Thanks Doug . I have a homer too for my road miles . I love the ride feel .
So homer like with v brakes for trails and new colors are tempting . I
hover around 165 -175 lbs , so probably Sam can do everything that Atlantis
would for me . When I got introduced to Riv ( I live very close to Riv HQ)
I'm not being critical, just curious. The Sam seems more of an all-rounder
and the Atlantis more of a touring bike? I just bought a Roadini to ride
mostly road miles.
Doug
On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 9:02:15 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
> Nice Atlantis. What are you looking for in a Sam that the
Nice Atlantis. What are you looking for in a Sam that the Atlantis doesn't
provide? They are both great bikes.
Doug
On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 12:01:53 AM UTC-4 atreya...@gmail.com wrote:
> Apologies everybody, didn't mean to spam. But the list let me attach only
> one photo at time. Happy
Apologies everybody, didn't mean to spam. But the list let me attach only
one photo at time. Happy to send more photos over email.
On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:00:39 PM UTC-7 atreya...@gmail.com wrote:
> [image: IMG_0802.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:59:48 PM UTC-7
I was not able to attach all the photos in original resolution. If
interested, please email me for more pics.
On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:26:36 PM UTC-7 atreya...@gmail.com wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I have decided to sell my Atlantis to fund for Sam. I believe that this is
> 2019 model. I am the
Unless I’m mistaken, the “Atlantis 2” is what Grant decided to call it when the Rivendell Atlantis was conceived. This was because the original Atlantis - or “1” for the purposes of this discussion - was a Bridgestone offering.On Nov 10, 2023, at 6:15 PM, dylan green wrote:Thanks everyone. To
Thanks everyone. To build on this, was there any difference in the chainstay lengths between what I guess is considered the 1 and the 2 in question?On Nov 10, 2023, at 3:07 PM, R. Alexis wrote:A Waterford built Rivendell Atlantis will have a distinctive rear frame drop out. I think Henry James
A Waterford built Rivendell Atlantis will have a distinctive rear frame
drop out. I think Henry James rear drop outs. The first Rivendell built
there didn't. Grant has drop outs made specifically for the bikes. Looks
like they went with the Waterford standard ones on the Atlantis. This is at
Look at the serial number on the BB shell. If the serial number wraps around the edge of the shell, it’s probably Waterford. If the number goes across (from L to R), then it’s probably Toyo. Also, Toyo should start with AT.My 2008 Toyo has the ornate, pointy lugs and lots of white detailing. I
The serial number would give you a definitive answer. Or if you’re
concerned about revealing the entire number, just the orientation around
the bb and general letter/number sequence.
On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 2:45:56 PM UTC-8 dylantho...@gmail.com
wrote:
> Hi everyone -
>
> currently
2011 could be Waterford
On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-6 dylantho...@gmail.com
wrote:
> Hi everyone -
>
> currently speaking with a seller of an atlantis 2 - dated 2011. This has
> the cream accent panel on the seat tube. My old atlantis had a 2 but no
> cream accent panel.
+1!
On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 2:39:44 PM UTC-4 cbala...@gmail.com wrote:
> Anyone have a bottle of Testors 2135 they would be willing to part with?
> Can't seem to find any available - if you've got a source, let me know!
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Garth, that's exciting! Enjoy the anticipation and the process; always
another detail to consider isn't there? Thanks so much for the update.
Best,
Rich in ATL
On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 4:43 PM Garth wrote:
> To add another layer to the Atlantis history, does anyone else recall the
> very first
To add another layer to the Atlantis history, does anyone else recall the
very first run of them having longer top tubes ? Not prototypes, they were
the original run. I recall the number 62cm for a top tube for the (I
believe) 64cm frame size, as I was considering buying one in particular
Most of this is coming from (pretty foggy) memory: I believe there are
Wford built Atlantises from a period when Riv had issues sourcing Toyo
frames. At least at the time, WF was using its own proprietary dropouts-
the svelte ones with a curve on the insider triangle, compared to the more
Here's another one showing the curve of the Toyo chainstays well. It has
the same round lugs, which are like the blue and later Rambouillets. That
would make sense, as these were the first two production frames and
contemporaries, both made at Toyo.
