[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-19 Thread Les Lammers
+1 *If you are short armed/trunked, and ride drops, you may want to size down one size if the frame sizes are close. If you will be upright riding, then just stick with RBW sizing methods. *Excellent advice. On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 6:43:30 PM UTC-4, lum gim fong wrote: > I've had 4

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-16 Thread Garth
If you are referring to the Origin 8 double looking as it does, hey, it's a crank and it works well ! I too used to think a crank ought to look a certain way, be cold forged, etc, but then I realized were opinions from where I know not, while I just want stuff that works well and forget about

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-16 Thread Jay Connolly
I have a couple of 46/30 cranks--one Velo Orange, one White Industries. More than enough top end and even at the bottom for all but loaded touring. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-15 Thread Daniel D.
If I end up doing the build instead of letting riv handle it, considering the IRD Defiant cranks http://www.interlocracing.com/crank-arms-chainrings/defiant-wide-compact-road-crank-set -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-15 Thread Garth
Firstly, not all Sugino cranks are labeled as 9/8/7 speed, the Mighty Tour 110 double and or triple is called a 10 speed. 2. The only difference it seemsFrom here, reply #13 and 15, * "10 speed cranks offset the rings apart 7mm vs. 6mm for 9 speed cranks. (According to a machinist in

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-15 Thread lum gim fong
I use silver barend shifters with xd2 crankset and shimano HG50 7-speed cassette with 4.5 mm spacer and SRAM 8-speed chain on both my rivbikes. This is fantastic for friction shifting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/15/2017 02:40 PM, Daniel D. wrote: Thanks for the thoughts everyone. The worry's died down a bit. Blue vs. gray is not quite as settled :p. Another thing was reading that the silver and sugino cranks are not 10-speed friendly. There is a Sugino triple that is, the Alpina 2.

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-15 Thread Daniel D.
Thanks for the thoughts everyone. The worry's died down a bit. Blue vs. gray is not quite as settled :p. Another thing was reading that the silver and sugino cranks are not 10-speed friendly. I like my current setup with SRAM bar ends, friction in the front and 10-speed indexing in the

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-14 Thread lum gim fong
I've had 4 Rivendells, sight-unseen, and they all rode great. 55 Bleriot (used) 53 Bleriot (new in box from Peter J. White Cycles) 52 Blue Sam (new from RBW) 54 Rambouillet. (used, traded my Blue Sam for it). Rambouillet (Noodle drop setup) is my favorite as it is the easiest to pedal down the

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-13 Thread blakcloud
I bought a Betty Foy for my wife because I liked the look. I was already riding Rivendell "inspired" bikes at the time and was content. After I built hers up, I decided that I would like to try one so I bought a Sam Hilborne. I made my decision by reading everything on the Riv website and

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
One more thought ... If I'd been on this group at the time, I'd have gone round a few bends second guessing my choices and wondering if I should trust the way Grant sized me up. Grant and Co. nailed it. Once you have your bike, this group is brilliant at helping dial in bits and bobs. We're

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-13 Thread REC
I am lucky enough to have two riv dealers within a 3 hour drive, although I've only been to and purchased from one. I'd only heard of riv for a few months before I went on a test ride of atlantis and cheviot. I might have ridden a sam also. I spoke a few times with Riv corp about which

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-12 Thread Kellie
Congrats Daniel or your order! You are going *to love it!* On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 2:08:54 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote: > > I hopped right on the Roadini. Since it's a pre-order with a wait, a > tinge of worry has creeped in. I've never bought a bike before taking a > spin on it let

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-11 Thread Jon BALER
I have bought all my recent bikes (15?) without a test ride. The LBS typically don't carry the XL sizes, and most models that I seek are sold as a frame only. I think part selection is more critical, and I can always change those. I have a pretty good idea what I want, pick relatively simple

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-11 Thread 'peech1...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch
Experimental purchases, then discarding some of those purchases is relatively more economical and best done with bicycles rather than cars or motorcycles. tim On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 10:52:07 PM UTC-5, Bill M. wrote: > > All I can say is, you do your diligence, take your best educated

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-10 Thread Bill M.
All I can say is, you do your diligence, take your best educated shot at a bike that will work, and accept that if it doesn't work out you will either have to live with it or sell it along and take some financial loss. I think of it as the fee for the education I've gotten by riding the bike -

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-10 Thread 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch
Of the 14 bikes I currently own, I was able to ride only 2 before buying them. One is a Surly Cross Check that I bought new from a LBS in about 2007, and while it's useful as my commuter-bike, it's my least favorite. The other is a 60cm Hillborne, which I test rode at an Ohio Rivendell

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/10/2017 06:51 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: Steve correctly pointed out a qualifier "Of course, there could also be an issue with the stoutness of tubing required for a loaded touring bike vs an unloaded roadie, so tell us about the frame tubing of the touring bike as well. And by all means,

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-10 Thread Bill Lindsay
Steve correctly pointed out a qualifier "Of course, there could also be an issue with the stoutness of tubing required for a loaded touring bike vs an unloaded roadie, so tell us about the frame tubing of the touring bike as well. And by all means, describe. " My comment was deliberate.

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-10 Thread Patrick Moore
A wise woman! On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Jay Connolly wrote: > ... When my wife found me tearing furiously at the packaging of a new part > one day, she paused in the doorway for a moment and said, "This is instead > of a younger woman, right?" And I said,

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-10 Thread Jay Connolly
At my size (6'5", 260) and location (on an Island with a total population of not much more than 500k) it's hard to find bikes to test ride. My first 700c bike (a 60cm Trek 520) was too small, though the salesman/store owner insisted that it would be a good fit. In time, I bought a 62cm Surly

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-10 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
https://youtu.be/aj5DccgBYeM?t=25s On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 5:36:51 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote: > > >Well, you'll never get it wrong and you'll never get it right. > > Every bike has a "sweet spot" and it is always revealed if you forget > about everything you thought you knew, the

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-10 Thread dougP
Daniel: When I bought my Atlantis in 2003, I had never seen a Rivendell, let alone ridden one. However, the bike got an excellent review from John Schubert in Adventure Cycling's magazine. The jist of the article was that if you wanted a well thought, perfectly serviceable touring bike that

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-10 Thread Garth
Well, you'll never get it wrong and you'll never get it right. Every bike has a "sweet spot" and it is always revealed if you forget about everything you thought you knew, the "supposed to be's and shoulda woulda coulda" and just ride it. Doesn't mean you'll ride it beyond that

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/10/2017 05:24 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: I think it's the same as ordering a custom. Trust the supplier + comprehend the numbers. If you don't or can't comprehend the numbers, then it's a leap of faith. Move it on if you hate it and try to learn something from it that you can use next

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-10 Thread Bill Lindsay
I think it's the same as ordering a custom. Trust the supplier + comprehend the numbers. If you don't or can't comprehend the numbers, then it's a leap of faith. Move it on if you hate it and try to learn something from it that you can use next time. Do you have the geometry chart for

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

2017-08-10 Thread Deacon Patrick
Those questions, well my version of them, drove me round the bend. The good news was I hadn't far to go. Grin. At which point I realized there was no way to answer those questions except after I rode the bike. I attempted, and largely failed, to enter into a peace, accepting that I couldn't do