[RBW] WTB: Small Sackville Trunk Bag/Little Loafer/Whatever They're Calling it These Days
Anyone have one to sell? RBW doesn't currently have them on their website. Mine has gone missing and I'm lost without it. Thanks! Shaun -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
Bikes like the RLT and others mentioned here make a lot of sense IMHO. I'm doing RAGBRAI in July and on a internet forum I was reading, there was a thread that essentially amounted to people wringing their hands about the fact that a couple of stretches of gravel might occur on the route. I refrained from responding, but my thought was that if they are that worried about gravel, maybe they've got the wrong bike. These road bikes that offer clearance for bigger tires, and are equipped to take fenders (and racks?) don't give up much to a racing bike and are a lot more versatile. I think I'm going to ride my Surly Straggler on RAGBRAI this year and I've done two 100+ mile gravel grinders on it since May. I welcome a stretch or two of gravel! Shaun Meehan On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Bill and Leslie , Yes Yes Yes ! Getting very warm !I've never ridden a mixte, let alone a 60cm one with a nice tall front end . I'd like a bit taller than my 60cm. Bombadil, and with possibly a bit lower trail and even more front-center distance. Longer chainstays possibly also ! As long as the front end can be as stable as my Bomba even with front loads when standing and climbing, I'm in with the TT being gone. If not, I can still live with a TT, but boy, mixte's just have an appealing look to me :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam water bottle braze-on disappearance act
I had that happen on an old Trek frame that I had. I took an AVK threaded insert and kludged the installation of it with a bolt and a stack of washers. Once installed, it held fine. It looked kind of ugly but you couldn't see it when the cage was installed anyway. Shaun Meehan On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 7:18 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote: Physics!! -Original Message- From: jandrews_nyc Sent: Apr 3, 2014 5:07 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam water bottle braze-on disappearance act Thats the original Orange QB.. Just a bad photo... On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 11:53:50 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote: Is it the orange in lighting that makes it look red? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2014, at 8:51 PM, BSWP asht...@gmail.com wrote: When were QuickBeams made in that colour? - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?
Yeah, that's a good point too. If you were to refer to an oversized steel-tubed frame as oversized when it's sitting next to a modern carbon fiber bike with 3 deep by 1 wided bladed tubes, it REALLY starts to sound silly. Especially if your audience is a group of 20-something-year-old roadies. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:40 AM, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, the oversized description doesn't work anymore these days, when most bike frames have tube proportions that make them look drawn by a toddler with a fistful of dull fat crayon. That's why the headsets have disappeared, too. (I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that..don't get me wrong..) On Monday, February 17, 2014 5:22:17 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: I have heard some say that RBW uses oversized tubing on their bikes. But their tubes don't look any bigger to me than other steel bikes. What does this term mean in reference to RBW bikes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 02/19/2014 11:40 AM, grant wrote: Yep, the oversized description doesn't work anymore these days, when most bike frames have tube proportions that make them look drawn by a toddler with a fistful of dull fat crayon. That's why the headsets have disappeared, too. (I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that..don't get me wrong..) Which headsets have disappeared? I think Grant was referring to the fact that most modern bikes' headsets have disappeared (been moved to inside the headtube) because of the largeness of current frame tubes. If it were even possible to put a headtube for a 1 or 9/8 external headset on a bike with enormous tubes, it would look completely absurd. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Just what is oversized tubing?
Agreed. And we might as well start referring to the traditional diameter tubung as undersized tubing. Shaun Meehan On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: It's been 20+ years since oversized tubing became the usual size of tubing. Almost nobody uses the old sizes of tubing anymore. I move that two decades is enough that we can start just referring to the formerly oversized tubing as tubing or standard-size tubing or whatever term makes it sound like the normal thing, which it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?
Oversized tubing isn't oversized at all to anyone who hasn't been around bikes for 25-or-so years. To those newer to cycling oversized tubing and clipless pedals are equally bizarre terms. Both refer to what they've always seen as the norm. Anyway, my comment about referring to traditional size tuding as undersized was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 02/18/2014 01:34 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I meant derision in the sense that retro-grouches always resist new things, even when the new things have been common and widely accepted for a decade or two or three. The word oversize in this context is almost never used by somebody who doesn't have a bias toward older bikes. You mean, in addition to framebuilders who work with all diameters of steel tubing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?
I get it. Everything old is new again, to the point where the retrogrouch is the guy/girl that's refusing to try the new old stuff because the old stuff is too new-fangled for him or her. Plus ça change and so forth... On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: This response is also tongue-in-cheek. tongue in cheek, tongue in cheek. Since the new fad is for super flexy bikes made from undersized skinny tubes, who is the retrogrouch in this picture? The young kid who is trying this new flexible frame idea, having ridden stiff road bikes for the last 10 years? Is that kid the retrogrouch? Or is the retrogrouch the person who refuses to be open minded about the new fad for more flexible bikes, because he (or she) is programmed with the sales pitch you don't want a bike that rides like a wet noodle that they first heard 30 years ago? I don't know the answer to that tongue in cheek question. I own two bikes with 'undersized' 28.6mm diameter downtubes. They were both made recently. I bought them because I wanted to try out this new flexy thing. I like them both. I also like my other bikes that have 31.8mm diameter downtubes. Am I a retrogrouch because flexiness is the exclusive domain of old bikes, even if they were manufactured recently? Or, since I haven't made up my mind, am I not a retrogrouch? Or, since I call a 31.8mm downtube OS, am I a retrogrouch, derisively insulting my own bikes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?
I'm on board with doing away with the retrogrouch label. The only drawback is that it would eliminate an easy way of categorizing myself when trying to relate my preferences to someone who's enthusiastic about a lot of the whizbang advancements that I have no interest in. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: I think it's long past time to retire retrogrouch. All it ever was was a term of derision directed at those who were too independent-minded to fall into a swoon at the mention of any gimcrack marketed as something new (in a field where little, if anything hasn't already been tried before at least once, if not many times over, most likely more than a lifetime ago). On 02/18/2014 03:44 PM, Shaun Meehan wrote: I get it. Everything old is new again, to the point where the retrogrouch is the guy/girl that's refusing to try the new old stuff because the old stuff is too new-fangled for him or her. Plus ça change and so forth... On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: This response is also tongue-in-cheek. tongue in cheek, tongue in cheek. Since the new fad is for super flexy bikes made from undersized skinny tubes, who is the retrogrouch in this picture? The young kid who is trying this new flexible frame idea, having ridden stiff road bikes for the last 10 years? Is that kid the retrogrouch? Or is the retrogrouch the person who refuses to be open minded about the new fad for more flexible bikes, because he (or she) is programmed with the sales pitch you don't want a bike that rides like a wet noodle that they first heard 30 years ago? I don't know the answer to that tongue in cheek question. I own two bikes with 'undersized' 28.6mm diameter downtubes. They were both made recently. I bought them because I wanted to try out this new flexy thing. I like them both. I also like my other bikes that have 31.8mm diameter downtubes. Am I a retrogrouch because flexiness is the exclusive domain of old bikes, even if they were manufactured recently? Or, since I haven't made up my mind, am I not a retrogrouch? Or, since I call a 31.8mm downtube OS, am I a retrogrouch, derisively insulting my own bikes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.
I don't know. I've seen Thill's ECR up-close and in person and it's one of the most drool worthy bikes I can remember seeing in a long time! Shaun Meehan On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Hudson Doerge htdoe...@yahoo.com wrote: Also, Hunq's with 622 wheels have the same 80mm bb drop so difference there re problems running smaller tires on the ECR vs. the Hunq. On Sunday, February 16, 2014 8:26:04 AM UTC-6, Eric Daume wrote: BB drop on the ECR is 80mm, same as my old first gen Fargo. That was low, but singletrack riding was still possible and fun--just time your pedal rotations in the worst spots. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Eric Platt eperic...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe putting on narrower tires. The ECR is designed for 3 wide tires and still have a low-ish bottom bracket. At least one early review stated putting 2.4 tires made the bottom bracket too low for some off-road riding. Was really tempted on the ECR. Went for an Ogre. Less expensive and will be able to run tires from about 47mm to 2.3/2.4 without a problem. Okay, and I really wanted that green color. FWIW, the rumor around here is Surly looks at the ECR as what they would have done with the Fargo adventure bike. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Eric Daume eric...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes close enough is good enough. What could you do on the hypothetical Riv that you couldn't do on the ECR? Eric taking my new Krampus out for its first ride in about an hour Daume Dublin, OH On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Clayton treef...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a serious drool going over the Surly ECR 29+ off road camping bike. Now, if Rivendell made such a bike, I would absolutely have to sell everything I own and get one. Hint Hint Grant? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?
If the person making the comment is riding an over-geared, uncomfortable, ultra-light-weight racing bike that is of no use on anything other than smooth pavement, with no tire clearance, no fender clearance, and no ability to mount racks or bags, while wearing shoes that make it difficult for them to walk, and is not actively participating in a bike race; then who has drunk the Koolaid? Shaun Meehan On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: Around here, a short beard, grey white, will probably get the comment - so you work for Surly?Only have had a couple of comments over the years on my Rivendell bikes. And they are usually by riders either on custom steel frames, or fixed-gear messenger types. Most regular cyclists around here have no idea or interest in Rivendell. While there are a lot of modern technology bikes around here, there are still a lot of riders on steel. Surly, old Trek and now All City being the three I most often notice. In fact, All City may be making a push to replace the Surly Cross Check as what I would consider the ubiquitous Twin Cities bicycle. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:47 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Even a short beard wards off those people, especially if it's grey white :-). Rear view mirror, wool socks w/sandals they don't even have to see your bike to just know. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?
Not trying to build a bastion of zealotry. Not at all. I have friends that wear spandex and ride plastic bikes. My point is that those guys are very likely more influenced by industry marketing and hype than your average Rivendell (or any other practical bike) rider. So who are they to be making accusations of Koolaid drinking? Shaun Meehan On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Please, let's not build up our own little corners of zealotry. I know more than a few friendly riders who put in far more miles than I do in billboard lycra and on billboard carbon fiber. Not my taste, but they are not all posers or dupes. Y'all behave or I'll post another photo of Reg Harris. Patrick no beard; pony tail Moore, in bike-friendly, live-and-let-live ABQ, NM who rides (in summer) in street shorts and Hawaiian shirts (at least until he can afford to buy a couple Ground Effect jerseys from NZ. On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.comwrote: If the person making the comment is riding an over-geared, uncomfortable, ultra-light-weight racing bike that is of no use on anything other than smooth pavement, with no tire clearance, no fender clearance, and no ability to mount racks or bags, while wearing shoes that make it difficult for them to walk, and is not actively participating in a bike race; then who has drunk the Koolaid? Shaun Meehan On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.comwrote: Around here, a short beard, grey white, will probably get the comment - so you work for Surly?Only have had a couple of comments over the years on my Rivendell bikes. And they are usually by riders either on custom steel frames, or fixed-gear messenger types. Most regular cyclists around here have no idea or interest in Rivendell. While there are a lot of modern technology bikes around here, there are still a lot of riders on steel. Surly, old Trek and now All City being the three I most often notice. In fact, All City may be making a push to replace the Surly Cross Check as what I would consider the ubiquitous Twin Cities bicycle. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:47 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Even a short beard wards off those people, especially if it's grey white :-). Rear view mirror, wool socks w/sandals they don't even have to see your bike to just know. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tall Riders Group! Auction of potential interest to you guys!
