Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

I like 'em.  I'm certainly curious if the hanger addition will be 
accompanied with any other spec changes like going from 120-130/132.5/135mm 
rear hub spacing or just as a nice option on the 120mm frame.  I recently 
just found a crack on one of my single speeds reducing my fleet to a Clem 
and two old fixer-upper single speeds.  Apparently the cracked frame may be 
repairable but out of warranty so depending on cost for repair plus some 
potential add-ons that would make the repair more worthwhile I'm thinking 
it may be wiser to hold off and just put that towards an eventual Roaduno 
purchase.  Either way, looking forward to see how these turn out.

On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:20:52 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The "Quickbeam style ends" were shown on Rivs instagram.  It's a plastic 
> prototype, presumably 3d printed.  They are pretty snazzy and consistent 
> with lots of the "design vernacular" Rivendell has been using in the 
> 2020s.  They are hooded, so it's cheaply tiggable, and leaves tons of 
> freedom on angles.  It's got a der hanger in the casting.  It's got some 
> frills, and looks stout.  I'm eager to see them in metal and on a frame.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 7:21:53 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> That sounds about right to me, Eric.  I'm guessing something that is kind 
>> of like a Leo Roadini with cantilever brakes, clearance for 50mm tires and 
>> Quickbeam-style ends.  I hope it has a long front center to avoid TCO.  My 
>> Crust Florida Man has no TCO with 700x50 tires, and I think that's 
>> awesome.  My 58cm Quickbeam has a tiny bit of TCO with a 700x42 front tire, 
>> and it's annoying.  I'd gladly run a 2cm shorter stem with a 2cm longer 
>> front-center and the same HTA.  
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 6:21:39 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> I saw the earlier images, but it’s still not super clear. I’m guessing 
>>> it’s like a long wheelbase-sloping top tube Quickbeam?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 The Roaduno samples are on the boat, at the dock in Oakland this week, 
 so those sample builds will be along soon.  Exciting.

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:08:47 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I think the Gallops are 2023 and they have already gone through two 
> proto stages.  I think Roadunos might be further out than that.
>
> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 11:00:35 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The plan had been that the Prototype Roadunos would be in one of 
>> these Summer Shipments.  I think that the prototype Roadunos maybe were 
>> in 
>> the shipment with the Atlantis' or maybe will be in the next shipment.  
>> Those will be prototypes, so we'll presumably get to see them built up, 
>> and 
>> locals can test ride them.  If there are any final tweaks Riv needs to 
>> make 
>> on the real production Roadunos, they'll find those goofs on the 
>> prototypes.  
>>
>> Then, we'll wait.  I think sometime in early 2023 the production 
>> Roadunos will be buyable by us.  I had been eagerly awaiting the 
>> prototypes 
>> arriving because I am local and was going to give one a test ride.  I 
>> have 
>> managed to acquire a Quickbeam and so I'm not as desperate, but I'm 
>> still 
>> keeping my finger on the pulse.  Folks that are desperate for the 
>> absolute 
>> latest should call Will and ask him.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:16:14 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all, I wanted to revive this old thread to see if any one has 
>>> any new information about when the Roaduno might be released for sale. 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 This excerpt is from the August 6 newsletter. I'll be shocked (but 
 bake in that I tend towards the skeptical) if we see a Roaduno before 
 2023. 

 - The rest of our orders, most of which we placed in September 
 2020, have been pushed back to 2023. We're still waiting to hear for 
 sure 
 what we can get from our other frame maker - so far all they've said 
 is 
 that they'll try their hardest to get us Homers in July '22, but no 
 word 
 yet on Roadunos, Roadinis, and Gus-n-Susies, which they also make. -

 Joe Bernard

 On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey 
 wrote:

> Is there any update on the Roaduno? If there was, I missed it.
>
> ?
>
> M
>
> On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:52:10 PM UTC-5 Philip 
> Williamson wrote:
>
>> How about those 

Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Eric Daume]

It reminds me a lot of the dropout on my old Surly Karate Monkey. Maybe
longer though, it’s hard to tell.

On Tuesday, December 6, 2022, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> The "Quickbeam style ends" were shown on Rivs instagram.  It's a plastic
> prototype, presumably 3d printed.  They are pretty snazzy and consistent
> with lots of the "design vernacular" Rivendell has been using in the
> 2020s.  They are hooded, so it's cheaply tiggable, and leaves tons of
> freedom on angles.  It's got a der hanger in the casting.  It's got some
> frills, and looks stout.  I'm eager to see them in metal and on a frame.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 7:21:53 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> That sounds about right to me, Eric.  I'm guessing something that is kind
>> of like a Leo Roadini with cantilever brakes, clearance for 50mm tires and
>> Quickbeam-style ends.  I hope it has a long front center to avoid TCO.  My
>> Crust Florida Man has no TCO with 700x50 tires, and I think that's
>> awesome.  My 58cm Quickbeam has a tiny bit of TCO with a 700x42 front tire,
>> and it's annoying.  I'd gladly run a 2cm shorter stem with a 2cm longer
>> front-center and the same HTA.
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 6:21:39 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> I saw the earlier images, but it’s still not super clear. I’m guessing
>>> it’s like a long wheelbase-sloping top tube Quickbeam?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 The Roaduno samples are on the boat, at the dock in Oakland this week,
 so those sample builds will be along soon.  Exciting.

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:08:47 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I think the Gallops are 2023 and they have already gone through two
> proto stages.  I think Roadunos might be further out than that.
>
> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 11:00:35 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The plan had been that the Prototype Roadunos would be in one of
>> these Summer Shipments.  I think that the prototype Roadunos maybe were 
>> in
>> the shipment with the Atlantis' or maybe will be in the next shipment.
>> Those will be prototypes, so we'll presumably get to see them built up, 
>> and
>> locals can test ride them.  If there are any final tweaks Riv needs to 
>> make
>> on the real production Roadunos, they'll find those goofs on the
>> prototypes.
>>
>> Then, we'll wait.  I think sometime in early 2023 the production
>> Roadunos will be buyable by us.  I had been eagerly awaiting the 
>> prototypes
>> arriving because I am local and was going to give one a test ride.  I 
>> have
>> managed to acquire a Quickbeam and so I'm not as desperate, but I'm still
>> keeping my finger on the pulse.  Folks that are desperate for the 
>> absolute
>> latest should call Will and ask him.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:16:14 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all, I wanted to revive this old thread to see if any one has
>>> any new information about when the Roaduno might be released for sale.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 This excerpt is from the August 6 newsletter. I'll be shocked (but
 bake in that I tend towards the skeptical) if we see a Roaduno before 
 2023.

 - The rest of our orders, most of which we placed in September
 2020, have been pushed back to 2023. We're still waiting to hear for 
 sure
 what we can get from our other frame maker - so far all they've said is
 that they'll try their hardest to get us Homers in July '22, but no 
 word
 yet on Roadunos, Roadinis, and Gus-n-Susies, which they also make. -

 Joe Bernard

 On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey
 wrote:

> Is there any update on the Roaduno? If there was, I missed it.
>
> ?
>
> M
>
> On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:52:10 PM UTC-5 Philip
> Williamson wrote:
>
>> How about those colors and graphics?? I love them.
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/
>> no-22-december
>> The headbadge is no Rosco Bubbe rocketship, but #2 is quite nice.
>>
>> (Chrome ate my longer post)
>>
>> Philip
>> Santa Rosa, CA
>>
>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:
>>
>>> From today's BLAHG:
>>>
>>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike
>>> (not modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. 
>>> It's not a

Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Bill Lindsay]

The "Quickbeam style ends" were shown on Rivs instagram.  It's a plastic 
prototype, presumably 3d printed.  They are pretty snazzy and consistent 
with lots of the "design vernacular" Rivendell has been using in the 
2020s.  They are hooded, so it's cheaply tiggable, and leaves tons of 
freedom on angles.  It's got a der hanger in the casting.  It's got some 
frills, and looks stout.  I'm eager to see them in metal and on a frame.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 7:21:53 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> That sounds about right to me, Eric.  I'm guessing something that is kind 
> of like a Leo Roadini with cantilever brakes, clearance for 50mm tires and 
> Quickbeam-style ends.  I hope it has a long front center to avoid TCO.  My 
> Crust Florida Man has no TCO with 700x50 tires, and I think that's 
> awesome.  My 58cm Quickbeam has a tiny bit of TCO with a 700x42 front tire, 
> and it's annoying.  I'd gladly run a 2cm shorter stem with a 2cm longer 
> front-center and the same HTA.  
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 6:21:39 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> I saw the earlier images, but it’s still not super clear. I’m guessing 
>> it’s like a long wheelbase-sloping top tube Quickbeam?
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> The Roaduno samples are on the boat, at the dock in Oakland this week, 
>>> so those sample builds will be along soon.  Exciting.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:08:47 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I think the Gallops are 2023 and they have already gone through two 
 proto stages.  I think Roadunos might be further out than that.

 On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 11:00:35 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The plan had been that the Prototype Roadunos would be in one of these 
> Summer Shipments.  I think that the prototype Roadunos maybe were in the 
> shipment with the Atlantis' or maybe will be in the next shipment.  Those 
> will be prototypes, so we'll presumably get to see them built up, and 
> locals can test ride them.  If there are any final tweaks Riv needs to 
> make 
> on the real production Roadunos, they'll find those goofs on the 
> prototypes.  
>
> Then, we'll wait.  I think sometime in early 2023 the production 
> Roadunos will be buyable by us.  I had been eagerly awaiting the 
> prototypes 
> arriving because I am local and was going to give one a test ride.  I 
> have 
> managed to acquire a Quickbeam and so I'm not as desperate, but I'm still 
> keeping my finger on the pulse.  Folks that are desperate for the 
> absolute 
> latest should call Will and ask him.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:16:14 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Hey all, I wanted to revive this old thread to see if any one has any 
>> new information about when the Roaduno might be released for sale. 
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>>
>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> This excerpt is from the August 6 newsletter. I'll be shocked (but 
>>> bake in that I tend towards the skeptical) if we see a Roaduno before 
>>> 2023. 
>>>
>>> - The rest of our orders, most of which we placed in September 2020, 
>>> have been pushed back to 2023. We're still waiting to hear for sure 
>>> what we 
>>> can get from our other frame maker - so far all they've said is that 
>>> they'll try their hardest to get us Homers in July '22, but no word yet 
>>> on 
>>> Roadunos, Roadinis, and Gus-n-Susies, which they also make. -
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Is there any update on the Roaduno? If there was, I missed it.