One of the difficulties in identifying builder/age is that there were
running changes right from the beginning.
I think you can pretty safely identify the Toyo frames by the shape of the
chainstays. They had a graceful S-shape, with a curve behind the bottom
bracket for tire clearance; then
The OG Atlantis was a production frameset made in Japan by Toyo, based on
the Allrounder, which was first made by Waterford then some other builders
RBW used for a bit. Not sure about lug variations in the Toyo Atlantis,
but other than color and name it is a completely different bike than that
The "2" was on the first Atlantii, to acknowledge that the name had been
used in the past by Bridgestone
I have the old Atlantis page yonder -
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/index.html
There are a few scans of the pertinent flyers.
J
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 11:47:45 AM UTC-7
Is there a place to go to get Atlantis history and updates over the years?
ie, was there a Waterford Atlantis? Atlantis to Atlantis2 was? Did Toyo
produce Atlanti with both the roundy lugs and the pointy lugs? How does
one tell the difference between Toyo, MIT and Wford? etc, etc. Thanks for
Was there ever a Waterford Atlantis? How can one tell the difference
between a Toyo Atlantis and any others? ie, is the 'pointy' lugged
Atlantis Toyo built?
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 4:22:39 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
> I don't have an atlantis - but for a long time rode a
I don't have an atlantis - but for a long time rode a crust romancuer,
which was somewhat based off the old atlantis's. I thought it was the bees
knees for a long time, but never felt right *for me* especially while
trying to use upright bars. It felt amazing with drops however. Due to neck
My 2004 53 cm (54?) Atlantis with 26” wheels features toe overlap and not much room out back with a “fist full of seatpost”, for big baggage. It’s pretty nimble off road snd very stable on. Set up with Albatross, love it. On Apr 27, 2023, at 06:57, 'peech1...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch
I am down to 2 bikes: a 2010 Hillborne and an Atlantis MIT. Both are set
up for upright riding with albatross bars. I love them both. Hillborne
has the "toe clap overlip" (clever huh?) that the MIT doesn't. Both have
their merits with the hill borne seeming to be a zippier ride. MIT is a
Much appreciated, Matthew! Will look at these paints.
Nick
On Monday, April 17, 2023, Matthew Williams
wrote:
> ModelMaster 2135 Interior Blue Green is, as others have noted, known as
> “Soviet Military Interior.” Here are some equivalents/options but I cannot
> vouch for the accuracy of the
Thank you Liz!
Nick
On Monday, April 17, 2023, wrote:
> I posted this question to a model airplane forum and the exact match
> suggestion was Gunze 391 (Mr. Color Interior Turquoise Green).
> If I get any other suggestions I’ll update.
> Liz in Sacramento
>
> On Apr 17, 2023, at 12:06, Luke
Yea! Mr Color 391 is the closest recommend I got from the Rivendellicious
(sic) Facebook group, when I asked over there. I ordered some and will
report back when I get it!
Nick
On Monday, April 17, 2023, wrote:
> I posted this question to a model airplane forum and the exact match
> suggestion
I posted this question to a model airplane forum and the exact match suggestion was Gunze 391 (Mr. Color Interior Turquoise Green).If I get any other suggestions I’ll update. Liz in Sacramento On Apr 17, 2023, at 12:06, Luke Hendrickson wrote:Also interested should anyone know!On Monday, April
Also interested should anyone know!
On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 8:50:46 AM UTC-7 oldandin...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm seeing testors has discontinued their paints, and they had the exact
> match to the Atlantis green color. Does anyone know any alternative
> touch-up paint
Hi,
I share the thoughts of Tom.
I also have both a 51 Toyo Atlantis and a 50 MIT Atlantis.
Although, I have used by Toyo Atlantis during my 2016 TransAm and it
performed well with a fully loaded gears.
My only cons on my Toyo is the toe clip overlap which is annoying for me
specially when
Edit: Anyone with experience riding the Toyo Atlantis, and the Joe
Appaloosa, feel free to chime in. We are very limited on information
throughout the internet
Thanks, Tom, that's quite the garage you have there, and you are quite the
resource! So, are you saying that, for roads and long
You've fallen down a useful & informative rabbit hole.
I have a 58 cm Atlantis that I bought from Rivendell in 2003 (now 20 yo!).