When I had my 68cm Rivendells I would occasionally post a picture and have someone ask if I they were 26 wheels. Shaun Meehan On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:35 PM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes, looking at wheels on really tall frames, I wonder why we don't see 750c wheelsets... talller wheels would balance the taller frames. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] first century tomorrow - any last minute tips?
Just keep pedaling. You'll do great! Shaun Meehan On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:21 PM, NWAJack nwaj...@gmail.com wrote: I'm up in Joplin for my first Century ever. Will be riding Jenny the AHH warrior bike with handlebar bags and all. Going to wear canari padded briefs and musa shorts. Any last minute tips for me? Previous long ride has been about 65 miles. Jack, normally in Arkansas, Stewart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Fitting - A Mine Field
I've got a 64cm LHT that replaced a 68cm Atlantis. There is probably 1 or 2 more cm of seatpost showing on the Trucker but I feel more comfortable on it. With spacers on the steerer the vertical relationship beween the saddle and the bars is the same as on the Atlantis (bars slightly higher than saddle). I sized the Atlantis based on PBH, as RBW recommends, and the top tube always felt too long on the bike. Shaun Meehan On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Matt Beebe matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jim, I measured a 58 and and a 62, though my measurements may have been off by half a centimeter give or take.The 58 seems to have a 61cm actual TT length, and the 62 has a 63cm actual TT length.Doing some trigonometry the 58 Hunq has about a 63cm effective TT and the 62 has about a 65cm ETT. Also there is a post here ( https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/Z-4DozId6xI/9kcJ95rY5F0J) where William confirmed with Keven that the numbers had changed after the chart was made. Matt On Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:22:50 AM UTC-4, James Warren wrote: The following frames do not have expanded geometry: Atlantis, AHH, Roadeo. The following do: Hillborne, Hunqapillar, Bombadil, San Marcos, Betty Foy The expanded ones are identified in the chart by their 6 degree toptube slope (if they have a TT.) Any in that category should be showing just effective TT length. If the Hunqapillar is not showing the true effective TT number, then either geometry was changed without notice (since it is subject to that), there is a misprint, or there is some other error. Matt, how do you know that the Hunqapillar's listed length is not the real effective TT? Did you measure one? I've never done that on a sloping frame. I guess that would be simple to do. Just curious, how did you do it? (I might try a rigid meter stick held horizontal and a bubble level on top of the stick, with the stick's zero positioned at the seat post center.) -Jim W. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2013, at 12:45 AM, Matt Beebe matthi...@gmail.com wrote: It's not actually clear which frames on the current geometry chart show the effective rather than actual TT lengths. I know for example that the Hunqapillar TT lengths listed are definitely not effective length though, I don't even think they are actual length. Matt On Thursday, August 1, 2013 1:29:18 AM UTC-4, James Warren wrote: To David Craig's question: no, for Atlantis and AHH, the TT listings are actual, not effective. So with those two, the effective TT is a bit longer, but the effect is relatively small due to low angles. But yes it's true that the expanded frames (6 degree upslope ones) only list the effective TT, not actual. If you like geometry and trigonometry, I figured our how to calculate effective TT length. If you're interested, send me a private message. -Jim W. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2013, at 4:23 PM, David Craig neritic...@gmail.com wrote: Point taken, Matt. On the topic of tt's, I seem to recall reading in something from RBW that they list only the effective tt on the geometry charts. Is that true? If so, does it apply to the Atlantis as well as the bikes with more angle to the tt (Hilborne).? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Fitting - A Mine Field
A friend of mine recently purchased a Long Haul Trucker from his LBS in Wisconsin after coming up and test riding both my LHT and my Ogre to decide which one he wanted to get. When the shop took delivery of the bike, my friend called me asking for my advice as to what height he should have his steerer cut to, as the shop was ready to cut it for him as part of the assembly and set-up process. I told him to ask them not cut it at all, and to have them install adequate spacers for assembly. I explained that he could then play around with the height indefinitely and if and when he knew that he had his bars exactly where he wanted them, we could then cut it. He was buying a 64cm bike too, so it wasn't a ton of spacers. I also told him that my 64cm (that he did a test ride on) still has the full steerer and that the stem was right at the top. He relayed his request to the shop (while I was still on the phone) and he got a surprising amount of resistance! No you don't want to do that, etc. I kept insisting that that's exactly what he wanted them to do and it almost became an argument with my friend stuck in the middle. They finally agreed not to cut it and installed the spacers. I guess some shops just have the mentality that the steerer needs to be cut. Shaun Meehan On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:50 PM, David Craig neritic.mari...@gmail.comwrote: Wow, Jim, thanks for this information. I had never really thought about this since I always ride Surly's largest sizes. I checked out the Surly site and noted that for the LHT, all sizes of the 700c bikes have a 320 mm steer tube. I'm glad I didn't get a 64cm LHT thinking I would get additional bar height over a 62! And I'm equally glad I didn't advise anyone to go for larger sizes just to get the bars higher because your point about the problem of getting too large of a frame when buying a Surly using the Riv sizing guidelines seems right on. However, negative perceptions about stacks o spacers on uncut tubes do complicate putting someone on the best frame size as you suggest. It took me a year to sell my wife on a steer tube extension for her road bike because she didn't like the way it looked. Neck pain and hand numbness eventually helped to make the case. I did note that the 26 LHT's do have different sized steerers for different ranges. Size 54 and below have a 300mm steer tube and 56 and above have a 380mm steer tube. It seems clear also that a 62cm CC would have a lower max bar height than a 62cm LHT given that CC's have a 300mm steer tube and LHT's have a 320mm tube. So . . . someone looking to get those bars up there for a given frame size would be better served by getting the LHT. Dave On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 5:17:53 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: All Cross-checks in all sizes come out of the box with 300 mm steerers. With a 62 cm frame, there is nothing to cut off because the head tube is long enough to allow a stem and maybe an inch or two of spacers. The old Surly warranty stipulated that stem plus spacers shouldn't exceed 100 mm, but last year they changed that, and now they say there is no limit on steerer length. But this is important: with threaded steerers, the size of the frame determines how high you can get the bars. If you want high bars, get a big frame. This is the Rivendell way. This advice is completely worthless with threadless steerers like Surly uses, because all sizes can have the same handlebar height if you don't cut the steerer. So a 52 cm frame can theoretically fit exactly the same as a 58 cm frame if the stem length is long enough to make up the difference. Buying a Surly using the Riv sizing guideline apples-to-apples is quite likely to result in a bike that's on the too-big side. I will tell you that uncut steerers with a lot of spacers tend to get a lot of negative commentary. Our Surly floor bikes usually sport this feature, and everyday somebody asks me to justify it or comments that they don't like the look. Yet of the bikes that sell, only a small fraction come back to have the steerer shortened. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Paint: Army Green or Tuxedo Black?
I've got a Surly Ogre in Shrek (i.e. Army) Green and a Long Haul Trucker in black. Both colors are great. I like the green of the Ogre better, for what it's worth. But that's not to say you would. Shaun Meehan On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Evan Spacht evan.spa...@gmail.com wrote: my vote: army green black headtube / black lug filler On Monday, July 29, 2013 1:54:55 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Hi Friends, I anticipate getting closer to the delivery of Appaloosa custom and was all set on a good WWII type Khaki green, and THEN just as Grant predicted I've been wavering. I am now considering a black frame --either way with of course a cream headtube. So I'm throwing out some chum to see what all y'all think: black or army green? Please feel free to post links to your beautiful black or army green bike. RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Thin Gripsters are cool
I put a pair on my Long Haul Trucker a couple of months ago. They're the best flat pedals I've tried! Shaun Meehan On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Curtis McKenzie cmkcy...@gmail.com wrote: I agree. The thin gripsters are great. I have not slipped in four months of use. On Wednesday, July 24, 2013, William wrote: I'm running my first pair of Thin Gripsters. I like them a lot so far. They really do grab well. The MKS Sneakers and the Grip Kings both have kind of a concave area in the middle that I had gotten used to, so the Thin Gripsters being MUCH flatter almost felt convex at first, but I've grown accustomed. I might drop my saddle a couple mm. They are so thin they made my saddle feel higher. So far, thumbs up! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rich-built wheels
Yes, Jim Thill is a pretty adept wheel builder himself. I don't know how many wheels he's built but it's a lot. I've got two sets that he built and they just keep rolling with no troubles. Technically I built one of those four wheels under Jim's supervision but Jim kindly tweaked things a bit when I was done. Shaun Meehan On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: As Peter M expressed, it IS like good cooking. Anyone can cook, but like a Mothers Cooking, What is it about it that always makes it taste so good ? It doesn't taste like the neighbors, or the local pot luck, or from a factory, or any restaurant. It's Love , Trust. Intangibly indescribable. No price tag on that ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Terrible News
Like most here, I only knew Seth through his posts and the pictures that he shared. That's enough to understand that he was a great person. My condolences to Seth's family and friends. Shaun Meehan On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Tim tim.ki...@yahoo.com wrote: *I logged on tonight to ask for some problem solving help but it is no longer important. I saw Seth's name when reading posts but that was it, but I was immediately saddened to hear the news of his tragic death. Thanks to whoever posted his flickr link of favorite photos. I spent some time with them and they were delightful. I felt as if I got the opportunity to know Seth a bit and know that I would have enjoyed his company. My deepest sympathy goes out to his friends and family tonight.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] I await these being sold by Riv shortly :)
Bike doily??? Shaun Meehan On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Addison Wilhite addisonwilh...@gmail.comwrote: http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2013/07/dressing-up-your-bike-with-knitting.html Even my wife called it nerdy but I kind of think she meant it as a compliment. Might look good on her soon to be received Betty Foy. Regards, -- Addison http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation
I would like to once again offer up my sure-fire solution to simultaneously fix all creaking in a Brooks (or any leather) saddle once and for all AND permanently and completely eliminate all saddle maintenance. Simply remove the Brooks saddle and replace it with a high-quality plastic and vinyl one (yes they exist!). Works every time! Shaun Meehan On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:13 PM, shawn shawn.adki...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody have any recommendations on dealing with the creak in the sprung saddle? This is driving my wife crazy. I tried boeshield, no luck. On Monday, July 1, 2013 3:43:50 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Get a sprung brooks saddle, it creaks all the time and covers up any other creaks you might be hearing. Problem solved. :) On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Phil Brown philc...@gmail.com wrote: What you think are BB creaks are many times seat post creaks. If it is from the BB teflon tape may cure it. Phil Brown On Monday, July 1, 2013 11:25:35 AM UTC-7, Mojo wrote: So you guys are probably better at this. But just in case: When your bottom bracket area starts creaking with each pedal stroke, before you tighten the chainring bolts, before you tighten the crankarm bolts, before you pull your crankarms and reinstall, before you pull the crankarms again and replace the bottom bracket cartridge... try tightening down the pedals. It might save you an hour or your precious time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation
You can actually get quality and comfort outside of leather. Really! I like the comfort and looks of leather saddles but I just got tired of the freakin' squeaking. Over the course of several years, I switched out two Brookses (?) and a Selle Anatomica with three WTB Pure V's and I'm very happy with them. For me they're just as comfortable as a B17. They don't look as nice but I can happily live with the aesthetics as all squeaking has been completely eliminated. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: I could just replace my bike with a couch and not have any bike related issues. Nah, I will go for quality and comfort over perceived ease of use. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.comwrote: I would like to once again offer up my sure-fire solution to simultaneously fix all creaking in a Brooks (or any leather) saddle once and for all AND permanently and completely eliminate all saddle maintenance. Simply remove the Brooks saddle and replace it with a high-quality plastic and vinyl one (yes they exist!). Works every time! Shaun Meehan On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:13 PM, shawn shawn.adki...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody have any recommendations on dealing with the creak in the sprung saddle? This is driving my wife crazy. I tried boeshield, no luck.** ** On Monday, July 1, 2013 3:43:50 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Get a sprung brooks saddle, it creaks all the time and covers up any other creaks you might be hearing. Problem solved. :) On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Phil Brown philc...@gmail.com wrote: What you think are BB creaks are many times seat post creaks. If it is from the BB teflon tape may cure it. Phil Brown On Monday, July 1, 2013 11:25:35 AM UTC-7, Mojo wrote: So you guys are probably better at this. But just in case: When your bottom bracket area starts creaking with each pedal stroke, before you tighten the chainring bolts, before you tighten the crankarm bolts, before you pull your crankarms and reinstall, before you pull the crankarms again and replace the bottom bracket cartridge... try tightening down the pedals. It might save you an hour or your precious time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - Nitto Lugged Seatpost
RBW sells them for $204 so the one on eBay still seems pretty reasonable. I've got one that I used to have on my Atlantis that's now out-of-place on my Long Haul Trucker. I haven't pulled it out but I think it's in excellent condition. I wasn't really planning on selling it but I'd be willing to if you'd like to make an offer, Aaron. If you've got good-quality 27.2 post you could offer as partial payment, I'd be open to that too. Shaun On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: There's one on Ebay right now, but it's on the way to being bid into the stratosphere. Good Luck. On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 2:14:19 PM UTC-7, Aaron Schmidt wrote: I need more setback on my Sam! I keep thinking that I'll swap out my Albas for drops to see if that solves my setback problem, but I like riding with the Albas too much to monkey around. Perhaps you bought the fanciest of seatposts thinking you needed a lot of setback and it turned out you didn't. Or maybe you bought it because it is pretty and for some reason aren't using it. Either way, please let me know if you're looking to unload it. (I'm currently running a good condition S83 that I'll no longer need if you're into doing a partial trade). Thanks! Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys
Ha! That picture is great. The saddle on that bike looks insanely uncomfortable. Now I think I understand what people mean when they say ass hatchet. Shaun Meehan On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Brewster Fong bfd...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, June 7, 2013 6:00:58 AM UTC-7, meehan...@gmail.com wrote: Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this group's strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes; it seems a bit unrealistic to request that this group not engage in anti-carbon discussion. I would imagine it's akin to going to a group with a fondness for traditional film camera and ask that they not dis digital photography. Just sayin'... But are you *really* familiar with Grant P's feelings towards carbon bikes: http://sheldonbrown.com/lasvegas/2005/pages/13.html Good Luck! Shaun On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote: I'm more comfortable - even without gel diapers On Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:42:20 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote: But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior group of people? While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that I am not smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by love for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles. We are bound by love and that is our sameness. okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0) -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys
Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this group's strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes; it seems a bit unrealistic to request that this group not engage in anti-carbon discussion. I would imagine it's akin to going to a group with a fondness for traditional film camera and ask that they not dis digital photography. Just sayin'... Shaun On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: I'm more comfortable - even without gel diapers On Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:42:20 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote: But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior group of people? While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that I am not smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by love for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles. We are bound by love and that is our sameness. okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0) -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: XL Olive/Brown MUSA Knickers
Hi All, I've got a pair of XL Olive/Brown MUSA Knickers I'd like to sell. They're essentially like new. I wore them for a little while off the bike and then did one short ride. I decided I needed a size large. I really like the knickers! I ordered two pair in large. I'll take $50 and that includes shipping. Thanks! Shaun -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Some details on the midwest Riv and Country Bike Rally
Are we going to forge the the ice-cold, waist-deep and treacherous Root River with its sweeping current, where the bridge is out near Preston? Are will we circumnavigate? On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Doug M yengamg...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be driving from St Paul to Preston on Friday afternoon and riding from there to Forestville to camp for the night. I'll break camp Sunday AM and ride back to Preston to drop off the camping gear and ride for the day. Returning to St Paul late Sunday afternoon when the rally is over. I have room for one other bike, rider and their gear if anyone is interested. On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:44:23 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I want to offer a bit of detail about what this year's country bike rally participants can expect. We will be following the general course, if not the exact route, of the Almanzo 100, over two days of riding. Almanzo cue sheets, last I checked, were available for download. The Almanzo course is mostly gravel, which can be highly variable between smooth and pavement-like to gnarly loose gravel with potholes. The terrain is quite hilly by Midwestern standards, but splitting the route into 2 days and taking a leisurely pace should make it less of an ordeal. Weather, as always, will be a factor. It's certain that bikes will get dirty, and possible that rocks will chip the paint. That's life. We will ride as a group and regroup as needed when we get separated by hills or whatever. That said, this is a ride at your own risk situation. Any participant is free to opt out for any reason, but there is no support car to pick you up if that happens. Hopefully we can support each other and all have a good ride without incident. But stuff happens, and every rider should accept the inherent risks and have some kind of backup plan. We will pass through a couple small towns where we may be able to eat in cafes and get groceries. But for the most part, plan to have the day's food/water on the bike. Any other questions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Some details on the midwest Riv and Country Bike Rally
Damn! I was deliberately trying to make it sound extra dicey with the hope that you would answer of course we're crossing at the bridge site. This would give participants something to anticipate with a bit of trepidation. Myself included! I was think we could send the Weasel across first with a line that he could secure on the other side for the rest of us to hang onto. Sort of like a bicycle Sherpa. On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I prefer to leave the decision on river fording to the group. None of us is as stupid as all of us! On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 4:01:27 PM UTC-5, meehan...@gmail.com wrote: Are we going to forge the the ice-cold, waist-deep and treacherous Root River with its sweeping current, where the bridge is out near Preston? Are will we circumnavigate? On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Doug M yenga...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be driving from St Paul to Preston on Friday afternoon and riding from there to Forestville to camp for the night. I'll break camp Sunday AM and ride back to Preston to drop off the camping gear and ride for the day. Returning to St Paul late Sunday afternoon when the rally is over. I have room for one other bike, rider and their gear if anyone is interested. On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:44:23 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I want to offer a bit of detail about what this year's country bike rally participants can expect. We will be following the general course, if not the exact route, of the Almanzo 100, over two days of riding. Almanzo cue sheets, last I checked, were available for download. The Almanzo course is mostly gravel, which can be highly variable between smooth and pavement-like to gnarly loose gravel with potholes. The terrain is quite hilly by Midwestern standards, but splitting the route into 2 days and taking a leisurely pace should make it less of an ordeal. Weather, as always, will be a factor. It's certain that bikes will get dirty, and possible that rocks will chip the paint. That's life. We will ride as a group and regroup as needed when we get separated by hills or whatever. That said, this is a ride at your own risk situation. Any participant is free to opt out for any reason, but there is no support car to pick you up if that happens. Hopefully we can support each other and all have a good ride without incident. But stuff happens, and every rider should accept the inherent risks and have some kind of backup plan. We will pass through a couple small towns where we may be able to eat in cafes and get groceries. But for the most part, plan to have the day's food/water on the bike. Any other questions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: That Pugsley
I rode both a Pugsley and a Moonlander at Jim's shop, Hiawatha Cyclery in Minneapolis. For me, the wide bottom bracket was not an issue at all and I was expecting it to be. The bikes where nowhere near as cumbersome or clumsy feeling as I was expecting. I could see having all kinds of fun on one of them. I've got fat bike fever now. Shaun Meehan On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.comwrote: I rode my friend Ed's small frame Pugsley; it felt like a BMX bike for clydesdales. Pretty sweet, actually, but I can't see one for much of a distance. I would jump the hell out of one though. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Almost everybody who rides one is surprised by the experience. The wide Q isn't that bigga deal. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:40:11 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Sorry, readers, I didn't get a chance to ride it, since it was special ordered and the owner picked it up before this week's workday. But Steve is thinking of getting one for a floor model (as well as one or a few Long Haul Truckers, which have been selling well). 210 mm Q factor shudder. But if/when one comes in, I will try it and report. -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Some details on the midwest Riv and Country Bike Rally
I decided to forego the official Almanzo ride this weekend in favor of doing this. This sounds like a lot more fun and really I can't afford to take the time to do both. I hope the weather cooperates! Shaun Meehan On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:05 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Also, starting in the towns allows one-day ralliers to drive in, park somewhere, and meet us conveniently. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
I like the Nuun tablets. They're portable and you just drop one in a bottle of water. They add a light flavor to the water but not overly sweet. http://nuun.com/ Shaun Meehan On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Jeff Lesperance jeff.lespera...@gmail.comwrote: I've had a good experience with a variety of the Hammer nutrition products, including their Endurolyte product: http://www.hammernutrition.com/products/endurolytes.elt.html Yeah, I know there are plenty of homemade-type recipes out there, but this is one situation where I happily take a shortcut and have found the results I need. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:25 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rivsters, On long rides I notice I have a tendency to get leg cramps in my feet calf's which is usually long after the ride. I drink plenty of water as I don't like being dehydrated. I have used electrolyte solutions before but dislike the ones with sugar. So was wondering if anyone has experience with such a sugarless product. Thanks, Hugh Sunland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