 ?

 M

 On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:52:10 PM UTC-5 Philip 
 Williamson wrote:

> How about those colors and graphics?? I love them. 
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/no-22-december
> The headbadge is no Rosco Bubbe rocketship, but #2 is quite nice.
>
> (Chrome ate my longer post)
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA 
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:
>
>> From today's BLAHG:
>>
>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not 
>> modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not 
>> a trail 
>> bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of 
>> rude to 
>> ride it on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>>
>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, 
>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Doug H.]

I have not put together a complete bike although I've changed out many 
parts over the years. I think I will begin acquiring parts with the plan to 
build up a Roaduno in 2023. WI freewheel is a no-brainer for me but all the 
other parts are TBD. I agree about TCO Bill. Although manageable to ride I 
prefer a longer front-center for plenty of clearance. Grant seems to be 
designing new bicycles with the utmost concern for comfort and style so I 
don't imagine he would fall short in that detail.

I may put together a parts list to share with the group with the intention 
of getting feedback and advice.
Doug

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 10:21:53 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> That sounds about right to me, Eric.  I'm guessing something that is kind 
> of like a Leo Roadini with cantilever brakes, clearance for 50mm tires and 
> Quickbeam-style ends.  I hope it has a long front center to avoid TCO.  My 
> Crust Florida Man has no TCO with 700x50 tires, and I think that's 
> awesome.  My 58cm Quickbeam has a tiny bit of TCO with a 700x42 front tire, 
> and it's annoying.  I'd gladly run a 2cm shorter stem with a 2cm longer 
> front-center and the same HTA.  
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 6:21:39 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> I saw the earlier images, but it’s still not super clear. I’m guessing 
>> it’s like a long wheelbase-sloping top tube Quickbeam?
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> The Roaduno samples are on the boat, at the dock in Oakland this week, 
>>> so those sample builds will be along soon.  Exciting.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:08:47 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I think the Gallops are 2023 and they have already gone through two 
 proto stages.  I think Roadunos might be further out than that.

 On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 11:00:35 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The plan had been that the Prototype Roadunos would be in one of these 
> Summer Shipments.  I think that the prototype Roadunos maybe were in the 
> shipment with the Atlantis' or maybe will be in the next shipment.  Those 
> will be prototypes, so we'll presumably get to see them built up, and 
> locals can test ride them.  If there are any final tweaks Riv needs to 
> make 
> on the real production Roadunos, they'll find those goofs on the 
> prototypes.  
>
> Then, we'll wait.  I think sometime in early 2023 the production 
> Roadunos will be buyable by us.  I had been eagerly awaiting the 
> prototypes 
> arriving because I am local and was going to give one a test ride.  I 
> have 
> managed to acquire a Quickbeam and so I'm not as desperate, but I'm still 
> keeping my finger on the pulse.  Folks that are desperate for the 
> absolute 
> latest should call Will and ask him.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:16:14 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Hey all, I wanted to revive this old thread to see if any one has any 
>> new information about when the Roaduno might be released for sale. 
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>>
>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> This excerpt is from the August 6 newsletter. I'll be shocked (but 
>>> bake in that I tend towards the skeptical) if we see a Roaduno before 
>>> 2023. 
>>>
>>> - The rest of our orders, most of which we placed in September 2020, 
>>> have been pushed back to 2023. We're still waiting to hear for sure 
>>> what we 
>>> can get from our other frame maker - so far all they've said is that 
>>> they'll try their hardest to get us Homers in July '22, but no word yet 
>>> on 
>>> Roadunos, Roadinis, and Gus-n-Susies, which they also make. -
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Is there any update on the Roaduno? If there was, I missed it.

 ?

 M

 On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:52:10 PM UTC-5 Philip 
 Williamson wrote:

> How about those colors and graphics?? I love them. 
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/no-22-december
> The headbadge is no Rosco Bubbe rocketship, but #2 is quite nice.
>
> (Chrome ate my longer post)
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA 
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:
>
>> From today's BLAHG:
>>
>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not 
>> modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not 
>> a trail 
>> bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of 
>> rude to 
>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Bill Lindsay]

That sounds about right to me, Eric.  I'm guessing something that is kind 
of like a Leo Roadini with cantilever brakes, clearance for 50mm tires and 
Quickbeam-style ends.  I hope it has a long front center to avoid TCO.  My 
Crust Florida Man has no TCO with 700x50 tires, and I think that's 
awesome.  My 58cm Quickbeam has a tiny bit of TCO with a 700x42 front tire, 
and it's annoying.  I'd gladly run a 2cm shorter stem with a 2cm longer 
front-center and the same HTA.  

BL in EC

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 6:21:39 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:

> I saw the earlier images, but it’s still not super clear. I’m guessing 
> it’s like a long wheelbase-sloping top tube Quickbeam?
>
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> The Roaduno samples are on the boat, at the dock in Oakland this week, so 
>> those sample builds will be along soon.  Exciting.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:08:47 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I think the Gallops are 2023 and they have already gone through two 
>>> proto stages.  I think Roadunos might be further out than that.
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 11:00:35 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 The plan had been that the Prototype Roadunos would be in one of these 
 Summer Shipments.  I think that the prototype Roadunos maybe were in the 
 shipment with the Atlantis' or maybe will be in the next shipment.  Those 
 will be prototypes, so we'll presumably get to see them built up, and 
 locals can test ride them.  If there are any final tweaks Riv needs to 
 make 
 on the real production Roadunos, they'll find those goofs on the 
 prototypes.  

 Then, we'll wait.  I think sometime in early 2023 the production 
 Roadunos will be buyable by us.  I had been eagerly awaiting the 
 prototypes 
 arriving because I am local and was going to give one a test ride.  I have 
 managed to acquire a Quickbeam and so I'm not as desperate, but I'm still 
 keeping my finger on the pulse.  Folks that are desperate for the absolute 
 latest should call Will and ask him.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:16:14 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> Hey all, I wanted to revive this old thread to see if any one has any 
> new information about when the Roaduno might be released for sale. 
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> This excerpt is from the August 6 newsletter. I'll be shocked (but 
>> bake in that I tend towards the skeptical) if we see a Roaduno before 
>> 2023. 
>>
>> - The rest of our orders, most of which we placed in September 2020, 
>> have been pushed back to 2023. We're still waiting to hear for sure what 
>> we 
>> can get from our other frame maker - so far all they've said is that 
>> they'll try their hardest to get us Homers in July '22, but no word yet 
>> on 
>> Roadunos, Roadinis, and Gus-n-Susies, which they also make. -
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any update on the Roaduno? If there was, I missed it.
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> M
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:52:10 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 How about those colors and graphics?? I love them. 

 https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/no-22-december
 The headbadge is no Rosco Bubbe rocketship, but #2 is quite nice.

 (Chrome ate my longer post)

 Philip
 Santa Rosa, CA 

 On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:

> From today's BLAHG:
>
> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not 
> modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a 
> trail 
> bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude 
> to 
> ride it on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>
> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, 
> please--sorry but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the 
> name I 
> think the latter is unlikely : (
>
> - Nathan in PDX
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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Eric Daume]

I saw the earlier images, but it’s still not super clear. I’m guessing it’s
like a long wheelbase-sloping top tube Quickbeam?

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> The Roaduno samples are on the boat, at the dock in Oakland this week, so
> those sample builds will be along soon.  Exciting.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:08:47 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I think the Gallops are 2023 and they have already gone through two proto
>> stages.  I think Roadunos might be further out than that.
>>
>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 11:00:35 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> The plan had been that the Prototype Roadunos would be in one of these
>>> Summer Shipments.  I think that the prototype Roadunos maybe were in the
>>> shipment with the Atlantis' or maybe will be in the next shipment.  Those
>>> will be prototypes, so we'll presumably get to see them built up, and
>>> locals can test ride them.  If there are any final tweaks Riv needs to make
>>> on the real production Roadunos, they'll find those goofs on the
>>> prototypes.
>>>
>>> Then, we'll wait.  I think sometime in early 2023 the production
>>> Roadunos will be buyable by us.  I had been eagerly awaiting the prototypes
>>> arriving because I am local and was going to give one a test ride.  I have
>>> managed to acquire a Quickbeam and so I'm not as desperate, but I'm still
>>> keeping my finger on the pulse.  Folks that are desperate for the absolute
>>> latest should call Will and ask him.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:16:14 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Hey all, I wanted to revive this old thread to see if any one has any
 new information about when the Roaduno might be released for sale.
 Thanks,
 Doug

 On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> This excerpt is from the August 6 newsletter. I'll be shocked (but
> bake in that I tend towards the skeptical) if we see a Roaduno before 
> 2023.
>
> - The rest of our orders, most of which we placed in September 2020,
> have been pushed back to 2023. We're still waiting to hear for sure what 
> we
> can get from our other frame maker - so far all they've said is that
> they'll try their hardest to get us Homers in July '22, but no word yet on
> Roadunos, Roadinis, and Gus-n-Susies, which they also make. -
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
>> Is there any update on the Roaduno? If there was, I missed it.
>>
>> ?
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:52:10 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How about those colors and graphics?? I love them.
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/
>>> no-22-december
>>> The headbadge is no Rosco Bubbe rocketship, but #2 is quite nice.
>>>
>>> (Chrome ate my longer post)
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Santa Rosa, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:
>>>
 From today's BLAHG:

 "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not
 modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a 
 trail
 bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude 
 to
 ride it on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."

 Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue,
 please--sorry but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the 
 name I
 think the latter is unlikely : (

 - Nathan in PDX

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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Bones]

Exciting indeed. I will be first in line for the production frames. I 
wonder what the color options will be?