I've used it extensively for loaded touring & it is everything everyone
says. Good handling, versatile, able to carry loads front & rear, etc. I've
done some off
I just picked up a late 2000's Toyo Atlantis and I've ridden some of the
longer chainstay more modern Rivendell frames. The biggest difference I
think would be the chainstays for sure. The ride quality will be in my
opinion vastly different, as the older Riv's had shorter (still longer for
the
I have a toyo atlantis 68 and a few years ago added an mit atlantis
64what I can tell you is that whenever I'm doing an extended road tour
the old toyo remains my go toand I have a 64? appaloosa too. I have
refitted the mit atlantis with bullmoose bars and knobbies and love it for
I'm also at 83.5 / 84 PBH. right on the cusp of 56 & 58 when Toyo was
building them in 2003. I went with the 58 & have been happily riding it
since then. Started out with a 100 mm stem & Nitto Dream bars. A few
years back, I went to swept back bars & a dirt drop stem for a more upright
Nah, your point was understood. This explains why when I ride my friend's
58 Toyo (with the equivalent of Billie bars), it's doable, but just to big
of a frame size to try to shoehorn into my riding style.
Now this discussion has me pondering a search for a 56 Toyo (last thing I
need bc I
Ah dangit, I think I said that backwards.
Shorter version: the original Atlantis was designed with drop/moustaches
bars in mind, the size you need depends a lot on which types of bars you
run. Pullbacks like Bosco or Billie? Go big!
On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:46:45 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard
Well it's all quite subjective and there's so many variables involved,
which is why Grant doesn't like to post geometry charts. According to your
PBH and saddle height numbers you're kinda on the cusp of 53 and 56cm on
that early Atlantis page, and you have to consider that this was still deep
This is good to see but slightly unfortunate. There are a couple beautiful
61 cm Atlantis's for sale but as a 92PBHer, looks like I will indeed need a
64
On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 3:02:33 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ah, Joe the chart you referenced makes much more sense than the
OP what’s your location? If close to Sacramento you’re welcome to ride my 53.
> On Aug 15, 2022, at 11:46, 'Gerard Gunhouse' via RBW Owners Bunch
> wrote:
>
> Not trying add complexity to the topic. I have a 83 PBH and ride a 54.5
> (Toyo) Atlantis I purchased new from Grant back in the
Not trying add complexity to the topic. I have a 83 PBH and ride a 54.5
(Toyo) Atlantis I purchased new from Grant back in the 2002/3 timeframe. I
am not sure how long Rivendell actually made that frame size but for me it
feels like a custom
Cheers
Gunner
On Monday, August 15, 2022 at
I agree, I have well over a fist full of seatpost on my 53 with my 79 PBH.
> On Aug 15, 2022, at 11:02, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Here's an original Toyo sizing chart, this will work with Waterford models,
> too. I'm shorter and would fit a 53, I think you need a 56 in these frames.
>
>> On
Thanks, appreciate it
On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:59:09 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:
> 79pbh, 31 inseam, and I own a 2004 Atlantis in size 53cm.
>
> On Aug 15, 2022, at 09:57, Brian Turner wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm right there with you; 83.5 / 84 PBH, and my saddle height is around
> 72-73cm. From
Thanks, appreciate it
On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:57:06 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm right there with you; 83.5 / 84 PBH, and my saddle height is around
> 72-73cm. From what I've read and seen, you'd probably be a solid 53 on a
> Toyo-built Atlantis. I've ridden a Toyo 58, and
79pbh, 31 inseam, and I own a 2004 Atlantis in size 53cm.
> On Aug 15, 2022, at 09:57, Brian Turner wrote:
>
>
> I'm right there with you; 83.5 / 84 PBH, and my saddle height is around
> 72-73cm. From what I've read and seen, you'd probably be a solid 53 on a
> Toyo-built Atlantis. I've
I'm right there with you; 83.5 / 84 PBH, and my saddle height is around
72-73cm. From what I've read and seen, you'd probably be a solid 53 on a
Toyo-built Atlantis. I've ridden a Toyo 58, and while I found it
comfortable to ride, it was really only because it had skinny tires and
swept-back
Hi, Clark!