Potassium is one of the primary electrolytes and all electrolyte replacement drinks contain potassium. Shaun Meehan On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Alex Zeibot veloban...@gmail.com wrote: Electrolytes are for muscle fatigue, I doubt they help to reduce or prevent leg cramps. Cramps are due to the depletion or lack of potassium. My solution: coconut water. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.comwrote: I like the Nuun tablets. They're portable and you just drop one in a bottle of water. They add a light flavor to the water but not overly sweet. http://nuun.com/ Shaun Meehan On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Jeff Lesperance jeff.lespera...@gmail.com wrote: I've had a good experience with a variety of the Hammer nutrition products, including their Endurolyte product: http://www.hammernutrition.com/products/endurolytes.elt.html Yeah, I know there are plenty of homemade-type recipes out there, but this is one situation where I happily take a shortcut and have found the results I need. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:25 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rivsters, On long rides I notice I have a tendency to get leg cramps in my feet calf's which is usually long after the ride. I drink plenty of water as I don't like being dehydrated. I have used electrolyte solutions before but dislike the ones with sugar. So was wondering if anyone has experience with such a sugarless product. Thanks, Hugh Sunland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
I love Rivendell bikes and I used to own two of them. The reason I don't own any now is simply because I couldn't bear seeing them get beat up. So now I ride powder-coated, less-expansive alternatives. I still like the Rivendell philosophy and occasional buy great products from RBW. But frankly, I just don't see an issue with discussing alternatives to Riv products when someone cannot afford or is otherwise not inclined to purchase a Rivendell. Shaun Meehan On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:13 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Amen, brother Deacon, amen. Patrick Moore, trying to follow St. Paul and suffer fools gladly in surprisingly cold, cloudy and windy ABQ, NM On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.comwrote: Ignoring those who seek attention through annoying or bad behavior is a tried and true option. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New Bike Fitting System
Hey, Jim. Let me know when your Roll Body Scanner comes in at HC. I'd like to schedule an appointment to better dial in the Ogre. Thanks! Shaun On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: How one FEELS on a bike , is Entirely subjective !Since the days of following bike racing as a kid I recall the lamenting over certain riders, Sean Kelley comes to mind. The bike fit experts said his seat was way too low, he was too scrunched ... etc. etc. Yet it worked for HIM !! That is what I mean. It's mind AND body working in unison , to which there simply is no wonderformula . What looks bad to one standard seen from without, Works from within. But there is a large range of which one can ride and ride well. When one is in tune to themselves , there is no stopping them. I recall a TDF a few years ago when Jens Voigt crashed in a stage, he had no team car around, so he grabbed a KIDS bike from the crowd and kept going until the team car could find him . Now , this is short term of course but I bet if he had to finish a stage with it, he would still be just fine :) People are finicky about bike fit, because they are in a finicky state of mind . Examine their lives and you'll see it's not just bikes they are finicky about . Some of most fun rides I had as a teen was on a bike that was about 3-4 inches less long and shorter in bar height !! On Friday, April 12, 2013 9:31:48 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Garth gart...@gmail.com wrote: Yep ... bike fit and feel is entirely subjective. Is that true? Then lower (or raise) your saddle by 3, move it forward (or back) by 2, think some powerfully good thoughts, and ride: if it all is subjective -- by which you mean in your mind -- then the bike should feel and work as well as it did before. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Moustache vs. Noodle bar reach overlay with pics
Gene Oberpriller also won the Chequamegon 40 on a X0-1 with moustache bars. That's Gene-O in the picture weating the red jersey with the two white stripes. In fact, that might be the very bike that he won the Chequamegon 40 on. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 10:08 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: John Stamstad beat the 24 hour off road record with them. Me, I rate them in the middle -- I would probably like them for shorter rides were it not for the very sensitive heel of my left hand: they give very good control and torque. Odd, they felt best when positioned low like drop bars. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I've met very few who could tolerate M-bars. I think they're horrendous. But obviously some people think they're great. It might be one of those things we all need to try at some point. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lightest, fastest, comfortablest 622 tires in the 37 to 45 mm range?
The 38mm Schwalbwe Marathon Racers are lighter than the Supremes and arguably more compliant. At the expense of less flat protection. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:43 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I'd try them if they came in a 559 size that fit my frames (I bet a true 37 would fit). I have pretty decent 559X32 mm (32 actual, 34/1.35 labeled) Kojaks on one of the Rivs and even so, not like the gofast. Seriously, if a fat, cush tire would climb as fast as the skinnies, I'd switch. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:38 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, These aren't skinny but as someone who road 23c tires for years (Michelin pro 3 and others) the Hetre's are amazingly fast. Just saying best of both worlds fat fast! Hugh Sunland, CA On Thursday, April 4, 2013 7:27:59 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Regarding fat tires: I'm going to put 35s on the new Ram (bro brought wheelset -- last item!) and I use fat ones on the Fargo and 1.35s on the commuter Riv fixie, but I've been climbing a steep, 1 mile hill on various bikes and I have to say that the 17.5 lb 75 gofast, with sub 200 gram 22 mm 650C (see) skinnies, climbs that hill and all others better than any other bike I own or have owned, and this consistently over 10 years or more. I won't be giving up the lightweight, skinny wheelset. Fatter tires on all other bikes, but not on this one: well, I will probably replace the 23s -- Michelin Pro Race 3s -- with 25s, but not any fatter or heavier, until someone can tell me what makes this bike climb so well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- __ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. http://resumespecialties.com/testimonials.html Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW, Albuquerque, NM, USA http://resumespecialties.com/index.html * patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Moustache vs. Noodle bar reach overlay with pics
Also, if you run aero levers on the 'stache bars they provide another hand position that extends beyond the front of the curve. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Hoffsta tonguetwis...@gmail.com wrote: I think you're going to like the Mustache. I have them on my commuter and really enjoy them. Contrary to conventional advice, I use a pretty long stem and run them lower than my saddle. I move my hands all over those things and appreciate the variety of hand positions compared to the Albatross bars I have on another bike. Sean H Eugene OR On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 5:53:33 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: This is a current stock Riv road NITTO 'stache as of March, 2013. I also have an old 'stache and it is pretty much the same. There are other brands of 'staches, and maybe they are longer reach. I think there was/is a NITTO mountain version of this bar, too. Maybe that has a different reach. I think it will be fun to try other styles of bars. I am used to drops, so I am looking forward to trying moustache and Albatross bars to see how they feel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?
Isn't the budget Atlantis already pretty much available in a wide range of sizes in the form of the Surly LHT? I love Rivendell's and all but I'm just making a legitimate observation. Shaun Meehan On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:39 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Yes! I was think Hillborne as the budget Atlantis. Brain and fingers don't always work in concert. On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:59:31 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: I think the Hunq is more the budget Atlantis than Bomb? Quote from the Hunq's page: Our most extravagant, screw-the-expense bike was the off-roady Bombadil, and the Hunqapillar is a budgetated version of that bike—only slightly short-cutted to make it a lot more affordable and barely less heavy duty than it’s much more expensive big brother. FWIW.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe Super Motos -- anyone?
As part of my job, I quote the cost of manufactured parts (injection molded thermoplastic parts/assemblies) to OEM's. I think Philip is correct in that the materials often times make-up a pretty small portion of the price of a manufactured part. When a company is purchasing elastomer resin, adhesive, Kevlar fabric, etc. in the quantities that Schwalbe and Dunlop do, they're getting a really good price on the materials. My guess is that if the manufacturing process and labor is similar between a motorcycle and a bicycle tire, the cost to the manufacturer for producing them probably isn't drastically different. I've been very satisfied with every Schwalbe tire I've tried and I've tried some cheapies that were crap. I can't think of a tire that's even come close to lasting as long as the Marathon Supremes that I have on my Long Haul Trucker. So yeah, $85 is relatively pricey for a tire; but if I were interested in the Super Motos, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a pair. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Recommend me a Rando bar please.
It's hard to make a recommendation. We already know there's something the matter with you for not liking the Noodle. It's kind of like the old addage: Either you like bacon, or you're wrong. Shaun Meehan On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: What's your favorite and why? I think they look neat, hope they work better for me than the 44 noodle I have (feels a bit wide) and want to try one when the wallet allows. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qnduZvTsRkEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person
Orange. Absolutely. Shaun still-waiting-for-Grandpa's-Pine-Tar-Brown Meehan On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: So my Bombadil is taking a short trip over to the Color Factory in Waretown. Even though thier prices seem scarily low Bruce was awesome on the phone so I am gonna take the leap soon. The only issue is I have never gotten a re-spray and I am having angina over which color is most appropriate for the twin TT bomba. I wanted something metallic, maybe a dark purple or a soft orange, as you can see I am worlds apart even in my own mind. Anyone have any pics of thier bombadil they can share so I can play off some ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: First RBW visit
Grant, you have to understand that Jim is a free spirit that cannot be tethered. Happy New Year to both of you and to all of the folks at RBW. As well as to all of my friends on this list. I hope 2013 is fantastic for all of you! Shaun Meehan On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 9:55 PM, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: JIM! You left about two minutes before I was ready for you. Shoot---I had a mtg and was looking forward to aaarrrgh. I'm out of the area tomorrow for 8 days. You're going riding with Manny? Good luck. He delights in underestimating the gruel factor. He talks the whole time. Shoots great pictures. I wish I were going. Did you ride the Appa? On Monday, December 31, 2012 5:35:53 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: After about 9 years of being a Riv fan/rider/dealer, I made my first visit to Riv today. I walked into the showroom, and there is Grant sitting at a table in the middle of the room having an intense discussion with a Frenchish sorta man who I presume to be Yves Gomez. Unfortunately Grant wasn't available to chitchat, but Mark and Brian invited me in for coffee and to talk shop. What a great bunch! Brian gave me some instruction about where to camp in the Diablo foothills nearby. Surely I bungled his directions, but I think I found a pretty good spot on the top of a big hill. The view is nice, but the sun just set, and it's getting chilly. I guess I'll set up my tent. Happy new year everybody! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/nBRpP2g60dsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-country visit
Jim, Based on the fact that you said you're bringing your best mud bike, I can only conclude that you've elected to bring the Pugsley on the trip to the Bay Area? If so, that's an interesting choice to be certain. Or do you consider one of your other bikes to be better in the mud than the Pug? Shaun On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Dan McNamara djmcnam...@gmail.com wrote: I would be up for a Diablo ride on New Year's Day. Or any Mt. Tam adventures. Hmmm. Need to test the ankle and make sure it is ready. Maybe it won't rain this weekend. Dan Marin On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:16 AM, EastBayGuy goodwin...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in for Mt.D NYD... Dustin Goodwin WC Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mpvR-32RSYUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Midwest Riv and Country Bike Rally 2013
Thanks for putting the date out there in advance like this Jim. I'm going to plan on attending. I'll be riding either my LHT or my Ogre. I love the idea of riding the Almazo course (or some variation thereof) as a two-day route. That's a beautiful ride! Shaun Meehan On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Also, no Riv required. A country bike, however you define it, of any brand will suffice. I assume there'll be various Surly LHTs and such. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7svd1axPFV8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Winter Shoe Recommendations?
