombadil or Atlantis but what do folks recommend in the the used/vintage category. What would your bike build look like? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site
Brian, While I basically have nothing to say on this list anymore, I don't find the type of post you did to be offensive. There are times when looking at all the bags and other stuff I have the thought comes hmm, maybe someone will ask for one of these on the Riv list. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Brian Campbell bdcampbel...@gmail.comwrote: I posted the original WTB request that Grant responded to. I asked if anyone had a medium saddle bag for sale. If I did not get a response, (which I did not) I was planning to buy a new one from Riv, which will happen shortly. If it matters, I have been buying things from Riv since 2006. I find the amount of negativity smugness associated with the topic a bit off-putting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Bikepacking tips?
So far, lots of good things. Only can add - be careful with the face. Mine has some nerve damage from winter riding in the 1980's. These days, cold makes it sting and ache more than it should. Not to mention my nose getting brown in the cold. The only other advice is - make sure your tires are in good shape. I've found it very tough to change and pump up a tire in below zero. Fingers don't like to work and the bead doesn't like to leave the rim. Otherwise, you seem well prepared. So go and enjoy. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Remember, Ian, I'm going prepared for -30 should it happen, but -10 to -20 is more likely even in a cold snap unless it's a really strong one. Basically, I want cushion in what my gear can handle. The Hunqapillar is the pack animal to get my stuff in (since I can't carry weight above my waist). Once I'm in, unless conditions are favorable for biking, I'll be running or snowshoeing till Friday noon, then head back out. In is 3-5 miles, so while there is no cell service, I do have the big red button emergency personal beacon should the worst happen. I have Feathered Friends expedition down jacket and pants and Seger Arctic mukluks all rated to -30˚F, and I'll be doing a shakedown S24O in the next week or so (hoping for a cold spell like we just had to test the extremes, but doesn't look likely at the moment, with lows possibly only reaching zero). On my run today, the temp was -10˚F with winds at the gusting to 30. No idea what the windchill is there, but with my ventile jacket, even though I sweated wearing only two thin layers of wool and my ventile shell, it breathes so well and blocks the wind so well that it was not an issue whatsoever on a 10 mile run after a 3 mile bike. Click right to see other photos in the series. http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/ 12193608356/in/photostream/ With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 3:48:24 PM UTC-7, IanA wrote: -30F is too cold - I've done my work commute of forty minutes in slightly higher temperatures -20F (-29celcius) with windchill calculated as part of that value and certainly once, I found my body was struggling to warm itself again after I got inside. I got caught at an intersection and the wind got me. The trouble is that in order to ride in those temperatures and even over hard packed snow, the amount of energy used is immense, the body sweats a great deal. And this for very short trips only. I can't imagine you'd ever want to leave the sleeping bag and that brings massive frustration. I believe for that sort of winter camping, you'd be better leaving the bicycle at home. 14 degrees F/-10 celcius is even too cold for extended exposure, although for the 40 min commute, that temperature was surprisingly enjoyable. I have spent time in sub zero C (sub 30F) for extended periods while bicycle travelling, with the nights being quite a bit colder, sleeping in the tent etc. A lot of this time was in the high Andes and through Patagonia. Sometimes I had to walk the bike to get circulation back into the feet. No snow to deal with (not to speak of anyway) and this was, although at times a challenge and a couple of dangerously cold nights, was a fine and peaceful experience, one I feel lucky to have had. There were times over 4000 metres that if the weather had changed - rain for example, where I'd have been in serious trouble. The Iditabikers, although incredible human beings, do have some level of support. It's different when you're alone out there. Can you find something at lower elevation? Sunsets, sea and bicycles, tents and camp stoves - best things ever. Ian A/Canada On Monday, January 27, 2014 3:42:17 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: So rather than flee as a whole family to the southern reaches of Arizona and all the unknown of that that could wreak havoc on my bludgeoned brain, I will be solo bikepacking the areas around here (Pikes Peak) that I know so well. But construction now has a start date of February 17 and an unknown completion date (I’m guessing 3-8 weeks). Temps at the various elevations I’ll be at can range from 45˚F-minus 30˚F. I’m familiar with how to camp at those temperatures, but anyone have experience with caring for a bike at those temps/in snow? What do I need to consider? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com
Re: [RBW] ebay Atlantis 61 cm
My size, and I love the color. No way I can rationalize buying it. Pretty sure I've seen that bike in person. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:31 AM, IanA attew...@gmail.com wrote: The original Atlantis was a Bridgestone bike. When RBW released the Atlantis, it was named Atlantis 2. It was the first and only Rivendell Atlantis and was always called the Atlantis 2. Since its release towards the end of 1999, it's had a few changes (mid fork braze ons, kickstand plate and maybe others), but it's always been the one and only marque. I could be wrong on all counts. Ian A/Canada. On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:14:50 AM UTC-7, Michael wrote: It remind me of Vegetable Korma color. Nice. Did the original Atlantii have a 1 on the seat tube? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rare Early 60s Raleigh - a set on Flickr
Michael, Yes, you had to register a bike. At least until the mid 1970's. Most cities had special stickers or plates. Have not seen that particular St. Louis Park one before. But I don't look hard enough for them. Honestly, I would love to find a few and put on my Rivendell bikes. That might really confuse some folks. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Electric blue... ...you gotta register your bike in Minnesota?!?!?!??! How much would that cost, and do you get points on your MVA record if you get a ticket? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for tire pumps on the road?
