Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Y'know, I do have 2-3 feet of that narrow copper tubing, bought to customize cables for my S3X hubs. Must try it as cable ends; with glue, of course. On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:30 AM, 'clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I am unfamiliar with the

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Good idea; I may try that; thanks -- all the more in that it will look nicer than a crushed cap. I really dislike the appearance of too-big brake cable caps squished down onto skinny derailleur cables. On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Ian A wrote: > Patrick, > > Have you

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-10 Thread brad m
The Jagwire compressionless housing is extremely stiff - I don't think I'd use it for anything other than cable disc brakes, which have fallen out of favor with me anyway. For spiral brake housing, a Dremel cut-off wheel is the final solution. I use the fiber-reinforced one in an overkill

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-09 Thread Bill in Roswell GA
FWIW, a good fine file can sharpen up cable cutters. Use sparingly and know what you're doing (look at some knife/axe sharpening videos). Cable end caps, two methods I really like: silicone adhesive (Shoe Goo being one), dip cable end into glue tube so cable has a glob of glue, slide end cap

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-09 Thread 'clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch
KJ "What is this magical stuff, 'Jag Wire compressionless brake housing??'" OMG!  Thanks so much KJ!  I didn't know it existed. I have wondered why no one made it, but I obviously didn't look hard enough. Now that I do, I will never go back either.   Guess I will retire my diagonal cutters now. 

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-09 Thread Tim O. (Portland, OR)
Thanks, everyone. This is just the feedback I'm looking for. Now I'm getting excited to buy some tools! Cheers, Tim Portland, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-09 Thread Garth
I have the Shimano one for cutting and assorted files to finish the ends if required. Also an wee ol' cool tool that I think is for shoe cobblers that I use to open the cable end if it gets crimped. The wood handle is shaped like a little light bulb with a 4 inch steel pointer. -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-09 Thread Kieran J
Jagwire Pro is the housing, the Park Tool CN-10 is the cutter. After using compressionless brake housing, I will never go back to the traditional spiral stuff. KJ On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 12:30:36 PM UTC-4, Clayton wrote: > > I am unfamiliar with the Jagwire pro housing cutter. It

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-09 Thread 'clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch
I am unfamiliar with the Jagwire pro housing cutter. It won't crush diagonal wound brake housing?  As far as cable caps, I use small diameter copper tubing that I bought at a hobby shop. (I cut a 2" length of brake and sis cable wire and took them into the store to try the fit). To me, copper

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-09 Thread lconley
I always solder the end of the cable and never use end caps. Stainless cable and galvanized cable require different fluxes and solder. I use the Park cutter on both cable and housing and grind the housing flat on the grinder (I used a file for years until I got the grinder). Laing On

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-09 Thread Ian A
Patrick, Have you considered gluing the cable end caps in place? It can work well. I just crimp, normally with really blunt wire cutters, because I haven't yet found a glue that stays fluid in the bottle when left unused. But, with the right technique, one can glue the end caps in place and be

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-09 Thread Kieran J
That's what I was going to say. The Jagwire Pro housing for both brake and shift cuts cleanly and squarely without all this side business. I use the Park tool and one cut, put on the ferrule and that's it. KJ On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 10:19:29 AM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote: > > I've

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-09 Thread Orc
On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 7:59:57 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Next question: what do y'all use to crimp cable ends on the ends of > cables? > Regular wire cutters do pretty well if you're careful; I have a pair of old (and somewhat dull) cutters that I use for zipties, cord, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-09 Thread Patrick Moore
Clayton: can you recommend a pair of dikes? I've always used Park housing/cable cutters (it's a combined tool, meant to cut both) to cut standard housing, and while it does alright, I always have to finish the housing with a file or grinder. Will the dikes cut housing more cleanly? I will have to

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-09 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
> I never use housing cutters to cut cables. Housing cutters are made to > cut SIS housing only. I use a decent quality one I bought at a bike shop. > For brake housing, I use diagonal cutters (dikes, side cutter). I take the > diagonal cutters and make little cuts all the way around the

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-09 Thread Justin, Oakland
I've found just recently that the nicer comlressionless housing from Yokozuna and Jagwire doesn't end up with tha mangled end to the same degree that older housing did. It just takes a quick squeeze and it's back to being perfectly rounded. -Justin -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-09 Thread islaysteve
A Dremel tool is a good investment and I'm always glad that I finally bought one. But I see Bill's point about the hassle of getting it out and setting it up etc. It depends on how you are set up to do shop work. I have a permanent shop and can leave the Dremel out and at the ready most of

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-09 Thread Austin B
I use a pair of Channel Lock End-Cutting pliers (bought at Home Depot) for both cables and housing (and for a bunch of other non-bike stuff like wire fence mesh, pulling nails, etc.). I reshape the hole on the cut end of the housing with a small nail until the cable slides through freely. Not

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-09 Thread Orc
On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 10:18:23 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I'll repeat my tip 'cause I think it got missed: Cutting the housing (Park > cutter) with a scrap piece of cable inside helps keep the end round. A > dental pick to finish it is still a good idea. What I've taken to

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-08 Thread Bill in Roswell GA
FWIW, master mechanics I know use the best cutters available (Park Pro and Felco in equal numbers) and still use a dental pick to round out the housing ends. I have a Dremel and love using it for many jobs. But too much time is wasted pulling it out, attaching the cutting wheel, plugging it

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-08 Thread blakcloud
For cables I use Hozan or Park, they both work well. For housing I use a Dremel with a cut off wheel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-08 Thread Brett Callahan
Hi Tim, I use two cheapo tools I bought on Amazon. I'll try to link to them below, but here's what I've learned: spend a few bucks more. Pedro's tools makes a cable cutter that's widely available for $25 or so that I'm sure is better. My cable cutter works okay, but has started dulling after

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-08 Thread Lee Legrand
Hi Joe, I recommend getting separate cutters for both housing and cables. Get a rotary tool for cutting the housing and a good cable cutter for cables. Using a typical cable cutter closes the metal casing of the housing and does not leave a square edge. In addition, you will need a awl to reopen

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-08 Thread Joe Bernard
I've heard this phrase, "side cutter", for years. What does it look like? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-08 Thread Belopsky
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[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-08 Thread Broccoli Cog
I just replaced a pair of Park CN-10's with a new pair. Mine had become dull from cutting a multitude of other things from cables to zipties. FWIW In order to improve longevity my LBS recommended using the CN-10 for housing only and have a quality side cutter on hand for cables. I would avoid

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-08 Thread Conway Bennett
Get the expensive Shimano one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-08 Thread Joe Bernard
I've had the Park for ages, and my recent Pedro's kit purchase has a cutter. Bike shops use separate tools for housing and inner wire, but I use one cutter for both. The trick when cutting housing is to put a piece of scrap wire in the end to keep the hole round and cut. Then grab a flat file

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

2017-08-08 Thread Bill Lindsay
Park CN-10 and Felco C-3 are classic choices, and should last any home mechanic multiple lifetimes. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 3:10:01 PM UTC-7, Tim O. (Portland, OR) wrote: > > I've been using a cheapo tool to cut cables and housing forever, but it's > always a