Hi All, I'm looking for some recommendations for winter riding shoes or boots. For just plain old platform style pedals, not clipless SPD pedals. And by winter I mean cold weather. Not West Coast cold (which we refer to as chilly in these parts) but Minnesota cold. Something that will keep my feet dry and warm down to zero degrees Fahrenheit and below. Right now I'm using Tioga Surefoot and Spyder pedals on my two most ridden bikes (if it makes a difference). And in warmer weather I typically ride in Adidas Samba Millenniums or Keen sandals. Any recommendations are appreciated. Thanks! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Paul, Frost River, Nitto, Selle Anatomica, etc.
The brakes, bag, saddle, and Cane Creek levers were all snapped up really quick. Sorry for the delayed response. I had multiple responses for some of these items and I responded directly to those who were first to respond. So, if you didn't get a direct reply from me, someone else spoke first. I've still got the Nitto lugged stem and the delicious Modolo composite levers. Make an offer if you're interested in these items. Thanks! Shaun On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, I've got some things that I don't use anymore that I'd like to unload. 1. Paul Touring Cantilevers. Full set (front and rear). Silver. Very good condition. Salmon pads. Extra o-rings. $125 2. Frost River Gunflint Trail transverse saddle bag (shameless copy of the Baggins Adam). Well used. No holes or stains but weathered and dirty. All straps in good condition. Great bag! $120 3. Nitto Lugged Stem. 12cm. As new. $150 4. Selle Anatomica Saddle. Honey. Clydesdale version. Watershed leather. Well used. Nearly fully tensioned. $50 5. Cane Creek SCR-5 Aero Levers. Gum Hoods. Used but very good condition. $20 6. Modolo Composite (i.e. plastic) Areo Levers. Black. NOS. A bit of shop wear. $50 All prices include shipping (whatever's cheapest) in the Continental USA. Feel free to make an offer on any of this stuff. Pictures can be seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/shaun_meehan/ Please contact me off-list if you're interested or if you have questions. Thanks! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Paul, Frost River, Nitto, Selle Anatomica, etc.
Hi All, I've got some things that I don't use anymore that I'd like to unload. 1. Paul Touring Cantilevers. Full set (front and rear). Silver. Very good condition. Salmon pads. Extra o-rings. $125 2. Frost River Gunflint Trail transverse saddle bag (shameless copy of the Baggins Adam). Well used. No holes or stains but weathered and dirty. All straps in good condition. Great bag! $120 3. Nitto Lugged Stem. 12cm. As new. $150 4. Selle Anatomica Saddle. Honey. Clydesdale version. Watershed leather. Well used. Nearly fully tensioned. $50 5. Cane Creek SCR-5 Aero Levers. Gum Hoods. Used but very good condition. $20 6. Modolo Composite (i.e. plastic) Areo Levers. Black. NOS. A bit of shop wear. $50 All prices include shipping (whatever's cheapest) in the Continental USA. Feel free to make an offer on any of this stuff. Pictures can be seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/shaun_meehan/ Please contact me off-list if you're interested or if you have questions. Thanks! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Brake Installation Experience
Hi all! It's been awhile since I've posted to the list. I recently decided to sell my Atlantis frame and fork, and I replaced it with a Long Haul Trucker. I had an experience when I was building up the LHT tonight that I wanted to share, because I know this list includes a lot of steadfast cantilever devotees. After I got the fenders, wheels, bar and stem installed; I went to install my Paul Touring Canti brakes. These are among the best and easiest-to-install cantilevers that I've ever used. Still there was considerable fiddling about getting them set up. I installed the levers and went to wire up the brakes when I realized I didn't have a font cable hanger for a 9/8 steerer tube. Ugh! Figured I'd have to pick one up sometime this week. It then occurred to me that I had a perfectly good set of linear pulls along with a set of long-pull, Dia-Compe aero levers stashed away somewhere. If I use those, I don't need a hanger at all. This is a Surly not a Rivendell so I shouldn't be subject to too much ridicule for using linear pulls. So I somewhat reluctantly removed the Pauls and dug out the linear pulls (Avid Magnesium Single Digits) and long-pull levers. I was in the process of installing the front V-brake when I realized I was done! I literally laughed aloud! It's been a long time since I've used linear pulls and I forgot how easy they are to set up. I installed the lever and cable and did a spin-and-grab test and the brake felt solid with good power on the first try with no messing around. Now I remember why I felt like it was weird going back to (what I considered to be) archaic cantilevers when I got into the Rivendell world. I didn't see a single picture of a Riv with linear pulls when I bought the Atlantis, so I figured, when in Rome Anyway I've got a set of silver Paul Touring Cantis that I'm going to list for sale once I take a few pictures. Complete with straddle cables, mounting hardware, and I think some spare o-rings. Although, I recommend that you don't buy them and that you get yourself a snappy set of linear pulls! I'll list the brakes in a separate post once I take some pictures. I've got some additional parts I'm going to sell too. Cheers! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Brake Installation Experience
I'm also a fan of the threadless headset and stem set-up. I had the Atlantis repainted a couple of years ago and asked the painter (who is also a very proficient frame builder) to convert it to 1 threadless; but he wasn't able to find a long enough threadless steerer for the Atlantis (68cm). And I didn't want to spend the money to have one custom made. The reason I sold the Atlantis is because, from my perspective, it was a little too precious and refined for the type of riding I've been doing the last several years. I've been riding a lot of gravel, often in adverse conditions. And I found I didn't deal well with such a gorgeous frame getting beat up by that type of riding. That, and this year Surly introduced the LHT in a 64cm, along with the Ogre, which is available in a 24 frame size. The sale of the Atlantis frame and fork funded the purchase of the LHT frameset plus a good portion of a complete Ogre (custom build). I loved the Atlantis! It's a fantastic bike. I just couldn't deal with the beating it was taking. Especially after the repaint! And now I've got the Ogre for gravel riding and the LHT for commuting and pavement rides. Shaun On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:23 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Yes, one is amazed when one first sets up Vs -- so easy! Like threadless stems in this regard. That said, the best (= wide profile) cantis I've used, properly set up, match the Vs in power and modulate better. Ditto compared to wire pulled disks. But they ain't as easy to install! 2. Atlantis, considered the ne plus ultra of all rounders, for a Surley? What gives? Why? Pray explain. On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! It's been awhile since I've posted to the list. I recently decided to sell my Atlantis frame and fork, and I replaced it with a Long Haul Trucker. I had an experience when I was building up the LHT tonight that I wanted to share, because I know this list includes a lot of steadfast cantilever devotees. After I got the fenders, wheels, bar and stem installed; I went to install my Paul Touring Canti brakes. These are among the best and easiest-to-install cantilevers that I've ever used. Still there was considerable fiddling about getting them set up. I installed the levers and went to wire up the brakes when I realized I didn't have a font cable hanger for a 9/8 steerer tube. Ugh! Figured I'd have to pick one up sometime this week. It then occurred to me that I had a perfectly good set of linear pulls along with a set of long-pull, Dia-Compe aero levers stashed away somewhere. If I use those, I don't need a hanger at all. This is a Surly not a Rivendell so I shouldn't be subject to too much ridicule for using linear pulls. So I somewhat reluctantly removed the Pauls and dug out the linear pulls (Avid Magnesium Single Digits) and long-pull levers. I was in the process of installing the front V-brake when I realized I was done! I literally laughed aloud! It's been a long time since I've used linear pulls and I forgot how easy they are to set up. I installed the lever and cable and did a spin-and-grab test and the brake felt solid with good power on the first try with no messing around. Now I remember why I felt like it was weird going back to (what I considered to be) archaic cantilevers when I got into the Rivendell world. I didn't see a single picture of a Riv with linear pulls when I bought the Atlantis, so I figured, when in Rome Anyway I've got a set of silver Paul Touring Cantis that I'm going to list for sale once I take a few pictures. Complete with straddle cables, mounting hardware, and I think some spare o-rings. Although, I recommend that you don't buy them and that you get yourself a snappy set of linear pulls! I'll list the brakes in a separate post once I take some pictures. I've got some additional parts I'm going to sell too. Cheers! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http
[RBW] FS: 68cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/HS
Hi all, Please excuse me for cross-posting. I've decided to sell my 68cm Atlantis frameset. I purchased it in 2007 and it's a Toyo built unit with the rounded lugs. It's been well used but I had it repainted by a local frame builder, Chris Kvale, two years ago. I've experienced multiple instances of chainsuck since the repaint during some muddy gravel rides, so there's some damage to the drive-side chainstay as a result, including a small dent. I repainted the area myself using touch-up paint that Chris provided but it needs to be touched up again. My intent was to have Chris touch it up before I sold it but he can't get to it until fall on account of his workload, so I'm selling it as is. Functionally it's 100%. It's a nice burnt orange color with sort of a khaki tan on the headtube, lug windows, etc. It's also got the fancy headbadge that Riv offers on it. Aside from the chainstay damage, it's in really nice shape. There are other nicks and scratches but they're pretty minor. There's also a pinch mark in the paint from the front derailleur clamp. It's got the stock Ultegra headset. Of course, tall folks know that Riv doesn't offer the 68cm Atlantis anymore. So this is a chance for someone to get their hands on one. I've posted some pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/shaun_meehan/ I'm asking $1,400. Feel free to make me an offer if you think that's unreasonable. Please contact me off-list with questions if you're interested. Thanks, Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally midwest and Grant's visit and other bike stuff to do in Minneapolis at that time
I plan to be there for the book event. I assume you'll have plenty of copies of Grant's book for sale Jim? I don't know about the ride yet. I'm going to try to make some portion of it at least... Shaun Meehan On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: No discussion on this, but I've received a couple emails from people who asked about this, and thought I might move it to the top of the feed for a few minutes. I've heard from a handful of out-of-towners who are coming in for the Grant book thing and/or for the Riv Rally. And I've heard from a few HC customers who'll be there. And my usual adventure buddies, of course. But honestly, I have no idea if it'll be 15 people or 150! Either way, getting all of us together to ride bikes is going to be a special thing. On Monday, April 23, 2012 12:47:16 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: We managed to schedule Grant's book-signing visit for May 31 at Hiawatha Cyclery in Minneapolis, MN, which dovetails nicely into the Midwest Riv rally that begins the following day, June 1 in Red Wing, MN. It's going to be a solid 4-5 days of Riv-ish bike fun. And you're invited! Here's some detail. Thursday, May 31. I believe the book-signing is scheduled for 6-7:30 PM. I'm going to provide grilled sausages/burgers and/or pulled pork and fancy beer and probably have potluck for the rest. I'm aiming to feed 50 mouths, but maybe 100, who knows! Come by the shop starting around 4-5 pm, and be hungry and ready to talk bikes and look at bikes and ride around on bikes. By pure coincidence, local bike company Salsa Cycles is sponsoring a film at nearby Riverview Theater the same evening. http://revealthepath.com/ I would have hated to miss this, but there is a 9pm showing for the film. We can do the book signing thing with Grant, then anybody who's interested can ride over to the theater (which is an old-timey neighborhood movie theater, not a modern shopping mall cineplex). If past experience is an indicator, attending bike films at the Riverview with several hundred Minneapolis bike nuts and bike industry types will be really, really fun. Seriously, this is going to be a spectacular evening for bike people. Friday, June 1: I'll be leaving in the morning to ride down to Red Wing to meet and greet out-of-towners who are joining the Midwest Riv Rally. You can ride down with me if you want to. The ride to Red Wing is about 65 miles. This meet-and-greet will be an informal sort of thing, but I imagine we'll ride around, eat, drink, be merry, and then scatter off to our respective accommodations. The natural focal point for meeting up in Red Wing will be Bay Point Park. Again, this part is highly unofficial and not at all choreographed. Go to the park, and look for people on nice bikes, and then hang out with them. I'm planning to roll in around 3-4 PM, but that really depends on who rides with me and how fast we go. Saturday, June 2: Meet at Bay Point Park around 8 am. We'll try to ride out around 9 am down the Wisconsin side of Lake Pepin. Expect 50-60 glorious low-traffic miles of mixed terrain, some hills, some gravel, some pavement, perhaps a modest water crossing (or three). There are cafes and pie shops along the route so we don't need to pack much food. Do not ask me how fast the ride will be, please. I simply don't know, and don't care. It's my opinion that the group should stick together. The fast guys and gals can wait for us slowpokes at the tops of hills and at intersections. Everybody should feel free to stop to snap photos, take a breather, slow down, walk up the hills, etc. I don't plan to provide maps or cue sheets for various reasons, but mostly so we don't get too focused on the route and so that the fast people don't turn it into a race. When we get to Wabasha, I'll have camping arranged, but there's at least one hotel there for those who don't care to camp. You're on your own for hotel reservations. At this time, I don't plan to have any support vehicle, so you'll have to carry your own gear or convince someone else to carry it for you. Maybe one of you has a spouse or friend or relative who'd like to be involved but who doesn't want to ride a bike? If so, maybe you could volunteer that person to provide a support vehicle? But my default is no support vehicle, just so we're all prepared. To be clear, my default is no support of any kind. Just a friendly ride, and if something bad happens, we'll figure out how best to handle it. Sunday, June 3: Much like the previous day, except in Minnesota. We'll roll out of Wabasha around 9 am and follow a mixed terrain route, mostly paved, but some gravel, some hills, somewhat more traffic. When we get back to Red Wing, the ride/rally will end. Depending on the time, weather, and mood, I will either look for accommodations for the night in Red Wing, or start riding back to Minneapolis. I'm