Bones
On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 8:26:50 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The Roaduno samples are on the boat, at the dock in Oakland this week, so 
> those sample builds will be along soon.  Exciting.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:08:47 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I think the Gallops are 2023 and they have already gone through two proto 
>> stages.  I think Roadunos might be further out than that.
>>
>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 11:00:35 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> The plan had been that the Prototype Roadunos would be in one of these 
>>> Summer Shipments.  I think that the prototype Roadunos maybe were in the 
>>> shipment with the Atlantis' or maybe will be in the next shipment.  Those 
>>> will be prototypes, so we'll presumably get to see them built up, and 
>>> locals can test ride them.  If there are any final tweaks Riv needs to make 
>>> on the real production Roadunos, they'll find those goofs on the 
>>> prototypes.  
>>>
>>> Then, we'll wait.  I think sometime in early 2023 the production 
>>> Roadunos will be buyable by us.  I had been eagerly awaiting the prototypes 
>>> arriving because I am local and was going to give one a test ride.  I have 
>>> managed to acquire a Quickbeam and so I'm not as desperate, but I'm still 
>>> keeping my finger on the pulse.  Folks that are desperate for the absolute 
>>> latest should call Will and ask him.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:16:14 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Hey all, I wanted to revive this old thread to see if any one has any 
 new information about when the Roaduno might be released for sale. 
 Thanks,
 Doug

 On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> This excerpt is from the August 6 newsletter. I'll be shocked (but 
> bake in that I tend towards the skeptical) if we see a Roaduno before 
> 2023. 
>
> - The rest of our orders, most of which we placed in September 2020, 
> have been pushed back to 2023. We're still waiting to hear for sure what 
> we 
> can get from our other frame maker - so far all they've said is that 
> they'll try their hardest to get us Homers in July '22, but no word yet 
> on 
> Roadunos, Roadinis, and Gus-n-Susies, which they also make. -
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
>> Is there any update on the Roaduno? If there was, I missed it.
>>
>> ?
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:52:10 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How about those colors and graphics?? I love them. 
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/no-22-december
>>> The headbadge is no Rosco Bubbe rocketship, but #2 is quite nice.
>>>
>>> (Chrome ate my longer post)
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Santa Rosa, CA 
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:
>>>
 From today's BLAHG:

 "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not 
 modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a 
 trail 
 bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude 
 to 
 ride it on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."

 Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, 
 please--sorry but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the 
 name I 
 think the latter is unlikely : (

 - Nathan in PDX

>>>

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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Bill Lindsay]

The Roaduno samples are on the boat, at the dock in Oakland this week, so 
those sample builds will be along soon.  Exciting.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:08:47 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I think the Gallops are 2023 and they have already gone through two proto 
> stages.  I think Roadunos might be further out than that.
>
> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 11:00:35 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The plan had been that the Prototype Roadunos would be in one of these 
>> Summer Shipments.  I think that the prototype Roadunos maybe were in the 
>> shipment with the Atlantis' or maybe will be in the next shipment.  Those 
>> will be prototypes, so we'll presumably get to see them built up, and 
>> locals can test ride them.  If there are any final tweaks Riv needs to make 
>> on the real production Roadunos, they'll find those goofs on the 
>> prototypes.  
>>
>> Then, we'll wait.  I think sometime in early 2023 the production Roadunos 
>> will be buyable by us.  I had been eagerly awaiting the prototypes arriving 
>> because I am local and was going to give one a test ride.  I have managed 
>> to acquire a Quickbeam and so I'm not as desperate, but I'm still keeping 
>> my finger on the pulse.  Folks that are desperate for the absolute latest 
>> should call Will and ask him.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:16:14 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all, I wanted to revive this old thread to see if any one has any 
>>> new information about when the Roaduno might be released for sale. 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 This excerpt is from the August 6 newsletter. I'll be shocked (but bake 
 in that I tend towards the skeptical) if we see a Roaduno before 2023. 

 - The rest of our orders, most of which we placed in September 2020, 
 have been pushed back to 2023. We're still waiting to hear for sure what 
 we 
 can get from our other frame maker - so far all they've said is that 
 they'll try their hardest to get us Homers in July '22, but no word yet on 
 Roadunos, Roadinis, and Gus-n-Susies, which they also make. -

 Joe Bernard

 On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> Is there any update on the Roaduno? If there was, I missed it.
>
> ?
>
> M
>
> On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:52:10 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
> wrote:
>
>> How about those colors and graphics?? I love them. 
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/no-22-december
>> The headbadge is no Rosco Bubbe rocketship, but #2 is quite nice.
>>
>> (Chrome ate my longer post)
>>
>> Philip
>> Santa Rosa, CA 
>>
>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:
>>
>>> From today's BLAHG:
>>>
>>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not 
>>> modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a 
>>> trail 
>>> bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude 
>>> to 
>>> ride it on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>>>
>>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, 
>>> please--sorry but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the 
>>> name I 
>>> think the latter is unlikely : (
>>>
>>> - Nathan in PDX
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Johnny Alien]

I think the Gallops are 2023 and they have already gone through two proto 
stages.  I think Roadunos might be further out than that.

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 11:00:35 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The plan had been that the Prototype Roadunos would be in one of these 
> Summer Shipments.  I think that the prototype Roadunos maybe were in the 
> shipment with the Atlantis' or maybe will be in the next shipment.  Those 
> will be prototypes, so we'll presumably get to see them built up, and 
> locals can test ride them.  If there are any final tweaks Riv needs to make 
> on the real production Roadunos, they'll find those goofs on the 
> prototypes.  
>
> Then, we'll wait.  I think sometime in early 2023 the production Roadunos 
> will be buyable by us.  I had been eagerly awaiting the prototypes arriving 
> because I am local and was going to give one a test ride.  I have managed 
> to acquire a Quickbeam and so I'm not as desperate, but I'm still keeping 
> my finger on the pulse.  Folks that are desperate for the absolute latest 
> should call Will and ask him.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:16:14 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Hey all, I wanted to revive this old thread to see if any one has any new 
>> information about when the Roaduno might be released for sale. 
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>>
>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> This excerpt is from the August 6 newsletter. I'll be shocked (but bake 
>>> in that I tend towards the skeptical) if we see a Roaduno before 2023. 
>>>
>>> - The rest of our orders, most of which we placed in September 2020, 
>>> have been pushed back to 2023. We're still waiting to hear for sure what we 
>>> can get from our other frame maker - so far all they've said is that 
>>> they'll try their hardest to get us Homers in July '22, but no word yet on 
>>> Roadunos, Roadinis, and Gus-n-Susies, which they also make. -
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>>
 Is there any update on the Roaduno? If there was, I missed it.

 ?

 M

 On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:52:10 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
 wrote:

> How about those colors and graphics?? I love them. 
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/no-22-december
> The headbadge is no Rosco Bubbe rocketship, but #2 is quite nice.
>
> (Chrome ate my longer post)
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA 
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:
>
>> From today's BLAHG:
>>
>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not 
>> modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a 
>> trail 
>> bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to 
>> ride it on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>>
>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, 
>> please--sorry but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name 
>> I 
>> think the latter is unlikely : (
>>
>> - Nathan in PDX
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Bill Lindsay]

The plan had been that the Prototype Roadunos would be in one of these 
Summer Shipments.  I think that the prototype Roadunos maybe were in the 
shipment with the Atlantis' or maybe will be in the next shipment.  Those 
will be prototypes, so we'll presumably get to see them built up, and 
locals can test ride them.  If there are any final tweaks Riv needs to make 
on the real production Roadunos, they'll find those goofs on the 
prototypes.  

Then, we'll wait.  I think sometime in early 2023 the production Roadunos 
will be buyable by us.  I had been eagerly awaiting the prototypes arriving 
because I am local and was going to give one a test ride.  I have managed 
to acquire a Quickbeam and so I'm not as desperate, but I'm still keeping 
my finger on the pulse.  Folks that are desperate for the absolute latest 
should call Will and ask him.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:16:14 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> Hey all, I wanted to revive this old thread to see if any one has any new 
> information about when the Roaduno might be released for sale. 
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> This excerpt is from the August 6 newsletter. I'll be shocked (but bake 
>> in that I tend towards the skeptical) if we see a Roaduno before 2023. 
>>
>> - The rest of our orders, most of which we placed in September 2020, have 
>> been pushed back to 2023. We're still waiting to hear for sure what we can 
>> get from our other frame maker - so far all they've said is that they'll 
>> try their hardest to get us Homers in July '22, but no word yet on 
>> Roadunos, Roadinis, and Gus-n-Susies, which they also make. -
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any update on the Roaduno? If there was, I missed it.
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> M
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:52:10 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 How about those colors and graphics?? I love them. 

 https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/no-22-december
 The headbadge is no Rosco Bubbe rocketship, but #2 is quite nice.

 (Chrome ate my longer post)

 Philip
 Santa Rosa, CA 

 On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:

> From today's BLAHG:
>
> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not 
> modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a 
> trail 
> bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to 
> ride it on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>
> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, 
> please--sorry but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name 
> I 
> think the latter is unlikely : (
>
> - Nathan in PDX
>


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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Doug H.]

Hey all, I wanted to revive this old thread to see if any one has any new 
information about when the Roaduno might be released for sale. 
Thanks,
Doug

On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> This excerpt is from the August 6 newsletter. I'll be shocked (but bake in 
> that I tend towards the skeptical) if we see a Roaduno before 2023. 
>
> - The rest of our orders, most of which we placed in September 2020, have 
> been pushed back to 2023. We're still waiting to hear for sure what we can 
> get from our other frame maker - so far all they've said is that they'll 
> try their hardest to get us Homers in July '22, but no word yet on 
> Roadunos, Roadinis, and Gus-n-Susies, which they also make. -
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
>> Is there any update on the Roaduno? If there was, I missed it.
>>
>> ?
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:52:10 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How about those colors and graphics?? I love them. 
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/no-22-december
>>> The headbadge is no Rosco Bubbe rocketship, but #2 is quite nice.
>>>
>>> (Chrome ate my longer post)
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Santa Rosa, CA 
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:
>>>
 From today's BLAHG:

 "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not 
 modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a 
 trail 
 bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to 
 ride it on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."

 Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, 
 please--sorry but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I 
 think the latter is unlikely : (

 - Nathan in PDX

>>>

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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Joe Bernard]

This excerpt is from the August 6 newsletter. I'll be shocked (but bake in 
that I tend towards the skeptical) if we see a Roaduno before 2023. 