I was inspired by your Atlantis reflections but between not having approval
yet for the purchase and despite how absolutely BEAUTIFUL that 59 rainbow
top tubed steel steed is, I decided to heed your size warning. I am 6' with
a 89 PBH same as you, and frequently ride slightly more
On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 3:19 PM Jared Wilson wrote:
> I was trying to figure out much of this same info a couple weeks back, it
> was hard to come up with a definitive timeline based on readily available
> info.
>
> This is why I agree with changing model names when deviating away from the
> bikes
I was trying to figure out much of this same info a couple weeks back, it
was hard to come up with a definitive timeline based on readily available
info.
This is why I agree with changing model names when deviating away from the
bikes original form, it draws a clear line on what's what.
The
That Harris page is interesting. It shows a 58 cm (my size) as having a 59
cm TT. I have a couple of Atlantis brochures from around when I got mine
(2003) that show a 58 with a 58.5 TT. I can understanding rounding 58.5 up
to 59. I just measured mine @ 56 cm or maybe 56.5 cm, center to
I'll check it out Scott.
I just got off the phone with James at Rivendell and we agreed that one of
the largest changes from the first batch of MIT to the current batch of MIT
is that the 56 cm was 650B and the current 55cm is 700c. The first batch of
MIT had a shorter top tube as well making a
The Harris page has the specs on the first batch of Atlantis.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/atlantis.html#tubing
Geometry is a bit different in several of the sizes.
On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 3:46:36 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
> Hugh, I don't know those details but you might find
Doug,
Well that would make sense regarding the number two. I just finished
reading that riv reader pertaining to the Bridgestone ode to Singer Frenchy
bike designed by Mr. Watanabe.
As far as I can tell there was a MIT version after (between) the Waterford
run and the current MIT run. I think
Hugh:
Somewhere I read that the "2" on the seat tube is a reference to the
Rivendell Atlantis being the second use of the name, the first being an
Atlantis made by Bridgestone but never brought to the US.
We need our resident Rivendell archivist (the guy with a garage full) to
comment. My
Joe,
Thanks. Jim's RR's stop at Summer 2000, there's some mention around 2009
but really less than complete historical account of the Atlantis. I feel a
project brewing.
Hugh n LA
On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 12:46 AM Joe Bernard wrote:
> Hugh, I don't know those details but you might find it here.
Hugh, I don't know those details but you might find it here. Cyclofiend
(hosts this list) has a treasure trove of Riv history.
http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/index.html
On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 11:18:25 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
> Joe, I've been wondering about something. Do
Joe, I've been wondering about something. Do you know the timelines for the
various iterations? 1. Toyo 1999-? 2.Waterford and later longish chain
stay iteration Year to 2017? 3. MIT version I believe is 2018- to present.
I remember my 2003 Atlantis had a <2> on the seat tube and recall
Joe,
Op asked and you delivered. Very succinct Sir.
Hugh n LA
On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 11:09:46 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
> Short version, others here will know more details:
>
> Original was built in Japan by Toyo, I believe start year was 1999. Later
> iterations gained
The first version had curvy chain stays (starlight?), steeper head angle
and less rear tire clearance.
2nd version had chain stays with one curve, more tire clearance, and plus
.5 degree on the head angle.
Both were Toyo built.
On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 2:09:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard
David:
If you are looking at a specific bike, the serial number is on the bottom
of the bottom bracket, & will start with "AT..."; followed by some digits.
You may be able to get a clue from the sn. I don't know if Rivendell kept
track of serial numbers especially in the early days. The
Happy to help, man! I've been following the Riv saga from the beginning and
have become increasingly aware that a whole dang lot of time has passed,
and newer converts to these lovely bicycles don't have the institutional
memory of this stuff I carry around in my head. I know stuff!
Joe
Thanks, Joe. You provided exactly what I was looking for: a quick
evolution of *all *Atlantis' over time.
On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 1:14:44 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
> As pertains to the two 53cm bikes on Ebay:
>
> One (with "2" on the seattube) is an early Toyo with pointy lugs. The
As pertains to the two 53cm bikes on Ebay:
One (with "2" on the seattube) is an early Toyo with pointy lugs. The one
Matt at Crust owned is a smaller frame from Taiwan.
