On Friday, June 15, 2012 12:28:10 AM UTC-4, William wrote:
I did the tubeless part of the conversion tonight.
Cool! What kind of sealant and how much did you end up using?
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I used Stans. One full scoop seems to have done it. Holding air nicely
the next day
On Friday, June 15, 2012 8:55:45 AM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:
On Friday, June 15, 2012 12:28:10 AM UTC-4, William wrote:
I did the tubeless part of the conversion tonight.
Cool! What kind of sealant
On Friday, June 15, 2012 12:13:00 PM UTC-4, William wrote:
I used Stans. One full scoop seems to have done it. Holding air nicely
the next day
Great - sounds like a no hassle tire/rim combination. did they go up with
a floor pump or did you have to use compressed air? Please post your
OK Patrick, you asked for it. Long story but here goes.
Here's how the process to tubeless went. I was doing a 650B conversion
anyway. My frame was/is 126mm in the back and I had hubs, so I just needed
rims. I wanted to try something other than Synergies to see if I could get
better tire
GREAT to hear it went on so easily. I can't get tubeless w/out a
compressor, so applaud your success with a floor pump!
Try the syringe that Stan sells, it's lets you put in the sealant after
you've seated the bead. Not the end all/be all, but keeps things cleaner
IMHO.
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at
On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:48 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
GREAT to hear it went on so easily. I can't get tubeless w/out a
compressor, so applaud your success with a floor pump!
Try the syringe that Stan sells, it's lets you put in the sealant after
you've seated the bead. Not
Well I've only ridden 20 miles or so on them. They for sure built up very
well. I expect a wheelset to last me 10 years at least, so ask me in 8 and
I'll let you know. :-)
On Friday, June 15, 2012 3:56:33 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:
What do you think of the A23's? I have 700c Dyads on my
I did the tubeless part of the conversion tonight. It was a little bit
intimidating, having never done a tubeless conversion before. It was
slightly more intimidating since I could find no testimony whether Soma
B-Lines have ever been used tubeless, but it seems to have worked out. The
Two of the take-off parts from this Miyata are now up on ebay, if anyone is
interested. 100% of the bid price goes back to Harding Elementary School
PTA.
Thanks -- very instructive. Short answers, then, No and No.
I'll read the ghetto methods with more care later, but for now, with
the BAs so loose on the rim, fergit it.
I had been under the impression that there were kits that you could
apply to just about any tire/rim combination, whence my
On May 22, 7:57 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
How low can you go with tubeless in 2 tires? I regularly go down to
12 with my Big Apples -- have gone lower inadvertently -- with no
pinches or creep.
i think it depends on the tire and where/how you ride. I have a buddy
who's
You certainly can't call even the Liteskin version of the Big Apples
lightweight! Unfortunately, I am securely tied to 29, disk brakes
and to these 44mm wide rims on my one off road bike. Oh well, best to
just ride and not worry about improving things. Tho' a fat wheelset
that would shrug off
On May 23, 12:38 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd also be curious to see how road tubeless improve on the speed and
feel of racing tires, but as someone pointed out, these are for now
all 700c.
what kind of racing tires? i have a friend who rides a Hutchinson
road tubeless
To me, road tubeless has most of the disadvantages of both clinchers and
tubulars, without enough benefits. Clinchers with tubes are easy to
service, easily available at many price points, and come in a wide range of
widths and casings. Tubulars aren't cheap and take some time and care to
All this tubeless talk reminds me, i have a set of 700c tubeless wheels
that came off an old Stowe of mine. I cant see ever using them, anyone want
them for say $30 bucks? They defintely need new tires and glue, shimano 600
hubs with small block cluster. Why so cheap you ask? Because they were
You mean tubular not tubeless, Peter.
- David G
On May 23, 2012 7:25 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
All this tubeless talk reminds me, i have a set of 700c tubeless wheels
that came off an old Stowe of mine. I cant see ever using them, anyone want
them for say $30 bucks?
Ah, I really don't know anything about them so I will take your word on
it.
On May 23, 2012 9:19 PM, David Yu Greenblatt
david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:
You mean tubular not tubeless, Peter.
- David G
On May 23, 2012 7:25 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
All this
On May 21, 5:42 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for that tip. I'll probably do the wheelbuild and the tire
installation at the bike shop where I used to work. That'll give me access
to a burly compressor.
a compressor definitely helps, but I've had good luck with a track
pump
The thing that I'm not clear on is what actually is happening to the
sealant goo? Is it hardening into a rubber coating? Is the entire inside
of the tire and rimstrip coated? So when you remove the tire when it's
worn out, you are destroying that seal by ripping it apart. What about the
Stupid (or at least uninformed) question: What's the advantage of tubeless?
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I've had numerous people tell me that once you try tubeless you never go
back. The highlights according to them have been ride quality, flat
resistance and light weight. I think the theory is your tires are much
more supple because there's less material holding the air in. I don't
quite get
If this is a stupid question, count me in. I'd like to know more,
mostly 'cuz uv goatheads. Can someone with experience itemize the
Pro's and Con's?
