[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal me

2018-03-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
Bill went up a hill ... very fast ... and had a prepubescent whisky to 
celebrate ...
I raise me wee dram and ... Eins! Zwei! Drei! Zuffa! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal me

2018-03-12 Thread Bill Lindsay
Deaky P recommended that I dwell on other numbers. One of the other numbers 
that I have been dwelling on are Strava numbers. I’ve been expecting to improve 
personal bests on local benchmark climbs. One of the is the BHS Time Trial. A 
steep and loose trail climb of 1.1 miles that is used by most of the local 
racers to gauge fitness. I had set the goal for myself to become only the 
second rider on Strava in the 45-54 age group to do this climb in under ten 
minutes (joining our own head coach at El Cerrito High). I did the ride 
yesterday and put down a 9:46. I treated myself with a glass of beer  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal me

2018-03-11 Thread Andy L
Thank you, Patrick-  that reminds me of playing on the floor with my kids-  
it always felt good, and I haven't spent  much time on the floor since, I 
think I'll start again-
Andy

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 12:05:15 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Andy asked about floor living. No chairs. Bed is a platform bed with a 
> thin wool pad. The idea came out of what I learned going barefoot almost a 
> decade ago. Because of my bludgeoned brain I have constant neurological 
> vertigo (basically I feel like I’m on two planets simultaniously, each with 
> constantly changing gravity strength and direction, plus whatever my own 
> motion is). What barefooting taught me is my feet were weak because of 
> shoes, rather than I need more supportive, cushioned, raised heel shoes 
> because my feet are weak. My body learned to know, though the input from my 
> bare feet, where I was in space. And I began moving better, smoother, no 
> more knee or back issues (which stemmed from cushioned, raised heel shoes, 
> I now know). 
>
> Anyway, I applied the same concept to furniture, realizing that the best 
> nights sleep I was getting was durring bikepacking. It took months (like 
> shifting to barefoot) for mymuscles and body to shift and strengthen and 
> learn how to move better, (and a year or so for full transition), but now 
> the only chair I sit in is the car seat and I sit corss-legged in that. Our 
> whole family shifted to floor living, and what we discovered is we feel 
> constantly better, with strong cores, lithe muscles, far fewer aches and 
> pains. 
>
> Turns out science is catching up with this idea, though the solutions they 
> come up with miss returning to the simplest solution. All those studies 
> that show sitting in an office chair is bad for heart health, etc? Floor 
> living. Grin. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal me

2018-03-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Andy asked about floor living. No chairs. Bed is a platform bed with a thin 
wool pad. The idea came out of what I learned going barefoot almost a decade 
ago. Because of my bludgeoned brain I have constant neurological vertigo 
(basically I feel like I’m on two planets simultaniously, each with constantly 
changing gravity strength and direction, plus whatever my own motion is). What 
barefooting taught me is my feet were weak because of shoes, rather than I need 
more supportive, cushioned, raised heel shoes because my feet are weak. My body 
learned to know, though the input from my bare feet, where I was in space. And 
I began moving better, smoother, no more knee or back issues (which stemmed 
from cushioned, raised heel shoes, I now know).

Anyway, I applied the same concept to furniture, realizing that the best nights 
sleep I was getting was durring bikepacking. It took months (like shifting to 
barefoot) for mymuscles and body to shift and strengthen and learn how to move 
better, (and a year or so for full transition), but now the only chair I sit in 
is the car seat and I sit corss-legged in that. Our whole family shifted to 
floor living, and what we discovered is we feel constantly better, with strong 
cores, lithe muscles, far fewer aches and pains.

Turns out science is catching up with this idea, though the solutions they come 
up with miss returning to the simplest solution. All those studies that show 
sitting in an office chair is bad for heart health, etc? Floor living. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal me

2018-03-09 Thread Dave Grossman
Great thread all!

Congrats to all of you that have found success.  I am found the same 
success a couple of years ago with this method as well.  I was gaining 
weight and not feeling my best with a bunch of small kids to take care of. 
 In addition, I have an auto immune gut issue that was flaring on and off 
for almost 16 years.  

I decided to do a modified Paleo diet eliminating gluten, grains, and 
refined sugars.  It has done wonders for my life.  I am back to my old 
college hockey playing weight, have tons of energy, and feel great.  My gut 
has been in good condition throughout as well.  I cheat and have some bread 
once a week (a slice of homemade stuff) and that is about it.  When I 
travel and get off track I really feel it.  

It is amazing how much your body can tolerate, abuse wise, through diet. 
 All of your stories about high weight, A1C, etc really speak on that.  We 
are all so used to feeling terrible from our modern diets that we don't 
even know what healthy feels like anymore.  Grant's book is great and while 
I have a different variation of it, it speaks much truth.  I do have a 
sweet tooth and still eat sweets but they are made with maple syrup, honey, 
almond flour, etc.  I still want to enjoy that aspect of life, after all!

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal me

2018-03-09 Thread Andy L
Hi Deacon,
I’m intrigued by your phrase “floor living.”  Would you mind explaining it?
Thanks,
Andy

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal me

2018-03-07 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ahhh. Excellent point, Bill. I happily bow to the reality that you need 
numbers. May I rephrase, please? Grin.

The waist and weight numbers may not be the best numbers to focus on. Consider 
being open to other numbers that may be more pertinant (which may only reveal 
themselves after, and because, of focusing on waist and weight goals. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal me

2018-03-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
Deacon recommended not dwelling on the numbers.

Brains are each wired differently.  The notion of having a goal and NOT 
dwelling on the numbers, for me sounds like trying to build a bicycle 
without using circles.  Sardonic grin

I can give up beer, but I NEED MY NUMBERS!!

Bill

On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 7:21:28 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Fantastic, Bill. I’d recommend not focusing so much on weight or waist 
> size but on feel (energy, capacity, endurance, stability, joy, delight...). 
> It’s fascinating to me how much floor living keeps the core solid and 
> strong and thus thicker. As I’ve mentioned before, I am ketogenic (via the 
> Perfect Health Diet), with 80-90% of calories from fat. I don’t carry food 
> on all day rides, and though I carry food on bikepacking trips I often 
> don’t eat it. I intermitant fast 16-18 hours daily. I’ve been stable at 200 
> pounds on this basic approach for quite a few years now. But then I eat by 
> feel just as I ride by feel. Grin. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal me

2018-03-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fantastic, Bill. I’d recommend not focusing so much on weight or waist size but 
on feel (energy, capacity, endurance, stability, joy, delight...). It’s 
fascinating to me how much floor living keeps the core solid and strong and 
thus thicker. As I’ve mentioned before, I am ketogenic (via the Perfect Health 
Diet), with 80-90% of calories from fat. I don’t carry food on all day rides, 
and though I carry food on bikepacking trips I often don’t eat it. I 
intermitant fast 16-18 hours daily. I’ve been stable at 200 pounds on this 
basic approach for quite a few years now. But then I eat by feel just as I ride 
by feel. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal me

2018-03-06 Thread Dave
Nice write up, and good work! I know I feel better with a diet aligned with the 
eb side of ebdj, but haven’t been able to click with a hiit routine. I will say 
that I find David Ludwig’s book to be a sure fire way to curb the sugar 
cravings, just not my style of food.  They just released a cookbook recently 
that may be worth looking at. 

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