I'm 79PBH and could ride the Toyo bike with drops/moustache or the MIT with
pullback bars.
On Wednesday, October 20, 2021
The original poster said he "often find myself digging and digging for
specific info I need"
What specific info do you need? It sounds like you are considering buying
a particular secondhand Atlantis. For that reason you want information
about that bike, not all Atlantis' over all time. Get
Short version, others here will know more details:
Original was built in Japan by Toyo, I believe start year was 1999. Later
iterations gained braze-ons, lost pointy headtube lugs and were built by
Waterford in USA. All of these came with 26" or 700C wheels, all had
mostly-flat toptubes.
Nice score!
I don't know what is best for acquiring parts, but it might help to give
some of your preferences on the parts and it might strike a chord with list
members that they have such a part.
Not to say that you have to say a specific part, but like, wheel size,
brake type etc., like you
Joe,
Do you have photos and prices for these bikes? By my count you're selling
somewhere between 4 and 15 bikes of various types and conditions -- it's
not entirely clear to me which bikes you're actually selling. Taking photos
and making a list with prices might help sell them.
All the
Absolutely one of the new Atlantis. What a great find this little
documentary is. Thanks for sharing
Ahmed
On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 11:30 AM dougP wrote:
> Paint scheme & curved second top tube certainly looks like an Atlantis.
>
> dougP
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:53:21 AM UTC-7
Paint scheme & curved second top tube certainly looks like an Atlantis.
dougP
On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:53:21 AM UTC-7 John G wrote:
> Duh
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTzMPFh73nw
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 1:52:24 PM UTC-4 John G wrote:
>
>> Watching a completely un-bike
Duh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTzMPFh73nw
On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 1:52:24 PM UTC-4 John G wrote:
> Watching a completely un-bike related video on Youtube about the Maryland
> Eastern shore community of San Domingo, I was pleasantly surprised to see
> what I think is an Atlantis
" *I've never been diligent about regreasing my hubs. "*
When I was doing a lot of touring, & getting caught in the rain, I
regreased them every spring. The last few years maybe every other year.
After a while, it became "how long can a pair of hubs last, anyway?" Still
waiting for the
Mark- sweet bikes! Interesting that you switched the Jones for a Clem L.
Doug- Great to hear, I hope my long term experience with the Atlantis is
like yours :) I can't believe you're still on the original Shimano hubs!
How do you maintain them? I've never been diligent about regreasing my hubs.
I think many people who have spent many years trying different bikes and
trying innumerable setups sort all get to this same place. A specialised
bike will just get ridden less and you tend to get on the 'All rounder' for
more rides more often. The idea of bicycles for very specific types of
Clark:
Well done. It sounds like you had plenty of experience before settling in
with the Atlantis, and will get tremendous satisfaction from riding it for
years to come. When you mention not needing more specialized bikes for
various uses, it reminds me of my own experience. I bought an
I spoke with Vince on Friday on my way off the grid into Nevada and camping
on Lake Mojave. Vince said August /September which confirms Andre's
image/post. Although, he also said possibly the end of the year or even
early 2022!?
As to the supply chain debate, it is interesting to reads folks
I still don't know where my Hunqapillar frame was built. I believe it is
from the very first batch (gray/orange) and the brochures I've found state
early Hunq's were built in Taiwan, Japan & Wisconsin. The problem is that
I don't know which brochure (if any) is accurate for mine.
The
Ha! For that level of technical climbing, I use LCG. Lowest common gear.
The gear every bike comes with. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, August 3, 2020 at 1:19:02 PM UTC-6, Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>
> Patrick, I believe you're right, it's a matter of experience. For the
> first few
Patrick, I believe you're right, it's a matter of experience. For the first
few rides descending fast, rough dirt roads it felt strange and unfamiliar
to have the rear end moving around so far behind me. It felt like it was
jumping around. Now I don't even notice that, but I do notice the
Yeah, I can understand that. I, too, would love to own a Susie/Gus, but I
don't do enough trail riding to justify the purchase.
On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 1:18:26 PM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
> Yes, I test rode a Susie and loved it, so I ordered one back in December.
> But I couldn't
Yes, I test rode a Susie and loved it, so I ordered one back in December.