Brian reminds of the other part. Each bike has it's own patch kit and spare tube(s). To be honest, I'll rarely use the patch kit in the field. Nice to know it is there. Do believe Grant recommended that back in one of the old Readers. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the info, everyone. I really appreciate it! I kind of like peg mount frame fitting pumps, and the types available in the US seem limited to a handful, which makes for easy decision making. So I have decided to get the Zefal HPX for now, as I am sure it will make it much easier to inflate a tire than with a 12-or-less mini pump (size needed to fit into my Pendle bag). Seems like the Road/Mini/Mountain Morphs are really popular, and the Quicker and the Lesynes. Zefal also makes mini frame pumps about 11.5 long, but looks like only available in Europe. Too bad! They have the classic Silca shape to them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv SKS longboard fenders and BG Rock n Road tires
Similar result. The Longboard front fender is also longer up front. Nice to keep spray off a rack or light. I've been known to both use a longer flap on regular SKS fenders and a shorter flap on the Longboards so the front fender doesn't wag the tail as much. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 1:52 AM, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote: OK, so after some Googling, I've determined that the Longboard not available in a P50, cream or otherwise. It looks like the standard (shorter) SKS is the only option available? Can I assume adding a long flap to the bottom front will net the same result? On Friday, January 17, 2014 11:10:43 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote: Anyone running Longboards (P45) with BG RnR tires? The tires are knobby 43s and the Riv site says the longboards will fit up to a 45, but I think it may be a typo... doesn't P45 designate that it's a 45mm fender? I'm thinking the SKS P50s will be required, but I'd prefer the creme longboards if possible. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Racing Sucks
This is the reason I haven't worn visible lycra in years. (Confession - do wear Novara padded short liners, and those have lycra.) Even in more baggy clothing I wear feel like I'm a bear on a trike in a circus most of the time. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel, I think that's exactly right. They are out there on their bike, so that's great, but I do worry about those that think they have to wear lycra to go out on a ride, so they don't ride. That would be a shame. Toshi On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Daniel D. dddon...@gmail.com wrote: That's the bottom line, My thought when I see overweight people out in lycra riding their race bikes is good for them -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell riders use for tire pumps on the road?
Varies between an old HPX, a Topeak frame pump and the Mountain Morph. The only reason the Hillborne doesn't have a Morph is the double top tube. Would work better with the 38 to 40 mm tires on that bike. Nowadays, with the folks I know, 40mm is positively svelte for a tire. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 6:01 PM, PeterG ssubman2...@yahoo.com wrote: Road morph...absolutely -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: School me on Panaracer gumwall casing design.
Hmm, back when I rode mountain bikes (ca 1984-89) the tires in general were gumwall. And broke down after about 6 months. That was also the problem with my last set of Pasela gumwalls. Barely 1000 miles before the sides started to pull apart. As one can tell, I prefer blackwalls for reliability if nothing else. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: fyp: They still look like awesome tires to me. One more example of how MTB has perfected our aesthetic sense... Philip On Friday, January 17, 2014 1:59:56 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 01/17/2014 04:38 PM, Evan Baird wrote: At that time only low end tires would have been black wall, not the kind of serious enthusiast tires Panasonic, Mitsuboshi, Specialized and WTB were making in Japan. High end clincher tires were meant to look like sew ups, because that's what you saw on pro bikes. It stated with MTB tires and then became trendy with road bikes as well. They still look like low-end tires to me. One more example of how MTB has contaminated our aesthetic sense... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne- why the switch from cantilever/center pulls?
Would agree with Justin on the cost. Also would add the studs have to be accurately placed which takes more time. Which again ends up costing more money. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:49 AM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: Every thing you add on to a tube costs money in materials and time. I imagine that plus the overall larger familiarity people have with side pulls does it. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Sackville Medium Saddle Bag: Do They come in Black?
Seem to remember they were first black. But as Thomas mentioned, there were issues with the fabric. I have a small and a medium and while both are black, they are different shades of black. The black ones have the number plates attached if I remember correctly. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 1:19 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, I have a Carridice saddle bag and an Acorn rando bag and IMO I don't think the Acorn is a higher quality than the Carridice. I'm very impressed with my Carridice. And I'm not denigrating the Acorn quality it's also quite good. I do agree that the Carridice Black with white straps doesn't look *as* good as the Acorn in black with honey strap though If I wanted a large black saddle bag I'd choose the Camper long flap in a heart beat. Again just my two cents FWIW. ~Hugh On Saturday, January 11, 2014 12:13:10 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote: I've never heard of any plans to do black. Green, tan, and tweed are the only colors I've seen. I bought an Acorn Large Saddlebag in black (from a listmember), and it's really nice. Its design is more like a Carradice than the Sackville trunk design, but with honey colored leather vice Carradice's white leather on its black bags. The Acorn is built with much higher quality than a Carradice and is MUSA. However, Acorn's large is still only 6 liters. Nowhere near the Sackville Medium's 18 liters. Tim Gavin Cedar Rapids, IA On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Brian Campbell bdcamp...@gmail.comwrote: I saw the website offerings and was wondering if they were or will be available in black? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] How cold was your first day ride?