- The rest of our orders, most of which we placed in September 2020, have 
been pushed back to 2023. We're still waiting to hear for sure what we can 
get from our other frame maker - so far all they've said is that they'll 
try their hardest to get us Homers in July '22, but no word yet on 
Roadunos, Roadinis, and Gus-n-Susies, which they also make. -

Joe Bernard

On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> Is there any update on the Roaduno? If there was, I missed it.
>
> ?
>
> M
>
> On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:52:10 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:
>
>> How about those colors and graphics?? I love them. 
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/no-22-december
>> The headbadge is no Rosco Bubbe rocketship, but #2 is quite nice.
>>
>> (Chrome ate my longer post)
>>
>> Philip
>> Santa Rosa, CA 
>>
>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:
>>
>>> From today's BLAHG:
>>>
>>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not 
>>> modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail 
>>> bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to 
>>> ride it on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>>>
>>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry 
>>> but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the 
>>> latter is unlikely : (
>>>
>>> - Nathan in PDX
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Michael Morrissey]

Is there any update on the Roaduno? If there was, I missed it.

?

M

On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:52:10 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:

> How about those colors and graphics?? I love them. 
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/no-22-december
> The headbadge is no Rosco Bubbe rocketship, but #2 is quite nice.
>
> (Chrome ate my longer post)
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA 
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:
>
>> From today's BLAHG:
>>
>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not modeled 
>> after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail bike. 
>> You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to ride it 
>> on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>>
>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry 
>> but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the 
>> latter is unlikely : (
>>
>> - Nathan in PDX
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Philip Williamson]

How about those colors and graphics?? I love them. 
https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/no-22-december
The headbadge is no Rosco Bubbe rocketship, but #2 is quite nice.

(Chrome ate my longer post)

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 

On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:

> From today's BLAHG:
>
> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not modeled 
> after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail bike. 
> You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to ride it 
> on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>
> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry 
> but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the 
> latter is unlikely : (
>
> - Nathan in PDX
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Bill Lindsay]

That's dynamite news for you long-leggers!  Start planning your builds!  

If anybody wants to go uber-traditional I have a NIB Dura Ace Track hub, 32 
hole, for $90.  If you want to go strictly fixed, there may be no classier 
hub.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 6:56:35 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Bad news.
> I asked and they said they were cancelling all but the smallest of the 
> singlespeeds because of my incessant badgering. Sorry 61ers, Sorry 57ers. 
> Sorry 59ers, Sorry 57.75ers. No singlespeeds for anybody over 5'4"...
> -Kai 
>
>
>
> JUST KIDDING!!  There's already a 64 planned, and with a 6% sloping 
> toptube it'll be a beast for most anybody.
> Yay!!  
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 5:05:42 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> If you ~100cm PBH folks are serious, I bet you could make it happen.  We 
>> all know Grant knows how to design a 65cm Roaduno.  I'd say the chances are 
>> decent that he already has it.  The only reason Rivendell Bicycle Works 
>> doesn't go 'one size larger' or 'one size smaller' is they don't have the 
>> cash or space to tie up in the inventory.  If you ~100cm PBH folks want to 
>> self-assemble and make it happen, you could definitely make it happen with 
>> dollars.  You'd want to find one really nice and really informed individual 
>> to volunteer to be your spokesperson.  Have that very nice and very 
>> informed person talk with Will, and plan on your group of buyers being 
>> prepared to prepay to the tune of ~$10,000 of Rivendell Gift Certificates.  
>> If your group of tall folks could present Riv with that one nice and smart 
>> spokesperson and $10k of cashflow, then I'd bet your chances would be good 
>> that you could get that 65cm Roaduno to happen.  Prepaying for bikes is a 
>> business model that is keeping Rivendell going.  It's something they are 
>> comfortable with doing, so if you can leverage that to your benefit, it's a 
>> win-win.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 7:25:08 AM UTC-8 psc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> +1, Make that four of us pulling for a larger size.  
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Bad news.
I asked and they said they were cancelling all but the smallest of the 
singlespeeds because of my incessant badgering. Sorry 61ers, Sorry 57ers. 
Sorry 59ers, Sorry 57.75ers. No singlespeeds for anybody over 5'4"...
-Kai 



JUST KIDDING!!  There's already a 64 planned, and with a 6% sloping toptube 
it'll be a beast for most anybody.
Yay!!  


On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 5:05:42 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> If you ~100cm PBH folks are serious, I bet you could make it happen.  We 
> all know Grant knows how to design a 65cm Roaduno.  I'd say the chances are 
> decent that he already has it.  The only reason Rivendell Bicycle Works 
> doesn't go 'one size larger' or 'one size smaller' is they don't have the 
> cash or space to tie up in the inventory.  If you ~100cm PBH folks want to 
> self-assemble and make it happen, you could definitely make it happen with 
> dollars.  You'd want to find one really nice and really informed individual 
> to volunteer to be your spokesperson.  Have that very nice and very 
> informed person talk with Will, and plan on your group of buyers being 
> prepared to prepay to the tune of ~$10,000 of Rivendell Gift Certificates.  
> If your group of tall folks could present Riv with that one nice and smart 
> spokesperson and $10k of cashflow, then I'd bet your chances would be good 
> that you could get that 65cm Roaduno to happen.  Prepaying for bikes is a 
> business model that is keeping Rivendell going.  It's something they are 
> comfortable with doing, so if you can leverage that to your benefit, it's a 
> win-win.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 7:25:08 AM UTC-8 psc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> +1, Make that four of us pulling for a larger size.  
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Berkeleyan]

I'm sorry, it was my bad memory! The R were 45.3 mm across the tread and 
I needed more clearance.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclemoss/7531767556/in/datetaken-public/; 
title="P1030186">https://live.staticflickr.com/7106/7531767556_5a9dd3834f_k.jpg; 
width="2048" height="1370" alt="P1030186">

and I have a picture of their tight fit 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclemoss/7531752382/in/datetaken-public/; 
title="P1030193">https://live.staticflickr.com/8144/7531752382_6ec65a198e_k.jpg; 
width="2048" height="1370" alt="P1030193">

Andrew "losing my marbles" - Berkeley

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 8:08:14 PM UTC-8 Mark Roland wrote:

> I was puzzled by the 38mm R too. Mine are 700 x 43 and I thought that 
> was the only size in 700C?
>
> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 11:05:04 PM UTC-5 Corwin wrote:
>
>> Hi -
>>
>> I admit I have an older [coleman green] Quickbeam. My 38mm Schwalbe 
>> Dureme Supremes fit with room to spare. My Rene Herse 38mm Barlow Pass 
>> tires fit with OODLES of room to spare. I have seen numerous posts and 
>> articles ascribing usage of 44mm tires on Quickbeams. Perhaps your Rock'n 
>> Roads are a little wider (only advertised width I have seen is 43/44mm). Or 
>> maybe my calipers need to be recalibrated.
>>
>> Anyway, I will stick with my Quickbeam.
>>
>> Namaste,
>>
>>
>> Corwin
>>
>> On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 5:58:54 PM UTC-8 Berkeleyan wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, after reading the obscure details on the R1, I stand corrected. 
>>> Despite the shocking shortcoming of its very limited PBH range, it has one 
>>> great advantage over the QB of yore, and THAT is support for wider tires. I 
>>> tried running Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Roads (38mm) on my Orange QB, and they 
>>> just only barely fit. Currently I roll on 38mm Ocean Air Soma C-Lines, 
>>> which fit just fine without fenders. But if the R1 will go well into the 
>>> mid-40's, yes, that is an improvement.
>>>
>>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Mark Roland]

I was puzzled by the 38mm R too. Mine are 700 x 43 and I thought that was 
the only size in 700C?

On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 11:05:04 PM UTC-5 Corwin wrote:

> Hi -
>
> I admit I have an older [coleman green] Quickbeam. My 38mm Schwalbe Dureme 
> Supremes fit with room to spare. My Rene Herse 38mm Barlow Pass tires fit 
> with OODLES of room to spare. I have seen numerous posts and articles 
> ascribing usage of 44mm tires on Quickbeams. Perhaps your Rock'n Roads are 
> a little wider (only advertised width I have seen is 43/44mm). Or maybe my 
> calipers need to be recalibrated.
>
> Anyway, I will stick with my Quickbeam.
>
> Namaste,
>
>
> Corwin
>
> On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 5:58:54 PM UTC-8 Berkeleyan wrote:
>
>> Okay, after reading the obscure details on the R1, I stand corrected. 
>> Despite the shocking shortcoming of its very limited PBH range, it has one 
>> great advantage over the QB of yore, and THAT is support for wider tires. I 
>> tried running Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Roads (38mm) on my Orange QB, and they 
>> just only barely fit. Currently I roll on 38mm Ocean Air Soma C-Lines, 
>> which fit just fine without fenders. But if the R1 will go well into the 
>> mid-40's, yes, that is an improvement.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Corwin]

Hi -

I admit I have an older [coleman green] Quickbeam. My 38mm Schwalbe Dureme 
Supremes fit with room to spare. My Rene Herse 38mm Barlow Pass tires fit 
with OODLES of room to spare. I have seen numerous posts and articles 
ascribing usage of 44mm tires on Quickbeams. Perhaps your Rock'n Roads are 
a little wider (only advertised width I have seen is 43/44mm). Or maybe my 
calipers need to be recalibrated.

Anyway, I will stick with my Quickbeam.

Namaste,


Corwin

On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 5:58:54 PM UTC-8 Berkeleyan wrote:

> Okay, after reading the obscure details on the R1, I stand corrected. 
> Despite the shocking shortcoming of its very limited PBH range, it has one 
> great advantage over the QB of yore, and THAT is support for wider tires. I 
> tried running Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Roads (38mm) on my Orange QB, and they 
> just only barely fit. Currently I roll on 38mm Ocean Air Soma C-Lines, 
> which fit just fine without fenders. But if the R1 will go well into the 
> mid-40's, yes, that is an improvement.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Paul Richardson]

Bill, 

I love the idea.  I remember Grant writing in an email or blahg or 
somewhere, in terms of the business, "We're smaller than you think."  We'd 
really prove that in a lovely way if we realized a larger run of a new 
singlespeed. 