In particular: I used Slime in regular tubes and found it horrible: it
would seal most, but not all, goathead punctures; but if a bigger
sharpie got
I am just getting back into tubeless after a long hiatus, and I am no
expert. In the past month I got a new 29er MTB with tubeless wheels (the
rims on my old MTB were not tubeless compatible) and I also mounted Hetres
on a new wheelset that has Stan's rims using Stan's tape and Stan's
sealant. My
On May 22, 6:23 pm, David Yu Greenblatt
david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:
I am interested in tubeless Pari-Motos since in theory that would maintain
the lightweight and supple qualities of the tire while improving flat
resistance significantly. However I don't think I can safety try using
On May 22, 4:47 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
The highlights according to them have been ride quality, flat
resistance and light weight.
and traction - with tubeless, you can run very low pressures without
the same risk of pinch flats, which gives superior traction on loose,
uneven
How low can you go with tubeless in 2 tires? I regularly go down to
12 with my Big Apples -- have gone lower inadvertently -- with no
pinches or creep.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote:
On May 22, 4:47 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
The highlights
On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:57:28 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
How low can you go with tubeless in 2 tires? I regularly go down to
12 with my Big Apples -- have gone lower inadvertently -- with no
pinches or creep.
I go 10 to 15 psi lower with tubeless than tubed, so that should take you
negative 3 psi would be EPIC cushy!
On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:16:56 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:
On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:57:28 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
How low can you go with tubeless in 2 tires? I regularly go down to
12 with my Big Apples -- have gone lower inadvertently -- with no
Sounds exciting. I have an 84 Trek 620 that I have considered for
conversion, but have never gotten up the courage or $$. For now, I've
taken off the fenders, which gives me good clearance for JBs. Keep us
posted on how this goes.
Michael
On Monday, May 21, 2012 1:55:57 PM UTC-4, William
For me the big deal is BB height before and after. Plan it out and try to
keep it at or above 260mm. This bike measured 265 with 700x20 tires. If I
went to 650x32, it would drop me 7mm lower into the danger zone. 650x38
drops me 1mm (plus any tire sag), so it should be perfecto.
On
Interestingly enough for me the idea was to get lower than that -
closer to the 250mm of the Mariposa. I didn't quite make it but
between the drop I did achieve and the reduced trail the handle of my
(now departed) Heron Road was wonderfully light compared to the same
bike with 700x28's.
-Ken
You're going to commute on Pari-Motos?
Kevin
Chicago, IL
On Monday, May 21, 2012 12:55:57 PM UTC-5, William wrote:
I'm in the midst of a 650B conversion that I'm pretty excited about. I've
acquired a 1984 Miyata 912, and it's getting resurrected. The major
enhancement in my eyes is that
For now it'll be Soma B-Lines.
On Monday, May 21, 2012 12:56:19 PM UTC-7, Kevin Mulcahy wrote:
You're going to commute on Pari-Motos?
Kevin
Chicago, IL
On Monday, May 21, 2012 12:55:57 PM UTC-5, William wrote:
I'm in the midst of a 650B conversion that I'm pretty excited about.
On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 13:54 -0700, William wrote:
For now it'll be Soma B-Lines.
but depending on the roads you ride and how flush you feel, it wouldn't
be totally crazy to commute on Pari Motos. I rode them last year on
numerous rides including gravel roads, got 1600 miles or thereabouts
The Pari Motos in the pictures on my flickr are on the wheels of my A Homer
Hilsen at the moment. I pulled a wheel to use as a clearance gauge for the
stays. The Hetres in the pictures are on the wheels of my Bombadil. The
Soma B-Lines are the tires I intend to use tubeless on this bike.
I agree. One *should *be able to commute on Pari Motos, but my Pari Moto
experience has been nothing short of spooky. It's not uncommon for me to
go years between flats on the road, but on Pari Motos, it's almost every
ride. I don't ride a whole lot, probably in the neighborhood of 5000
On Monday, May 21, 2012 2:14:35 PM UTC-7, William wrote:
Some say that tubeless is an excellent way to reduce the frequency of
punctures, and I'm also eager to see that for myself.
Tubeless are great. I haven't had a flat in four years with tubeless on my
mountain bike. Two things about
Thanks for that tip. I'll probably do the wheelbuild and the tire
installation at the bike shop where I used to work. That'll give me access
to a burly compressor.
On Monday, May 21, 2012 2:37:54 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:
On Monday, May 21, 2012 2:14:35 PM UTC-7, William wrote:
Some say
Or, a neighbor like Jim ;-)
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=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA
On 5/21/12, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, May 21, 2012 2:14:35 PM UTC-7, William wrote:
Some say that tubeless is an excellent way to reduce the frequency of
On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 14:25 -0700, William wrote:
I agree. One should be able to commute on Pari Motos, but my Pari
Moto experience has been nothing short of spooky. It's not uncommon
for me to go years between flats on the road, but on Pari Motos, it's
almost every ride. I don't ride a
Yeah, good idea, but no. It's always something different that I'll find in
there. Thorn this time, wire next time, glass the time after that. Each
time I'd put the tires on, use them for short rides for a few weeks, get my
confidence back up, and then at mile 85 of a 200k there I'll be with
On May 21, 2:56 pm, Kevin Mulcahy kpmulc...@gmail.com wrote:
You're going to commute on Pari-Motos?
I've been regularly commuting on Pari Motos for almost two years now,
with two flats total. 9-10 miles each way, suburban streets, paved
bike path, and city streets. Plus a 600k solo involving a
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