Re: [RBW] Re: Sugestions for rain proofing Brooks saddles
After trying a lot of different methods of waterproofing leather saddles, I finally found a method that's absolutely, 100% effective. And the best part is, it simultaneously completely eliminates squeaking, and further saddle maintenance.You simply remove the leather saddle, and replace it with a plastic one. Voila! Shaun Meehan On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Shifty 1upand1d...@gmail.com wrote: Great suggestions, everyone. I'm getting a Randi Jo based on Pudge's comments but also because I like to support fellow sole-proprietor's, see his website: http://www.randijofab.com. The B17 on my fenderless mountain bike will benefit the most but also my Hisen during Minnesota deluges, typical on any given day. Keep the rubber side down! Sean (Shifty) On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:42:43 AM UTC-5, Beth H wrote: Citybikes in Portland has been carrying some neat saddle covers made locally, sold under the name Chicken Scraps. They run around $30 and they seem pretty tough. I'm still using the old Carradice cover that has been patched and seam-sealeda couple of times (I don't want to toss it!), and with a plastic bag underneath there are no problems. Beth H in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/l7FUBRMp-BUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis
I guess I can see why one might not want to put the 2X10 SRAM drivetrain on a Riv for aesthetic reasons. But from a purely functional standpoint, I concur with Jim's assessment of this set-up. I recently bought a Surly Ogre from Jim (Hiawatha Cyclery) and went with the 2X10 set-up on Jim's recommendation after seeing it on his Goodrich at the shop. The gear range is great and it shifts perfectly. I love it! Shaun Meehan On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Somewhat unorthodox suggestion, but the smoothest shifting drivetrain I've ever owned or even heard about has been the SRAM X.9 2x10 kit recently installed on my Curt Goodrich (formerly I had the same group on a Redline mountain bike). The way the chainrings are ramped on the x.9 crank is a thing of beauty, but forget about swapping out other rings. My crank is a 42/28, but a 39/26 is also available. I have an 11-36 cassette, which makes for a near perfect gear range. You'll probably maybe have to use a non-SRAM front derailleur for tire/fender clearance reasons. Of course the SRAM stuff is all black, smoky gray, or maybe white, which is what makes it unorthodox for a Riv. But if you can get over the color issue, it's awesome. On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:25:06 PM UTC-5, sanjoser wrote: hello everyone I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 years or so. different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc. I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. I've been advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced every six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for change. This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to explain that to this group. So, what 's the consensus? best regards tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rR5cVruCxpcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Say NO to Internet censorship
I have yet to meet a single person that openly supports this legislation. So I'm assuming that a vast majority of The People are opposed it. I think the fact that politicians have authored and sponsor it (in spite of this fact) illustrates one of the most heinous problems with politics in America. That is, they're obviously prepared to set aside the desires of their constituents in favor of political agendas. Why do we stand for it? Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally midwest?
I've ridden that area with Jim in the past and it's a great ride. I'll come as long as I'm in town that weekend. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] If a 72 cm frame isn't big enough...
That thing's got Bob Martin's name all over it Jim! Have you told him about it? Shaun Meehan On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 2:50 PM, nawr...@comcast.net wrote: Now there would be a good use for a TRIPLE top tube, use it like a ladder! Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO -- *From: *William tapebu...@gmail.com *To: *rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent: *Friday, September 9, 2011 11:59:09 AM *Subject: *Re: [RBW] If a 72 cm frame isn't big enough... I wonder if a dexterous small guy could actually climb INTO the main triangle, ducking under the top tube, reach way over his head to the bars and ride it. That would be EPIC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/OxhvqT6_cWoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)
Gernot, I am equally baffled. I've got a pair of those cable hangers on my Atlantis and I removed those screws. Mostly out of spite. Shaun Meehan On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Just installed my second pair of these lovely bargains from Riv, and am once again flumoxed by the seemingly superfluous fat philips-headed screw on the straddle wire hanger. The two tiny allen headed screws are to arrest straddle wire movement, okay. Why do you need the third screw? I just looked at the Tektro site (http://tinyurl.com/4xd38ta) and it seems they are using the fat philips screw as a resting place for the loose end of the main brake cable. Is that its one and only intended purpose? Seems like a strange raison d'etre for a screw, but I guess it works. Any other thoughts on what it's for? Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Job Opening, Shipping Department.
I have no doubt that RBW is a great place to work. And I can't believe that we're dissecting the job posting on the e-mail list. From observing the packaging work on my own orders from RBW, I can attest to the fact that it's artistry. On more than one occasion I've received my order from RBW thinking that some of the items that I ordered must be on back order because the package is so small. Only to find that all of the items were indeed there, but just packaged with supreme efficiency. Shaun Meehan On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:39 PM, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: Below I said: It's not good place to work. I started to write It's not a bad place to work but tried to restate it more accurately and positively as, It's a good place to work, and lo and behold, I didn't backspace enough. I hope y'all can understand a mistake like that and not get all Freudiananalytical ...it really IS a good placeI think! B, Grant and thanks to Joe for liking the packing. On Aug 8, 8:04 pm, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: We have a job to fill. It's a specific job. If somebody gets the job and leaves it, we're back to SqOne and have to find,hire, and train again. To outsiders, maybe shipping is a low-totem pole job, and EVERYthing is a stepping stone. Not that way here. If we don't ship, you don't get your goods. If we don't ship on time, we lose business and may go out of business. Everybody here is in awe of our current shipping department, super proud, and if every area of the business worked as well as shipping does, we'd be doing better. Robert is here for life. He has a respect for packing and shipping that few if any people can relate to. Unless you work here and see how it all goes together, you have no idea of the level of professionalism and care that he puts into his work. That's not your fault. You just aren't priveleged enough to see it happen the way it happens every day...unless you work here. For somebody to treat their job alongside him as an entry level job and a stepping stone to what they see as bigger or more important or more glamorous jobs is an insult to Robert and shows a gross misunderstanding of how we want the postion to be treated, and of the respect we accord it, ourselves. We will always need two shippers, at least. We are looking for somebody special, and it's tough. It's easy to find outa workers who will grasp at anything that starts at $25K plus benefits---and I understand that. I'd do it myself, if I were out of work. But in this case, that's not getting it. We're looking for somebody who, like Vaughn, can come here and be the last link in a long chain of commerce that keeps us all employed and allows us to do whateveritis that we do. We're getting a steady flow of applicants who say stuff like, I love your ethic, your philosophy, what you stand for. I spend hours on your site, I love the fight you fight, I've been a fan for years, I dig you up he wazoo.. but they haven't even bought a bar of pine tar soap from us...so how into us can they be, how MUCH of us can they know, if they've never tiptoed over the line and actually used the stuff? It's not a big deal.ultimately we'll hire a goody, and I hope they'll stick around. It's not good place to work. John's excellent job description was intended to weed out those who really don't want to ship, and really do think after a year they'll have a window office. There are (literally) no windows here, and the shippers work closer to the rollup doors than anybody. Wish us luck, that is all. Don't want to make this any more public, but in the past we've found some good guys through blog + forum posts, so we thought we'd try again. G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: S36O Minnesota to Wisconsin
Hey Eric! It was a fantastic time and I'll definitely be going again next year (schedule permitting). I didn't take any pictures, so I appreciate you sharing them. It was a pleasure to hang out with you and the rest of the group for the weekend. If any of you have a chance to stop in at Dave's BrewFarm in Wilson, Wisconsin when his tap room is open, I highly recommend it. Dave and his wife Pam are some of the nicest people you will ever meet and they are very gracious hosts. And Dave's beers are superb! Shaun Meehan On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:08 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Strangely enough, this is only showing up on the old Google Groups page. Not the new version. Oh, and thanks to list admin Jim for getting it out of limbo. (Yes, this is just a cheap attempt to see if it will show up in the new groups.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 1, 7:33 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Spent the weekend riding with a bunch of folks from the Twin Cities (Minneapolis and St. Paul, Minnesota) over to Dave's Brewfarm in Wilson, Wisconsin for overnight camping/party. Besides my Sam Hillborne, list member Shaun M. was on his 68cm Atlantis. All in all there were about 20 bikes. Everything from go-fast bikes to Jim Thill's frankentandem to a really fast rider on a Salsa Mukluk(!) Round trip was between 110 and 120 miles. Actual speed was quite modest for some of us. Both to savor the scenery and because it was hot and (extremely) humid both days. Most riders took advantage of friends driving over or the official sag wagon to haul camping gear and extra food. To say we ate like royalty at the destination is an understatement. Oh, and yes, there was quite a bit of excellent beer to be had as well. At least for those of us who do not mind imbibing in that liquid. One of the highlights for myself was sitting around with some other folks and playing music. Didn't bring an instrument along, but one of the other musicians let me use both her guitar and ukulele. We were able to jam on a couple of tunes. Believe me, playing a solo on an unfamiliar tune on a ukulele is not easy. Great fun, though. And she did a nice job of backup on banjo while I flatpicked a couple of tunes that were not familiar to her. Also want to give a public thanks to Grant. In an e-mail exchange a little while ago he recommended the Eureka Spitfire tent. This was my first experience with it and it's a winner. Lots of room to hold me and gear and still room to stretch out or sit up. Easiest clothing change in a tent I've had in ages. And the tent withstood the storm that developed that evening. Again, great tent. Some photos here -http://tinyurl.com/3hjnlzx Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Bombadil Complete!