Any tall guys who're serious:  let's talk.

paul
takoma park, md.

On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 12:41:40 AM UTC-5 Sky Coulter wrote:

> My guess would be closer to 1800-2000.
>
> Sky in new west
>
> On Dec 15, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Paul Choi  wrote:
>
> What would this sell for, $1,400 complete?
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:
>
>> From today's BLAHG:
>>
>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not modeled 
>> after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail bike. 
>> You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to ride it 
>> on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>>
>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry 
>> but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the 
>> latter is unlikely : (
>>
>> - Nathan in PDX
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Sky Coulter]

My guess would be closer to 1800-2000.

Sky in new west

> On Dec 15, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Paul Choi  wrote:
> 
> What would this sell for, $1,400 complete?
> 
>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:
>> From today's BLAHG:
>> 
>> "1. RoadUno, a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not modeled after 
>> a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail bike. You can 
>> ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to ride it on hilly 
>> and rough trails. More on it way below."
>> 
>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry but 
>> they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the latter is 
>> unlikely : (
>> 
>> - Nathan in PDX
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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Paul Choi]

What would this sell for, $1,400 complete?

On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:

> From today's BLAHG:
>
> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not modeled 
> after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail bike. 
> You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to ride it 
> on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>
> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry 
> but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the 
> latter is unlikely : (
>
> - Nathan in PDX
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[greenteadrinkers]

Super interesting to see this new single (double?) speed! This past fall, I 
finally had the funds to get my SimpleOne built up for riding here in hilly 
western mass. Here's a link to some images post by my LBS, they put 
together the bar, stem, brake, and fenders (they also built the wheelset). 
The stem is now about two inches lower than pictured.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHdvFFoF-CO/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Scott



On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 5:05:42 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> If you ~100cm PBH folks are serious, I bet you could make it happen.  We 
> all know Grant knows how to design a 65cm Roaduno.  I'd say the chances are 
> decent that he already has it.  The only reason Rivendell Bicycle Works 
> doesn't go 'one size larger' or 'one size smaller' is they don't have the 
> cash or space to tie up in the inventory.  If you ~100cm PBH folks want to 
> self-assemble and make it happen, you could definitely make it happen with 
> dollars.  You'd want to find one really nice and really informed individual 
> to volunteer to be your spokesperson.  Have that very nice and very 
> informed person talk with Will, and plan on your group of buyers being 
> prepared to prepay to the tune of ~$10,000 of Rivendell Gift Certificates.  
> If your group of tall folks could present Riv with that one nice and smart 
> spokesperson and $10k of cashflow, then I'd bet your chances would be good 
> that you could get that 65cm Roaduno to happen.  Prepaying for bikes is a 
> business model that is keeping Rivendell going.  It's something they are 
> comfortable with doing, so if you can leverage that to your benefit, it's a 
> win-win.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 7:25:08 AM UTC-8 psc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> +1, Make that four of us pulling for a larger size.  
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Bill Lindsay]

If you ~100cm PBH folks are serious, I bet you could make it happen.  We 
all know Grant knows how to design a 65cm Roaduno.  I'd say the chances are 
decent that he already has it.  The only reason Rivendell Bicycle Works 
doesn't go 'one size larger' or 'one size smaller' is they don't have the 
cash or space to tie up in the inventory.  If you ~100cm PBH folks want to 
self-assemble and make it happen, you could definitely make it happen with 
dollars.  You'd want to find one really nice and really informed individual 
to volunteer to be your spokesperson.  Have that very nice and very 
informed person talk with Will, and plan on your group of buyers being 
prepared to prepay to the tune of ~$10,000 of Rivendell Gift Certificates.  
If your group of tall folks could present Riv with that one nice and smart 
spokesperson and $10k of cashflow, then I'd bet your chances would be good 
that you could get that 65cm Roaduno to happen.  Prepaying for bikes is a 
business model that is keeping Rivendell going.  It's something they are 
comfortable with doing, so if you can leverage that to your benefit, it's a 
win-win.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 7:25:08 AM UTC-8 psc...@gmail.com wrote:

> +1, Make that four of us pulling for a larger size.  
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

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+1, Make that four of us pulling for a larger size.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Howzabout a 68 Zombiebeam? (if you're familiar with Birdman's 'beam you'll 
know what I mean). I've got two corpses...:)
-Kai
On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 7:03:17 PM UTC-5 Paul Richardson wrote:

> okay, so three of us pulling for the much-larger-than-61cm frameset...is 
> that enough of a critical mass to convince the powers that be?  
>
> barring that, who's holding a 68cm quickbeam and wants to free up room in 
> the stable?
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>
> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 4:40:14 PM UTC-5 Scott Calhoun wrote:
>
>> My Quickbeam is spaced to 130mm and I use the Surly cassette spacer and 
>> cog kit to get a perfect chainline. I like the 130 spacing as I can use any 
>> of my road wheels. Also, I run 43mm Gravel Kings on my QB no problem. I 
>> consider the geometry on my QB near perfect as an all around road bike, and 
>> it is nearly identical to the current (2019 forward) Roadeo geo (72.5 HTA, 
>> 72 STA in size 63cm Roadeo, same as on the 64cm 2006 QB). It'll be 
>> interesting to see how the RoadUno is designed. 
>>
>> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 10:29:47 AM UTC-7 Pete B wrote:
>>
>>> This bike sounds a lot like the Rosco Roads, which used SimpleOne forks, 
>>> but tire clearance with fenders is apparently better . My Rosco Road has 
>>> 130mm rear spacing and I do 700x35 to be on the safe side, but could 
>>> probably do 700x38. The RU is supposed to do 700x45 with fenders. I 
>>> wouldn't have guessed that'd be easy to do with 120mm frame spacing, but 
>>> the Quickbeam probably gets pretty close to that, right? I assume the frame 
>>> is spaced at 120, and not just the hub.
>>>
>>> 120mm frame spacing is desirable because it allows a larger chainring 
>>> (>40t) to be installed with good chainline on a 120mm hub which aren't 
>>> really specialty items. I've done several conversions of 120mm wheels on 
>>> 126mm and 130mm frames using axle spacers to make up the difference. A 120 
>>> fixed or free rear hub dictates chainring choice. You basically have to run 
>>> what will not hit the chainstay while giving good chainline. Often that 
>>> means something smaller than 42t. A 42x15 is a nice combination for just 
>>> riding around, but if you want a bigger gear, you're out of luck. Better to 
>>> go with a bigger front ring like a 44 or a 46 and then you can swap out 
>>> freewheels and cogs to get the combo you want. If you don't care about 
>>> riding fixed, 130mm hub spacing is easy, because you can just use a regular 
>>> road cassette hub and adjust the chainline on the rear wheel using spacer 
>>> kits like the kind Surly makes. Then you can put a bigger chainring on the 
>>> outside of the spider or use a longer BB to get the ring clear of the 
>>> chainstay.
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 10:42:21 AM UTC-5 Christopher Cote wrote:
>>>
 I expect these are sized like the more recent Rivendells such as the 
 Sam Hillborne, etc. The 54cm would be the right size for me, and I would 
 have ridden a 56 or 58cm Quickbeam, for example.

 Chris


 On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 8:58:54 PM UTC-5 Berkeleyan wrote:

> Okay, after reading the obscure details on the R1, I stand corrected. 
> Despite the shocking shortcoming of its very limited PBH range, it has 
> one 
> great advantage over the QB of yore, and THAT is support for wider tires. 
> I 
> tried running Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Roads (38mm) on my Orange QB, and they 
> just only barely fit. Currently I roll on 38mm Ocean Air Soma C-Lines, 
> which fit just fine without fenders. But if the R1 will go well into the 
> mid-40's, yes, that is an improvement.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>


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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Paul Richardson]

okay, so three of us pulling for the much-larger-than-61cm frameset...is 
that enough of a critical mass to convince the powers that be?  

barring that, who's holding a 68cm quickbeam and wants to free up room in 
the stable?

paul
takoma park, md.

On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 4:40:14 PM UTC-5 Scott Calhoun wrote:

> My Quickbeam is spaced to 130mm and I use the Surly cassette spacer and 
> cog kit to get a perfect chainline. I like the 130 spacing as I can use any 
> of my road wheels. Also, I run 43mm Gravel Kings on my QB no problem. I 
> consider the geometry on my QB near perfect as an all around road bike, and 
> it is nearly identical to the current (2019 forward) Roadeo geo (72.5 HTA, 
> 72 STA in size 63cm Roadeo, same as on the 64cm 2006 QB). It'll be 
> interesting to see how the RoadUno is designed. 
>
> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 10:29:47 AM UTC-7 Pete B wrote:
>
>> This bike sounds a lot like the Rosco Roads, which used SimpleOne forks, 
>> but tire clearance with fenders is apparently better . My Rosco Road has 
>> 130mm rear spacing and I do 700x35 to be on the safe side, but could 
>> probably do 700x38. The RU is supposed to do 700x45 with fenders. I 
>> wouldn't have guessed that'd be easy to do with 120mm frame spacing, but 
>> the Quickbeam probably gets pretty close to that, right? I assume the frame 
>> is spaced at 120, and not just the hub.
>>
>> 120mm frame spacing is desirable because it allows a larger chainring 
>> (>40t) to be installed with good chainline on a 120mm hub which aren't 
>> really specialty items. I've done several conversions of 120mm wheels on 
>> 126mm and 130mm frames using axle spacers to make up the difference. A 120 
>> fixed or free rear hub dictates chainring choice. You basically have to run 
>> what will not hit the chainstay while giving good chainline. Often that 
>> means something smaller than 42t. A 42x15 is a nice combination for just 
>> riding around, but if you want a bigger gear, you're out of luck. Better to 
>> go with a bigger front ring like a 44 or a 46 and then you can swap out 
>> freewheels and cogs to get the combo you want. If you don't care about 
>> riding fixed, 130mm hub spacing is easy, because you can just use a regular 
>> road cassette hub and adjust the chainline on the rear wheel using spacer 
>> kits like the kind Surly makes. Then you can put a bigger chainring on the 
>> outside of the spider or use a longer BB to get the ring clear of the 
>> chainstay.
>>
>> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 10:42:21 AM UTC-5 Christopher Cote wrote:
>>
>>> I expect these are sized like the more recent Rivendells such as the Sam 
>>> Hillborne, etc. The 54cm would be the right size for me, and I would have 
>>> ridden a 56 or 58cm Quickbeam, for example.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 8:58:54 PM UTC-5 Berkeleyan wrote:
>>>
 Okay, after reading the obscure details on the R1, I stand corrected. 
 Despite the shocking shortcoming of its very limited PBH range, it has one 
 great advantage over the QB of yore, and THAT is support for wider tires. 
 I 
 tried running Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Roads (38mm) on my Orange QB, and they 
 just only barely fit. Currently I roll on 38mm Ocean Air Soma C-Lines, 
 which fit just fine without fenders. But if the R1 will go well into the 
 mid-40's, yes, that is an improvement.