1 degree in St. Paul, Minnesota. Did ride my SimpleOne for an hour this morning. On the trainer. Haven't been on my LIT with studded tires for a few days. Finally accepted that I damaged my nose and face years ago riding in the real cold. Now not riding until it warms up to at least 10. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:A bone-chilling, near-paralyzing 58 degrees on our back deck when I departed my house in SF on my QB for Marin Headlands. Even colder than that in the shade! (At least 5 degrees colder than it was last Sunday morning when I made the same ride. )From: Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 1:37 PM Subject: [RBW] How cold was your first day ride? Minus 12. Finished putting pats new alba sand wheels. Cooking dinner and about to pop a bubbly.Michael-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New bike siting: Cheviut/Cheviot/Chevrolet?
Like the look of the bike. If the 60 takes wider tires, it could be a fine alternative to the Hillborne. Two other things - thought the blue and orange was in honor of the Denver Broncos. And the camera Grant used has been my favorite for over a year now. There are times I think it takes better snaps than my mirrorless system. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN sameness samen...@gmail.com wrote:Surely you all misspelled Syracuse.Jeff HagedornWarragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Arlington Loop Ride - Sat, 28 Dec
Looked like a great ride. The WW1 memorial is nice. Remember discovering it when I first visited there. Glad to see the scaffolding coming down on the Washington Monument. But was pleasantly surprised to see they lit it up when we were there in October. Totally jealous as it is now back below zero in the Twin Cities. At noon. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:We even crossed over into DC to see the Lincoln, King, and WWI monuments. I think we rode past Jefferson monument, too.I hadnever seen the WWI monument before. It sits off to the side of the reflecting pool. A beautiful and lonely monument.Tony and Liz were great tourguides. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Redo
Ken, Nice job! Going to keep my eyes open for that one around town next spring. Love the color. BTW, some of the folks are more dedicated than others. Saw someone commuting home yesterday on the snow and ice packed roads on a custom Rivendell. Didn't look like he had studded tires on, either. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:34 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Ken, Very impressed with your paint skills...I decided to have someone more competent than I to do the paint braze on work...supposed to get it back in a week or two. Since I purchased the Atlantis used and am paying for the braze on work plus the paint and all new parts I'll have to wait on a Phi Wood wheel set gotta save for that. Which on your bike with the stainless fenders looks absolutely awesome. Well done. I'll enjoy the pics when they come with all the racks and bags. ~Hugh On Thursday, December 5, 2013 11:12:53 PM UTC-8, Ken Yokanovich wrote: Sometimes projects drag on a bit longer than desired. This one started in July and the whole assembly and final parts selection is still in process. Impatient, I threw on some parts so that I could get it out during the Thanksgiving weekend for a bit of a ride. Glad I did because the weather has now turned to full winter, 0 degrees right now and a good amount of snow on the ground. I had Eric Noren at Peacock Groove add a kickstand plate and mid-fork braze-ons in early July. I also had him face the dropouts and all of the braze-ons with stainless washers. Realizing that I had precious little time to get a paint job on it in time for a late July tour, I gave it a REALLY ugly rattle can paint job at the time so that I could go on RAGBRAI. Over the period of August and up until Thanksgiving I took my time and attempted to do a better job with the paint. I have a much greater appreciation for just how difficult it is to paint a bicycle! I had high aspirations for fancy paint work and contrasting headtube. Reality sunk in quickly and I justified the single-color decision. I figured that by the time I get racks, fenders, and all the parts mounted there will be enough going on that one color might be best anyhow. :) 2 coats of primer, 3 base coat, and several clear. Enough clear over the decals to make them almost smooth with the surface of the paint. I ran out of paint and then out of clear... My outdoor paint booth was subject to occasional moisture issues and had very limited hours of operation as the days grew shorter this fall. Then cooler temperatures complicated the difficulty of getting the clear to flow out smoothly. I ordered my paint through AutomotiveTouchup based on the color of an automobile. The color didn't turn out 100% the way I had envisioned. I was hoping for more of a black-cherry color, but the red-color only shows up in the sunlight. Other times and lighting it almost looks like a green or blue. Lots of sanding, wet sanding, then polish to get me to the point where I am quite pleased with the results. Pics or it doesn't exist, right...? http://www.flickr.com/photos/31359238@N06/sets/72157638215050844/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/31359238@N06/sets/72157638215050844/ -- Ken Yokanovich Roseville, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