Wow! Great looking bike! Enjoy your new ride. Shaun Meehan On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: After a long stretch of travel and parts gathering/swapping, my Bombadil is on the road. What a perfect bike! Smooth, stable, comfortable, capable. The Bullmoose bars easily beat out the Noodle and Albatross set-ups I tried, and the B67 beat out the B17 Champion Flyer. Nothing not to like! I'd like to try Big Apples next, and then there's the inevitable bag-matching debate. For now, I'm simply thrilled to be on the road. Here's a link to my Flickr set, and one to a quick walkaround movie if you can't wait. *http://tinyurl.com/3fzmr7d* * * Movie here: * * *http://tinyurl.com/3n33wav * * * Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XFVfy-mxtJUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior!
Good on you Liesl! I'm in the Twin Cities area, and I too opted out of my normal (~30 mile round trip) bike commute yesterday on account of the miserable conditions. Not only did you ride, you chased down and foiled the bad guy. You rock! Shaun Meehan On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I see you, I see your tattoo, walk away. Who talks like that? That was *bad. Ass.* Joe well, do you feel lucky..punk? Bernard Fairfield, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jyxJ4lj70ugJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update
I guess I don't really take Grant's comment that this is the kind of bike guys who buy $6,000 carbon frames should've gotten as an assertion that RBW is marketing the bike to that guy. I take it more as a commentary on the fact that many of the guys who buy those bikes would be much better off with a bike like the Amos. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Japanese Atlantis vs Wisconsin Waterford Atlantis
I wasn't aware that the remaining Toyo Atlantii were snapped up in the manner described when Grant first made it known that they would no longer be produced by Toyo. But I do recall some speculation that the end of the Toyo Atlantis may be the End of The Atlantis. So that might explain why the remaining ones quickly sold out. I agree with what others have said in that, despite subtle differences, neither is superior to the other. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 68cm Rambouillet on the way!
You have the finest collection of tall guy bikes that I'm aware of Clif. You'll have to let us know how the Rambouillet compares to your other bikes. Enjoy! Shaun On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:35 AM, AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com wrote: It's almost there .. !!! On Mar 11, 11:35 am, Bill Lucas wheelslu...@gmail.com wrote: This is a great bicycle. I have one in 64cm. Enjoy! Bill On Mar 11, 7:54 am, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Austin, TX, United States 03/11/2011 7:49 A.M. Out For Delivery !!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Worst Selling Superstars
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:34 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Does the stubby fit a larger head? Would get one, but in my last conversation with Rivendell they didn't believe it would fit. Ended up with an AHH hat that fits well although it rides high on my head. For stubby bill caps, nothing comes close to my Filson waxed cotton cap. As to other items - own almost all except the poncho. (Okay, the Splats are my wife's). Either I'm an easy mark, or these items fill a need I can't find someplace else. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN Eric, If you're talking about the cotton stubby (not the wool one) it'll probably fit you. I have a pretty large noggin (~7 3/4) and there's plenty of room to adjust it larger. I also have a Walz wool cap that fits me well and I don't even think it's their largest size. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Worst Selling Superstars
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Dan Abelson d...@abelsons.net wrote: I am a big fan of the cotton stubby. I like the look of the short bill. While the price is a bit high I think it is worth it. Dan Abelson +1. I have an RBW cotton stubby and it's probably my favorite hat to wear in the summer. And it's a good quality hat for $30 in my opinion. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Computers? No computers?
I didn't have a computer on my Atlantis up until last year when I started doing gravel races that require riders to follow the course using queue sheets that are based on specific distances. I never really had a desire to put a computer on the bike before that. I've had them on other bikes in the past and sort of fell into the routine of being a slave to them. But this time I've tried not to let myself go down that road. I just try to use it as a source of information and not to gauge my performance. In some ways I like knowing how far I've gone and how fast I covered the distance, etc. But I'm fine without one too, when I don't need it as a means to navigate. I guess you could say I can take them or leave them. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Blog post about tubing for AHH
I enjoyed the post. I've never really known what kind of tubing my Rivendells were/are made of (Atlantis and Quickbeam). I've had people ask me what kind of tubing is used on my Atlantis and I've had to answer I don't know. That's the same answer I give when someone asks me how much my bike weighs. In both cases, I've never really cared enough to try to make a determination. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question
I have a set of 40h Phil Wood/Velocity Dyad wheels that Jim (Hiawatha Cyclery) built for me last summer on my Atlantis. I've put hundreds of miles on them now; many of which have been on gravel and even a few light trails. These wheels seem completely bomb proof so far. And I'm around 230 pounds these days.They replaced a set of 36h Shimano XT/Sun RhynoLite wheels that I was having spoke breakage issues with. They certainly don't seem excessively heavy and I like the security of having the extra spokes. Plus wheels with lots of spokes look really cool in a rugged sort of way in my opinion. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 1:46 PM, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.comwrote: If it's made here, it's better. Think of everything bad (and there are many things) associated w/ a Taiwanese made product. None of the Atlantis frames have ever been built in Taiwan. At least not that I know of. They've only been built in Japan (by Toyo) and in the United States (by Waterford). Aside from that, I've seen some of the Maxway built frames up close and the quality seems pretty damn good. So I don't know that I would agree that there are inherent problems with Taiwanese made products in the case of the Maxway frames. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 64 cm Bombadil Arrived!
That's a great looking bike! Let us know if you end-up loving, hating, or bring indifferent about the Albatross bars. Enjoy the new ride! How could you not? Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Samuel Hillborne is here!!
Congratulations! What a great Christmas present. Please do post some pictures when you can. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Homer arrived!
Wow! You're sure to get a lot of comments on that one. Not only is it a great looking bike, it's gargantuan. I'm 6'5ish and I ride a 68cm Atlantis. I also used to have a 68cm Quickbeam. Both bikes draw a lot of Whoa! That bike is HUGE! type of remarks. And your bike is even bigger! Enjoy your new ride. Thanks for posting the pictures. Wishing you many happy miles! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Drops or Moustache bars for Atlantis
I've had my Atlantis set-up with both 'stache bars and Noodles. I definitely prefer the Noodles. I like mustache bars a lot too. For short rides in traffic and trail riding I think I might even prefer them to the Noodles. But the Noodles aren't even close to being bad for those things; and they're better for everything else. At least in my opinion. Lots of comfortable hand positions with the Noodles. I've got the 48cm version and the wide flats make it almost like having a flat bar. And the flat section behind the brake hoods is wonderful. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?