 - Andrew, Berkeley

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Scott Calhoun]

My Quickbeam is spaced to 130mm and I use the Surly cassette spacer and cog 
kit to get a perfect chainline. I like the 130 spacing as I can use any of 
my road wheels. Also, I run 43mm Gravel Kings on my QB no problem. I 
consider the geometry on my QB near perfect as an all around road bike, and 
it is nearly identical to the current (2019 forward) Roadeo geo (72.5 HTA, 
72 STA in size 63cm Roadeo, same as on the 64cm 2006 QB). It'll be 
interesting to see how the RoadUno is designed. 

On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 10:29:47 AM UTC-7 Pete B wrote:

> This bike sounds a lot like the Rosco Roads, which used SimpleOne forks, 
> but tire clearance with fenders is apparently better . My Rosco Road has 
> 130mm rear spacing and I do 700x35 to be on the safe side, but could 
> probably do 700x38. The RU is supposed to do 700x45 with fenders. I 
> wouldn't have guessed that'd be easy to do with 120mm frame spacing, but 
> the Quickbeam probably gets pretty close to that, right? I assume the frame 
> is spaced at 120, and not just the hub.
>
> 120mm frame spacing is desirable because it allows a larger chainring 
> (>40t) to be installed with good chainline on a 120mm hub which aren't 
> really specialty items. I've done several conversions of 120mm wheels on 
> 126mm and 130mm frames using axle spacers to make up the difference. A 120 
> fixed or free rear hub dictates chainring choice. You basically have to run 
> what will not hit the chainstay while giving good chainline. Often that 
> means something smaller than 42t. A 42x15 is a nice combination for just 
> riding around, but if you want a bigger gear, you're out of luck. Better to 
> go with a bigger front ring like a 44 or a 46 and then you can swap out 
> freewheels and cogs to get the combo you want. If you don't care about 
> riding fixed, 130mm hub spacing is easy, because you can just use a regular 
> road cassette hub and adjust the chainline on the rear wheel using spacer 
> kits like the kind Surly makes. Then you can put a bigger chainring on the 
> outside of the spider or use a longer BB to get the ring clear of the 
> chainstay.
>
> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 10:42:21 AM UTC-5 Christopher Cote wrote:
>
>> I expect these are sized like the more recent Rivendells such as the Sam 
>> Hillborne, etc. The 54cm would be the right size for me, and I would have 
>> ridden a 56 or 58cm Quickbeam, for example.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 8:58:54 PM UTC-5 Berkeleyan wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, after reading the obscure details on the R1, I stand corrected. 
>>> Despite the shocking shortcoming of its very limited PBH range, it has one 
>>> great advantage over the QB of yore, and THAT is support for wider tires. I 
>>> tried running Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Roads (38mm) on my Orange QB, and they 
>>> just only barely fit. Currently I roll on 38mm Ocean Air Soma C-Lines, 
>>> which fit just fine without fenders. But if the R1 will go well into the 
>>> mid-40's, yes, that is an improvement.
>>>
>>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

I had a feeling there must have been some discussion on this one after 
finally catching up with the Blahg and seeing the teasers.  Like Kai I have 
my fingers crossed for a biggie in any color but assume the working text 
from Ian's link confirms it'll get capped at 61cm.  I have a tall 27"/69cm 
1983 Schwinn Traveler built up as if it were a 68cm QB with Chocomoose bars 
and 700x38mm semi-slicks with mid reach front and long reach rear Tektro 
calipers but ideally wish I had something exactly like the described 
RoadUno to fit a bit more rubber plus fenders.  If they don't end up 
surprising us with an upsloping 63cm or 64cm size I'll happily continue 
riding the Schwinn as it is or maybe, eventually, singlespeed my 65cm Clem 
H with Paul Melvin and a Surly cassette cog sitting in my parts box.  
Unfortunately, I haven't had much time for tinkering, and any free moment 
that presents itself I'd prefer to get a few miles of leisure riding vs. 
wrenching, so I'll just keep my fingers crossed for a huge RoadUno in the 
interim and hope I don't miss any announcements because otherwise it checks 
all of my personal boxes so far and I have a mix of parts ready to go.

Brian Cole
Lawrenceville, NJ

On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 12:29:47 PM UTC-5 Pete B wrote:

> This bike sounds a lot like the Rosco Roads, which used SimpleOne forks, 
> but tire clearance with fenders is apparently better . My Rosco Road has 
> 130mm rear spacing and I do 700x35 to be on the safe side, but could 
> probably do 700x38. The RU is supposed to do 700x45 with fenders. I 
> wouldn't have guessed that'd be easy to do with 120mm frame spacing, but 
> the Quickbeam probably gets pretty close to that, right? I assume the frame 
> is spaced at 120, and not just the hub.
>
> 120mm frame spacing is desirable because it allows a larger chainring 
> (>40t) to be installed with good chainline on a 120mm hub which aren't 
> really specialty items. I've done several conversions of 120mm wheels on 
> 126mm and 130mm frames using axle spacers to make up the difference. A 120 
> fixed or free rear hub dictates chainring choice. You basically have to run 
> what will not hit the chainstay while giving good chainline. Often that 
> means something smaller than 42t. A 42x15 is a nice combination for just 
> riding around, but if you want a bigger gear, you're out of luck. Better to 
> go with a bigger front ring like a 44 or a 46 and then you can swap out 
> freewheels and cogs to get the combo you want. If you don't care about 
> riding fixed, 130mm hub spacing is easy, because you can just use a regular 
> road cassette hub and adjust the chainline on the rear wheel using spacer 
> kits like the kind Surly makes. Then you can put a bigger chainring on the 
> outside of the spider or use a longer BB to get the ring clear of the 
> chainstay.
>
> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 10:42:21 AM UTC-5 Christopher Cote wrote:
>
>> I expect these are sized like the more recent Rivendells such as the Sam 
>> Hillborne, etc. The 54cm would be the right size for me, and I would have 
>> ridden a 56 or 58cm Quickbeam, for example.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 8:58:54 PM UTC-5 Berkeleyan wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, after reading the obscure details on the R1, I stand corrected. 
>>> Despite the shocking shortcoming of its very limited PBH range, it has one 
>>> great advantage over the QB of yore, and THAT is support for wider tires. I 
>>> tried running Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Roads (38mm) on my Orange QB, and they 
>>> just only barely fit. Currently I roll on 38mm Ocean Air Soma C-Lines, 
>>> which fit just fine without fenders. But if the R1 will go well into the 
>>> mid-40's, yes, that is an improvement.
>>>
>>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Pete B]

This bike sounds a lot like the Rosco Roads, which used SimpleOne forks, 
but tire clearance with fenders is apparently better . My Rosco Road has 
130mm rear spacing and I do 700x35 to be on the safe side, but could 
probably do 700x38. The RU is supposed to do 700x45 with fenders. I 
wouldn't have guessed that'd be easy to do with 120mm frame spacing, but 
the Quickbeam probably gets pretty close to that, right? I assume the frame 
is spaced at 120, and not just the hub.

120mm frame spacing is desirable because it allows a larger chainring 
(>40t) to be installed with good chainline on a 120mm hub which aren't 
really specialty items. I've done several conversions of 120mm wheels on 
126mm and 130mm frames using axle spacers to make up the difference. A 120 
fixed or free rear hub dictates chainring choice. You basically have to run 
what will not hit the chainstay while giving good chainline. Often that 
means something smaller than 42t. A 42x15 is a nice combination for just 
riding around, but if you want a bigger gear, you're out of luck. Better to 
go with a bigger front ring like a 44 or a 46 and then you can swap out 
freewheels and cogs to get the combo you want. If you don't care about 
riding fixed, 130mm hub spacing is easy, because you can just use a regular 
road cassette hub and adjust the chainline on the rear wheel using spacer 
kits like the kind Surly makes. Then you can put a bigger chainring on the 
outside of the spider or use a longer BB to get the ring clear of the 
chainstay.

On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 10:42:21 AM UTC-5 Christopher Cote wrote:

> I expect these are sized like the more recent Rivendells such as the Sam 
> Hillborne, etc. The 54cm would be the right size for me, and I would have 
> ridden a 56 or 58cm Quickbeam, for example.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 8:58:54 PM UTC-5 Berkeleyan wrote:
>
>> Okay, after reading the obscure details on the R1, I stand corrected. 
>> Despite the shocking shortcoming of its very limited PBH range, it has one 
>> great advantage over the QB of yore, and THAT is support for wider tires. I 
>> tried running Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Roads (38mm) on my Orange QB, and they 
>> just only barely fit. Currently I roll on 38mm Ocean Air Soma C-Lines, 
>> which fit just fine without fenders. But if the R1 will go well into the 
>> mid-40's, yes, that is an improvement.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Christopher Cote]

I expect these are sized like the more recent Rivendells such as the Sam 
Hillborne, etc. The 54cm would be the right size for me, and I would have 
ridden a 56 or 58cm Quickbeam, for example.