But I couldn't bear to wait, so I ended up with the Atlantis, which is a
much better fit for the riding I do on a daily basis.
On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 12:45 PM S wrote:
> On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 9:16:43 PM UTC-7
"Except for the shorter wheelbase, the Gus/Susie is the bike you describe."
And a brilliant ride. My experience with Gus is the long wheelbase is
rarely to never a detriment, and always an asset. Smooth, better climbing,
better flow. Experience teaches the taking of slightly different curves in
On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 9:16:43 PM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
> If I could ride here regularly I'd prefer a rigid mountain bike. In
> particular, I'd like a bike with wider, knobby tires, much lower standover
> for when I have to hop off, a higher bottom bracket for less pedal strike,
Awesome!
I saw a grey and kidney bean Hunqapillar there 2 weeks ago. It was underneath
me the whole time.
I went up Western States Trail and up The Wall from Squaw Valley to get to the
Rim Trail. Someone on the trail, also on a mountain bike, said to me, “You’re
doing great on that bike.”
Looks like fun riding; the Atlantis looks like it is in its element out
there. It is such a great, versatile bike.
Rigid mtbs are fun and I've found a nice cushy set of grips helps a lot to
smooth out the ride especially when riding over the smaller bumps like
roots and rougher gravel. I have
hello - yes that ebay one for $1k is mine. LMK if you want it cheaper. i
know it's not in great cosmetic condition.
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 11:16:25 PM UTC-7, Dave Brandt wrote:
>
> Not mine but hope someone from the group can get it.
>
>
Ah, you're right. This explains why the Ebay one is scrapey but very little
rust.
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I think these are 2 separate atlanti. The one on eBay is Adam/Adom’s I believe.
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Well THAT'S weird.
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Looks like this is now on eBay as a frameset for $1,000
It is my size, and I have to resist a good deal on a Riv just for the sake of
the deal. I just sold a MIT Atlantis frame!
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I think it’s your size
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I liked it better at $800, which is where it was a few days ago. But I don't
like rust...
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I also am pretty sure its a toyo from those first couple of years (no
midfork eyelets). i agree that rust could be bad, but thats more a question
of how much you hate rust. i don't like rust, so i'd probably buy a kiddie
pool and soak it in white vinegar for a couple days. 1k seems like a
I do not think the rust is all that bad -- superficial, IMHO.
The bike is clearly not, as claimed, a 2018 Atlantis -- it is older --
looks like an early 2000s Toyo bike to me. Seller says it is a 53cm. The
seller also says they're the second owner, that they paid between $1.2 and
$1.5k for it
If you go friction it doesn't matter. You don't have to lock yourself into
a specific cassette. That being said, 7 speed cassettes are still sold
cheap and plenty by Shimano. If you want higher end, you can just cobble
together your own cassette. Grand Bois still does 6 speed cassettes.
The
Thanks everyone for all the great information! It's my first posting to
this group and this is more than I ever hoped for. Lots of food for
though...
-Paul
On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 8:08:52 PM UTC-5, Lefebeaver wrote:
>
> I bought myself an Atlantis frame last fall and am building it up
On 2/23/19 12:41 AM, dougP wrote:
On the hub question, 8/9/10 speed cassettes all fit the same hubs.
With the amount of 9 & 10 speed stuff around, those hubs will be
useful for a long time.
As to the number of cogs, based on your experience with 10 speed you
may want to stick to 8 or 9.
All this yes.
Nine speed is where I've been for a long time, and just jumped to 11sp on
some bikes. Larger 11sp cassettes fit on 9sp (8/9/10) hubs, because the
biggest cog is dished. You'll be fine for a long time. 10sp doesn't offer
me anything, but 11sp cassettes are actually nice. I like
On the hub question, 8/9/10 speed cassettes all fit the same hubs. With
the amount of 9 & 10 speed stuff around, those hubs will be useful for a
long time.
As to the number of cogs, based on your experience with 10 speed you may
want to stick to 8 or 9. 6/7/8 all take the same chain, and 9
Thank you for your replies suggesting sources for the paint. I intend to
get right on it. Limper, Spokane WA
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 11:51 AM Tom Horton wrote:
> I have recently bought model master blue/green hobby paint with the number
> 2135 on it at my local craft store. I can't say it's
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