I don't disagree with the responses that you've received so far, recommending the Hunqapillar, Bombadil, and Hillborne. Any of those bikes would perform admirably in the conditions you describe and would make great choices. Of those, I'd probably lean towards the Hunq/Bomba for the increased tire clearance. Anyway, I just wanted to add that the tried-and-true Atlantis would work every bit as well under those conditions. It seems like it's sort of being overshadowed by the newer crop of bikes that Rivendell is offering. The Atlantis is still a great bike! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks, Banjo Brothers, Nitto, Shimano
Brooks saddle and Nitto seatpost have been sold. Bag and brake levers are still available. Thanks to everyone who responded for their interest. Shaun Meehan On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: I have some Riv-ish bits that I'm selling to help fund the repaint of my Atlantis. Prices include shipping within lower 48. Pictures can be seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/shaun_meehan/ Brooks B17 Champion Special: British Racing Green, used with some patina, still quite hard, lots of life left, includes partial can of Proofhide and chamois thing - $75 Banjo Brothers medium handlebar bag: used but in excellent condition - $20 Shimano Tiagra brake levers: Used but in excellent condition, minor cosmetic blemishes - $35 Nitto Crystal Fellow Seatpost: 27.2, used but in excellent condition, only very minor cosmetic blemishes - $45 Please reply off-list if you're interested. Thanks! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Correct Way to Measure Extension on Technomic Deluxe
I'm trying to determine the extension length on the Nitto Technomic Deluxe that I removed from my Atlantis. I was of the understanding that it's a 12cm extension but the lugged stem that I got to replace it looks slightly longer and it's a 12cm. Do you measure from the center of the quill to the center of the handlebar clamp along the extension? Or? Thanks! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Correct Way to Measure Extension on Technomic Deluxe
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:49 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Since you have both stems on hand, you should be able to fit them both side by side on a handlebar, line up the quill parts parallel and settle it once and for all. __ I can, of course, measure the two and determine the difference. The problem is I'm not certain what the specified extension on the Techno Deluxe is. I trust that the lugged stem is a 12cm because I just bought it from RBW and it was labeled as such. I bought the Techno Deluxe when I bought my Atlantis frame and IIRC, I ordered a 12cm. When I hold them side-by-side the lugged stem looks a little longer. I'd like to verify that the TD is indeed a 12cm because I'd like to sell it and I don't want to sell someone a 11cm stem that I've advertised as a 12cm. I looked and I didn't see the extension length stamped on the stem. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Correct Way to Measure Extension on Technomic Deluxe
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:23 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Well then all you want to do is determine the right name of your TechDLX, so you can sell it correctly. Right? The bike I have in the cubicle now has an 11cm TechDLX and it measures a true 110mm, center to center, laying my metric ruler flat along the top line of the stem. My Nitto Pearl, which is also called an 11, measures more like 113mm by the same method. Perhaps your lugged Nitto runs long like the Pearl and is really 123mm or so? So I think what you are doing is deciding if you should sell your TechDLX as a 12 or an 11. My 11 really measures 11. There is no way I could convince myself that this TechDLX is either a 10 or a 12. It's definitely an 11. It sounds to me that your TechDLX is most likely a 12 and you are finding that the lugged 12 runs a touch longer than the TechDLX 12. Is that possible? Yes. Correct. I'm trying to determine the correct extension (as specified by Nitto/RBW) for my TechDLX. Thanks for your help William. I'll measure my TechDLX in the manner you described when I get home and see what I come up with. It is quite possible that they're both 12cm and the lugged stems run a little longer. But it's also possible that I've got an 11cm TechDLX and I'm erroneously remembering it as a 12cm. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Brooks, Banjo Brothers, Nitto, Shimano
I have some Riv-ish bits that I'm selling to help fund the repaint of my Atlantis. Prices include shipping within lower 48. Pictures can be seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/shaun_meehan/ Brooks B17 Champion Special: British Racing Green, used with some patina, still quite hard, lots of life left, includes partial can of Proofhide and chamois thing - $75 Banjo Brothers medium handlebar bag: used but in excellent condition - $20 Shimano Tiagra brake levers: Used but in excellent condition, minor cosmetic blemishes - $35 Nitto Crystal Fellow Seatpost: 27.2, used but in excellent condition, only very minor cosmetic blemishes - $45 Please reply off-list if you're interested. Thanks! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Filed down Sugino XD2
I'm going along with those who are saying they'd bolt those cranks on and ride. Back in the early 90's I had a Cook Bros. crankset that wouldn't quite clear the big square chainstays on my Mountain Klein. I took them to work and and had a machinist there take almost 1/4 of material off the inside of each arm so they'd clear. Never had a problem with the cranks. Finally retired the frame (after having a crack in the seat tube repaired) when the dropouts were completely beat out by the axles. Once you bolt them on you'll probably never think about them again. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Top Rack R14 Nigel Smith Big Loafer
Bag and rack are sold. Lots of quick responses! Thank you all for your interest. Shaun Meehan On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm selling these because I'm using other bags/racks and these are just sitting around. Nitto Top Rack R14, used but in excellent condition: $75 Nigel Smith Big Loafer, older style blue tweed, also used but in excellent condition, brass has some discoloration: $60 Pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/shaun_meehan/ Prices include shipping if it's within the lower 48. Please e-mail me if you're interested. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Nitto Top Rack R14 Nigel Smith Big Loafer
Hi all, I'm selling these because I'm using other bags/racks and these are just sitting around. Nitto Top Rack R14, used but in excellent condition: $75 Nigel Smith Big Loafer, older style blue tweed, also used but in excellent condition, brass has some discoloration: $60 Pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/shaun_meehan/ Prices include shipping if it's within the lower 48. Please e-mail me if you're interested. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: What's your winter project?
I'm having my Atlantis repainted this winter. The original paint is still in pretty good shape for the most part; other than minor scratches all over it and a fairly significant ding/dent/gouge in the top tube. But I've never been a huge fan of the stock 'lantis color (although it has grown on me some). I'm having the repaint done by Chris Kvale (a local frame builder) and while I'm at it, I'm going to have him add mid-fork and mid-seat-stay rack braze-ons. And in a distinctly non-Rivish move, I'm seriously thinking about having him replace the threaded steerer with a threadless one. I just like the threadless set-up a whole lot better and I found a TIG welded stem tby Chris Kelly that would work perfectly. In fact, I could have it painted to match. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: 2 Long Sleeve Wool shirts (green) -- XXXL
Adam, I'll take both of those shirts if they're not already spoken for. Thanks, Shaun Meehan On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Adam Kimball adamfkimb...@gmail.com wrote: I have two of the long-sleeve wool shirts purveyed by Rivendell. They are green and I'd call them medium-weight. The size is XXXL (that is three-XL) but don't let that fool you. I'd say they fit like XXL and so does Grant if you read his spiel. They've been worn very little and have 99% of their life in front of them. Always washed with care, never tumble dried. Originally $65. Oh yea, they are Aussie wool. Moss color sounds right - read about them on rivbike. I'll take $40 each - or $70 for both. Plus $7 shipping. Best, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Getting Ready for Winter
I ran mustache bars on my Quickbeam almost the whole time I had it. Overall, I prefer the noodles but I like the 'stache bars a lot too. The 'stache bars are better (IMO) for trails, etc. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Good bike to ride, after a war.
Is it a play on the lyric good car to drive after a war from Dylan's Talkin' World War III Blues Shaun Meehan On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:01 PM, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: This may go into the filed of failed fun experiments. Yes, Ian Dixon was the poster who came up with it, but that's not the answer. Ian knows the answer--where HE got it from. So do Briola, Bright, Beebe, Chan, and Jew (his last name, by the way), Spindel.. The answer is the source of Ian's post-title. He didn't just make up, Good bike to ride, after a war. Nottalotta time left.Small stakes, nail it soon or take this minor defeat with Grace (she got it wrong, too). Extended time to 3pm California time. Den dat's it. G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Good bike to ride, after a war.
I'm not sure if my answer was correct (i.e. was the inspiration for the thread title). But after reading Grant's first post, wherein he issued the challenge, I'm pretty sure I shouldn't have posted my answer to the list. Oops! Sorry if I spoiled the contest. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Good bike to ride, after a war.
Great looking bike! I like the grey/orange combination. The Hunqapillar looks like an über-versatile bicycle. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Wonderful Antidote
That's very inspirational! I'd Ride with Jack Thacker any day! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTT: My Tioga Surefoot 8 pedals for your Tioga Spyders
Maybe a long-shot. I've got a set of Tioga Surefoot 8 platform pedals that I like okay but I think I'd prefer the bigger platform of the Spyders. If you've got Spyders and think you'd like something a bit smaller, maybe you'd be interested in swapping. My Surefoots are silver and in excellent condition. I don't care about the color but it would be nice if the Spyders are in similar condition. Contact me off-list if you're interested. Thanks! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grant doesn't TOTALLY discount the value of TT length
But I do like spices! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Online Readers
Thanks Jim! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Online Readers
Hi all, Does anyone know if Jim (or anyone else) has put the links to the online Rivendell Readers (pdf files) in one place for easy accessibility? I'm behind in my Reader reading and looking for the links. Thanks! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos
Looks great! You really take some fantastic bike pictures. I love that Hillborne orange. I've been riding a Surly Pacer quite a bit lately, and it's equipped with Shimano Tiagra brifters. It's the first brifter equipped bike that I've ridden in a long time. I know it's sort of sacrilege on this list, but I really like the brifters a lot. They're super ergonomic and they shift perfectly (at least for now). What kind of bar tape did you use on the Hillborne? Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot Build is Coming Along
Wow! Sounds like it's going to be a fantastic bike. And I would say that it's pretty exciting that Bob has essentially told you that he's going to build you the most awesome bike he's ever built. Being in the Twin Cities area, I've seen a couple of his bikes in person and they looked really nice. The anticipation should be as much fun as actually getting the bike. Well... almost. Looking forward to more details and seeing some pictures in the future. Shaun Meehan On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:27 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Will do, on the updates. Full on Rando bike. So far: 1 tubing, Sachs fork crown [possibly change that though, thinking about options there ~would go with one of Bob's custom crowns, but they are too wide for this build], fully lugged [of course], 130mm spacing in the rear, might step into foreign waters and go with a threadless steerer this time around [which of course allows for some neat and inventive legroom for Bob to work some magic up front] and 'yep' to front/rear racks + fenders. No super-fat/no super-narrow tires, just super medium. ;-) Most exciting for me [well, all of it is exciting!]... Bob has asked me, and it makes sense based on our relationship, to let him really fly this solo. We discussed basic details, wants/needs sorta stuff... and past that he said, You trust me, that I know... let me go alone on this. I know what you love, I know what you're aiming for, I know what you've got planned for your next 2-3 years on a bike, and I know what you've accomplished on a bike so far. He pretty much wrapped everything up with 'So, let me build you this bike solo: it'll ride like you cannot imagine, and visually with the little details I've got planned for things, the integration of things, the lug carvings, all of it... well, let's leave it at, it's going to be the most stunning bike I've ever built, period. I couldn't really argue or disagree -on any level- with that kind of plan. Really that's about it for now. Oh, and it's 700c and going to be SS coupled too. -Scott On Jul 15, 8:41 am, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: That's awesome! I'd be excited too. I can't even imagine how much different your measurements must have been this time around. What's your plan for the design of the new bike? Big tire clearance, fenders, racks, etc.? Or something sleeker this time? I hope you'll keep us posted on the progress of the new BB. Shaun Meehan On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:15 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. Bob was just out here, to PDX, for a visit... we discussed the new bike, took measurements [pretty amazing-he brought the measurements from my first fitting 4.5yrs ago, when I weighed 500 pounds, the differences are drastic], and he will be starting on it within a month or so. I am excited... the bike is going to be something else. -Scott On Jul 12, 7:28 pm, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: Great looking bike! Thanks for sharing the pictures. Glad to hear it's working well for you. Did you mention awhile bike that you were having a new custom BB made for you? Shaun Meehan On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 2:41 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: A few more fotos, a few more miles... http://www.flickr.com/photos/30264...@n00/ -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot Build is Coming Along
That's awesome! I'd be excited too. I can't even imagine how much different your measurements must have been this time around. What's your plan for the design of the new bike? Big tire clearance, fenders, racks, etc.? Or something sleeker this time? I hope you'll keep us posted on the progress of the new BB. Shaun Meehan On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:15 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. Bob was just out here, to PDX, for a visit... we discussed the new bike, took measurements [pretty amazing-he brought the measurements from my first fitting 4.5yrs ago, when I weighed 500 pounds, the differences are drastic], and he will be starting on it within a month or so. I am excited... the bike is going to be something else. -Scott On Jul 12, 7:28 pm, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: Great looking bike! Thanks for sharing the pictures. Glad to hear it's working well for you. Did you mention awhile bike that you were having a new custom BB made for you? Shaun Meehan On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 2:41 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: A few more fotos, a few more miles... http://www.flickr.com/photos/30264...@n00/ -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot Build is Coming Along
Great looking bike! Thanks for sharing the pictures. Glad to hear it's working well for you. Did you mention awhile bike that you were having a new custom BB made for you? Shaun Meehan On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 2:41 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: A few more fotos, a few more miles... http://www.flickr.com/photos/30264...@n00/ -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Velcro-ripping sound coming from fender area
I call it fender music. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