Chris


On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 8:58:54 PM UTC-5 Berkeleyan wrote:

> Okay, after reading the obscure details on the R1, I stand corrected. 
> Despite the shocking shortcoming of its very limited PBH range, it has one 
> great advantage over the QB of yore, and THAT is support for wider tires. I 
> tried running Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Roads (38mm) on my Orange QB, and they 
> just only barely fit. Currently I roll on 38mm Ocean Air Soma C-Lines, 
> which fit just fine without fenders. But if the R1 will go well into the 
> mid-40's, yes, that is an improvement.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Berkeleyan]

Okay, after reading the obscure details on the R1, I stand corrected. 
Despite the shocking shortcoming of its very limited PBH range, it has one 
great advantage over the QB of yore, and THAT is support for wider tires. I 
tried running Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Roads (38mm) on my Orange QB, and they 
just only barely fit. Currently I roll on 38mm Ocean Air Soma C-Lines, 
which fit just fine without fenders. But if the R1 will go well into the 
mid-40's, yes, that is an improvement.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Jason Fuller]

To Patrick's point on tubing, I get the sense that today's Rivendell "road" 
tubing is practically yesterday's "mountain bike" tubing.  Looking at the 
CHG's engineering print, for instance, it's a 1.1-0.8-1.1 31.8 downtube and 
0.9 25.4 top tube (ovalized). Not sure on the rear end. But you could build 
a touring bike with that tubing by older standards.  If I were placing a 
bet, it would be that this bike will use the aforementioned tubing that the 
CHG is.   

I love the simplicity of a singlespeed, and how you quickly adapt to just 
pedaling and not thinking about gear changes... but I can't justify one in 
our mountainous region. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Patrick Moore]

I'll be interested to see how this turns out. I'm not captivated by the
name, but I can always put tape over the decals. (*)

I'm curious what tubing they'll use; not that I sweat the numbers, but I
very belatedly (after 25 years of owning Rivendells) discovered that
thickwall OS tubing doesn't work for me as well as normal gauge thinnerwall
tubing (858 531 standard gauge). Also, how big a tire. Me, and I don't
expect to get this, would like a ss road bike that will take true 50s and
ride like a Rivendell, and not be overbuilt. Oh well, I suppose I'll have
to settle for a carbon fiber Monocog 29er (equivalent).

(*) I disapprove of smiley faces on principle, as I do on excessive
earnestness.

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 10:54 PM Nathan F  wrote:

> Interesting points all, and thanks to Ian for linking that (secret? I
> could only find it via search) in-progress webpage. I too am hoping for
> shorter chain stays, Grant comparing it to the Hillborne/Homer is good news
> in that regard. After some further reflection the one thing I'm not a huge
> fan of is the name. Is "Roaduno" supposed to be a play on "Roadini?" Maybe
> it's that any name is going to fall flat when compared to Platypus?
>
> Robert, 120mm is great because of all the existing wheelsets available.
> After the fixie craze a decade a go high-quality track parts are CHEAP.
> Modern rims and spokes built up by a competent mechanic won't have any
> issues. So I think they made the right call there. Not to mention 120mm is
> 10mm lighter than 130mm 
>
> I'm really tempted by this one. A month ago it would've been an easy
> purchase but I acquired a free White eccentric hub the other day and the
> financially prudent thing to do would be to install it on my '18 Hillborne.
> That's not quite as fun though, you know?
> On Friday, 11 December 2020 at 21:29:10 UTC-8 Robert Hakim wrote:
>
>>
>> I’m curious why they went/will go with a 120mm spacing. Correct me if I’m
>> wrong, but it seems like 130 would allow for a larger variety hub options.
>> In theory, wouldn’t a 130mm SS-specific hub have slightly wider flanges
>> thus allowing for a stronger wheel build?
>>
>>
>> -Robert
>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 9:23:32 PM UTC-7 Mike Godwin wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like a Lime Olive one. Single top tube? Probably. Sloping top tube?
>>> yes, since there are only 4 sizes. Rebirth of Roadini? It is a Roadini
>>> version of the canti-Romulous. Long wheelbase? hope not.
>>>
>>> Mike SLO CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 7:08:16 PM UTC-8 robert.har...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Was there a picture I missed? I am super excited as a QB
 ownerclearance for 50s!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 11, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Berkeleyan  wrote:

 

 How will it be different than a QuickBeam? That's more of a rhetorical
 question, maybe just asking what was there to improve on a QB that a R1
 will get right? My 66cm QuickBeam (Orange) already has *adjustable* wheel
 base, is fully lugged, and has proved versatile enough for a loaded S24O, a
 55 mile Brevet, all my local grocery shopping and restaurant dinner takeout
 pickup. I know, it's just the RBW "way" for bike models (apart from
 Atlantis) to have limited runs, frames that carry their cachet for
 years/decades beyond their end-of-run date. I'm  never letting go of my QB,
 but I hope the R1 is an awesome frame that sells like begeezus.

 - Andrew, Berkeley

 p.s. It took me a while to get the new sticker - "nothing" is greater
 than a bicycle!

 On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 5:01:25 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn
 NY wrote:

> Fingers crossed that they'll make a big one...
> ..any color will do
> -Kai
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 6:03:18 PM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>
>> From today's BLAHG:
>>
>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not
>> modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a 
>> trail
>> bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to
>> ride it on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>>
>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue,
>> please--sorry but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name 
>> I
>> think the latter is unlikely : (
>>
>> - Nathan in PDX
>>
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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Just hit the link, 61 for the biggie? sadface.
I too loved my Quickbeams, two 68s. I'd buy more if I could but would 
welcome a brand new slightly tigged Roaduno in a size huge. Sloping tube 64 
might've done it, alas, it isn't meant to be...
Won't be fitting any of those 40 new Roscos either, but will enjoy the 
parade nonetheless
-Kai

On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 8:01:25 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Fingers crossed that they'll make a big one...
> ..any color will do
> -Kai
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 6:03:18 PM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>
>> From today's BLAHG:
>>
>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not modeled 
>> after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail bike. 
>> You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to ride it 
>> on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>>
>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry 
>> but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the 
>> latter is unlikely : (
>>
>> - Nathan in PDX
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Eric Daume]

I think one key thing will be the dropout design. The draft copy says it
can handle a six tooth gap. That's what my Surly Cross Check could do with
careful gear selection, and it's forward facing horizontal dropouts are
much easier to live with than the rear facing track ends of the Quickbeam.

Eric

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 10:08 PM Robert Gardner <
robert.harris.gard...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Was there a picture I missed? I am super excited as a QB
> ownerclearance for 50s!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 11, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Berkeleyan  wrote:
>
> 
> How will it be different than a QuickBeam? That's more of a rhetorical
> question, maybe just asking what was there to improve on a QB that a R1
> will get right? My 66cm QuickBeam (Orange) already has *adjustable* wheel
> base, is fully lugged, and has proved versatile enough for a loaded S24O, a
> 55 mile Brevet, all my local grocery shopping and restaurant dinner takeout
> pickup. I know, it's just the RBW "way" for bike models (apart from
> Atlantis) to have limited runs, frames that carry their cachet for
> years/decades beyond their end-of-run date. I'm  never letting go of my QB,
> but I hope the R1 is an awesome frame that sells like begeezus.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>
> p.s. It took me a while to get the new sticker - "nothing" is greater than
> a bicycle!
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 5:01:25 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
> wrote:
>
>> Fingers crossed that they'll make a big one...
>> ..any color will do
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 6:03:18 PM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>>
>>> From today's BLAHG:
>>>
>>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not
>>> modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail
>>> bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to
>>> ride it on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>>>
>>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry
>>> but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the
>>> latter is unlikely : (
>>>
>>> - Nathan in PDX
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Ian A]

Hi Nathan,

No secret - I just searched "roaduno" using the search (magnifying glass 
icon) on rivbike.com. 

IanA Alberta Canada

On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 10:54:35 PM UTC-7 Nathan F wrote:

> Interesting points all, and thanks to Ian for linking that (secret? I 
> could only find it via search) in-progress webpage. I too am hoping for 
> shorter chain stays, Grant comparing it to the Hillborne/Homer is good news 
> in that regard. After some further reflection the one thing I'm not a huge 
> fan of is the name. Is "Roaduno" supposed to be a play on "Roadini?" Maybe 
> it's that any name is going to fall flat when compared to Platypus?
>
> Robert, 120mm is great because of all the existing wheelsets available. 
> After the fixie craze a decade a go high-quality track parts are CHEAP. 
> Modern rims and spokes built up by a competent mechanic won't have any 
> issues. So I think they made the right call there. Not to mention 120mm is 
> 10mm lighter than 130mm 
>
> I'm really tempted by this one. A month ago it would've been an easy 
> purchase but I acquired a free White eccentric hub the other day and the 
> financially prudent thing to do would be to install it on my '18 Hillborne. 
> That's not quite as fun though, you know? 
> On Friday, 11 December 2020 at 21:29:10 UTC-8 Robert Hakim wrote:
>
>>
>> I’m curious why they went/will go with a 120mm spacing. Correct me if I’m 
>> wrong, but it seems like 130 would allow for a larger variety hub options. 
>> In theory, wouldn’t a 130mm SS-specific hub have slightly wider flanges 
>> thus allowing for a stronger wheel build?
>>
>>
>> -Robert
>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 9:23:32 PM UTC-7 Mike Godwin wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like a Lime Olive one. Single top tube? Probably. Sloping top tube? 
>>> yes, since there are only 4 sizes. Rebirth of Roadini? It is a Roadini 
>>> version of the canti-Romulous. Long wheelbase? hope not. 
>>>
>>> Mike SLO CA 
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 7:08:16 PM UTC-8 robert.har...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Was there a picture I missed? I am super excited as a QB 
 ownerclearance for 50s!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 11, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Berkeleyan  wrote:

 

 How will it be different than a QuickBeam? That's more of a rhetorical 
 question, maybe just asking what was there to improve on a QB that a R1 
 will get right? My 66cm QuickBeam (Orange) already has *adjustable* wheel 
 base, is fully lugged, and has proved versatile enough for a loaded S24O, 
 a 
 55 mile Brevet, all my local grocery shopping and restaurant dinner 
 takeout 
 pickup. I know, it's just the RBW "way" for bike models (apart from 
 Atlantis) to have limited runs, frames that carry their cachet for 
 years/decades beyond their end-of-run date. I'm  never letting go of my 
 QB, 
 but I hope the R1 is an awesome frame that sells like begeezus.

 - Andrew, Berkeley

 p.s. It took me a while to get the new sticker - "nothing" is greater 
 than a bicycle!

 On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 5:01:25 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
 NY wrote:

> Fingers crossed that they'll make a big one...
> ..any color will do
> -Kai
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 6:03:18 PM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>
>> From today's BLAHG:
>>
>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not 
>> modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a 
>> trail 
>> bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to 
>> ride it on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>>
>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, 
>> please--sorry but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name 
>> I 
>> think the latter is unlikely : (
>>
>> - Nathan in PDX
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Nathan F]

Interesting points all, and thanks to Ian for linking that (secret? I could 
only find it via search) in-progress webpage. I too am hoping for shorter 
chain stays, Grant comparing it to the Hillborne/Homer is good news in that 
regard. After some further reflection the one thing I'm not a huge fan of 
is the name. Is "Roaduno" supposed to be a play on "Roadini?" Maybe it's 
that any name is going to fall flat when compared to Platypus?

Robert, 120mm is great because of all the existing wheelsets available. 
After the fixie craze a decade a go high-quality track parts are CHEAP. 
Modern rims and spokes built up by a competent mechanic won't have any 
issues. So I think they made the right call there. Not to mention 120mm is 
10mm lighter than 130mm 

I'm really tempted by this one. A month ago it would've been an easy 
purchase but I acquired a free White eccentric hub the other day and the 
financially prudent thing to do would be to install it on my '18 Hillborne. 
That's not quite as fun though, you know? 
On Friday, 11 December 2020 at 21:29:10 UTC-8 Robert Hakim wrote:

>
> I’m curious why they went/will go with a 120mm spacing. Correct me if I’m 
> wrong, but it seems like 130 would allow for a larger variety hub options. 
> In theory, wouldn’t a 130mm SS-specific hub have slightly wider flanges 
> thus allowing for a stronger wheel build?
>
>
> -Robert
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 9:23:32 PM UTC-7 Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> I'd like a Lime Olive one. Single top tube? Probably. Sloping top tube? 
>> yes, since there are only 4 sizes. Rebirth of Roadini? It is a Roadini 
>> version of the canti-Romulous. Long wheelbase? hope not. 
>>
>> Mike SLO CA 
>>
>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 7:08:16 PM UTC-8 robert.har...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Was there a picture I missed? I am super excited as a QB 
>>> ownerclearance for 50s!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 11, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Berkeleyan  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> How will it be different than a QuickBeam? That's more of a rhetorical 
>>> question, maybe just asking what was there to improve on a QB that a R1 
>>> will get right? My 66cm QuickBeam (Orange) already has *adjustable* wheel 
>>> base, is fully lugged, and has proved versatile enough for a loaded S24O, a 
>>> 55 mile Brevet, all my local grocery shopping and restaurant dinner takeout 
>>> pickup. I know, it's just the RBW "way" for bike models (apart from 
>>> Atlantis) to have limited runs, frames that carry their cachet for 
>>> years/decades beyond their end-of-run date. I'm  never letting go of my QB, 
>>> but I hope the R1 is an awesome frame that sells like begeezus.
>>>
>>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>>
>>> p.s. It took me a while to get the new sticker - "nothing" is greater 
>>> than a bicycle!
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 5:01:25 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Fingers crossed that they'll make a big one...
 ..any color will do
 -Kai

 On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 6:03:18 PM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:

> From today's BLAHG:
>
> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not 
> modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a 
> trail 
> bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to 
> ride it on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>
> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, 
> please--sorry but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name 
> I 
> think the latter is unlikely : (
>
> - Nathan in PDX
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Robert Hakim]

I’m curious why they went/will go with a 120mm spacing. Correct me if I’m 
wrong, but it seems like 130 would allow for a larger variety hub options. 
In theory, wouldn’t a 130mm SS-specific hub have slightly wider flanges 
thus allowing for a stronger wheel build?


-Robert
On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 9:23:32 PM UTC-7 Mike Godwin wrote:

> I'd like a Lime Olive one. Single top tube? Probably. Sloping top tube? 
> yes, since there are only 4 sizes. Rebirth of Roadini? It is a Roadini 
> version of the canti-Romulous. Long wheelbase? hope not. 
>
> Mike SLO CA 
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 7:08:16 PM UTC-8 robert.har...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Was there a picture I missed? I am super excited as a QB 
>> ownerclearance for 50s!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 11, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Berkeleyan  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> How will it be different than a QuickBeam? That's more of a rhetorical 
>> question, maybe just asking what was there to improve on a QB that a R1 
>> will get right? My 66cm QuickBeam (Orange) already has *adjustable* wheel 
>> base, is fully lugged, and has proved versatile enough for a loaded S24O, a 
>> 55 mile Brevet, all my local grocery shopping and restaurant dinner takeout 
>> pickup. I know, it's just the RBW "way" for bike models (apart from 
>> Atlantis) to have limited runs, frames that carry their cachet for 
>> years/decades beyond their end-of-run date. I'm  never letting go of my QB, 
>> but I hope the R1 is an awesome frame that sells like begeezus.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>> p.s. It took me a while to get the new sticker - "nothing" is greater 
>> than a bicycle!
>>
>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 5:01:25 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Fingers crossed that they'll make a big one...
>>> ..any color will do
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 6:03:18 PM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>>>
 From today's BLAHG:

 "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not 
 modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a 
 trail 
 bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to 
 ride it on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."

 Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, 
 please--sorry but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I 
 think the latter is unlikely : (

 - Nathan in PDX

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Mike Godwin]

I'd like a Lime Olive one. Single top tube? Probably. Sloping top tube? 
yes, since there are only 4 sizes. Rebirth of Roadini? It is a Roadini 
version of the canti-Romulous. Long wheelbase? hope not. 

Mike SLO CA 

On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 7:08:16 PM UTC-8 robert.har...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Was there a picture I missed? I am super excited as a QB 
> ownerclearance for 50s!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 11, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Berkeleyan  wrote:
>
> 
>
> How will it be different than a QuickBeam? That's more of a rhetorical 
> question, maybe just asking what was there to improve on a QB that a R1 
> will get right? My 66cm QuickBeam (Orange) already has *adjustable* wheel 
> base, is fully lugged, and has proved versatile enough for a loaded S24O, a 
> 55 mile Brevet, all my local grocery shopping and restaurant dinner takeout 
> pickup. I know, it's just the RBW "way" for bike models (apart from 
> Atlantis) to have limited runs, frames that carry their cachet for 
> years/decades beyond their end-of-run date. I'm  never letting go of my QB, 
> but I hope the R1 is an awesome frame that sells like begeezus.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>
> p.s. It took me a while to get the new sticker - "nothing" is greater than 
> a bicycle!
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 5:01:25 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> Fingers crossed that they'll make a big one...
>> ..any color will do
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 6:03:18 PM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>>
>>> From today's BLAHG:
>>>
>>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not 
>>> modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail 
>>> bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to 
>>> ride it on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>>>
>>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry 
>>> but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the 
>>> latter is unlikely : (
>>>
>>> - Nathan in PDX
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Robert Gardner]

Was there a picture I missed? I am super excited as a QB ownerclearance for 
50s!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 11, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Berkeleyan  wrote:
> 
> 
> How will it be different than a QuickBeam? That's more of a rhetorical 
> question, maybe just asking what was there to improve on a QB that a R1 will 
> get right? My 66cm QuickBeam (Orange) already has *adjustable* wheel base, is 
> fully lugged, and has proved versatile enough for a loaded S24O, a 55 mile 
> Brevet, all my local grocery shopping and restaurant dinner takeout pickup. I 
> know, it's just the RBW "way" for bike models (apart from Atlantis) to have 
> limited runs, frames that carry their cachet for years/decades beyond their 
> end-of-run date. I'm  never letting go of my QB, but I hope the R1 is an 
> awesome frame that sells like begeezus.
> 
> - Andrew, Berkeley
> 
> p.s. It took me a while to get the new sticker - "nothing" is greater than a 
> bicycle!
> 
>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 5:01:25 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>> Fingers crossed that they'll make a big one...
>> ..any color will do
>> -Kai
>> 
>>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 6:03:18 PM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>>> From today's BLAHG:
>>> 
>>> "1. RoadUno, a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not modeled 
>>> after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail bike. 
>>> You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to ride it 
>>> on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>>> 
>>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry 
>>> but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the 
>>> latter is unlikely : (
>>> 
>>> - Nathan in PDX
> 
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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Berkeleyan]

How will it be different than a QuickBeam? That's more of a rhetorical 
question, maybe just asking what was there to improve on a QB that a R1 
will get right? My 66cm QuickBeam (Orange) already has *adjustable* wheel 
base, is fully lugged, and has proved versatile enough for a loaded S24O, a 
55 mile Brevet, all my local grocery shopping and restaurant dinner takeout 
pickup. I know, it's just the RBW "way" for bike models (apart from 
Atlantis) to have limited runs, frames that carry their cachet for 
years/decades beyond their end-of-run date. I'm  never letting go of my QB, 
but I hope the R1 is an awesome frame that sells like begeezus.

- Andrew, Berkeley

p.s. It took me a while to get the new sticker - "nothing" is greater than 
a bicycle!

On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 5:01:25 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Fingers crossed that they'll make a big one...
> ..any color will do
> -Kai
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 6:03:18 PM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>
>> From today's BLAHG:
>>
>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not modeled 
>> after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail bike. 
>> You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to ride it 
>> on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>>
>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry 
>> but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the 
>> latter is unlikely : (
>>
>> - Nathan in PDX
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Fingers crossed that they'll make a big one...
..any color will do
-Kai

On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 6:03:18 PM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:

> From today's BLAHG:
>
> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not modeled 
> after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail bike. 
> You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to ride it 
> on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>
> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry 
> but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the 
> latter is unlikely : (
>
> - Nathan in PDX
>

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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Ian A]

It looks great. So far the colours are more along the lines of green and 
orange/gold which both sound great.  

https://www.rivbike.com/products/roaduno-2021?_pos=2&_sid=2cf69cddb&_ss=r

On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 4:03:18 PM UTC-7 Nathan F wrote:

> From today's BLAHG:
>
> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not modeled 
> after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail bike. 
> You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to ride it 
> on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>
> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry 
> but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the 
> latter is unlikely : (
>
> - Nathan in PDX
>

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